She'd have been like millions of working class Mum's up and down the country. Dedicated totally to their families. God bless our Mum's. Wed be lost without them.
SavedByTheBellend hahaha so true mate. My mind boggles the way people glamourise and kind of honour people like this. They’re incredibly interesting characters and a part of British history. But they were completely evil, sadistic, twisted, perverted gangsters. They didn’t clean up the streets they just used and abused anybody they could.
If they got out. The public would likly run. Run the hell away after seeing a hand appear out of the cemetery grave. Wringgling those fingers as if they are full of life, yet dead. Then that ghostlyfingered limb starts digging a deeper hole till eventually a whole mound breaks open and a headed torso sits up spitting outthe sil and shaking it from what bits the maggots didn't eat. I can not see the Public sticking around another second saying 'Allo Ronnie' How you been doing,? Were you up stairs or downstairs? Then for real if the real talking really began and Ronnie opened his mouth muttering 'I did mine, It's time for you to do yours'. Just as most Public wouldn't care to sit in the same room with Frankenstein they would leave the entire double decker bus empty if the living dead walking corpse of Ronnald Kray got on asking for a single to Valance Road.
"They never harmed the public". Try saying that to any one of the business owners, shop keepers and publicans that were forced to put up with their nonsense. Nothing but thieving murderers and I will never understand the hero worship that still goes on about this family even today. The world is a better place without them.
@@jellyfish9802 technically the murders racketeering and thievery that they perpetrated were not seen as good by any of the people whose lives they affected. If you think otherwise you're deluded. Nobody handed their hard earned money over to the kray firm out of respect. None of the families of the people they murdered would agree that what they did was a good thing. The police corruption that they engendered was not good for the police not the public. Getting your own way through others fear of you is not a good way to live and NOBODY wants to live in fear. The world becomes a slightly better place every time a gangster dies.
@@Matelot123 @@Matelot123 I'm not justifying murder however if you had to choose who ran your city I promise you would pick the krays 100 percent of the time over the cartel and you know why as long as you dont fuck with the krays there not gonna beat your ass for nothing that's how they do business there properly affiliated I dont even have to say anymore the video shows 100s of people there so
Sufc Davie Your comment just proves your ignorance. A "Nonce" is an evil Paedophile, which is an adult who is sexually attracted to children. The Krays had sex with ADULTS!
Proper gangsters. They were a couple of kiddie fiddlers and were locked up forever because they knew too much about fellow kiddie fiddlers in the establishment. Anyone that worships these two are worshipping paedophiles. Fucking bacons. They were nothing.
They were not that short 6 foot. The prison on government orders had them escorted by the tallest prison officers in the prison system, exactly to get the reaction you did…
"They weren't allowed to go to the grave side ... " In the earlier biopic, starring Gary and Martin Kemp, the closing scene of the film has both twins at the graveside.
@@apathyintheuk265 The film also has Reg killing Jack The Hat and Ron killing George Cornell on the same night, when in reality those murders occurred 3 years apart. Major use of artistic license for dramatic effect.
Two people whose mother feasted on the destruction and violence of their evil lifestyle. She could see no evil in them. She doted even on their "business," which all London knew was extortion and murder. everyone attending this funeral were gullible and possessed a twisted sense of loyalty.
They actually got treated very well for being such violent criminals. If Julian Assange (a convicted criminal with no incidents involving violence) loses a parent, will he be let out for the funeral? Britain is a very weird place these days.
I think because they were working class who made something of themselves albeit through criminal activities. Depending on who you ask some say the Kray's never hurt innocents only people involved the criminal underworld and others call them thugs. But back when they around it was different to today. The working class were considered ill mannered uneducated scum. The Kray's pulled themselves out of being poor working class and ran a successful night club and attracted celebrities to them like magnets plus they basically ran the East end so I get why people are fascinated by them.
@michael leitch Your living in fantasy world, the myth of the Krays is so far from the truth you wouldn't believe, I suggest you do a bit of research concerning those 'loveable' crooks and it may change your opinion.
@@Muirton66 He’s entitled to his opinion just like you are and lots of people find the krays fascinating . If you don’t like them then fine but many people do like them . I Adore Ron and I’m Not interested in your negative views !!
@@Muirton66 yes but you’re making out that all the films books etc about them are all rubbish and you have “ discovered the truth “ about them . You didn’t know them or any of their family friends or associates . So you can’t really say it’s all a fantasy or myth !!
If only they could come back and sort out the gangs that are around today. Krays and Richardsons would sort out north and south of the river.These gangs of today are little boys compared to them. I do not necessarily agree with some of the things that the Krays and Richardsons did but we would not have these boy gangs about now and knife crime would be hardly heard of.
That's racist. Are you saying that the white gangsters are better at murdering people than the black gangsters? That's a very offensive statement. They're trying their hardest. No need to be mean and ting.
Pablo Escobar you know your stuff. The dundon-McCarthy’s weren’t smart enough though but bad and stupid in their own way. The Adams and smiths and nashes and arifs and brindles and Riley’s all still have a hold over London
It is widely reported that unlike traditional protection rackets, where its "You pay or we hurt you" people would actually ask to be under the protection of the Krays. Then they got actual protection.
@@mariolisa2832 I don't need to speak for every business but the police did and so did the court. The Kray firm was broken up and jailed because of their violent and murderous activities which included protection rackets. Everybody knew what they were doing. I used to know someone who collected money from business owners on behalf of the Kray firm and he was quite clear nobody was asking for protection. The only people they needed protection from WAS the Krays. Don't take it from me though. The Krays wrote books while they were in prison in which they ADMITTED to running protection rackets. Geoffrey Pearson was allowed access to their lives BY the Kray twins as those two vain idiots wanted their story told. His book also details their activities in depth. They were all given lengthy jail sentences for activities which included running protection rackets. These are facts which all the Kray fanboys in here refuse to see. You are welcome to believe that the Krays were benevolent local businessmen. Just don't try to convince me. I'm from Stepney and EVERYBODY knew of the Krays and what they did. Only uninformed fools believe they were misunderstood nice guys.
That’s coz some of the people in power including judges priests as we all know are sex predators so they don’t get harsh sentences. Fcuked up judicious system
@@timwelford6396 you're so bleeding right there. this country is going down the dogs and bleeding fast. but you wait and see when the trash start living next door to the rich Fockers that's when the system will change you Mark my words. stay safe governor
@@thewizard636 That's got nothing to do with it pal! Any fool can see the officers are very tall, go and watch the full Documentry where the police even admit to doing it to undermine the Krays reputation.
jordan kennedy yes they always got their suits from Savile Row in London. Even in Broadmoor, Rons tailor always visited him and made his immaculate suits for him, and he always wore silk shirts ties and crocodile shoes . He was the most elegant man and gorgeous with it . Just my opinion !! 🥰
@@tina5203 really well thank you for teachimg me somethimg new i seriously did not know that yeah they always dressed the best of the best yeah he was a handsome man
They kept all of the villainy under control. No one stepped out of line. They hated grasses, sex offenders, people who committed crimes to do with women and children. They couldn't stand petty housebreakers. The twins would never have stood for muggings and the sort of street crime that's going haywire today. In those days the East End was a better and safer place for the general public to live in, and I feel a bit proud of that. The twins did a job the police couldn't do, and there are a lot of coppers who would admit it. The twins should have been given a medal. - Tony Lambrianou.
Oh for goodness sake, they committed murder, armed robberies, arson and sexual offences.Stop glorifying a couple of useless violent arseholes who believed they were above the law. They weren’t. Certainly they hated being caught out and imprisoned, exactly where they belonged in my opinion. Don’t try to make it sound grand. It’s pure thuggery.
Glad the Richardsons were mentioned, they ruled South London the way the Krays ruled North of the river. They were often at the Savoy Ballroom in Catford. They also used Mr Smith's Club in Rushey Green. The Krays and Richardsons did not get on to say the least. However there was a difference, the Krays wanted to be famous, the Richardsons rich. The Krays became infamous, the richardsons did not get rich and like the Krays spent some considerable time in jail.
@@cheistiandunn7988 They did not even rule Bethnal Green. Bethnal Green had an elected council with Parliamentary representation. They endevoured to rule by terrorism their rival Underworld gangsters. But clearly as they were trying to bring Mafioso crimesters in and enter mass distribution of dangerous illgal criminal drugs, then they were clearly not trying to keep their ideas of rule to just their supposed home turf. Had they kept to their home turf the CIA Secret Service Agents would not have infiltrated their gang. By 1966 (Starting 1st April 1966) when they shot Cornel. The Blind Beggar Pub was in Tower Hamlets and the Crazy Krays did not rule Tower Hamlets.
Don't believe everything you hear. People today get a lot less for a lot worse. My Grandad lived in the next street. The only people the Kray's hurt were their own kind. There were no old ladies getting mugged or worse and no kids being messed with, they wouldn't dare. Grandad told me it was the safest place to be.
I'd have been tempted to give that reporter a smack in the mouth for that remark. Yes, the Krays were violent criminals no-one is disputing that. However, Charlie was right, compared to the criminal element of today, his brothers kept and dealt with things very much 'in-house' and didn't involve the public. Ronnie died whilst still incarcerated in Broadmoor and the authorities only released Reggie when they knew he was dying of cancer, it was nothing more than a token gesture which reflected very badly on them, not Reggie. The twins were made an 'example' of by the judicial system and the only criminals who have suffered a similar length of imprisonment since are serial killers (who have murdered totally innocent people). The Krays victims, in many ways, 'had it coming' so to speak. That for me, is the difference (and a sizeable one at that) between the Krays and the likes of Denis Nielsen, The Yorkshire Ripper, The Moors Murderers etc...
'...the only criminals who have suffered a similar length of imprisonment since are serial killers' Charlie Bronson would disagree, and he's never killed a single soul.
@@KumaBean Of course, I wasn't looking for people to split hairs with me. You are right about Bronson, but he is an extraordinary case in that the authorities see him as (and he has proven this time and time again) extremely violent. If you read Bronson's wikipedia page you will see what I mean, a very chequered history in both prison and 3 psychiatric hospitals. He is too dangerous to be released back into society, hence why his sentence was changed to life imprisonment from an original 7 year stretch for armed robbery.
Absolute bollocks. The krays threatened and harmed innocent traders who wouldn’t pay them protection money. Ordinary people trying to make a living. I’m glad the arseholes rotted in prison. They shouldn’t have been let out for the funeral either.
Yeah they did love and respect their mother But think people are forgetting about the other people they hurt.They didn't think about their victims families
If Ronald and Reginald we’re alive today and tried to do what they did in 2021, they’d be caught before they could get started. you’re deluded if you think that these two would ‘sort out’ today’s London.
@@Dozzy574 the young guys are unorganised little skinny knife wielding pussies. the Kray gang would have wiped their whole family out if they dared stepping out of line, these wannabe gangsters today would shit their pants going up against a real gang
@@leonhorder8979 Do you mean "The Profession Of Violence" by John Pearson who sadly recently passed away? It is a good book. Shows the Kray family to be the absolute drain on society that families like this always are and the twins as the evil thieving murderous bullies that they were.
@@MadBoy8734 They never made a bean!? 😂 How many clubs did they own!? How many other Companies or businesses did they have under their protection racket!? How much was their flats worth!? How many people did they employ!? Yeah, So with all that they was broke were they!? 😂 Don't talk rubbish! Yes they WERE WORSE off when they got arrested as all their assets were confiscated by the police! But far from not having a bean, ya numpty.
Hahahaha true that, I used to drink in a boozer in Mottingham and all the old gezzers in there apparently knew the Krays and hung out with them…..Yeaa whatever mate 😂😂
We need these guys back...They were top of the tree,they kept the innocent safe and kept the gangs under control,If we had them today crime would be kept under there control,and keep ordinary people safe! We need these boys back!
"Thames News" - i don't remember this being reported (in Birmingham) at the time - maybe I lived a sheltered life or it wasn't national news at the time!
So blackmailing extortion violence on innocent shop owners makes you a hero and a legend in London??? strange very very strange and sick!!! come on the Krays were no boyscouts??!! but that said 30 years in prison was also ridiculous to be honest!!
@@timchamberlin9280 Unbelievable. It's the same with your/you're. This is basic elemental English that a reasonably intelligent child should grasp with ease. I think it's linked in with a dysgenic effect of rampant welfare in countries such as the UK encouraging the least intelligent to breed, whereas the smart people have one kid or none.
What is so utterly farcical about some of the comments here is where those born into privileges criticise the Krays for being unethical, while failing to see how the Middle and Upper Classes are guilty of WORSE, they inflict and perpetuate poverty by either paying the poor s pittance of a wage, or are Shareholders who also deny the poor of a GENUINE Living Wage, because Conglomerates are obliged to pay Shareholders dividends, if Shareholders were exterminated, profits could then be used to pay GENUINE Living Wage to the poor
I haven’t read something as stupid as this in a long while… What, do you think Elon musk’s 200 billion actually means something? It’s mostly none material things that he owns. You can’t magically turn money into food and homes. If that amount of money was released in the public it would do lot more harm then good! It’s just inflation. The public wouldn’t get any richer, their money would become more worthless and their wages even worse. Those shares are nothing but imaginary ideas and possible profit. Those shares can’t feed the homeless and can’t build houses for them. Those shareholders contribute 100s of times more to society then the so call poor people. Their contribution is keeping your economy alive, so you can eat and drink sitting on a comfy ass couch, jerking off. Those billionaire contribute much more then you ever will! You have no right to ask them for anything. You are worthless compare to their contributions to your well being and comforts you take for granted. They aren’t guilt of shit! They have the right to care for themselves over the impoverished. And their money won’t turn into homes and food. Exterminated? Profits? You mean now worthless imaginary money, that no longer means anything because you killed the people who gave it meaning AND you collapsed the economy by killing people who keep it going. dooming the whole world to starvation and civil war over scraps of food? Are you that stupid and entitled to believe that you are owed ANYTHING by those people? People who feed you and dress you? Your ignorance is blinding
@@riyadougla539 If you were intelligent then you will have noticed that my previous comment is in no way sympathetic to the Krays; in fact I do the opposite, highlight the hypocrisy of the privileged classes.
@Junior Sanchez Killing isn't okay, nobody gave you the right to kill. You're not God, you're just another earth consumer like everyone else. Whatever your cause is, killing is and will never be ok.
Hors4TGS if someone raped and murdered any of my kids, then I don’t give two shits what you say, killing would definitely be ok. I would do it with a smile on my face and go to jail without a second thought.
@@itsaboutthattime4425 Congrats, you fucked up your life too. Your kids would be proud of you rotting in the jail for the rest of your life while of course suffering from their loss and complete lack of freedom, which would probably end in suicide. Be the better my man!
In some cases even murder can be justified, it just depends on who you target: David Cameron, George Osbourne, Ian Duncan Smith, Pritti Patel, Boris Johnson, Tony Blair, Shareholders, and Conglomerates as they deny the poor of a GENUINE Living Wage, so they deserve to be barbarically slaughtered
Must be weird being behind the door for so long then let out for a few hours only to notice how much has changed in almost 20 years. Cars, dress sense, the area.... Its hard to comprehend... Then back to prison until you croak it.
I got a letter once from reg , they would never let out not because of there crimes it was because of there influence on society and the government wanted it back , was absolutely wrong to keep the, locked out for that amount of time absolute disgrace god rest both there souls 🙏🏼
I don't get this inability to understand there/their/they're. It's not rocket science. It's something that any averagely intelligent primary school child should easily grasp. Obviously Mr Lucan isn't exactly an intellectual collossus.
Just looking at Ronnie and Reggie you would not know they where criminals. They look like successful business men, with Ronnie being the one in charge and Reggie as being the on the floor manager. Charlie looked like a school professor or principle
They would hurt the public.. violent types like this hurt anybody. Had this sort in my area. They would even hit or head butted kids if they thought them cheeky
Why should they have been allowed out? One of the points of prison is that normal life is suspended. Their victims didn't get to go to their mums' funerals.
I totally respected the krays, they looked out for the women and children in their patch made the placd safe, they should never have been jailed so long R I P ronnie and reggie
pair of nonces. Both were into young boys and even Reggie had a 21year old cellmate which is the youngest allowed in an adult prison. And ronnie was a proper psychopath. You don't want people like that on the street
They made an example of them two with the excessive sentences, definitely something else going on behind the scenes there with politicians or the lord or whoever,
Nipper Read should be given proper credit. He wasn't corrupt like most of the other coppers back then. Ironically, one of his cases fell right apart because the witness was gay which was actually illegal back then.
Their older brother said he can’t believe the kindness...well...you and your kind would not know what the word means.....EVIL more like a word you would understand....
Shows how popular they were, she lived in a flat for over 15 years, they were nobodies, apparently according to Barbra Windsor who knew Violet, she's sure Violet had no idea what her son's got upto
My right ear enjoyed this news interview
Haha I was just thinking that
I kept turning the volume up convinced it was my problem, then remembered how old this clip is. D'oh!
I thought my cans had broke and I've only had 'em a few weeks!
Did Ronnie cut the other one off?
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She'd have been like millions of working class Mum's up and down the country. Dedicated totally to their families. God bless our Mum's. Wed be lost without them.
And most of those working class mums wouldn't have raised a pair of violent, unhinged psychopaths
Ron took his guard for a walk😂😂😂
In Todays world they don't seem so evil...
SavedByTheBellend hahaha so true mate.
My mind boggles the way people glamourise and kind of honour people like this. They’re incredibly interesting characters and a part of British history. But they were completely evil, sadistic, twisted, perverted gangsters. They didn’t clean up the streets they just used and abused anybody they could.
L Hayes It takes a true idiot to be proud of their ignorance. Judging by your comments, that is exactly what you are!
Evil is Evil mate!!!!
@@dawnrosewallflower508 I'd rather live on there street in the day than in Luton today. Admit it. You would too
@@Ron-Lfc10-163 Shut up you thieving Bastard.
I have always been confused how the State will allow people out for a funeral but not to see the person before they die.
You can fake illness but not death. Maybe that's why...
@@say_no_to_parental_alienation Actually I looked it up. It is because a Church Service is an 'act of god' and visiting a sick relative is not.
You're right. They should not let them out for funerals either.
Because they can somehow influence the living person to do or spread some sht but they can’t do that with the dead people can they?
@@KimbururuThey can speak with everyone else there. Do you think other mourners at deaf-mute or something?
“If they got out tomorrow the public isn’t going to run away” - Real Talking
They dead
If they got out. The public would likly run. Run the hell away after seeing a hand appear out of the cemetery grave. Wringgling those fingers as if they are full of life, yet dead. Then that ghostlyfingered limb starts digging a deeper hole till eventually a whole mound breaks open and a headed torso sits up spitting outthe sil and shaking it from what bits the maggots didn't eat. I can not see the Public sticking around another second saying 'Allo Ronnie' How you been doing,? Were you up stairs or downstairs?
Then for real if the real talking really began and Ronnie opened his mouth muttering 'I did mine, It's time for you to do yours'. Just as most Public wouldn't care to sit in the same room with Frankenstein they would leave the entire double decker bus empty if the living dead walking corpse of Ronnald Kray got on asking for a single to Valance Road.
"They never harmed the public". Try saying that to any one of the business owners, shop keepers and publicans that were forced to put up with their nonsense. Nothing but thieving murderers and I will never understand the hero worship that still goes on about this family even today. The world is a better place without them.
Evil personified.
Summed up perfectly
Technically to say there evil is farfetched I'd say they they did more good then anything
@@jellyfish9802 technically the murders racketeering and thievery that they perpetrated were not seen as good by any of the people whose lives they affected. If you think otherwise you're deluded. Nobody handed their hard earned money over to the kray firm out of respect. None of the families of the people they murdered would agree that what they did was a good thing. The police corruption that they engendered was not good for the police not the public. Getting your own way through others fear of you is not a good way to live and NOBODY wants to live in fear. The world becomes a slightly better place every time a gangster dies.
@@Matelot123 @@Matelot123 I'm not justifying murder however if you had to choose who ran your city I promise you would pick the krays 100 percent of the time over the cartel and you know why as long as you dont fuck with the krays there not gonna beat your ass for nothing that's how they do business there properly affiliated I dont even have to say anymore the video shows 100s of people there so
I visited the grave side today, it was quiet with a slight breeze. Sun was shining and nobody else was around.
Proper gangsters not like these blazing squad man bag wearing little muppets these days
Itsme Yepitsme proper gangsters😂 they were both nonces
Sufc Davie Your comment just proves your ignorance. A "Nonce" is an evil Paedophile, which is an adult who is sexually attracted to children. The Krays had sex with ADULTS!
Proper gangsters. They were a couple of kiddie fiddlers and were locked up forever because they knew too much about fellow kiddie fiddlers in the establishment. Anyone that worships these two are worshipping paedophiles. Fucking bacons. They were nothing.
Dawn Rose Wallflower you couldn’t be more wrong lolololololol they prayed on poor under age boys
None of them went to war so our grandads and great uncles were real gangsters
I didn't realise they were so short
They were not that short 6 foot. The prison on government orders had them escorted by the tallest prison officers in the prison system, exactly to get the reaction you did…
"They weren't allowed to go to the grave side ... "
In the earlier biopic, starring Gary and Martin Kemp, the closing scene of the film has both twins at the graveside.
Minders? Is that what they're calling prison officers now? 🤔 I see no sign of Dennis Waterman !!! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
That's known as 'artistic license'.
@@apathyintheuk265 The film also has Reg killing Jack The Hat and Ron killing George Cornell on the same night, when in reality those murders occurred 3 years apart. Major use of artistic license for dramatic effect.
Two people whose mother feasted on the destruction and violence of their evil lifestyle. She could see no evil in them. She doted even on their "business," which all London knew was extortion and murder. everyone attending this funeral were gullible and possessed a twisted sense of loyalty.
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@@mariolisa2832 fatherless activity
Well said. They're now known to have been a pair of sick and twisted perverts and still idiots idolise them.
@@dave8204 stop being a hater the krays are our British hero’s
@@boxingexpert9919 Ha ha, well I love your joke!
I like how Ron never let's the guard he's handcuffed to walk in front of him and keeps two paces ahead making the guard Ronnies prisoner.
Don't chat shit.
@@spudhead1161 haha
you're over thinking it mate, the guard was just walking behind a bit that's all
@@richardbryant3169 who ties your shoe laces for you?
Yeah right.
Been fascinated with the Krays growing up with brothers in London. Hate them or love them they have captivated people to this day.
They were the Boys
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They were gae
@@jejrhriktntndkkwnrjriths1510 grow up
Yep, the old Krays craze!
They actually got treated very well for being such violent criminals. If Julian Assange (a convicted criminal with no incidents involving violence) loses a parent, will he be let out for the funeral? Britain is a very weird place these days.
He would actually
Lmao why would you use Julian assange as a comparison?! 😂 like what?
@@beantown5343 Ask a grown up to read terrythekittie's post and explain to you. I'm guessing you wear slip-on shoes.
@@dave8204 oooo you’re so edgy
Kray twins were connected with politicians. Look up Lord Robert Boothby who was a pa3dophile
I can never understand people who hero worship people like the Krays, it seems a bit odd to me.
I think because they were working class who made something of themselves albeit through criminal activities. Depending on who you ask some say the Kray's never hurt innocents only people involved the criminal underworld and others call them thugs. But back when they around it was different to today. The working class were considered ill mannered uneducated scum. The Kray's pulled themselves out of being poor working class and ran a successful night club and attracted celebrities to them like magnets plus they basically ran the East end so I get why people are fascinated by them.
@michael leitch Your living in fantasy world, the myth of the Krays is so far from the truth you wouldn't believe, I suggest you do a bit of research concerning those 'loveable' crooks and it may change your opinion.
@@Muirton66 He’s entitled to his opinion just like you are and lots of people find the krays fascinating . If you don’t like them then fine but many people do like them . I Adore Ron and I’m Not interested in your negative views !!
@@tina5203 Fair enough but you are correct we are all entitled to our opinions hence the reason I commented, it is my opinion.
@@Muirton66 yes but you’re making out that all the films books etc about them are all rubbish and you have “ discovered the truth “ about them . You didn’t know them or any of their family friends or associates . So you can’t really say it’s all a fantasy or myth !!
I couldn't understand why they interviewed Rod Hull at Violet's graveside, especially as Emu wasn't with him, but then I realised it was Charlie Kray.
THAT'S who I was thinking of 🤦
If only they could come back and sort out the gangs that are around today.
Krays and Richardsons would sort out north and south of the river.These gangs of today are little boys compared to them.
I do not necessarily agree with some of the things that the Krays and Richardsons did but we would not have these boy gangs about now and knife crime would be hardly heard of.
That's racist. Are you saying that the white gangsters are better at murdering people than the black gangsters? That's a very offensive statement. They're trying their hardest. No need to be mean and ting.
Pablo Escobar you know nothing
Pablo Escobar Sorry! After checking my comments again, I can see that you were correct.
Christopher Fisher It is the police's job not their job gangsters.
Pablo Escobar you know your stuff. The dundon-McCarthy’s weren’t smart enough though but bad and stupid in their own way. The Adams and smiths and nashes and arifs and brindles and Riley’s all still have a hold over London
Didn't hurt the public? Aren't the business owners who had to pay protection classed as "public".
It is widely reported that unlike traditional protection rackets, where its "You pay or we hurt you" people would actually ask to be under the protection of the Krays. Then they got actual protection.
@@TommyRayzer Rubbish. Nobody was willingly handing their profits over to these thieves.
@@Matelot123 And you can speak for every business right? WRONG
@@mariolisa2832 I don't need to speak for every business but the police did and so did the court. The Kray firm was broken up and jailed because of their violent and murderous activities which included protection rackets. Everybody knew what they were doing. I used to know someone who collected money from business owners on behalf of the Kray firm and he was quite clear nobody was asking for protection. The only people they needed protection from WAS the Krays. Don't take it from me though. The Krays wrote books while they were in prison in which they ADMITTED to running protection rackets. Geoffrey Pearson was allowed access to their lives BY the Kray twins as those two vain idiots wanted their story told. His book also details their activities in depth. They were all given lengthy jail sentences for activities which included running protection rackets. These are facts which all the Kray fanboys in here refuse to see. You are welcome to believe that the Krays were benevolent local businessmen. Just don't try to convince me. I'm from Stepney and EVERYBODY knew of the Krays and what they did. Only uninformed fools believe they were misunderstood nice guys.
Or the little children they used to interfere with and acquire for the likes of Lord boothby?
They aint got shit over Ronnie Pickering
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@JM #7 RACING Me. That's who.
@JM #7 RACING Search his name on UA-cam
I'm sure ronnie pickering was there
It ain't half term again.
At least they could attend their mothers funeral unlike my wife because of a interview to have a interview with esa
Lmao
If she worked, she could of took a day off
Never seen sex offender get treated like this
facts
That’s coz some of the people in power including judges priests as we all know are sex predators so they don’t get harsh sentences.
Fcuked up judicious system
@@timwelford6396 you're so bleeding right there. this country is going down the dogs and bleeding fast. but you wait and see when the trash start living next door to the rich Fockers that's when the system will change you Mark my words. stay safe governor
Too right they were well known for liking young boys
@@dirkdiggler4667, said from your keyboard , tough guy
The police even used huge police officers to try and make the twins look inferior! Legends.
Lucas Jackson i know good on the police !
Lucas Jackson the krays weren’t tall anyway lol
@@thewizard636 That's got nothing to do with it pal! Any fool can see the officers are very tall, go and watch the full Documentry where the police even admit to doing it to undermine the Krays reputation.
Fuck the feds
Lucas Jackson I totally agree with your comments.
Thank you very much!
They always looked classy in those expensive suits.
Yeah they took pride in their apperances that is one thing nobody can say those boys were snappy dressers
jordan kennedy Most were bespoke suits from Savile Row, and how gorgeous Ron always looked !!😊
@@tina5203 i didnt know that i just know they always took pride in their apperance.
jordan kennedy yes they always got their suits from Savile Row in London. Even in Broadmoor, Rons tailor always visited him and made his immaculate suits for him, and he always wore silk shirts ties and crocodile shoes . He was the most elegant man and gorgeous with it . Just my opinion !! 🥰
@@tina5203 really well thank you for teachimg me somethimg new i seriously did not know that yeah they always dressed the best of the best yeah he was a handsome man
Watching from Peterborough England United kingdom 2021
They kept all of the villainy under control. No one stepped out of line. They hated grasses, sex offenders, people who committed crimes to do with women and children. They couldn't stand petty housebreakers.
The twins would never have stood for muggings and the sort of street crime that's going haywire today. In those days the East End was a better and safer place for the general public to live in, and I feel a bit proud of that. The twins did a job the police couldn't do, and there are a lot of coppers who would admit it.
The twins should have been given a medal.
- Tony Lambrianou.
They were dirty criminals who made ordinary people live in fear. Grow up.
@@flash8854 literally deluded. It’s just nut job nonsense. “Plague can’t touch people with the seal of god”, 😂😂😂🤡🤡😂😂😂
What is the seal of God? www.gotquestions.org/seal-of-God.html
@@flash8854 why don’t you explain. I’m hardly likely to click a link from you.
Oh for goodness sake, they committed murder, armed robberies, arson and sexual offences.Stop glorifying a couple of useless violent arseholes who believed they were above the law. They weren’t.
Certainly they hated being caught out and imprisoned, exactly where they belonged in my opinion. Don’t try to make it sound grand. It’s pure thuggery.
Glad the Richardsons were mentioned, they ruled South London the way the Krays ruled North of the river. They were often at the Savoy Ballroom in Catford. They also used Mr Smith's Club in Rushey Green. The Krays and Richardsons did not get on to say the least. However there was a difference, the Krays wanted to be famous, the Richardsons rich. The Krays became infamous, the richardsons did not get rich and like the Krays spent some considerable time in jail.
The krays didnt rule north London, they barely controlled the east london
I wouldn't mind being a £1 behind the Richardsons
The kayseri didn't rule North of the river, they ruled Bethnall Green and the surround. They has limited stock in the west end and North London.
@@jamiejosh96 how the fuck do u know were u there fanny
@@cheistiandunn7988 They did not even rule Bethnal Green. Bethnal Green had an elected council with Parliamentary representation. They endevoured to rule by terrorism their rival Underworld gangsters. But clearly as they were trying to bring Mafioso crimesters in and enter mass distribution of dangerous illgal criminal drugs, then they were clearly not trying to keep their ideas of rule to just their supposed home turf. Had they kept to their home turf the CIA Secret Service Agents would not have infiltrated their gang. By 1966 (Starting 1st April 1966) when they shot Cornel. The Blind Beggar Pub was in Tower Hamlets and the Crazy Krays did not rule Tower Hamlets.
I used to worship them when I was a teenager. Then I grew up. A lot don’t
Don't believe everything you hear. People today get a lot less for a lot worse. My Grandad lived in the next street. The only people the Kray's hurt were their own kind. There were no old ladies getting mugged or worse and no kids being messed with, they wouldn't dare. Grandad told me it was the safest place to be.
My dad said that too! And would never let a bad word be said about them in his presence.
Good day from Australia people 🇦🇺✌️🦘🇦🇺all the best over there,our mother country,to some anyway.
The only people they hurt were their own kind, I stopped reading after that, maybe you need to stop believing what you hear.
They were 2 scumbags, end of story.
They were still mass murderers who shouldn’t be glorified
love how Ronnie was the one leading the guard and not the other way. always had to be the top ha
Great clip - very interesting
Whoever they are..coming here after watching legends and they don't seem evil...
You're confusing the 1980s Tom Cruise movie, Legend, about a hero fighting goblins with the newer movie about these scumbags.
I'd have been tempted to give that reporter a smack in the mouth for that remark. Yes, the Krays were violent criminals no-one is disputing that. However, Charlie was right, compared to the criminal element of today, his brothers kept and dealt with things very much 'in-house' and didn't involve the public. Ronnie died whilst still incarcerated in Broadmoor and the authorities only released Reggie when they knew he was dying of cancer, it was nothing more than a token gesture which reflected very badly on them, not Reggie. The twins were made an 'example' of by the judicial system and the only criminals who have suffered a similar length of imprisonment since are serial killers (who have murdered totally innocent people). The Krays victims, in many ways, 'had it coming' so to speak. That for me, is the difference (and a sizeable one at that) between the Krays and the likes of Denis Nielsen, The Yorkshire Ripper, The Moors Murderers etc...
Your remarks are excellent.
'...the only criminals who have suffered a similar length of imprisonment since are serial killers'
Charlie Bronson would disagree, and he's never killed a single soul.
@@KumaBean Of course, I wasn't looking for people to split hairs with me. You are right about Bronson, but he is an extraordinary case in that the authorities see him as (and he has proven this time and time again) extremely violent. If you read Bronson's wikipedia page you will see what I mean, a very chequered history in both prison and 3 psychiatric hospitals. He is too dangerous to be released back into society, hence why his sentence was changed to life imprisonment from an original 7 year stretch for armed robbery.
Andy Cross He is a nutjob to be fair, lol 🤝
Absolute bollocks. The krays threatened and harmed innocent traders who wouldn’t pay them protection money. Ordinary people trying to make a living. I’m glad the arseholes rotted in prison. They shouldn’t have been let out for the funeral either.
I'm here because of Netflix
Yo tambien hermano
Yeah they did love and respect their mother
But think people are forgetting about the other people they hurt.They didn't think about their victims families
But they killed or hurt people who disrespect them or where rude to them
@@TomPlumleyy "Where". You mean "were" surely. Or maybe ( most likely) you're illiterate.
@@heiltd1286 sorry didn’t realise my English teacher entered the chat
@@TomPlumleyy so that means it’s ok to publicly murder 4 people, one of them with a carving knife? Because they disrespected you?
@@heiltd1286 🤓
I loved ron and reg rip xxx
If Ronald and Reginald we’re alive today and tried to do what they did in 2021, they’d be caught before they could get started. you’re deluded if you think that these two would ‘sort out’ today’s London.
You underestimate the violance of these men
Ye but the young guys are taking over london
Spoken like a true young wanker.
@@Dozzy574 the young guys are unorganised little skinny knife wielding pussies. the Kray gang would have wiped their whole family out if they dared stepping out of line, these wannabe gangsters today would shit their pants going up against a real gang
In the days of respect! .... This country was a better place back then!
Don’t be a Burke it wasn’t. And that wasn’t respect.
it really wasn't
@@peteconrad2077 I meant in general, not the funeral..!!
@@chrisdavidson911 I meant in general, not the funeral..!!
I want to know the name of the cemetery where the brothers were buried. ؟
Hi there its trev Dec singer songwriter here they are bired at Chingford cheamtry Essex
Charlie your right r I p all
Love how Charlie talks, and I'm very fascinated with the twins!! RIP Violet ❤🙏
There's a really good book about the krays you might like..a history of violence it's called.
@@leonhorder8979 Do you mean "The Profession Of Violence" by John Pearson who sadly recently passed away? It is a good book. Shows the Kray family to be the absolute drain on society that families like this always are and the twins as the evil thieving murderous bullies that they were.
Don’t be fascinated, they were violent criminals.
@@mikew742I’m fascinated too, as are many, many others
Never harmed the public...? Yeah I believe you..
Great video stay safe.
Great upload 👍 thank you
No matter wat u think of the KRAYS they loved there mum very much 💕💕
They also loved little boys very much.
Ain't that sweet?
She didn't turn sex for rent
Everybody loves their mum doesn't make them special
Pair of bum lovers
Charlie Kray, the mastermind!!
That was Magnuss Magnussun
2:45 - That was one of the worst continuity edits I've ever seen. As if anyone would actually talk to a Kray like that.
It was so obvious 😂
All this comment who would have the balls to call one of the Crays a wanker to their face.
Don’t you mean krays 🤣🤣🤣
Respect to Mrs Kray may she rest in Peace
if they made money how come there mum died living in council tower block
Because contrary to popular belief they never made a bean, especially in comparison to their contemporaries and their successors.
@@MadBoy8734 They never made a bean!? 😂 How many clubs did they own!? How many other Companies or businesses did they have under their protection racket!? How much was their flats worth!? How many people did they employ!? Yeah, So with all that they was broke were they!? 😂 Don't talk rubbish!
Yes they WERE WORSE off when they got arrested as all their assets were confiscated by the police!
But far from not having a bean, ya numpty.
Same as the so called gangsters today. Live in rough areas, in shit houses. Yet, think they are big.
@@MadBoy8734 They were nothing compared to the Adams.
When life was respect and people was respectful....
What respect. They used the word respect to mean fear. Grow up.
@@peteconrad2077
Well you was dumb crossing them 😉
All five foot seven of them
Which one was the bender ?
Your father
That was the one time that they could've made a break for it at thier mum's funeral
Could you imagine if their old firm members pulled up with guns and shit to break them out lmao
@@Hester-l6k Yeah. Plod would've shot them. And good riddance too.
lol yea i reckon if they could they would definitely have tried :-D
difficult to see in this report but they were handcuffed to officers.
@@mrgobrien People do manage to get out of handcuffs sometimes.
Love my lovely boys ripxxxxxxxx
So many keyboard warriors on here it's unreal. Calling them this and that.. Know them personally did you.
What do you think of hitler
right like for real so many people typing bullshit its funny to read
Well said i wonder if they would be that brave if the Krays were still here i dont think so
jordan kennedy I doubt old fragile men would care to much about a UA-cam comment section you fool.
The size of the guys escorting the Krays. Reggie's on record for saying that they did their best to make them look like dwarves for the cameras.
Simply because this way in a crowd the police on the fringe could still see where he was and less likely to get lost in the crowd.
@@12shankley Yeah that'd make sense.
Next the Ronnie Pickering family 😂😂😂
MyIceman12345 - who?
Do you know who I am?
Mr H - no. Who are you?
Rony Rony Pickering 😂😂😂
Let's have a bare knuckle fight then
Everyone I have ever met from the south east, have known the krays.
Hahahaha true that, I used to drink in a boozer in Mottingham and all the old gezzers in there apparently knew the Krays and hung out with them…..Yeaa whatever mate 😂😂
We need these guys back...They were top of the tree,they kept the innocent safe and kept the gangs under control,If we had them today crime would be kept under there control,and keep ordinary people safe! We need these boys back!
david mellor did they fuck
david mellor YOU FUCKING SILLY ARSE !
Don't chat shit idiot. They taxed shop keepers and are supposed to have provided young boys to film stars.
What a pathetic u educated comment
david mellor you fukin idiot
"Thames News" - i don't remember this being reported (in Birmingham) at the time - maybe I lived a sheltered life or it wasn't national news at the time!
So blackmailing extortion violence on innocent shop owners makes you a hero and a legend in London??? strange very very strange and sick!!! come on the Krays were no boyscouts??!! but that said 30 years in prison was also ridiculous to be honest!!
True - they should have been hanged!
Respect
Ron n Reg loved their old mam
Aw yeah they adored their mother and nobody ever disrespected that woman she was the queen.
Don’t think this would happen today. To let two high profile prisoners out wouldn’t happen today.
It would happen
Spud Spud I don’t think so on taxpayers money. And not as high profile as the Krays.
@@scotthopkins7711 I know so, i know quite a few cat A prisoners who have been to funerals. But not all do.
It's the law that anyone in prison who looses a parent while they are in prison has the right to go to their funeral
@@markroberts1665 Not every one does
They new to much ,hence they would never let them out
lol
They were good blokes really always looked out for people
They loved and respected there mother,the government was scared to let the twins out
Get real
Why are their police files been extended for another 50 yrs before you can see them
I never understand how people seem to not grasp there/they're/their. It's basic primary school English. It's not complicated. It's not rocket science.
@@timchamberlin9280 Unbelievable. It's the same with your/you're. This is basic elemental English that a reasonably intelligent child should grasp with ease. I think it's linked in with a dysgenic effect of rampant welfare in countries such as the UK encouraging the least intelligent to breed, whereas the smart people have one kid or none.
@@timchamberlin9280 Everyone has 'issues'. At least mine is not illiteracy.
What is so utterly farcical about some of the comments here is where those born into privileges criticise the Krays for being unethical, while failing to see how the Middle and Upper Classes are guilty of WORSE, they inflict and perpetuate poverty by either paying the poor s pittance of a wage, or are Shareholders who also deny the poor of a GENUINE Living Wage, because Conglomerates are obliged to pay Shareholders dividends, if Shareholders were exterminated, profits could then be used to pay GENUINE Living Wage to the poor
I haven’t read something as stupid as this in a long while…
What, do you think Elon musk’s 200 billion actually means something? It’s mostly none material things that he owns. You can’t magically turn money into food and homes.
If that amount of money was released in the public it would do lot more harm then good! It’s just inflation. The public wouldn’t get any richer, their money would become more worthless and their wages even worse.
Those shares are nothing but imaginary ideas and possible profit. Those shares can’t feed the homeless and can’t build houses for them.
Those shareholders contribute 100s of times more to society then the so call poor people. Their contribution is keeping your economy alive, so you can eat and drink sitting on a comfy ass couch, jerking off.
Those billionaire contribute much more then you ever will! You have no right to ask them for anything. You are worthless compare to their contributions to your well being and comforts you take for granted.
They aren’t guilt of shit! They have the right to care for themselves over the impoverished. And their money won’t turn into homes and food.
Exterminated? Profits? You mean now worthless imaginary money, that no longer means anything because you killed the people who gave it meaning AND you collapsed the economy by killing people who keep it going. dooming the whole world to starvation and civil war over scraps of food?
Are you that stupid and entitled to believe that you are owed ANYTHING by those people? People who feed you and dress you? Your ignorance is blinding
Nice way of explaining. It highlights working class stmpathy and adolation of the two.
@@riyadougla539 If you were intelligent then you will have noticed that my previous comment is in no way sympathetic to the Krays; in fact I do the opposite, highlight the hypocrisy of the privileged classes.
I'm afraid that if the Krays were around now, a 14 yr old kid on a pushbike would cycle up and just shoot them
@Junior Sanchez I suppose killing for something is ok?
@Junior Sanchez Killing isn't okay, nobody gave you the right to kill. You're not God, you're just another earth consumer like everyone else. Whatever your cause is, killing is and will never be ok.
Hors4TGS if someone raped and murdered any of my kids, then I don’t give two shits what you say, killing would definitely be ok. I would do it with a smile on my face and go to jail without a second thought.
@@itsaboutthattime4425 Congrats, you fucked up your life too. Your kids would be proud of you rotting in the jail for the rest of your life while of course suffering from their loss and complete lack of freedom, which would probably end in suicide. Be the better my man!
In some cases even murder can be justified, it just depends on who you target:
David Cameron, George Osbourne, Ian Duncan Smith, Pritti Patel, Boris Johnson, Tony Blair, Shareholders, and Conglomerates as they deny the poor of a GENUINE Living Wage, so they deserve to be barbarically slaughtered
Must be weird being behind the door for so long then let out for a few hours only to notice how much has changed in almost 20 years. Cars, dress sense, the area.... Its hard to comprehend... Then back to prison until you croak it.
Bring back death penalty ASAP and any person in authority who is found guilty of fabrication should be hung also 🎲
it was around 13 years (1969 to 1982) - long enough though.
they were one of your own r.i.p all the krays london was a safer place to live not like it is now
The world was a safer place to live in once upon a time ago, then what happened? You want me to give you a history lesson?
Waiting for the left ear version
Rest in peace xxxxx
Fuck off you idiot.
Rest in peace? For what terrorising oppressing and harming the innocent? Fking grow up
@@Justbeingmyself1-o5k fuck yourself 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈
@@spudhead1161 fuck you to 😈😈😈
Haha
Knew they were buried in Chingford Cem.... didnt know they had a service in the Old Church though!
On the whole in today's world, they're goodies. Nobody talks about "The Richardsons" do they. Cops were jealous of the twins.
How come they allowed them out for this?
Because it's their mother who died
Of what they knew. Establishment bowed
I got a letter once from reg , they would never let out not because of there crimes it was because of there influence on society and the government wanted it back , was absolutely wrong to keep the, locked out for that amount of time absolute disgrace god rest both there souls 🙏🏼
I think they made Ronnie have a heart attack 2
lol they killed people and you somehow think they were being persecuted with their sentences ?
I don't get this inability to understand there/their/they're. It's not rocket science. It's something that any averagely intelligent primary school child should easily grasp. Obviously Mr Lucan isn't exactly an intellectual collossus.
Rest the souls of all their victims.
Just looking at Ronnie and Reggie you would not know they where criminals. They look like successful business men, with Ronnie being the one in charge and Reggie as being the on the floor manager. Charlie looked like a school professor or principle
Men for the everyday person they only harmed those who were bad
Dale Parfitt speak for yourself you scumbag !
@@stephenroche5107 You're a fucking fool.
Did you know them? Did they tax shop keepers? yes they did. innocent people.
@@mattk5020 you're the tool
Dale Parfitt 😃
Where's Spiny Norman?
They would hurt the public.. violent types like this hurt anybody. Had this sort in my area. They would even hit or head butted kids if they thought them cheeky
They would only hurt or kill if they had to
@Tom Attoe not really if people where talking shit about them or doing deals about them then that’s why they would kill people you obviously don’t no
Awww Charlie
Why should they have been allowed out? One of the points of prison is that normal life is suspended. Their victims didn't get to go to their mums' funerals.
I have always had a lot of respect for the krays
I totally respected the krays, they looked out for the women and children in their patch made the placd safe, they should never have been jailed so long R I P ronnie and reggie
pair of nonces. Both were into young boys and even Reggie had a 21year old cellmate which is the youngest allowed in an adult prison. And ronnie was a proper psychopath. You don't want people like that on the street
They made an example of them two with the excessive sentences, definitely something else going on behind the scenes there with politicians or the lord or whoever,
Yep. The UK justice system doesn't usually hand out such long sentences.
Couldn't spot Courtney anywhere?😂
Busy down the Police station grassing up other firms and families . In Crystal palace he would meet a "handler " once a month at the Queens hotel .
My all the krays rest in peace
they was animals n savages but if you didnt cross them you was ok.they was real gangsters not like these plastic ones of today
The krays.are legends 👌
The Krays had to be what some people may class as sadistic savages, to show their dominance and instil fear in their rivals and enemies.
pair a big lads...🤣🤣🤣
That church is literally 5 minutes from where i live
So fucking what
@Steve tang0 what you on about the church is still there
Minhaj Nizam yep with a name like that i wouldn’t doubt it
@@rumandcoke7397 what's that supposed to mean
Minhaj Nizam hold on I’ll inform the Reuter’s press agency and let them know 😆
Nipper Read should be given proper credit. He wasn't corrupt like most of the other coppers back then. Ironically, one of his cases fell right apart because the witness was gay which was actually illegal back then.
R I p x
What a dumb comment, these two were vile horrible people who stole killed oppressed and murdered people. Sold drugs and taxed the poor
Adam and nonced little kids
Ronnie and Reggie Kray rest in Peace
Their older brother said he can’t believe the kindness...well...you and your kind would not know what the word means.....EVIL more like a word you would understand....
They inspired me
They were proper gangsters of London not like today all full of wannabes
Gays
Shows how popular they were, she lived in a flat for over 15 years, they were nobodies, apparently according to Barbra Windsor who knew Violet, she's sure Violet had no idea what her son's got upto