BIG FACTOR missed is the Range of the car is inversely proportional to the weight. More the number of passengers further decreases the range & we in India tend to move in full on packed up cars most times. So that Range is still a mystery. Forget 4 people generally we pack 5-6 people even in a small car.
EVs Already have so much weight and are heaviest in segment compared to conventional cars , only battery of some EVs weight more than whole tata nano car , weight of passengers is negligible compared to car - more passengers don't reduce range much the factor for range in EVs is aerodynamics
250 claimed range, would turn out in real world range of 125-130 kms only. So the viable option of EV Tiago is the long range version, which would return around 200 kms and that base versions would be around Rs 11 lacs. So in that way 3 years turn to somewhere around 5 year for recovering money invested
One big factor missing here is that the initial cost that you pay for a car is mostly through a car loan. The interest amount would be higher if the initial cost is high and vice versa, For an EV car you pay higher interest for the initial amount and for an ICE car, the amount gets adjusted in petrol/CNG but interest free.
EV also have two more issues. Currently many state govt and central govt are giving subsidy on purchase of EV or waiving off RTO charges as you said. But it might not always be true in future as well. Furthermore there is another major factor, replacement of battery after 10 years or so. Which could be as much as 40-50% total cost of car. This needs to be accounted for in long term running cost. Then there are other unknown factors such as resale value, easy availability of service centers and mechanics etc.
After 10 yrs battery will cost roughly half of what it does now (atleast) 30% of cost of ev is battery currently so 3 lakh for the battery pack(on pack level 200$/kw is standard currently) 19*2=3400$ = 3 lakh max. It will half atleast so add 1.5 lpa. You r old battery can be used as second life like inverters so will fetch 20k on exchange. 1.3 lakh so need not worry about battery change
@@bondnikunj and after battery change good for next 15 year, becoz in 10 year battery tech will improve and they last long, what is the cost of maintenance of petrol engine after 1.2 lakh and 10 year. So that it can last for next 15 year, longivety of ev vichele is also a point worth considering, government is planning ev registration for 20 to 25 year, this calculation will become more intense if running is 1500 km per month,
One major factor is missing. Tiago EV is far superior to drive. Easy and super smooth, with premium look and features. After driving the EV, you will not feel like driving the petrol or cng tiago at all. The engine and gearbox were the major weaknesses in tiago anyway. The only thing to check is your real range requirement. tiago LR will be 180-190km and tiago MR will be about 150km range in real life. If you think about it, it is approx the same range as you get in one refill of CNG! without the hassle of waiting in lines of taxis at a cng filling station. Because you can easily charge at home. As long as you have a 16Amp plug near the parking spot at home, charging the tiago is easier than even filling up petrol. It takes less than half a minute to plug in. But if you don't have home/office charging possible, I will say don't buy an EV yet.
EVs are great option as a secondary vehicle and Tiago seems cost effective option. You need to compare Petrol automatic option with EV in the same variant. In fact Tiago EV will reimburse the EMIs back if you have a daily running of 100kms X 25 days a month
The biggest disadvantage of EV at present is 'Range' At present it is only applicable for cities. Not every person can afford to keep 2 cars. However, if you already have a car and planning on a 2nd, EV makes so much sense.
@@abhishekgupta1066 currently average battery replacement cost is 5lakh after warranty and god forbidden during warranty something happens to the battery which is not covered within the warranty agreement, u can imagine the disaster. With more ev demand price if both ev cars and battery are not gona come down they are gona blow up. They are unnecessarily selling ev car costlier already. Its just corporate pulling out money form this ev craze. The battery degrades over time. After five years there would be no battery health left with no good range ev car coud go. So 2bd hand owner would have to spend freaking 5 lakhs just for battery change apart from the cost of the car it self. This is pure madness. M sorry m not gona buy a ev. A petrol car or cng which i can use for 8 years and change 👍🏻 or keep it till 15 years.
@@abhishekgupta1066 see thats the problem i M talking about. Every body is talking about buying ev and how cheap ev running cost is but no fucking body, i mean no youtuber no moto channel is taking about battery cost after warranty. Its like these corporates don't want us common people to know the truth. And the want to earn extra margin by just selling ev costlier that other cars bcoz there is a craze in buying ev right no and these corporates are fucking banking on this. I am telling you ev cars are a big scam. Thats why even in USA ev dint work. Think about why fucking japan with 0 electrical cuts never invested in EV car. They are making hybrid but not 100% ev.
Xz plus and XE are not same You should take XE models of all variants and then compare You are increasing the base cost of petrol which itself takes the calculation out of practicality Also if you have to go outstation you may have to hire car which is again additional cost. You have also forgot resale factor of the car as resale for electric car is close to zero in year 7 onwards and for petrol you will secure at least 1.5 to 2 lacs for models chosen by you
@@askyrom5316 May be that is true however that is a prediction here the video is talking on facts and numbers and today’s reality is >80% people are buying EV as secondary car so petrol cars will have resale value due to sheer practicality
@@MayurMahindrakar007 1. petrol cars will be capped to 10 yrs of life by 2026 approximately. 2.Evs currently don t have resale value as it s a new technology and developing one. So the resale point for a usage of 7 years is currently invalid. Also Tata gives a 8 years warranty on battery and motor . So the battery will be degraded by 40% by the age of 10-12 years since only damaged cells have to be replaced. 3.Tata tiago is a city based car and not a outstation type car. For outstation type car in electric it is Tata nexon ev max or byd cars currently. In my opinion people who travel within the city should eye an ev and people who regularly travel outstation currently should go with IC vehicle. But for city based car ev is best. And not all people go for outstation . Buying ev or petrol is not a generic decision but rather based on your personal car usage style ki aap ek baar mein kitna runn lete ho car ka
@@Estrogroup on the first part of your answer These are predictions no one as of today can predict will it be by 2026 or by 2030 or by 2035 so when you are doing calculations you have to consider facts If we have to keep predictions only here are a few 1. When we moved from petrol to CNG the prices rose faster than of petrol so it may happen for electricity as well Around the city commuters specially people who go with Tiago (i am stating the first time car buyers) normally have very low running like only weekends type I have like more than 30% population where I live use cars very less and those are city commuters The ones who are heavy users normally go for diesel and are mostly highway runners so the break even in terms of kms might be true however in terms of time it is too long and that is the reason i picked up resale and battery replacement points Anyways even in current comparison he picked XZ plus of petrol and XE of EV so initial cost difference is higher and the break even in terms of kms will be higher as the initial cost difference is even higher plus when talking finances you have to consider the opportunity loss as well because saving 3 lacs up front and investing them will again get you higher returns As you said it is case to case basis and depending on individuals requirements however i found many irregularities in the comparison he presented
@@MayurMahindrakar007 definitely putting all the money upfront isn t a good idea at all in case of personal car . I said on the interest part because in India people buy cars on loan so if u have are getting loan on a car and you get refund of all interest so it is beneficial right. Plus the point you said that invest the amount and earn interest or dividend. That goes without saying. So eg tiago cost 9 lac i make a downpayment of 2 lac and further in 3 yrs i make emi payment of 2 lac per year so at the end of 4th year on 100,000 balance the interest which i have to pay for the car is just 7500-8000. So tototal cost of car excluding all service nd charging is 9,08000 to be paid over a period of 4 years. This sounds a good deal. And I agree with you on the first time car buyers point. If you are wondering why is 3 years interest not accounted so the reason is the person gets income tax deduction of the interest paid on finance of electric vehicle for 3 years from the purchase.
You should continue ownership calculation till 7-10 years(Battery replacement in EV will be a good cost) I think you have done this in your other videos.
Since EVs are auto-transmission... comparing it with the similar variants would be more appropriate... and I am pretty sure that the difference will be even bigger...
Being a Current Tata Tiago owner on petrol it gives 10 to 12 in city and max 17 on highway on other hand cng gives 17 to 20 in city like mumbai and recently done trip to goa where it gave above 30 milage on average speed of 80 to 100.
Vvvv excellent explanation v practical. Just 1 point to add for those who buy ev through finance first 3 years interest free since Income tax benefit . So assuming 8% interest rate so Rs184000-190000 additional savings and compared to a petrol or cng car. Tata Tiago is a city based car. Nexon ev max is as you wish
Main thing to consider is battery replacement cost after 1.5 lakh km or 8 years which is the warranty period of tisgo ev. But still if ur running is in city like 100 kms per day , best choice is ev. Thats why most people doing delhi noida or delhi gurgaon per day are buying nexon ev as it is dirt cheap.
8 saal baad battery puri nhi chali jayegi. 80 percent capacity retained rahegi. 😑 . aur battery ki life car ki life se bhi zyada hoti hai .25-30 years saal baad bhi 50 percent capacity bachegi.
8 saal baad kharab nhi hogi 8 years is warranty so on heavy usage as you think the estimation of 40% of battery to be replace(assuming on higher side) after 10-12 years
Battery replacement cost after 5 years and resale value also plays major role in this calculations. If you take into account battery replacement cost, EV will become costlier. Also, EV has zero resale value. Add these two factors and then do the calculation.
If "Brand Name" is not your priority & you need good comfort , space, storage, then consider Citroen C3, the most value for money model from French company, having 3 cylinder 1200 cc engine & price starting from 6.20 lakhs ( on road ).
Great analysis towards buying, however you didn't consider resale value for the car, also to add over the years the charging capacity of the battery won't be sane so maybe first year would give you 150kms on full charge, but later it will go down further to maybe 120kms or so
I think there is one factor u need to add to ev that battery depletion of around 5 % per year means ur range will decrease by 7.5km per year u will lose 40km range end of 5 yr, if ur vehicle will be parked in extreme hot condition depletion of batteries will be fast u might need to replace batteries before estimated time even tho ur vehicle in warranty they will charge u for batteries , i think u must wait for flexfuel engine cars
@@AzamAli-ce7tt an engine need to be replace after 15 years and you can even take to 20 years. Not with battery. Engines costs less than battery. Engine parts are cheap and easy to replace
There is no major EV on sale today that has battery degradation of 5% per year. None! Modern LFP batteries or NMC+liquid cooled pack have hardly 0.5% degradation per year. It can be less if car is home charged and not DC fast charged. Home charging is also much cheaper. In models with poor BMS or tier2 cell chemistry it can be more, but still hardly 1% per year.
I'm not sure if anyone noticed but service costs of EV was 20,000 but in final calculations its showing as 16000. Just a small video, very helpful video !!
I think after 3 or 4 year EV would be a better option and there should be more charging station would have been installed...Right now i think CNG is better option as per availability. By the way plz consider insurance cost per year. Nice compare
If you increase the km per month, CNG would come out as best option. Its more cost effective then petrol and provide decent fuelling network coverage which is going to increase in future.
You need to watch more EV video as now a days there are fast chargers in tier 3 cities as well. There are videos made where people have driven and reached hill tops as well also you forgot to mention about the regen part then again the main benifit of EV is that the ammount of POWER you get as its a motor there is an excellent POWER and yes EV is fully Automatic WITHOUT ANY LAG so if someone wants a tiny car with the performance of Mercedes you can get it See every coin has two sides but as of now EV side is beneficial
Factors not considered :Battery range decreases after getting old. Also consider future options of using more ethanol in petrol car and flex fuel kits will be available in coming years for old petrol cars.
@@sayanbose4931 hope so.. But as per the info available on internet.. Currently we(India) are importing the Li Ion batteries.. The cost may come down when the manufacturing starts here... I guess the difference in cost of batteries may be similar in proportion to that of difference in cost of made in India iPhone and imported ones... moreover we(India) have very limited reserves of Li.. In future also we may need to import Li from China ... Fuel cell could be the answer... but it itself is very expensive.. I sincerely hope someday soon we will be able to drive inexpensive ... tail pipe pollution free vehicles... :)
EVs have a long way to go not only with range and charging stations but also the maintenance and features. Whereas petrol cars are reliable and at their best right now. Initial price will be less for petrol car but exchange with EV when it becomes travel proof. The price difference is huge but convenience is also better.
Good analysis, one more thing for EV: after warranty period when battery replaced will cost very high amount which is not compare with any stage of petrol or CNG cars. one more thing EV efficiency will also be down over the years...
EV is always better, may be it's in developing phase, but perks this varient have, no other can have that much spirit👍🏻 ultimately it's up to us, whom we gonna see in future, also look at larger perspective in terms of climate change, thank you
One point you have missed. If you are considering ev for 4yrs I feel ev charging stations availability will increase rapidly. I am seriously now thinking of Tiago ev. Currently I spent almost 10k on diesel hatchback. The money saved can be adjusted against emi if I take any loan. And after 4-5yrs loan will be closed.
One factor which we should consider in electric cars is the life of battery and performance dip of battery over years. Rest, very nice and elaborated comparision.
Battery technology in 5 year will definitely change , faster charging like petrol filling time in near future. Price also will be competitive - so replacement at the end of 8 to 10 years will be cheaper. So better opt for EV and enjoy smooth riding. Initially in city is better and once infra is developed one can venture long distance.
@@hareshpatel1311. Not really, tata's lfp batteries are rated for 3000 charge cycles for battery to degrade to 80% of its original capacity. LR version has a claimed range of 315km, so we can get around 250km range in real life, So the car can do 750,000kms before the battery degradation is noticeable, yet the car will still be usable. If we consider a owner charges his car twice a week. It will take 28yrs for the battery to degrade to 80% I don't understand how people considered ev batteries only last max 5 yrs, This isn't a low cycle rated lithium ion battery. Some people even consider that battery should be changed after 80k kms, That was a rare case where battery failed, and whole battery was replaced free of cost as these evs come with 1,60,000 kms or 8yrs of warranty. So again, battery replacement cost every 5yrs is straight up cap.
Not a primary car can be your EV, but for secondary purpose - travelling only in your city, EV will be a great choice. Only if you are planning for a second one without selling the first one - petrol/cng.
Good analysis. I have been also quite keen on an EV car; but what discouraged me from booking the seemingly attractive deal for a Tiago EV is the cost of battery after warranty is over. Battery swapping for EV car could be a remedy; but then it's an expensive,nascent technique which has recently begun in a very few spots in San Francisco. So until EV batteries become really cheap & affordable or swapable or thecost of EV car comes down to be at par with fossil fuel cars; it would be wise to continue with the same & spend on fuel which one would have to sped on the extra cost of an EV car; which is atleast double the cost of a fuel car.
Most of Tata car traction batteries are designed to run over 8 years with about 80 to 90 percent capacity still retained. Better batteries with 95 to 98 percent capacity left do exist, but those are more expensive. It truly depends on how much driving requirements you will have after 9 or 10 years....the battery will generally outlast the car imo
Major Consideration 1. Cost of Battery if u r owning full r 5 Years 2. Time To fuel your vehicle (Time is more precious than money) 3. Resale Value after 5 years After considering these factor factors Petrol or Diesel os best at present as per my consideration
@@ananddixit995 yes u r right, धरती पर उपलब्ध प्राकृतिक संसाधन हमारी जरूरत पूरी करने के लिए हैं, लालच की पूर्ति के लिए नहीं, travelling in private vehicles are comfortable, easy & cozy but it will eat planet Earth a little Early.
@@sanky1211 u r right, and industries makes car, (tyre, seal belt, pvc, leather, lamp, led, brake, touch screen, mirror, wiper, seat cover, perfume, engine value, battery, and 200 other parts.) crued oil refinement to get petrol and diesel, then transport it to all over india
You have missed to consider the battery degradation cost which would in turn decrease the range, every lithium battery would show up quite a good decrease in performance after 3-4 years. Which would mean that you would end up burning more electricity for charging your vehicle. Also the battery warranty for EVs have certain T&C which has to be considered, they clearly mention certain % of degradation in capacity which won’t be covered under warranty of so and so years
Total ownership cost is always for complete life of vehicle.....and game changes after warranty period where you need to add cost of replacing battery. Also please consider cost of charging outside home. Especially with fast charging
One important calculation is the amount of interest you can earn on the money you don't have to pay upfront with a petrol car. Assuming you pay 2.5 lacs extra for an EV, you can earn approx 1 lac interest on that money in 4 years at an interest rate of 8% per annum compounded annually.
Few more points. 1. Range anxiety 2. Less charging station 3. Cost at charging station ( sometime it's upto 50-100 rs per unit ) 4. Value of your time. ( Consider if someone need to travel 500km then avg 100kmph ke hisab se petrol me it will take 5 hrs + 10 mins Max for refueling. In case of ev it's 5hrs + 15 hrs additional for charging) for city driving it makes sense but for highway or long drive still petrol rocks By the way if you turn on AC or do up hill driving then expect less range. And don't forget the cost for battery replacement which may happen at 3rd or 4th year mostly.
Are you crazy ? Ev batteries will outlast the car itself The battery will be working even after 3 lakh kms Why do you think car companies give an 8 year warranty or 1.6 lakh kms See EV batteries in europe and how long they last
@@malayshah7467 Hye Bro , time will tell that but if I ignore that as well then also the math towards 500-600 Km drive will remain same. Now its upto you if you want to save the time or money.
Battery replacement cost after 7-8 years will offset most of the benefit, moreover price diffrence between cng and Ev means interest earned on the price diffrence will also impact the calculations.
The major flaw with EV is the range, time taken to top up the battery, and resale value of the vehicle. Tiago has a 35L fuel tank, so with 17KMPL average, it comes to around 595 KM range. The time take to refill the tank with petrol say it might take 3-4 minutes and you are off again, but for an EV it can be anywhere between 2hrs to 10hrs depending on what type of charger you have hooked up your car to. Short trips like to the grocery store or picking up the kids from school this would be fine, but as your main car, your daily driver EVs are unreliable. Just this scenario, you live in an appartment complex, you came home from work, you plug in your car in the wall charger, take the lift to go home, few minutes later a group of kids are playing hide and seek, one of the kids trip over the wire or moves the charging cable ever so slightly knowingly or unknowingly, your car stops charging now. Next day, you wake up as per schedule, get ready for work, walk down to the car, unplug the car and get into it only to find a suprise, the car did not charge the whole night. Good luck explaining to your boss as to why you are late for work. If this was a petrol or diesel car, you just make a quick 3-4 minute pit stop at a petrol bunk fill up the car with fuel and keep on going with your life on time.
Trip over the cable and EV stops charging 🤣🤣, its not your phone/laptop cable, after you start charging EV it locks the cable in place and even if you try to pull the cable by force it will not budge at all, I wonder if you have ever seen EV charger
trip over a cable ?🤣🤣 lmao this guy has imagination. just because it's possible, doesn't mean it will happen also, you are ignoring that all apartments are investing in providing proper charging points at parking spaces costs them ₹800 to install basic 16A point at parking slot
I hate the fact that people haven't studied about it or haven't even experienced somthing and they say that its useless not worthy and just assume things It has a different and an safely approach towards charging they have thought alot even the chargers are rain proof
It depends on the usage...for example........ 1) Monthly 1000 km Running, best way to go with petrol 2) Monthly 2000 km Running, best way to go with CNG 3) Monthly 3000 km Running, best way to go with EV..... As your Calculation Running cost Petrol Perkm/Rs.5.50 CNG Perkm/Rs.3.50 EV Perkm/Rs.1.25
Please consider these two variables as well: 1. Resale value after 5 years 2. Instead paying the 1-2L extra upfront, what if that amount invested in Stocks or other places, 3. Fast charging rates are not 10rs 4. Cost for Time wasted during charging ev
My yearly runing is 25000 Petrol scooty price after 3 year -75000×1.6=120000rs Total 85k+120k- 205k rscost And ola S1 (i get only 75km of range in 25rs) so 1/3×75000=25000 Total 112k+ 25k=137k Money save in 3 year -68000rs And after 4 year it will-90000rs And ola s1 battery life 1200cycle×80km - 96000km 96000km life is good for 4 year
Friend few comments you can consider 1) The model version you compared is not the same, you consider the petrol and CNG manual version.EV is By default automatic version that to of great quality better than CVT and DCT, Tiago you get AMT which is Desi Jugaad. It doesnt come with CVT or DCT. 2) Most of the people buy car on finance so for EV you will spend more on Interest compared to petrol and CNG. 3) on EV car loan you get income tax benefit under section 80 EEB 4)EV cars are like smart phones with their battery capacity gradually decreasing over time and you get less mileage and increase the headache of charging it frequently. The company doesn't say it but its inherent problem of battery. 5) EV cars charging cost will be different if charged at home vs some commercial fast charging station vs free fast charging station at the office if you have one. Few points to consider for comparisons.
You didn't talk about how after 5 years petrol car can be sold very easily in the second hand car market whereas the the battery of an EV depletes and it will lose its value substantially.
Not many will buy a second hand petrol car after 5 years. The factor of environment will be a game changer. Within 5 years, to control pollution, govts and companies will push EVs. As such petrol is a limited commodity- It won't last forever
Ev ke benefits to hai... Abhi india me initial stage me hai isliye hum bahut jada soch rahe hai... Jab demand increase hoga to mass production hoga jisse products ke cost me fark padega... R&D me investment hoga new technologies introduce hongi products ko cheaper karne ke liye.. batteries ke technology me bhi aage sudhar hoga range aur achhi hongi... Environment me thoda behtari hoga.. import bills me kami aayegi.. oil pe dependency kam hogi.. dhire dhire infrastructure develop hoga jaise charging station ke availability har jagah install honge... Tourism sectors wale bhi participate karenge charging facility available karwane me.. sare hill station, tourist places me pahle focus rahega. Car to nahi lekin main scooty use kar raha hu electric aur main bahut satisfied hu. Next car meri pakka ev hi hogi.
Its not only about cost effectivemess following factors also very important 1)EV should have atleast 500km range. 2) fast charging and infra should be available 3) how about battery's life 8..10.. years. Cost of battery.
The big factor you ignored is practicality. Most Indian keep only one car at a time for city highway and trips. EV doesn’t fulfilling all those conditions at least this point of time. Period!
Most important both are different variants If you compare xz plus in electric car with petrol and cng then it will not save money instead it will cost you more Petrol engin willl last lakhs of km while battery will age and cost lakhs
1 you need to take automatic varients cost for cng which is not available cuz ev is automatic 2 you need to take the xt varient of ev which has comparable features that cost 10l 3 you took service cost of petrol car for 5 years 16k. It would at least be 25k 4 the power and torque we get in ev is much more than petrol or cng 5 for ev car you will need a closed parking with switches and chargers installed
Insurance cost bhool gaye aap jodna cost of ownership me + tyres too . just go on the highways & see the number of chargers available . Especially in Maharashtra, Gujrat, Karnataka, Goa , AP , MP . Lots of chargers available on approximately 20-30 km range
Bhai, also consider the resale value of the EV car, since battery life is just max 5-6 yrs. Also the higher cost of ownership at the start, the owner can invest the money in any of the equity mutual funds to earn 12% per annum additional return for 5 yrs. Apart from that the concept of go-green in India, we are producing close to 70% of our electricity via thermal which is already creating pollution, also another twist which every common man don't aware is the emission for production the LITHIUM ION batteries is almost the same which a petrol car produces in its 5 yrs life span. So we must focus on EV only when it is coming with some really go green technology
The battery range decreases over time. EV battery will need to be replaced after 7-8 years, and it will costs 60-70% of the total cost of the car. Just like the battery in phone or laptop etc. EV battery also needs to be replaced.
Ek aur parameter yeh hai ki 5 saal k bad resale value Petrol & Petrol+CNG ki achi khasi mil sakti hai. Q ki Tata, Maruti Toyota ki Petrol and Petrol+CNG gadiya aaram se 2-2.5 lakh kms chal jati hai. Whereas EV ki life cycle jo company warranty de rahi hai wo 1,60,000 kms or 8 years. Uske baad uss EV Batteries drain zyada hone lagegi uss wajah se resale value bahot kam ayegi. For Eg. Humare Mobile Phones (jisme bhi Lithium Ion Batteries Hoti Hai)
Range anxiety won't matter if the drive is restricted to under 160-170kms. I bought Tiago ev, for my wife. We restrict the usage to drive to her office & back only. That's 66kms to & fro a day. We're extrmly happy. For outstation, we have a petrol car, whose monthly driving is not more than 500-600kms. Tiago is a daily driver. Also, whenever a company CLAIMS a specific range, always minus 100kms off it. The range will never be as company claims.
Cng filling station has a long que of minimum 1 hrs Suppose most bought EV and charging times are minimum 1 hr add que waiting to that multiples hr to no. of cars
I feel battery replacement cost v add hona chahiye. + Once EV is popular and atleast 30% of global market, oil prices will be stable or be competitive with battery prices
You forgot to take into account one thing battery life in an EV is 5-8 years so considering you purchased a car for longer period and after 8 years the battery needs to be replaced, the cost of battery would be 3,00,000. Now the ownership cost of petrol & EV are almost similar
Replacement of Battery after 7-8 years will cost a huge sum.....being from a middle class family one has to take loan to replace the battery because it costs around 40-45% of the vehicle cost
Good work but one major point not considered, What will be cost when there is situation when whole battery have to be replaced after certain time. Max life of battery should be considered.
Depreciation of vehicle, And approximate selling cost at the end of X years Inn ko bhi please consider kariyega next videos mein. Because from what i understand, given the apprehension, and especially if the battery pack is not insured/under warranty cover, the cost drops dramatically for a used EV after 8 years.
The increase in petrol rate might be not possible..as the more people buy EV cars, the petroleum selling countries will decrease the price of petrol and diesel to boost use of fuel cars…so we have to consider that point also…
Sir I will invest the difference of car-cost in financial instruments like MF or FD and enjoy compounding…as of now my vote goes to Petrol or hybrid cars
BIG FACTOR missed is the Range of the car is inversely proportional to the weight. More the number of passengers further decreases the range & we in India tend to move in full on packed up cars most times. So that Range is still a mystery. Forget 4 people generally we pack 5-6 people even in a small car.
true dat
EVs Already have so much weight and are heaviest in segment compared to conventional cars , only battery of some EVs weight more than whole tata nano car , weight of passengers is negligible compared to car - more passengers don't reduce range much the factor for range in EVs is aerodynamics
weight factor is cancelled out because milage also decreases with increased weight in fossil fuel cars.
The most comman factor of insurance renewal is also not considered which will be different for a ev cause the battery is expensive element
Petrol ki bhi mileage km hogi
Resale Value is one of the critical factors which also needs to be considered
250 claimed range, would turn out in real world range of 125-130 kms only.
So the viable option of EV Tiago is the long range version, which would return around 200 kms and that base versions would be around Rs 11 lacs. So in that way 3 years turn to somewhere around 5 year for recovering money invested
Ev performance is much better and comfortable and should compare only with the badly performing Amt of Tiago which is more expensive…
One big factor missing here is that the initial cost that you pay for a car is mostly through a car loan. The interest amount would be higher if the initial cost is high and vice versa, For an EV car you pay higher interest for the initial amount and for an ICE car, the amount gets adjusted in petrol/CNG but interest free.
But you can claim rebate on interest paid towards electric car while filing return under separate head
EV also have two more issues. Currently many state govt and central govt are giving subsidy on purchase of EV or waiving off RTO charges as you said. But it might not always be true in future as well. Furthermore there is another major factor, replacement of battery after 10 years or so. Which could be as much as 40-50% total cost of car. This needs to be accounted for in long term running cost. Then there are other unknown factors such as resale value, easy availability of service centers and mechanics etc.
No one cars atleast not on tata they just forgive RTO fees that's it
After 10 yrs battery will cost roughly half of what it does now (atleast) 30% of cost of ev is battery currently so 3 lakh for the battery pack(on pack level 200$/kw is standard currently) 19*2=3400$ = 3 lakh max. It will half atleast so add 1.5 lpa. You r old battery can be used as second life like inverters so will fetch 20k on exchange. 1.3 lakh so need not worry about battery change
After 10 Years Battery Cost Won't Be Same As Now It Will Be Much Cheaper
@@bondnikunj and after battery change good for next 15 year, becoz in 10 year battery tech will improve and they last long, what is the cost of maintenance of petrol engine after 1.2 lakh and 10 year. So that it can last for next 15 year, longivety of ev vichele is also a point worth considering, government is planning ev registration for 20 to 25 year, this calculation will become more intense if running is 1500 km per month,
Battery k cast baad me aid kro
One major factor is missing. Tiago EV is far superior to drive. Easy and super smooth, with premium look and features. After driving the EV, you will not feel like driving the petrol or cng tiago at all. The engine and gearbox were the major weaknesses in tiago anyway.
The only thing to check is your real range requirement. tiago LR will be 180-190km and tiago MR will be about 150km range in real life. If you think about it, it is approx the same range as you get in one refill of CNG! without the hassle of waiting in lines of taxis at a cng filling station. Because you can easily charge at home.
As long as you have a 16Amp plug near the parking spot at home, charging the tiago is easier than even filling up petrol. It takes less than half a minute to plug in. But if you don't have home/office charging possible, I will say don't buy an EV yet.
EVs are great option as a secondary vehicle and Tiago seems cost effective option. You need to compare Petrol automatic option with EV in the same variant. In fact Tiago EV will reimburse the EMIs back if you have a daily running of 100kms X 25 days a month
The biggest disadvantage of EV at present is 'Range'
At present it is only applicable for cities.
Not every person can afford to keep 2 cars.
However, if you already have a car and planning on a 2nd, EV makes so much sense.
Nope .. it's battery replacement cost once its out of warranty.
There cannot be a second hand market for EV. Battery degradation is major factor
@@karakcoffee5493 What will be the battery replacement cost ?
I think as EVs will start to sell, the second market will also develop.
@@abhishekgupta1066 currently average battery replacement cost is 5lakh after warranty and god forbidden during warranty something happens to the battery which is not covered within the warranty agreement, u can imagine the disaster. With more ev demand price if both ev cars and battery are not gona come down they are gona blow up. They are unnecessarily selling ev car costlier already. Its just corporate pulling out money form this ev craze. The battery degrades over time. After five years there would be no battery health left with no good range ev car coud go. So 2bd hand owner would have to spend freaking 5 lakhs just for battery change apart from the cost of the car it self. This is pure madness. M sorry m not gona buy a ev. A petrol car or cng which i can use for 8 years and change 👍🏻 or keep it till 15 years.
@@karakcoffee5493 5 Lakh?? for battery replacement?
hard to believe but if true then certainly running EV for long term isn't cheap by any means.
@@abhishekgupta1066 see thats the problem i M talking about. Every body is talking about buying ev and how cheap ev running cost is but no fucking body, i mean no youtuber no moto channel is taking about battery cost after warranty. Its like these corporates don't want us common people to know the truth. And the want to earn extra margin by just selling ev costlier that other cars bcoz there is a craze in buying ev right no and these corporates are fucking banking on this. I am telling you ev cars are a big scam. Thats why even in USA ev dint work. Think about why fucking japan with 0 electrical cuts never invested in EV car. They are making hybrid but not 100% ev.
Xz plus and XE are not same
You should take XE models of all variants and then compare
You are increasing the base cost of petrol which itself takes the calculation out of practicality
Also if you have to go outstation you may have to hire car which is again additional cost.
You have also forgot resale factor of the car as resale for electric car is close to zero in year 7 onwards and for petrol you will secure at least 1.5 to 2 lacs for models chosen by you
Aage zake petrol car ki resell value bhi zero ke aaspas hi aane vali he, EV ke time me.
@@askyrom5316 May be that is true however that is a prediction here the video is talking on facts and numbers and today’s reality is >80% people are buying EV as secondary car so petrol cars will have resale value due to sheer practicality
@@MayurMahindrakar007
1. petrol cars will be capped to 10 yrs of life by 2026 approximately.
2.Evs currently don t have resale value as it s a new technology and developing one. So the resale point for a usage of 7 years is currently invalid. Also Tata gives a 8 years warranty on battery and motor . So the battery will be degraded by 40% by the age of 10-12 years since only damaged cells have to be replaced.
3.Tata tiago is a city based car and not a outstation type car. For outstation type car in electric it is Tata nexon ev max or byd cars currently. In my opinion people who travel within the city should eye an ev and people who regularly travel outstation currently should go with IC vehicle. But for city based car ev is best. And not all people go for outstation . Buying ev or petrol is not a generic decision but rather based on your personal car usage style ki aap ek baar mein kitna runn lete ho car ka
@@Estrogroup on the first part of your answer
These are predictions no one as of today can predict will it be by 2026 or by 2030 or by 2035 so when you are doing calculations you have to consider facts
If we have to keep predictions only here are a few
1. When we moved from petrol to CNG the prices rose faster than of petrol so it may happen for electricity as well
Around the city commuters specially people who go with Tiago (i am stating the first time car buyers) normally have very low running like only weekends type
I have like more than 30% population where I live use cars very less and those are city commuters
The ones who are heavy users normally go for diesel and are mostly highway runners so the break even in terms of kms might be true however in terms of time it is too long and that is the reason i picked up resale and battery replacement points
Anyways even in current comparison he picked XZ plus of petrol and XE of EV so initial cost difference is higher and the break even in terms of kms will be higher as the initial cost difference is even higher plus when talking finances you have to consider the opportunity loss as well because saving 3 lacs up front and investing them will again get you higher returns
As you said it is case to case basis and depending on individuals requirements however i found many irregularities in the comparison he presented
@@MayurMahindrakar007 definitely putting all the money upfront isn t a good idea at all in case of personal car . I said on the interest part because in India people buy cars on loan so if u have are getting loan on a car and you get refund of all interest so it is beneficial right. Plus the point you said that invest the amount and earn interest or dividend. That goes without saying.
So eg tiago cost 9 lac i make a downpayment of 2 lac and further in 3 yrs i make emi payment of 2 lac per year so at the end of 4th year on 100,000 balance the interest which i have to pay for the car is just 7500-8000. So tototal cost of car excluding all service nd charging is 9,08000 to be paid over a period of 4 years. This sounds a good deal. And I agree with you on the first time car buyers point.
If you are wondering why is 3 years interest not accounted so the reason is the person gets income tax deduction of the interest paid on finance of electric vehicle for 3 years from the purchase.
You should continue ownership calculation till 7-10 years(Battery replacement in EV will be a good cost) I think you have done this in your other videos.
Since EVs are auto-transmission... comparing it with the similar variants would be more appropriate... and I am pretty sure that the difference will be even bigger...
Being a Current Tata Tiago owner on petrol it gives 10 to 12 in city and max 17 on highway on other hand cng gives 17 to 20 in city like mumbai and recently done trip to goa where it gave above 30 milage on average speed of 80 to 100.
Same....10-12 city.....17.5 max on highway
And in cng in city 20 ...and on highway full tank approx 200-205 km ...
Vvvv excellent explanation v practical. Just 1 point to add for those who buy ev through finance first 3 years interest free since Income tax benefit . So assuming 8% interest rate so Rs184000-190000 additional savings and compared to a petrol or cng car. Tata Tiago is a city based car. Nexon ev max is as you wish
Main thing to consider is battery replacement cost after 1.5 lakh km or 8 years which is the warranty period of tisgo ev.
But still if ur running is in city like 100 kms per day , best choice is ev. Thats why most people doing delhi noida or delhi gurgaon per day are buying nexon ev as it is dirt cheap.
8 saal baad battery puri nhi chali jayegi. 80 percent capacity retained rahegi. 😑 . aur battery ki life car ki life se bhi zyada hoti hai .25-30 years saal baad bhi 50 percent capacity bachegi.
@@visheshsaxena2179 80% to nahi bhai phir bhe 30 to 40%
8 saal baad kharab nhi hogi 8 years is warranty so on heavy usage as you think the estimation of 40% of battery to be replace(assuming on higher side) after 10-12 years
@@Estrogroup bhai uske bad bhe battery ka cost lakhs me raheta
@@AzamAli-ce7tt if its 40% of cells so it will cost near about 2 lakhs for a 10 kw battery
Nicely done practical analysis... 👍 I think including hybrid cars in the analysis would be more interesting...
Most viable option in today's date is to keep an EV for city usage and petrol for longer distance covering 🙏
Which would almost double the expense of car ownership
that will do but it makes most sense small ev for city traffic jam any time.better than big big suv in city traffic
Battery replacement cost after 5 years and resale value also plays major role in this calculations.
If you take into account battery replacement cost, EV will become costlier. Also, EV has zero resale value.
Add these two factors and then do the calculation.
If "Brand Name" is not your priority & you need good comfort , space, storage, then consider Citroen C3, the most value for money model from French company, having 3 cylinder 1200 cc engine & price starting from 6.20 lakhs ( on road ).
Yes but who knows the resale value of petrol cars after 5 years. Demand for petrol cars may reduce till then due to new advances in electric cars.
@@GameOfLifeUA Sir, you can use citron C3 for 15 years.
Battery replacement after 5 years will be free
@@sunilnathani3924 citron tumko commission de raha hai kya ???
Now... Your channel name worth.... I don't miss your video's... Because fun to watch with knowledge.. love you brother 💞
Great analysis towards buying, however you didn't consider resale value for the car, also to add over the years the charging capacity of the battery won't be sane so maybe first year would give you 150kms on full charge, but later it will go down further to maybe 120kms or so
8 years baad battery change karne ki cost 3 lakh aayegi isko kon add karega 😂😂😂
I think there is one factor u need to add to ev that battery depletion of around 5 % per year means ur range will decrease by 7.5km per year u will lose 40km range end of 5 yr, if ur vehicle will be parked in extreme hot condition depletion of batteries will be fast u might need to replace batteries before estimated time even tho ur vehicle in warranty they will charge u for batteries , i think u must wait for flexfuel engine cars
Bhai flex fuel use karne ke liye engine me bhe changes karna padenga agar vaise flex fuel directly present vehicle me use kare to engine damage hota
@@AzamAli-ce7tt an engine need to be replace after 15 years and you can even take to 20 years. Not with battery. Engines costs less than battery. Engine parts are cheap and easy to replace
There is no major EV on sale today that has battery degradation of 5% per year. None!
Modern LFP batteries or NMC+liquid cooled pack have hardly 0.5% degradation per year. It can be less if car is home charged and not DC fast charged. Home charging is also much cheaper.
In models with poor BMS or tier2 cell chemistry it can be more, but still hardly 1% per year.
Battery degradation is 5% per year... Definitely not. It's 5-10 % per lakh km..
It would have been better, if you compared XT variant of all the models which has almost similar features.
I'm not sure if anyone noticed but service costs of EV was 20,000 but in final calculations its showing as 16000. Just a small video, very helpful video !!
Is their four wheeler with cng & electric , as it makes sense for avoiding critical issues
good analysis. you can code a calculator with the numbers as variables so that anyone can put their own numbers and get a result which one is better.
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Bro, Legit a very nice and informative video. Good work. Keep it up.
Great Analysis 😃... Gotta appreciate your efforts to burst the myths about EVs
I think after 3 or 4 year EV would be a better option and there should be more charging station would have been installed...Right now i think CNG is better option as per availability. By the way plz consider insurance cost per year. Nice compare
Till then promote EV and make people buy EV more n more 🙏😂
You know what I mean😜
Same thinking was there for cng before 3 years. No availability of gas stations. But now, we know. CNG price was around 54 but now, it's 90
I couldn't ask for a better analysis than this. Thank you!
Resale value not considered. Would you buy 2nd hand ev?
Ev battery depletion also not considered.
Also, the costs you have taken for the petrol and CNG are manual variants but EV is automatic variant.. and transmisson plays a big role in cost..
If you increase the km per month, CNG would come out as best option. Its more cost effective then petrol and provide decent fuelling network coverage which is going to increase in future.
You need to watch more EV video as now a days there are fast chargers in tier 3 cities as well.
There are videos made where people have driven and reached hill tops as well also you forgot to mention about the regen part then again the main benifit of EV is that the ammount of POWER you get as its a motor there is an excellent POWER and yes EV is fully Automatic WITHOUT ANY LAG so if someone wants a tiny car with the performance of Mercedes you can get it
See every coin has two sides but as of now EV side is beneficial
Factors not considered :Battery range decreases after getting old. Also consider future options of using more ethanol in petrol car and flex fuel kits will be available in coming years for old petrol cars.
Exactly after 8 year of warranty it may require change of battery pack.. Which may cost around ₹ 6 to 7 lakh.. I guess
@@sachiny9722 6-7 lakh is what it costs now. The cost will definitely drop after a decade.
@@sayanbose4931 hope so.. But as per the info available on internet.. Currently we(India) are importing the Li Ion batteries.. The cost may come down when the manufacturing starts here... I guess the difference in cost of batteries may be similar in proportion to that of difference in cost of made in India iPhone and imported ones... moreover we(India) have very limited reserves of Li.. In future also we may need to import Li from China ... Fuel cell could be the answer... but it itself is very expensive.. I sincerely hope someday soon we will be able to drive inexpensive ... tail pipe pollution free vehicles... :)
Also resale value kya hoga? Ev kabad me bechana padega
EVs have a long way to go not only with range and charging stations but also the maintenance and features. Whereas petrol cars are reliable and at their best right now. Initial price will be less for petrol car but exchange with EV when it becomes travel proof. The price difference is huge but convenience is also better.
Good analysis, one more thing for EV: after warranty period when battery replaced will cost very high amount which is not compare with any stage of petrol or CNG cars. one more thing EV efficiency will also be down over the years...
Cost of battery replacement must be considered. It is a huge setback for EVs
Exactly, replacement will make it basically cost equal to petrol.
EV is always better, may be it's in developing phase, but perks this varient have, no other can have that much spirit👍🏻 ultimately it's up to us, whom we gonna see in future, also look at larger perspective in terms of climate change, thank you
Climate change in india 70 precent electricitiy comes from coal, that which cause much more pollution than petrol and diesel
One point you have missed. If you are considering ev for 4yrs I feel ev charging stations availability will increase rapidly. I am seriously now thinking of Tiago ev. Currently I spent almost 10k on diesel hatchback. The money saved can be adjusted against emi if I take any loan. And after 4-5yrs loan will be closed.
One factor which we should consider in electric cars is the life of battery and performance dip of battery over years.
Rest, very nice and elaborated comparision.
Battery technology in 5 year will definitely change , faster charging like petrol filling time in near future. Price also will be competitive - so replacement at the end of 8 to 10 years will be cheaper. So better opt for EV and enjoy smooth riding. Initially in city is better and once infra is developed one can venture long distance.
Battery will go so costly in future
Can we also consider the resale values at end of 5 years and battery replacement costs if any for EVs .. ?
5-6 years me Ev new battery ka bhi kharcha aayega na
@@hareshpatel1311. Not really, tata's lfp batteries are rated for 3000 charge cycles for battery to degrade to 80% of its original capacity. LR version has a claimed range of 315km, so we can get around 250km range in real life, So the car can do 750,000kms before the battery degradation is noticeable, yet the car will still be usable.
If we consider a owner charges his car twice a week. It will take 28yrs for the battery to degrade to 80%
I don't understand how people considered ev batteries only last max 5 yrs, This isn't a low cycle rated lithium ion battery. Some people even consider that battery should be changed after 80k kms, That was a rare case where battery failed, and whole battery was replaced free of cost as these evs come with 1,60,000 kms or 8yrs of warranty. So again, battery replacement cost every 5yrs is straight up cap.
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Not a primary car can be your EV, but for secondary purpose - travelling only in your city, EV will be a great choice.
Only if you are planning for a second one without selling the first one - petrol/cng.
Good analysis. I have been also quite keen on an EV car; but what discouraged me from booking the seemingly attractive deal for a Tiago EV is the cost of battery after warranty is over. Battery swapping for EV car could be a remedy; but then it's an expensive,nascent technique which has recently begun in a very few spots in San Francisco. So until EV batteries become really cheap & affordable or swapable or thecost of EV car comes down to be at par with fossil fuel cars;
it would be wise to continue with the same & spend on fuel which one would have to sped on the extra cost of an EV car; which is atleast double the cost of a fuel car.
What about pollution???
Most of Tata car traction batteries are designed to run over 8 years with about 80 to 90 percent capacity still retained. Better batteries with 95 to 98 percent capacity left do exist, but those are more expensive. It truly depends on how much driving requirements you will have after 9 or 10 years....the battery will generally outlast the car imo
Major Consideration
1. Cost of Battery if u r owning full r 5 Years
2. Time To fuel your vehicle (Time is more precious than money)
3. Resale Value after 5 years
After considering these factor factors Petrol or Diesel os best at present as per my consideration
Health (clean environment) is more important than time.
@@rashmi6182 EV is not environment friendly in anyway.
@@ananddixit995 yes u r right, धरती पर उपलब्ध प्राकृतिक संसाधन हमारी जरूरत पूरी करने के लिए हैं, लालच की पूर्ति के लिए नहीं, travelling in private vehicles are comfortable, easy & cozy but it will eat planet Earth a little Early.
@@rashmi6182 maximum pollution is done by industries and not by your car.
@@sanky1211 u r right, and industries makes car, (tyre, seal belt, pvc, leather, lamp, led, brake, touch screen, mirror, wiper, seat cover, perfume, engine value, battery, and 200 other parts.) crued oil refinement to get petrol and diesel, then transport it to all over india
Well done bro quite helpful
Amazing video 💯
On 10th October i bought Ampere Magnus Ex at ₹99500 really impressed with it build quality range everything is Good
You have missed to consider the battery degradation cost which would in turn decrease the range, every lithium battery would show up quite a good decrease in performance after 3-4 years. Which would mean that you would end up burning more electricity for charging your vehicle. Also the battery warranty for EVs have certain T&C which has to be considered, they clearly mention certain % of degradation in capacity which won’t be covered under warranty of so and so years
EV batteries will last 20 years. whoever told you that battery degradation is that much in 5 years, lied to you
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Total ownership cost is always for complete life of vehicle.....and game changes after warranty period where you need to add cost of replacing battery. Also please consider cost of charging outside home. Especially with fast charging
Consider the range after 5yrs and resale value of EV , Scenario changes alot here
One important calculation is the amount of interest you can earn on the money you don't have to pay upfront with a petrol car.
Assuming you pay 2.5 lacs extra for an EV, you can earn approx 1 lac interest on that money in 4 years at an interest rate of 8% per annum compounded annually.
Kaha milta hai 8 % ka interest
Bro it's not 2.5 lakh rs . Government also gives subsidy
@@aradhyad73 micro finance banks main aur mutual funds main
Few more points.
1. Range anxiety
2. Less charging station
3. Cost at charging station ( sometime it's upto 50-100 rs per unit )
4. Value of your time. ( Consider if someone need to travel 500km then avg 100kmph ke hisab se petrol me it will take 5 hrs + 10 mins Max for refueling. In case of ev it's 5hrs + 15 hrs additional for charging) for city driving it makes sense but for highway or long drive still petrol rocks
By the way if you turn on AC or do up hill driving then expect less range.
And don't forget the cost for battery replacement which may happen at 3rd or 4th year mostly.
Are you crazy ?
Ev batteries will outlast the car itself
The battery will be working even after 3 lakh kms
Why do you think car companies give an 8 year warranty or 1.6 lakh kms
See EV batteries in europe and how long they last
@@malayshah7467 Hye Bro , time will tell that but if I ignore that as well then also the math towards 500-600 Km drive will remain same. Now its upto you if you want to save the time or money.
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Battery replacement cost after 7-8 years will offset most of the benefit, moreover price diffrence between cng and Ev means interest earned on the price diffrence will also impact the calculations.
Still nobody talks about it
The major flaw with EV is the range, time taken to top up the battery, and resale value of the vehicle. Tiago has a 35L fuel tank, so with 17KMPL average, it comes to around 595 KM range. The time take to refill the tank with petrol say it might take 3-4 minutes and you are off again, but for an EV it can be anywhere between 2hrs to 10hrs depending on what type of charger you have hooked up your car to. Short trips like to the grocery store or picking up the kids from school this would be fine, but as your main car, your daily driver EVs are unreliable. Just this scenario, you live in an appartment complex, you came home from work, you plug in your car in the wall charger, take the lift to go home, few minutes later a group of kids are playing hide and seek, one of the kids trip over the wire or moves the charging cable ever so slightly knowingly or unknowingly, your car stops charging now. Next day, you wake up as per schedule, get ready for work, walk down to the car, unplug the car and get into it only to find a suprise, the car did not charge the whole night. Good luck explaining to your boss as to why you are late for work. If this was a petrol or diesel car, you just make a quick 3-4 minute pit stop at a petrol bunk fill up the car with fuel and keep on going with your life on time.
Trip over the cable and EV stops charging 🤣🤣, its not your phone/laptop cable, after you start charging EV it locks the cable in place and even if you try to pull the cable by force it will not budge at all, I wonder if you have ever seen EV charger
Assume that you drive 300 km without charging and straight what is wrong with waiting for 1 hour .
trip over a cable ?🤣🤣
lmao this guy has imagination. just because it's possible, doesn't mean it will happen
also, you are ignoring that all apartments are investing in providing proper charging points at parking spaces
costs them ₹800 to install basic 16A point at parking slot
I hate the fact that people haven't studied about it or haven't even experienced somthing and they say that its useless not worthy and just assume things
It has a different and an safely approach towards charging they have thought alot even the chargers are rain proof
Trip over cable is not a even a issue, just add fencing in ev parking lot if you are so scared of kids
It depends on the usage...for example........
1) Monthly 1000 km Running, best way to go with petrol
2) Monthly 2000 km Running, best way to go with CNG
3) Monthly 3000 km Running, best way to go with EV.....
As your Calculation Running cost Petrol Perkm/Rs.5.50
CNG Perkm/Rs.3.50
EV Perkm/Rs.1.25
Please consider these two variables as well:
1. Resale value after 5 years
2. Instead paying the 1-2L extra upfront, what if that amount invested in Stocks or other places,
3. Fast charging rates are not 10rs
4. Cost for Time wasted during charging ev
Nice description 👍
My yearly runing is 25000
Petrol scooty price after
3 year -75000×1.6=120000rs
Total 85k+120k- 205k rscost
And ola S1 (i get only 75km of range in 25rs) so 1/3×75000=25000
Total 112k+ 25k=137k
Money save in 3 year -68000rs
And after 4 year it will-90000rs
And ola s1 battery life
1200cycle×80km - 96000km
96000km life is good for 4 year
Very accurate data.
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Friend few comments you can consider
1) The model version you compared is not the same, you consider the petrol and CNG manual version.EV is
By default automatic version that to of great quality better than CVT and DCT, Tiago you get AMT which is Desi Jugaad. It doesnt come with CVT or DCT.
2) Most of the people buy car on finance so for EV you will spend more on Interest compared to petrol and CNG.
3) on EV car loan you get income tax benefit under section 80 EEB
4)EV cars are like smart phones with their battery capacity gradually decreasing over time and you get less mileage and increase the headache of charging it frequently. The company doesn't say it but its inherent problem of battery.
5) EV cars charging cost will be different if charged at home vs some commercial fast charging station vs free fast charging station at the office if you have one.
Few points to consider for comparisons.
Also the difference in amount petrol and ev can be kept in stocks
Fully satisfied. Thank you so much
You didn't talk about how after 5 years petrol car can be sold very easily in the second hand car market whereas the the battery of an EV depletes and it will lose its value substantially.
Not many will buy a second hand petrol car after 5 years. The factor of environment will be a game changer. Within 5 years, to control pollution, govts and companies will push EVs. As such petrol is a limited commodity- It won't last forever
Ev ke benefits to hai... Abhi india me initial stage me hai isliye hum bahut jada soch rahe hai... Jab demand increase hoga to mass production hoga jisse products ke cost me fark padega... R&D me investment hoga new technologies introduce hongi products ko cheaper karne ke liye.. batteries ke technology me bhi aage sudhar hoga range aur achhi hongi... Environment me thoda behtari hoga.. import bills me kami aayegi.. oil pe dependency kam hogi.. dhire dhire infrastructure develop hoga jaise charging station ke availability har jagah install honge... Tourism sectors wale bhi participate karenge charging facility available karwane me.. sare hill station, tourist places me pahle focus rahega. Car to nahi lekin main scooty use kar raha hu electric aur main bahut satisfied hu. Next car meri pakka ev hi hogi.
Nice practical analysis. Ev cars would still need to wait if it is your primary car. Charging infra is not yet ready in many parts of the country.
Its not only about cost effectivemess following factors also very important 1)EV should have atleast 500km range.
2) fast charging and infra should be available
3) how about battery's life 8..10.. years. Cost of battery.
The big factor you ignored is practicality. Most Indian keep only one car at a time for city highway and trips. EV doesn’t fulfilling all those conditions at least this point of time. Period!
very good analysis
Most important both are different variants
If you compare xz plus in electric car with petrol and cng then it will not save money instead it will cost you more
Petrol engin willl last lakhs of km while battery will age and cost lakhs
1 you need to take automatic varients cost for cng which is not available cuz ev is automatic
2 you need to take the xt varient of ev which has comparable features that cost 10l
3 you took service cost of petrol car for 5 years 16k. It would at least be 25k
4 the power and torque we get in ev is much more than petrol or cng
5 for ev car you will need a closed parking with switches and chargers installed
Amazing clarification
Very valuable information
Insurance cost bhool gaye aap jodna cost of ownership me + tyres too . just go on the highways & see the number of chargers available . Especially in Maharashtra, Gujrat, Karnataka, Goa , AP , MP . Lots of chargers available on approximately 20-30 km range
Bhai, also consider the resale value of the EV car, since battery life is just max 5-6 yrs. Also the higher cost of ownership at the start, the owner can invest the money in any of the equity mutual funds to earn 12% per annum additional return for 5 yrs. Apart from that the concept of go-green in India, we are producing close to 70% of our electricity via thermal which is already creating pollution, also another twist which every common man don't aware is the emission for production the LITHIUM ION batteries is almost the same which a petrol car produces in its 5 yrs life span. So we must focus on EV only when it is coming with some really go green technology
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The battery range decreases over time. EV battery will need to be replaced after 7-8 years, and it will costs 60-70% of the total cost of the car. Just like the battery in phone or laptop etc. EV battery also needs to be replaced.
Good Comparison. You should have include the cost of cab bec EV is still has big question mark due to charging station unavailability and Range.
What if you need or have to change the batteries after 5-6 yr of usage then what wll be the experience for that?
In j &k bijli is 2.75 per unit. But but but due to tough tarrains and jungle areas it is too risky to go on long routes in j&k.
Good information bhai
Great analysis
Ek aur parameter yeh hai ki 5 saal k bad resale value Petrol & Petrol+CNG ki achi khasi mil sakti hai. Q ki Tata, Maruti Toyota ki Petrol and Petrol+CNG gadiya aaram se 2-2.5 lakh kms chal jati hai.
Whereas EV ki life cycle jo company warranty de rahi hai wo 1,60,000 kms or 8 years. Uske baad uss EV Batteries drain zyada hone lagegi uss wajah se resale value bahot kam ayegi.
For Eg. Humare Mobile Phones (jisme bhi Lithium Ion Batteries Hoti Hai)
When to change batteries of ev and what is the cost of replacing.
Range anxiety won't matter if the drive is restricted to under 160-170kms. I bought Tiago ev, for my wife. We restrict the usage to drive to her office & back only. That's 66kms to & fro a day. We're extrmly happy. For outstation, we have a petrol car, whose monthly driving is not more than 500-600kms. Tiago is a daily driver. Also, whenever a company CLAIMS a specific range, always minus 100kms off it. The range will never be as company claims.
Cng filling station has a long que of minimum 1 hrs
Suppose most bought EV and charging times are minimum 1 hr add que waiting to that multiples hr to no. of cars
Good Analysis. But the price difference between petrol, cng and EV version is more in other cars.
I feel battery replacement cost v add hona chahiye. + Once EV is popular and atleast 30% of global market, oil prices will be stable or be competitive with battery prices
Good Explanation
You forgot to take into account one thing battery life in an EV is 5-8 years so considering you purchased a car for longer period and after 8 years the battery needs to be replaced, the cost of battery would be 3,00,000.
Now the ownership cost of petrol & EV are almost similar
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Replacement of Battery after 7-8 years will cost a huge sum.....being from a middle class family one has to take loan to replace the battery because it costs around 40-45% of the vehicle cost
Good work but one major point not considered, What will be cost when there is situation when whole battery have to be replaced after certain time. Max life of battery should be considered.
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Depreciation of vehicle,
And approximate selling cost at the end of X years
Inn ko bhi please consider kariyega next videos mein.
Because from what i understand, given the apprehension, and especially if the battery pack is not insured/under warranty cover, the cost drops dramatically for a used EV after 8 years.
The increase in petrol rate might be not possible..as the more people buy EV cars, the petroleum selling countries will decrease the price of petrol and diesel to boost use of fuel cars…so we have to consider that point also…
Sir I will invest the difference of car-cost in financial instruments like MF or FD and enjoy compounding…as of now my vote goes to Petrol or hybrid cars
Resale value of EV could be scary, so better go with CNG+ Petrol where we have both options