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    Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) sensors offer numerous benefits to tuners, not the least one of them being the ability to monitor, tune and even set up engine protection strategies on individual cylinders. But there is much more to EGTs than that - luckily Tuning Fork is here to educate us all.
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:35 - What is an EGT sensor?
    01:09 - What is a K-type thermocouple
    03:00 - Open tip or Closed tip?
    05:18 - How and where to install your EGT sensors
    07:30 - What are they good for?
    11:15 - Configuring EGTs in NSP
    15:20 - Using EGTs for Engine Protection
    17:53 - Live Demo
    20:00 - Snap Quiz!
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  • @TheCarbastard
    @TheCarbastard 3 роки тому +46

    This video is longer than the older Technically Speaking ones I'm used to and Scott seems to be having much more fun, EXCELLENT! Keep them coming guys!

  • @Dagowly83
    @Dagowly83 3 роки тому +19

    Ignition pack/coil on cylinder 2 :D

  • @travisthetreetrimmer
    @travisthetreetrimmer Рік тому

    Thankyou for helping me see them as useful and not just engineered problems.

  • @haltech
    @haltech  3 роки тому +8

    Congratulations to our winners, well done! The correct answer to Scott's question is - ignition coil on cylinder No.2.
    Full range of our 35th Anniversary merch: www.haltech.com/celebrating-35-years-of-awesome/
    Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) sensors offer numerous benefits to tuners, not the least one of them being the ability to monitor, tune and even set up engine protection strategies on individual cylinders. But there is much more to EGTs than that - luckily Tuning Fork is here to educate us all.
    Shortcuts:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:35 - What is an EGT sensor?
    01:09 - What is a K-type thermocouple
    03:00 - Open tip or Closed tip?
    05:18 - How and where to install your EGT sensors
    07:30 - What are they good for?
    11:15 - Configuring EGTs in NSP
    15:20 - Using EGTs for Engine Protection
    17:53 - Live Demo
    20:00 - Snap Quiz!

  • @wazza33racer
    @wazza33racer 2 роки тому +2

    When engineers were testing the 250,000hp nuclear scramjet engine for Project Pluto, there was no temperature sensor known that could measure the exhaust temperature, instead during testing of the full size engine, they designed a calibrated optical system to gauge the temperature, to determine how well the internals of the engine reacted to full power for 20 minutes. Pluto was an armored cruise missile, the size of a locomotive that flew at Mach 3.5, at tree top height, and its shock wave would have killed people on the ground.

  • @nzbarbers3868
    @nzbarbers3868 2 роки тому +2

    Man I love the way you explain it amazing

  • @BurpleRX7
    @BurpleRX7 3 роки тому +3

    Cool video, was contemplating egt on my 7, will wait until the next time I have to pull the manifold, and yeah you unplugged the coil pack

  • @santiagoestevez623
    @santiagoestevez623 3 роки тому +1

    Unplug the ignition coil on the cyl 2, love ur videos Scotty!

  • @mattsmith2739
    @mattsmith2739 2 роки тому +1

    you sure know your egt's well done

  • @davidweber1126
    @davidweber1126 11 місяців тому

    Great video. Most helpful mate! Thanks

  • @tiredlandk.5972
    @tiredlandk.5972 3 роки тому +1

    scotty is always a fun watch

  • @SloppyMechanics
    @SloppyMechanics 3 роки тому +49

    scotty, you ever wanna do a sloppy radio show with me?

    • @TurbineResearch
      @TurbineResearch 3 роки тому +4

      Yes! This needs to happen

    • @Bergermanifesto
      @Bergermanifesto 3 роки тому +2

      Yes

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 3 роки тому +2

      Do it.

    • @BigPermGarage
      @BigPermGarage 3 роки тому +2

      Now this would be great

    • @f1hotrod527
      @f1hotrod527 2 роки тому +1

      Haltech, Sloppy is a legend. We are talking strange, possibly troubling cult like following. It would be really cool to see some collaboration between Sloppy and Haltech on LS motor integration of your products.

  • @heavyweaponsguy21
    @heavyweaponsguy21 3 роки тому +1

    mmmm the purity of instrumentation. No lies, just data.

  • @rompdude
    @rompdude 3 роки тому +1

    The fact that you removed something do result in a temp drop on cylinder 2 means its likely the coil plug. But if you had not known the action that caused it, you could also think it was running rich. You could confirm this with the wideband as you have 2.

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad 3 роки тому +3

    They are a tuning tool like a knock sensors and O2 sensors. They help optimize tuning per cylinder if you delve into it that far.

    • @justarandomguy3969
      @justarandomguy3969 Рік тому

      O2 sensors are there to make sure the cat is working aka its for environmental reasons

    • @bogdy2p
      @bogdy2p Рік тому +1

      @@justarandomguy3969 you my friend , are SOOOOOO wrong... :)

    • @justarandomguy3969
      @justarandomguy3969 Рік тому

      @@bogdy2p hahah, go back to school XD

    • @bogdy2p
      @bogdy2p Рік тому +1

      @@justarandomguy3969 if you think that the O2 sensors are only for environmental reasons , it's pretty clear that you don't know anything about the stoichiometric ratio of fuels , and the advantages/disadvantages of running an engine too rich / too lean . Pretty sure that you should look into it .

    • @justarandomguy3969
      @justarandomguy3969 Рік тому

      @@bogdy2p i never said it was the only reason, but it is THE reason it was invented/put into cars. Its also the reason all modern cars have 2-3 of them instead of 1

  • @ShadyVectors
    @ShadyVectors 3 роки тому

    Can you guys do a video on open loop vs closed loop and how these interact on a stock engine? And vs how they operate on a tuned engine?

  • @OGAwsomSauce
    @OGAwsomSauce 3 роки тому

    Reconnected the O2 sensor taking the a/f ratio off the egt’s and putting them back on oxygen sensors or closed loop

  • @jalujalu5260
    @jalujalu5260 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome

  • @smithy2
    @smithy2 3 роки тому +1

    I need something like this at the moment to find the gremlin I have running around my engine

  • @5UPRAH
    @5UPRAH 3 роки тому +1

    Coil/ignition on cylinder 2!

  • @BjornFSE
    @BjornFSE 3 роки тому

    Question @Haltech; @16:27 in the example you give where you can turn off that cylinder #2 if the EGT goes above the set limit. Instead of turning off that cylinder can you in the ECU have the Fuel injector send additional fuel for added cooling of that particular cylinder??? & would this be more beneficial? I can theoretically see the benefit in this but just curious
    What went wrong? @20:47 The EGT 2 shows it's a lot cooler than the other cylinders and thus I'm going to say It got more fuel as a result of no spark which resulted in the cooler readings & the engine mist or poor running condition... ?

  • @Jase877
    @Jase877 3 роки тому

    Do you guys ever drywell test your setups to see if there in any difference between each ones?

  • @1stWorldProblemsSolved
    @1stWorldProblemsSolved 3 роки тому

    Cylinder 2 ignition coil was unplugged, agreed.

  • @tacozzz7983
    @tacozzz7983 2 роки тому +1

    What are your thoughts on using egt sensors on 2 stroke engines? Specifically a 1975 kawasaki h1 500 triple.

  • @hannahranga
    @hannahranga 3 роки тому

    Speaking about egt connectors, if you hate money you can get size 20 pins to suit deutsch or similar connectors. They're like $20 bucks a pin tho.

  • @PatrickLipsinic
    @PatrickLipsinic 2 роки тому

    I already have a TCA8 with my Elite 1500 for my 4 cyl egt's. If I get a thermocouple for oil temp. I know you can set it up to log it as oil temp. Can you set it up also for engine protection?

  • @torentmonkey
    @torentmonkey 3 роки тому +5

    Cyl 2 lost ignition, fuel or spark based. Damn Scotty, now I cant get an engine done without per cyl egt monitoring.

  • @boris9331
    @boris9331 9 місяців тому

    Is there a setting you can put in to detect sudden drop on one cylinder, so if the variance between all 6 is too far it will put the engine into protection mode, rather than only having a min or max value for engine protection.

  • @theothertoddg
    @theothertoddg 3 роки тому +1

    Unplugged the coil to #2

  • @kaizousha5531
    @kaizousha5531 3 роки тому +2

    I believe you unplugged the coil pack of plug lead on CL.2

  • @TIMTIM-xm5pr
    @TIMTIM-xm5pr 2 роки тому

    Which is the different on temp if i put the sensor in the turbo manifold?

  • @thetoranaking78
    @thetoranaking78 3 роки тому +1

    Unplugged the cylinder 2 ignition coil.

  • @trentmeyer23
    @trentmeyer23 Рік тому

    Can they be mounted on the underside of the runner, or do they need to be on the top?

  • @steveivins6373
    @steveivins6373 3 роки тому +1

    Number 2 coil on plug.

  • @eliasmelendez1271
    @eliasmelendez1271 3 роки тому

    On your software and hardware is it possible to run 4 o2 sensors and 4 egt sensors? I don't want my built f20b engine to blow up due to lean condition in cylinder #2 or #3. I want to control all 4 injectors plus also have vtec engaging

  • @gsr187t
    @gsr187t Рік тому

    can the bungs be added to the bottom of the runners instead of top?

  • @hambo6713
    @hambo6713 3 роки тому +2

    Video suggestion - Biggest dyno fails the Haltech team has ever seen. Thought of this while rewatching the G6E tuning series, when Scotty mentioned the idea of turning up to the dyno with flywheels / driveshafts / CVs improperly attached. There's gotta be a few good stories there

    • @haltech
      @haltech  3 роки тому +2

      We did something similar with the best/worst tuning practices, definitely a few good stories there: ua-cam.com/video/TaW7QbVBHZs/v-deo.html

    • @hambo6713
      @hambo6713 3 роки тому +2

      @@haltech Cheers :) Keep up the good work!!

  • @matthewpower7734
    @matthewpower7734 3 роки тому +1

    Unplugged coil pack no.2 cylinder

  • @kjsweeney81
    @kjsweeney81 3 роки тому +1

    Unplugged the coil pack on cylinder 2?

  • @rikupietila4241
    @rikupietila4241 3 роки тому +5

    Hello from Finland! You wanted to know what happened to your test engine? I am going to guess that you unplugged number 2 cylinder coilpack was unplugged and im basing my guess on that because your number 2 cylinder exhaust gas temp went down right away amd your short term fuel trim is trying to reduce the ammount of fuel.

  • @mizterjones
    @mizterjones 2 роки тому

    What’s the long term affects of not having them changed?

  • @heavyweaponsguy21
    @heavyweaponsguy21 3 роки тому

    Fun fact. The type N thermocouple was developed in Australia.

  • @Rmr2turbo
    @Rmr2turbo 3 роки тому +2

    No ignition cylinder # 2. Also notice the wideband was disconnected and connected back on.

  • @gsmecanica
    @gsmecanica 3 роки тому +1

    cylinder 2 coil plug

  • @Dammmmmmmn
    @Dammmmmmmn 3 роки тому +1

    How many k's would you usually get out of them?

  • @linkems
    @linkems 3 роки тому +5

    Good video, it looks like scott reached over to unplug the coil pack hence the drop in cylinder 2 egt. The wb barely ran leaner though, is this because the engine was at low load. Would it be much more obvious at higher engine loads?

    • @1977jelliott
      @1977jelliott 3 роки тому

      Unburnt fuel can displace oxygen in the exhaust and show a rich condition or a large volume of oxygen with no fuel can show a lean condition, depends on your misfire condition, you need to look at the total picture, not just what the 02 sensor is doing, to determine what is occuring.

  • @Arnarht
    @Arnarht 3 роки тому +1

    Ignition Coil on cylinder 2 unplugged.

  • @nightkids7163
    @nightkids7163 3 роки тому

    #2 injector, temperature didnt seem to drop fast enough for it to be a coil?

  • @davidsstfarrelltighe
    @davidsstfarrelltighe 3 роки тому

    Dude I work in a factory and these thermo couples are all over the place rarely do they give issues its usualy they get broken or wiring chafed thru so I can attest to the durability of these

  • @djtongi
    @djtongi 3 роки тому +1

    unplugged coil cyl 2 :)

  • @Ronaldo95163
    @Ronaldo95163 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 Ignition coil

  • @TheGinger1
    @TheGinger1 3 роки тому +1

    Why is there a difference in position between NA and boosted applications?

  • @Jays22b
    @Jays22b 3 роки тому

    i can say the 4 egt's i got on my sti is great. When i 2step my motor at high psi it has saved me and thrown limp mode at track. 920 degrees 2 cylinder's shutdown
    u pulled a injector . my egts are in by eye and under no load are 20 dregrees out, but under full load WOT there within 10degrees. that at the track

  • @simonoxenham5493
    @simonoxenham5493 3 роки тому

    Disconnected the spark on cylinder 2?

  • @damqik
    @damqik 3 роки тому +1

    Ignition on cylinder no 2

  • @trentmeyer23
    @trentmeyer23 Рік тому

    Can EGTs go on the underside of the runners, or is this a bad idea?

  • @lucianluci4552
    @lucianluci4552 3 роки тому +1

    You took out the 2 Egt sensor. Anyway, I don't think the T-shirt is available anymore. :)

  • @benmorris1076
    @benmorris1076 3 роки тому

    Removed cylinder 2 plug lead or injector connector

  • @america1723
    @america1723 2 роки тому +1

    Number 2 injector connector

  • @benw6088
    @benw6088 3 роки тому +1

    ignition coil unplugged in cyl 2

  • @benginetuner344
    @benginetuner344 3 роки тому +1

    Unplugged cylinder 2 coil

  • @ashwinloe303
    @ashwinloe303 Рік тому

    Unplugged cylinder 2 ignition coil

  • @endri15255
    @endri15255 2 роки тому

    hello,i have a 350 cdi stage 1,after stage 1 at high speed 175+ engine lose power and fault code is egt sensor bank 1 sesnor 1

  • @ElaKoko1
    @ElaKoko1 3 роки тому

    Coil on cylinder 2

  • @cdaiscool
    @cdaiscool 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like cyl 2 unplugged - temps dropped quick so fuel still spraying.

  • @rikimorton6951
    @rikimorton6951 Рік тому

    Are egt sensors good for tuning ?

  • @biggz_performance_fabricat1261
    @biggz_performance_fabricat1261 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 ignition coil unplugged

  • @foxsetup
    @foxsetup 3 роки тому +1

    coil on cylinder 2. The temps was going down. Let me think that fuel was getting out and cooling the sensor

  • @Igelkroete
    @Igelkroete 14 днів тому

    Can the EGT Controller also work with other tempsensors? For example with a bosch Kombisensor?

  • @charlescamen5225
    @charlescamen5225 Рік тому

    why is there a difference in performance of the depth of insertion of the EGT tip. what changes between naturally aspirated and turbo charged.

  • @glenwoolnough1499
    @glenwoolnough1499 Рік тому

    Hey mate my diesel egt's both read 80 degrees celcius when engine is cold, they do rise when engine is running. Im having issues with car . Is that normal?

  • @russelltreeby9130
    @russelltreeby9130 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 Ignition coil unplugged, Temp on Cyl2 dropped off showing no spark.

  • @deanthegingerdrummer
    @deanthegingerdrummer 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 coil unplugged

  • @jamieh4x4
    @jamieh4x4 3 роки тому +1

    unplugged cyl2 injector?

  • @christhorney
    @christhorney 3 роки тому

    unplugged cylinder 2 coilpack

  • @georgelucas6419
    @georgelucas6419 3 роки тому

    Why not just have O2 sensors on each exhaust bank instead of EGT's? Is it because of the limited temperature range of oxygen sensors compared to the k-type temperature sensors?

  • @shiftya4
    @shiftya4 3 роки тому

    Crank trigger input

  • @pontiacg445
    @pontiacg445 3 роки тому +3

    Anybody have any opinions on longevity of EGT probes pre-turbine? Is it worth the expense of getting a inconel sheath? Still suggest running a open probe?
    I am considering getting open tips to verify the tune is healthy, then either removing them entirely or swapping to closed tips to watch for radical changes.

  • @leshatt3616
    @leshatt3616 5 місяців тому

    Where would I install an egt probe on an ecoblue 2 lt ford transit

  • @germanlopez4796
    @germanlopez4796 2 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 injector disconnect?

  • @OWLLwisdom
    @OWLLwisdom 3 роки тому +1

    unplugged injector cylinder 2

  • @alitis000
    @alitis000 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like the injector was unplugged on whichever cylinder number 2 thermocouple was connected to.

  • @Aidoz_Garage
    @Aidoz_Garage 3 роки тому

    Fuel injector cyl 2

    • @haltech
      @haltech  3 роки тому +2

      Not quite 😉

  • @teamaxlestands
    @teamaxlestands 3 роки тому

    EGT2 unplugged... Also can you run an o2 sensor per cyl? would this give you a similar view of this info in another way?

    • @gavster89
      @gavster89 3 роки тому

      You could, but it's a $5 thermocouple or a $500 oxygen sensor...

  • @curtjobity8360
    @curtjobity8360 3 роки тому +3

    You unplugged cylinder #2 coil pack temperature dropped due to no spark to ignite the air and fuel so that cylinder starts to lose temperature

  • @NeverLetOff
    @NeverLetOff 3 роки тому +1

    You unplugged the coil on #2

  • @T40Z
    @T40Z 3 роки тому

    Disconnected injector plug?

  • @diabetic
    @diabetic 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder 2 coil pack

  • @heavyweaponsguy21
    @heavyweaponsguy21 3 роки тому +1

    You unplugged the coil on Cylinder 2

  • @skyrunner237
    @skyrunner237 3 роки тому +1

    Injector cylnder 2

  • @Felix.Garcia
    @Felix.Garcia 3 роки тому

    Hello, you disconnected the coil on #2

  • @towertsk
    @towertsk 3 роки тому +1

    Cylinder #2 no spark/fuel

  • @heavyweaponsguy21
    @heavyweaponsguy21 3 роки тому

    Can you guys bring back the black t-shirts with the yellow logo?

  • @enricewles
    @enricewles 3 роки тому

    Fuel injector, cylinder 2. Scotty's hand was way too car from the center of the cylinder head to be a coil... I know I'm probably way too late 😭

  • @autodiagnostics6081
    @autodiagnostics6081 3 роки тому

    number 6 was diconnected

  • @stevenbruzz6050
    @stevenbruzz6050 3 роки тому +1

    Cyl 2 coil pack

  • @IanB22
    @IanB22 3 роки тому

    Fuel Injector

  • @nickthelebo
    @nickthelebo 3 роки тому +2

    Cylinder 2 coil ... but I want a nexus not a tshirt please ;)

    • @haltech
      @haltech  3 роки тому +1

      How about a tshirt with a nexus on it?

  • @rimvydasr2166
    @rimvydasr2166 5 місяців тому

    Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) pre-catalyst
    Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) post-catalyst
    How do they calculate the temperature? Because
    one calculates very quickly and the other calculates
    much more slowly. And lags behind.
    Volvo xc 60 2.0 disiel D4 engine

  • @TheRevo33
    @TheRevo33 3 роки тому +2

    injector 2 unplugged!