Thanks. This helped me to get to work this morning. My fuse is OK and because the relay it doesn't click, I bet this is the culprit. Anyway, thank you so much for your effort.
Thank you this really helped me out after my Scenic wouldn't start this morning. Replaced fuse 2/3 times and kept blowing. Found the starter was shorting out the wires attached to it just needed adjusting.
@@22hman yes the fuse is kind of on its own inbetween the grey and brown block. Car starts first time but always seems a tiny bit hesitant not sure if that's normal or the glow plugs could do with changing.
@@Wilsee Hi do you have a petrol engine or same as this one !? i have a petrol and couldnt find the starter motor but as in your case i replaced the fuse abd its keep blowing .. do you have an idea where the starter motor is !?
@@mrwmaad I have a 1.5 diesel. I had to have a new starter motor in the end! My starter motor is near your legs as you open the bonnet look down and you should see a silver round thing bit larger than a drinks can. Make sure your battery is good too as a bad battery can cause all sorts of issues with Renaults.
Just Google starter motor location if your struggling. Was attempting to change the glow plugs when I lost a retaining clip for my turbo pipe. Sometimes you have to cut your loses and let the experts take over 🙄.
wonderful to hear. thank you for the feedback. Initially I had this and the 'recovery man' merely got me to bump start it, then said I needed to get to an auto electrician- hence I investigated and sorted it.
Thanks for that,my daughter has a 2010 mk3 and we are having ongoing problems with battery drain during lockdown.Bought a new battery travelled up to Richmond went to jump start and starter just make a clunking sound.Do you think this means the solenoid is OK,and the starter has gone ?
Please be kind to help :) Mine starts exactly like in your video, no problem. I changed the fuse but when I tried to turn it on, it started to make a sound like starting and then failed again. It only starts with the tiny cable. Looks like the fuse was blown again. Appreciate your help
So after a few weeks I changed the starter motor and since then it's not blown a fuse. Conclusion- solenoid sticking, drawing too much power and fuse blowing. Hope that was helpful
Hi mate if you have a blown fuse for the starter motor does this mean the car would never start? I ask this because I am having an intermittent issue starting mine, the battery is brand new so it can't be it. Do you think my starter motor is failing now?
The fuse protects the solenoid circuit. Back in the old days we had a turn key, if the starter 'clicked' you'd release the key and try again. Thus the fuse was not seen as needed. Now we push the button and the car takes over, sending power to solenoid. It does not register the 'click' which is the starter sticking, so it keeps the power on, burning out the solenoid wire, so they popped a fuse on the circuit. So a starter fault is usually shown with a blown fuse. If it's intermittent but not blowing the fuse then I'd check connections, then give the solenoid a tap when trying to start. A sticking or faulty solenoid should not blow the fuse, I think.
Hi i have Petrol engine 1.5 tce ,do you know where is the starter motor at this engine !? i have exactly the same issue .. and the fuse is keep blowing .
I have similar problem, but when I press start button many times then starts. Sometimes start at first, and sometimes on 15th. Its solenoid bad? 1.6 petrol 74kw
You'll need to do a test on the solenoid. Pop a tester on it, to check power. It should register as no power, then get a friend to press the start button. Assuming it does not start and there is then power, then yes, starter is sticking. This is generally when the Fuse blows. If there is no power then the fault is the relay or the switch. You can test the switch quite easily, or locate the relay and see if power is getting there when switch is pressed. Obviously these tests only work when it does not start, as if you press the button and it starts then there's not going to be a fault showing
Mi dci 1.5 scenic 2 2004 101cv diesel. 130.000km, tiene turbo, correa, vdalvulas ,segmentos ,bomba agua ,bomba inyectora,2 inyectores,de todo metido ,saneamento cableado y sensores, cableado estaba perfecto todo. El coche funcionaba muy bien pero pense hacerle un buen manteniniento y limpieza y por desmontar la egr y la tuberia. La limpio la dejo nueva impoluta. Y la monto tal cual estaba indica el manual, y mil videos tutoriales. Y conecto el unico cable que solte ,el de la egr. Todo bien montado no hay posibilad de ponerlo mal.todo esta en su sitio, Voy arrancar el coche ,es de mi novia para colmo ,que iva funcionaba perfecto, perfecto perfecto, fino redondo, pero necesitaba cambios de filtros y aceite ,le digo yo te limpio esto primero y te cambio todo gratis . Pues lo unico que hecho es eso limpiar la tuberia meterla en su sitio y lo misno con la valvula. Pues ahora voy arrancar ,arranca y alos 10 segundos se calo.se apago . Ahora intento arrancar y solo suena el motor de arranque, no noto ni que el motor se mueva. Solo el de arranque o eso creo ... dios mio estoy super disgustado.... cuando intento arrancar no hace casi ni amago de arrancar, solo suena el motorcillo arranque,o eso me parece ,aunque si noto en el tubo escape, que suelta presion aire, enpuja pero no arranca .... estoy y estamos super tristes ... yo me siento fatal....que mal sentimiento. Yo que lo di todo.
I'm depressed, what anxiety and bad body, I've broken my girlfriend's car recently bought second hand, she takes out her license leaving her skin .... she spends on the car ... it worked perfectly and I go I say wait before changing oil we are going to clean the egr and change filters and put new transmission oil and all good, because it is a dci 1.5 Scenic 2 2004 101cv diesel. 130,000 km, it has a turbo, belt, valves, segments, water pump, injection pump, 2 injectors, everything included, wiring and sensor sanitation, wiring was perfect. The car worked very well but I thought to do a good maintenance and cleaning and to remove the egr and the pipe. I clean it and leave it pristine new. And the quantity as it was indicates the manual, and a thousand tutorial videos. And I connect the only cable that I released, the one from the egr. Everything well assembled there is no possibility of putting it wrong. I'll clean this for you first and change everything for free. Well, the only thing that has been done is to clean the pipe, put it in its place and the same with the valve. Well, now I'm going to start, it starts and after 10 seconds it heats up. Now I try to start and only the starter motor sounds, I don't even notice that the engine moves. Only the starter or so I think... my God I'm super upset... when I try to start it doesn't even start, it only sounds the starter motor, or so it seems to me, although if I notice in the exhaust pipe, that it releases air pressure, it pushes but it doesn't start... I'm and we're super sad... I feel terrible... what a bad feeling. I who gave everything.
If the solenoid is clicking when you try and start from the button- as in start it normally- then it sounds like a jammed motor. The click at the motor should be the solenoid engaging the motor's teeth onto the flywheel teeth. If you power the motor direct and it won't turn then it sounds like it's stuck. Old test was to power it up and thump it with a bar, hoping to jog it into life. Another method- assuming the solenoid is engaging - (getting a click at the starter), is to pop it in gear, try and start then rock the car (assuming manual gearbox) as this will use the engine to spin the starter.
@@22hman the tap with a hammar got it going ad stopped and started over a dozen times with no problem since so keeping the hammar in the boot for now untill i can get a new starter hopefully before winter sets in. Thank you so much for your help
Im having a nightmare with my megane lol. I have checked all fuses, the battery is brand new but i crank but nothing. I tried to bridge the starter and it still doesn't start up. Do you think my starter has completely gone? Any help would be massively helpful.
If you're slightly handy then yes, it's a pretty simple job. It's fiddly to get it out, just a little bit of twisting and turning. Battery off, then nut to release the power lead, either a push fit or 10mm to the solenoid and then 13mm X2 to the gearbox. Simple, 30 minutes to an hour
@@22hman thank you so much for answering! Looks like i can do it, since I understand it's doable from the top without lifting the car. Doesn't seem too hard to find the part, the only thing that confuses me now, is i am finding motors with 10 and 12 teeth and they both say they are compatible with my car model and engine code. Should I take it off and count before ordering or there is a better way? 🤔 Sorry for the many questions, I am a newbie (And the garage was clearly trying to screw me!)
@@robzecc never come across the teeth issue but in honesty I didn't count them, just swapped the motor ! I recall doing these on 5GT Turbos and we used to swap in 20minutes, book time was 5.5hrs, due to removing turbo but once you knew where the bolts were you could do it blind and just feel your way round the back. These are right in front of you so dead easy to do, just tight to wiggle the unit out. That said they are neat little motors so just need a little 'persuading' to come out the hole
I just got myself 2 months ago a Renault scenic 2005. In the beginning of couple days the car was fine i think... But now in the morning, when i start it. Its on for 1,3 min then it shutsdown. Then i start it again, and drive it, but every stop i make it shutsdown, and i start it over again. After i drive for 10min its fine no problem. But if i leave it outside for 1 hour. Here we go again. I have to tried everything in my power. Am angry every morning or. Pls tell me where the problem may be. Its costing me...
Thank you a good-hearted man ❤, I really solved it right now, but it was a painful to reach to the fuse box and fuse itself 😂👌👍
thank you. Yes, designed poorly but once I'd found it I knew it had to be shared to save a lot of others a lot of grief !
New starter now installed- really easy job and no more issues.
Thank you, I just had the same problem and thanks to your video I solved it.
that's great- thanks for the comment.
Thank you so much for sharing this. Had the exact same issue and a fuse change resolved it!
Maybe in for a starter motor shortly, unless it was a one off. Fingers crossed
Thanks. This helped me to get to work this morning. My fuse is OK and because the relay it doesn't click, I bet this is the culprit. Anyway, thank you so much for your effort.
Thank you.
Let us all know if it is when you find the fault.
The relay click is quite audible, so either that or the push button?
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Thank you very much!!
Thank you this really helped me out after my Scenic wouldn't start this morning. Replaced fuse 2/3 times and kept blowing. Found the starter was shorting out the wires attached to it just needed adjusting.
that's great to hear- nice find and cheaper than a motor renewal- fuses are a pain to access. Hope the video helped locate them
@@22hman yes the fuse is kind of on its own inbetween the grey and brown block. Car starts first time but always seems a tiny bit hesitant not sure if that's normal or the glow plugs could do with changing.
@@Wilsee Hi do you have a petrol engine or same as this one !? i have a petrol and couldnt find the starter motor but as in your case i replaced the fuse abd its keep blowing .. do you have an idea where the starter motor is !?
@@mrwmaad I have a 1.5 diesel. I had to have a new starter motor in the end! My starter motor is near your legs as you open the bonnet look down and you should see a silver round thing bit larger than a drinks can. Make sure your battery is good too as a bad battery can cause all sorts of issues with Renaults.
Just Google starter motor location if your struggling. Was attempting to change the glow plugs when I lost a retaining clip for my turbo pipe. Sometimes you have to cut your loses and let the experts take over 🙄.
Top man!!! Had exactly the same problem and thanks to your video problem solved.
Thank you 👌
wonderful to hear. thank you for the feedback. Initially I had this and the 'recovery man' merely got me to bump start it, then said I needed to get to an auto electrician- hence I investigated and sorted it.
Gracias amigo mi choche es un Renault Grand Scénic gracias a tu video arregle mi coche le pasaba lo mismo un fusible gracias mucha salud
Fantástico, feliz de ayudar. Me alegro que te haya sido de utilidad el video
Thank you that was helpful
thanks, good to know another person helped
One of the best videos ive seen ever. I got a scenic 1.6 dci doing the same thing. But my fuses are all.ok. Does that mean the starter has had it?
Tnx man !!!!
glad it helped
Muchas gracias ha sido mi gran ayuda, Saludos
gracias, me alegro que haya sido de utilidad
Was it the starter drawing too much current or a bad earth somewhere ?
Thanks for that,my daughter has a 2010 mk3 and we are having ongoing problems with battery drain during lockdown.Bought a new battery travelled up to Richmond went to jump start and starter just make a clunking sound.Do you think this means the solenoid is OK,and the starter has gone ?
If the battery is good try tapping the starter/ solenoid as you press the start button. If she jumps into life then you're likely right.
Please be kind to help :) Mine starts exactly like in your video, no problem. I changed the fuse but when I tried to turn it on, it started to make a sound like starting and then failed again. It only starts with the tiny cable. Looks like the fuse was blown again. Appreciate your help
Any chance you can tell me how to change the fuel pressure sensor or just show me the location x
Really helpful video.
Tried the wire thing with my solenoid and it didn't start.
Started to smoke though.
New starter?
sadly yeah, starter jammed so current just shorting across
@@22hman one new ordered. Anyone know how long it takes in hours to replace it?
Think it took me about an hour. Very simple.
Hardest part is wiggling it out. Might have dropped it down but cannot recall
So after a few weeks I changed the starter motor and since then it's not blown a fuse.
Conclusion- solenoid sticking, drawing too much power and fuse blowing.
Hope that was helpful
Hi mate if you have a blown fuse for the starter motor does this mean the car would never start? I ask this because I am having an intermittent issue starting mine, the battery is brand new so it can't be it. Do you think my starter motor is failing now?
The fuse protects the solenoid circuit. Back in the old days we had a turn key, if the starter 'clicked' you'd release the key and try again. Thus the fuse was not seen as needed.
Now we push the button and the car takes over, sending power to solenoid. It does not register the 'click' which is the starter sticking, so it keeps the power on, burning out the solenoid wire, so they popped a fuse on the circuit. So a starter fault is usually shown with a blown fuse.
If it's intermittent but not blowing the fuse then I'd check connections, then give the solenoid a tap when trying to start.
A sticking or faulty solenoid should not blow the fuse, I think.
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I thought you weren't meant to put the black cable on a negative terminal on a dead battery? Could you please advise?
We've not actually shown the battery on this. Please clarify your comment as I do not follow.
Hi
i have Petrol engine 1.5 tce ,do you know where is the starter motor at this engine !? i have exactly the same issue .. and the fuse is keep blowing .
Is that the 1.4 tce? Not heard of a 1.5. It should be, if it's the 1.4, similar place to the diesel one.
I have similar problem, but when I press start button many times then starts. Sometimes start at first, and sometimes on 15th. Its solenoid bad? 1.6 petrol 74kw
You'll need to do a test on the solenoid. Pop a tester on it, to check power. It should register as no power, then get a friend to press the start button. Assuming it does not start and there is then power, then yes, starter is sticking. This is generally when the Fuse blows.
If there is no power then the fault is the relay or the switch. You can test the switch quite easily, or locate the relay and see if power is getting there when switch is pressed.
Obviously these tests only work when it does not start, as if you press the button and it starts then there's not going to be a fault showing
Mi dci 1.5 scenic 2 2004 101cv diesel. 130.000km, tiene turbo, correa, vdalvulas ,segmentos ,bomba agua ,bomba inyectora,2 inyectores,de todo metido ,saneamento cableado y sensores, cableado estaba perfecto todo. El coche funcionaba muy bien pero pense hacerle un buen manteniniento y limpieza y por desmontar la egr y la tuberia. La limpio la dejo nueva impoluta. Y la monto tal cual estaba indica el manual, y mil videos tutoriales. Y conecto el unico cable que solte ,el de la egr. Todo bien montado no hay posibilad de ponerlo mal.todo esta en su sitio, Voy arrancar el coche ,es de mi novia para colmo ,que iva funcionaba perfecto, perfecto perfecto, fino redondo, pero necesitaba cambios de filtros y aceite ,le digo yo te limpio esto primero y te cambio todo gratis . Pues lo unico que hecho es eso limpiar la tuberia meterla en su sitio y lo misno con la valvula. Pues ahora voy arrancar ,arranca y alos 10 segundos se calo.se apago . Ahora intento arrancar y solo suena el motor de arranque, no noto ni que el motor se mueva. Solo el de arranque o eso creo ... dios mio estoy super disgustado.... cuando intento arrancar no hace casi ni amago de arrancar, solo suena el motorcillo arranque,o eso me parece ,aunque si noto en el tubo escape, que suelta presion aire, enpuja pero no arranca .... estoy y estamos super tristes ... yo me siento fatal....que mal sentimiento. Yo que lo di todo.
can you upload a video of it 'not starting' ?
I'm depressed, what anxiety and bad body, I've broken my girlfriend's car recently bought second hand, she takes out her license leaving her skin .... she spends on the car ... it worked perfectly and I go I say wait before changing oil we are going to clean the egr and change filters and put new transmission oil and all good, because it is a dci 1.5 Scenic 2 2004 101cv diesel. 130,000 km, it has a turbo, belt, valves, segments, water pump, injection pump, 2 injectors, everything included, wiring and sensor sanitation, wiring was perfect. The car worked very well but I thought to do a good maintenance and cleaning and to remove the egr and the pipe. I clean it and leave it pristine new. And the quantity as it was indicates the manual, and a thousand tutorial videos. And I connect the only cable that I released, the one from the egr. Everything well assembled there is no possibility of putting it wrong. I'll clean this for you first and change everything for free. Well, the only thing that has been done is to clean the pipe, put it in its place and the same with the valve. Well, now I'm going to start, it starts and after 10 seconds it heats up. Now I try to start and only the starter motor sounds, I don't even notice that the engine moves. Only the starter or so I think... my God I'm super upset... when I try to start it doesn't even start, it only sounds the starter motor, or so it seems to me, although if I notice in the exhaust pipe, that it releases air pressure, it pushes but it doesn't start... I'm and we're super sad... I feel terrible... what a bad feeling. I who gave everything.
similar problem, except wont start when putting cable across connections (but it sparks)and fuse hasnt blown, any idea where to check next?
battery is good and fully charged, can hear the relay click when pressing start
If the solenoid is clicking when you try and start from the button- as in start it normally- then it sounds like a jammed motor. The click at the motor should be the solenoid engaging the motor's teeth onto the flywheel teeth. If you power the motor direct and it won't turn then it sounds like it's stuck. Old test was to power it up and thump it with a bar, hoping to jog it into life. Another method- assuming the solenoid is engaging - (getting a click at the starter), is to pop it in gear, try and start then rock the car (assuming manual gearbox) as this will use the engine to spin the starter.
@@22hman the tap with a hammar got it going ad stopped and started over a dozen times with no problem since so keeping the hammar in the boot for now untill i can get a new starter hopefully before winter sets in. Thank you so much for your help
Im having a nightmare with my megane lol. I have checked all fuses, the battery is brand new but i crank but nothing. I tried to bridge the starter and it still doesn't start up. Do you think my starter has completely gone? Any help would be massively helpful.
Sounds like it. You could remove the starter and then test it
Hi, Paul, I have the exact same problem, do you think I'd be able to change the starter motor myself?
If you're slightly handy then yes, it's a pretty simple job.
It's fiddly to get it out, just a little bit of twisting and turning.
Battery off, then nut to release the power lead, either a push fit or 10mm to the solenoid and then 13mm X2 to the gearbox. Simple, 30 minutes to an hour
@@22hman thank you so much for answering!
Looks like i can do it, since I understand it's doable from the top without lifting the car.
Doesn't seem too hard to find the part, the only thing that confuses me now, is i am finding motors with 10 and 12 teeth and they both say they are compatible with my car model and engine code. Should I take it off and count before ordering or there is a better way? 🤔
Sorry for the many questions, I am a newbie
(And the garage was clearly trying to screw me!)
@@robzecc never come across the teeth issue but in honesty I didn't count them, just swapped the motor !
I recall doing these on 5GT Turbos and we used to swap in 20minutes, book time was 5.5hrs, due to removing turbo but once you knew where the bolts were you could do it blind and just feel your way round the back. These are right in front of you so dead easy to do, just tight to wiggle the unit out. That said they are neat little motors so just need a little 'persuading' to come out the hole
@@22hman thank you so much! I will make sure i find the right part..
I wonder why the fuse only blows once in a while when the engine is really hot.
could well be a hotter starter motor is likely to stick more when worn
Hello, do you know the solenoid nomber?
Sorry, no
I just got myself 2 months ago a Renault scenic 2005. In the beginning of couple days the car was fine i think... But now in the morning, when i start it. Its on for 1,3 min then it shutsdown. Then i start it again, and drive it, but every stop i make it shutsdown, and i start it over again. After i drive for 10min its fine no problem. But if i leave it outside for 1 hour. Here we go again. I have to tried everything in my power. Am angry every morning or. Pls tell me where the problem may be. Its costing me...
petrol or diesel ?
Sensor comon rail
@@22hman petrol
@@afzabouchen9166 but i think i have changed it. If am right. But still same shit...