Asking a coach about this problem is pointless. A coach's job is to get their team in a winning mindset no matter what is handed to them. There were many problems with the CFP bracket, "rewarding" conference winners with 25 days off was one of them. Not reseeding after the first round is another. And auto-bids for small conference champs is another. Oregon got max punished for a 13-0 season with almost a month off, then playing the toughest team in the bracket. That is not how it should work.
Yes, there are things that can be fixed. Still football games happened. You gotta get your team ready, and win your games. I would feel bad for a highly ranked team that had to go through a gauntlet, like say Oregon. However, they were one and done, so it doesn't even apply. It's looking like Ohio State has the toughest road, but they don't seem to be bothered so far. We'll see next year.
That's not the point. The point is matching up teams that have the same time off, is the only fair approach. When Tennessee and Ohio St played each other both teams had the same time off. Once they play, they improve their timing, reaction time, read time, tackling, already significantly higher. So that when they play next game, and run into a 4 week off team, they now have a significant advantage. You could tell that the rust doesn't last too long, just that 1 game, but even during that one game the improvement is noticeable: The first half is horrible, then the 2nd half they start getting back to their timing levels and tackling, so that by the end of the game they are almost all back... But by that time, the hole is so so big. What we have learned from these 4 games is that the bye teams were in about 2-3 TD disadvantage. And the biggest part of that disadvantage is formed during the first half. But the hole is just about too big to overcome.
How dumb are you? All the non-bye teams played last week coming into THIS game. Having 3 weeks off doesn't matter when you already played a game last week
@@jacksonklark6119 yes but they were 13-0 and dominated all season long they belonged at 1 and I am a buckeye. Pen state didn't belong over OSU, Georgia and ND should have been in the top 4 with OSU then pen state or texas and then the rest
I think this was just a unique year where osu just played harder and peaked at the right time for revenge. I would almost blame Oregon being in the big ten and already playing osu more Then it being about this specific format.
@@valuecat dude the sec winner even in a 4 team format would've been a top for team. I'm arguing with the top commenter saying none of the top 4 team deserved to be in when all deserved to be in even if I think the bye system is bad.
You sit out for work for over a month and see how effective and efficient your work is after compared to before. You're going to be slow, rusty, out of rhythm. Then on top of that stay locked up in a hotel room for 24+ hours because of a terrorist and see if that doesn't affect you.
What? So the teams just set and watched T.V. for three weeks? Ohio state, Notre Dame, Indiana all had the exact same amount of time off as teams who played in conference championship games.
@@rchurch2769 I haven't seen Georgia play football in over a month. You do realize Conference Championships were at the very beginning of December right? The point is #1-4 wasn't helped with a bye week like the committee thought. Wasn't a coincidence they all lost the way they did.
I have a polar opposite take from Chip. We are finally crowning a true champion-just like when the NFL introduced the Super Bowl. This involves winning a lot of games, and whichever team is the last one standing after running this gauntlet truly deserves to be called a champion. Not crowning one as the result of a media-driven popularity contest, as was done in the past.
Thank you! I don't know what Chip is smoking. For decades we've been trying to get to this point, but now that we're here, the media has been bought out by corporations who are trying to brainwash us into thinking the old system eas better. It's so blatantly dishonest.
What we learned about the playoffs: (1) Home games help (2) First Round bye hurt Solution: (1) Every playoff game should be played at a neutral site (2) Get rid of First Round byes, every team plays in First Round
Terrible solution. Home site playoff games were amazing. Just fix the seeding issue and you get rid of some of the mismatched contests. It wasn't a bye week issue but terrible seeding/format issue. The committee couldn't do anything with the format that was given to them.
@@bigfootwalker5399 You're wrong. The committee didn't seed Boise State 3 or Arizona State 4..that was the predecided format agreed upon by all tele execs and conference commissioners. If you look up the ranking at the end of Conference championship week, it was Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn St in the top 4. Had those teams got a bye, the entire playoff would have looked more balanced. The committee didn't have any choice but to give a bye to Boise and ASU.
@@Aart.Vandelay NO They had no obligation to seed them that high! The CFP Committee decided to put Boise St and Arizona St in the Top 4, that was THEIR CHOICE and THEIR MISTAKE! The results proved that the CFP Committee was wrong, period
@ You're just wrong bub. There's a reason why the term seed was used separate from the rankings. You need to read up on why this format was invented and who was behind it. You can blame the committee all you want but they didn't cause this mess.
People can try to make up any other excuse they want, but clearly, the long layoff hurt the teams with the byes. Favorites or not, every team with the extra time off, came out flat, and by the time they got their feet under them the games were mostly over. And their opponents were coming in with momentum. Anyone who knows sports knows how important that is. Obviously, they should adjust the seeding process, but I still think that the byes will hurt more than help. If you get a home game against a lesser opponent and win, you will have the edge in this format. It's not like the NFL where the team with the bye is off for 2 weeks. We're taking about a month here. Big difference in football.
What we have learned is that a bye gives you 2-3TD disadvantage. Will any team in the coming years overcome that? Maybe. But does it make sense to spot any team this much? If they don't change the system, teams will start adjusting their last game of the season. Either adjust so everyone plays at the same time with same time off, or teams will adjust during the season to make sure they end up 5-8 seed.
Okay also Chip’s take feels like an overreaction to this specific year. For example osu won the first expanded playoff when they “would’ve never been the champion in any year prior” yet the next 9 years, for the most part, were dominated by Alabama and Clemson who would’ve won regardless of format. I think as this evolves we’ll see a return to the mean and teams at the top will generally be the only real competitors.
I think the bye hurt the playoffs. For everyone who has played football before, you know how hard it is to come back after being for 3 weeks without playing football. Even in the nfl with a bye it wasn’t 3 weeks long. For normal bowl games it’s fine because both teams are coming off a bye. Even for teams the first round, it’s fine because both teams are coming off a bye as well. But for the first round bye teams, they don’t even get the to touch the field until 3 weeks after the first round primarily because they are specifically ny6 bowl games so they do it on new years. So just get rid of the bowl games for the quarterfinals and make the semifinals the ny6 bowl games
In all the history of college football, it was a beauty contest, or who had the best propaganda. Now you have to win it on the field. The NFL has playoffs, and we acknowledge the Superbowl champion. Heck, the Steelers won as a wild card team, and we praise them for it. These are just ESECPN employees, towing the company line. Imagine any other sport, going by sos.
Remember the year when the Patriots won every game except the Superbowl? I don't remember anyone complaining how it wasn't fair. All this media noise is nothing more than business content.
Is James Franklin enough of a mastermind to throw a game on purpose to get a certain seed. Because the big 10 championship looked like that with how awful they were defensively
Georgia and Oregon got no excuses Georgia as a top 5 head coach don't care if you have a backup quarterback just figure out something as for Oregon best team in the country my ass complete all positions Ohio State fried them 🦆 s in the air and ground own the line of scrimmage both side of the ball never slowed down until the second half at that point players feeling bad for Oregons roster 😢
Yeah that's crazy you hear them crying " stop racism stop racism" " it should be said these coaches are black" 😂okay so I guess this guy is a racist if he feels the need to bring up race. Or would It not be racist if on the upper side of the bracket we got white coaches ooohhhhh it's going to be black vs white in the finals I guess huh?
Get rid of byes... don't give out competitive advantages based on opinion polls. 8 teams max... if a committee cant figure out who is the best in the country within an 8 team group, then get a new committee. Get rid of home games... again giving competitive advantage based on opinions.
The best in the playoffs?! Isn't that how every other American sport crowns its champion? It's not in-line with the champions of college football's history...THAT'S THE POINT!!! It's never been earned on the field before, they've always been crowned by the media. And then in '84 when the expected "blue blood" didn't win it was a tragedy to them. They're just mad that they can't script winners anymore.
I disagree. the Top 4 teams losing? That shows me it works. Prior years? Teams like OSU wouldnt be here. They wouldnt have the opportunity because they lost twice. This system is already better, im also just a biased ND fan. Chip Patterson is just wrong though. A team has to win all year, to be in the playoffs, then they cant lose in the playoffs... wtf do you mean "oh they wouldnt be champion any other year if they WON EVERY GAME". Such an uneducated take.
The problem is there are 134 teams in FBS. All but maybe two to four a year even deserve to compete for a national title. Having a twelve team playoff is ten teams too many.
Oregon would've been in a 4 team format and still got blown out by a team that wouldn't have. The amount of teams doesn't matter blowouts happen a lot in college football even against teams on relatively similar levels.
@@musclemonkey5823 Not what I said. You deserve the right to compete for one not have one given to them. They aren't going to retract the number of teams. There's too much money to be made. But if earning it by winning like you said then Ohio State would not have made a two or four team format.
@NathanMoist that's why having 12 teams is good because it gives more teams the chance to earn a national title I'm mean look at what they said all conference and 1st round bye teams are out which means if we had just left it 4 teams than we wouldn't have found the real best team. Im look at last year florida st got snubbed of a playoff run if we had a 12 team playoff they could have won a lnd proven they are a good team.
Asking a coach about this problem is pointless. A coach's job is to get their team in a winning mindset no matter what is handed to them. There were many problems with the CFP bracket, "rewarding" conference winners with 25 days off was one of them. Not reseeding after the first round is another. And auto-bids for small conference champs is another. Oregon got max punished for a 13-0 season with almost a month off, then playing the toughest team in the bracket. That is not how it should work.
Yes, there are things that can be fixed. Still football games happened. You gotta get your team ready, and win your games. I would feel bad for a highly ranked team that had to go through a gauntlet, like say Oregon. However, they were one and done, so it doesn't even apply. It's looking like Ohio State has the toughest road, but they don't seem to be bothered so far. We'll see next year.
Conference champions had the same time off as the teams who didn't play in a conference championship.
That's what I've been saying! The break didn't effect ND or OSU
That's not the point. The point is matching up teams that have the same time off, is the only fair approach. When Tennessee and Ohio St played each other both teams had the same time off. Once they play, they improve their timing, reaction time, read time, tackling, already significantly higher. So that when they play next game, and run into a 4 week off team, they now have a significant advantage. You could tell that the rust doesn't last too long, just that 1 game, but even during that one game the improvement is noticeable: The first half is horrible, then the 2nd half they start getting back to their timing levels and tackling, so that by the end of the game they are almost all back... But by that time, the hole is so so big. What we have learned from these 4 games is that the bye teams were in about 2-3 TD disadvantage. And the biggest part of that disadvantage is formed during the first half. But the hole is just about too big to overcome.
How dumb are you? All the non-bye teams played last week coming into THIS game. Having 3 weeks off doesn't matter when you already played a game last week
CHIP can cry more, they just needed to seed them. None of the teams except Oregon belonged in the 1-4 spots. Thats why the lost plan and simple
Yea I agree but Oregon still got blown out
Georgia probably would've been in a 12 team playoff too.
@@jacksonklark6119 yes but they were 13-0 and dominated all season long they belonged at 1 and I am a buckeye. Pen state didn't belong over OSU, Georgia and ND should have been in the top 4 with OSU then pen state or texas and then the rest
I think this was just a unique year where osu just played harder and peaked at the right time for revenge. I would almost blame Oregon being in the big ten and already playing osu more Then it being about this specific format.
@@valuecat dude the sec winner even in a 4 team format would've been a top for team. I'm arguing with the top commenter saying none of the top 4 team deserved to be in when all deserved to be in even if I think the bye system is bad.
Day in and day out you train to win ,if you lose because of a break it's on you.
If your the best in the regular season, you should also be the best in the playoff. Best team wins the natty, make sense?
You sit out for work for over a month and see how effective and efficient your work is after compared to before. You're going to be slow, rusty, out of rhythm. Then on top of that stay locked up in a hotel room for 24+ hours because of a terrorist and see if that doesn't affect you.
@ Good point.
What? So the teams just set and watched T.V. for three weeks? Ohio state, Notre Dame, Indiana all had the exact same amount of time off as teams who played in conference championship games.
@@rchurch2769 I haven't seen Georgia play football in over a month. You do realize Conference Championships were at the very beginning of December right?
The point is #1-4 wasn't helped with a bye week like the committee thought. Wasn't a coincidence they all lost the way they did.
I have a polar opposite take from Chip. We are finally crowning a true champion-just like when the NFL introduced the Super Bowl. This involves winning a lot of games, and whichever team is the last one standing after running this gauntlet truly deserves to be called a champion. Not crowning one as the result of a media-driven popularity contest, as was done in the past.
Thank you! I don't know what Chip is smoking. For decades we've been trying to get to this point, but now that we're here, the media has been bought out by corporations who are trying to brainwash us into thinking the old system eas better. It's so blatantly dishonest.
As a Penn State fan, I’m just happy that we made it this far
The long layoff is a poor excuse for losing.
It wasn’t byes. The winners were better teams
Stop this huge BS..Ohio State did not play for 1 month after Michigan game.
Chip is mad because the champion won’t be from SEC 😂
What we learned about the playoffs:
(1) Home games help
(2) First Round bye hurt
Solution:
(1) Every playoff game should be played
at a neutral site
(2) Get rid of First Round byes,
every team plays in First Round
Terrible solution. Home site playoff games were amazing. Just fix the seeding issue and you get rid of some of the mismatched contests.
It wasn't a bye week issue but terrible seeding/format issue. The committee couldn't do anything with the format that was given to them.
@Aart.Vandelay the CFP Committee alone decides who gets in and their seeding, so any mismatches are the CFP Committee fault!
@@bigfootwalker5399 You're wrong. The committee didn't seed Boise State 3 or Arizona State 4..that was the predecided format agreed upon by all tele execs and conference commissioners. If you look up the ranking at the end of Conference championship week, it was Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn St in the top 4. Had those teams got a bye, the entire playoff would have looked more balanced. The committee didn't have any choice but to give a bye to Boise and ASU.
@@Aart.Vandelay NO They had no obligation to seed them that high!
The CFP Committee decided to put Boise St and Arizona St in the Top 4, that was THEIR CHOICE and THEIR MISTAKE! The results proved that the CFP Committee was wrong, period
@ You're just wrong bub. There's a reason why the term seed was used separate from the rankings. You need to read up on why this format was invented and who was behind it. You can blame the committee all you want but they didn't cause this mess.
People can try to make up any other excuse they want, but clearly, the long layoff hurt the teams with the byes.
Favorites or not, every team with the extra time off, came out flat, and by the time they got their feet under them the games were mostly over.
And their opponents were coming in with momentum. Anyone who knows sports knows how important that is.
Obviously, they should adjust the seeding process, but I still think that the byes will hurt more than help. If you get a home game against a lesser opponent and win, you will have the edge in this format.
It's not like the NFL where the team with the bye is off for 2 weeks. We're taking about a month here. Big difference in football.
What we have learned is that a bye gives you 2-3TD disadvantage. Will any team in the coming years overcome that? Maybe. But does it make sense to spot any team this much? If they don't change the system, teams will start adjusting their last game of the season. Either adjust so everyone plays at the same time with same time off, or teams will adjust during the season to make sure they end up 5-8 seed.
Okay also Chip’s take feels like an overreaction to this specific year. For example osu won the first expanded playoff when they “would’ve never been the champion in any year prior” yet the next 9 years, for the most part, were dominated by Alabama and Clemson who would’ve won regardless of format. I think as this evolves we’ll see a return to the mean and teams at the top will generally be the only real competitors.
I think the bye hurt the playoffs. For everyone who has played football before, you know how hard it is to come back after being for 3 weeks without playing football. Even in the nfl with a bye it wasn’t 3 weeks long. For normal bowl games it’s fine because both teams are coming off a bye. Even for teams the first round, it’s fine because both teams are coming off a bye as well. But for the first round bye teams, they don’t even get the to touch the field until 3 weeks after the first round primarily because they are specifically ny6 bowl games so they do it on new years. So just get rid of the bowl games for the quarterfinals and make the semifinals the ny6 bowl games
Richard Johnson knows ball
In all the history of college football, it was a beauty contest, or who had the best propaganda. Now you have to win it on the field. The NFL has playoffs, and we acknowledge the Superbowl champion. Heck, the Steelers won as a wild card team, and we praise them for it. These are just ESECPN employees, towing the company line. Imagine any other sport, going by sos.
Remember the year when the Patriots won every game except the Superbowl? I don't remember anyone complaining how it wasn't fair. All this media noise is nothing more than business content.
Is James Franklin enough of a mastermind to throw a game on purpose to get a certain seed. Because the big 10 championship looked like that with how awful they were defensively
Chip is a moron,champion in a playoff is the best team which is playing its best football to finish the season as it should be.
Georgia and Oregon got no excuses Georgia as a top 5 head coach don't care if you have a backup quarterback just figure out something as for Oregon best team in the country my ass complete all positions Ohio State fried them 🦆 s in the air and ground own the line of scrimmage both side of the ball never slowed down until the second half at that point players feeling bad for Oregons roster 😢
Osu lost to Oregon AND Michigan they shld not be even in the playoffs they r 4th in the conference 😂
Really what difference does a coaches skin color make?…….. why is that important?…… why is it just not that he’s a great coach?……. Always about race
Do you really want to know, or do you just want to cry?
Wait James Franklin is black?
Yeah that's crazy you hear them crying " stop racism stop racism" " it should be said these coaches are black" 😂okay so I guess this guy is a racist if he feels the need to bring up race. Or would It not be racist if on the upper side of the bracket we got white coaches ooohhhhh it's going to be black vs white in the finals I guess huh?
Get rid of byes... don't give out competitive advantages based on opinion polls.
8 teams max... if a committee cant figure out who is the best in the country within an 8 team group, then get a new committee.
Get rid of home games... again giving competitive advantage based on opinions.
The best in the playoffs?! Isn't that how every other American sport crowns its champion? It's not in-line with the champions of college football's history...THAT'S THE POINT!!! It's never been earned on the field before, they've always been crowned by the media. And then in '84 when the expected "blue blood" didn't win it was a tragedy to them. They're just mad that they can't script winners anymore.
I disagree. the Top 4 teams losing? That shows me it works. Prior years? Teams like OSU wouldnt be here. They wouldnt have the opportunity because they lost twice. This system is already better, im also just a biased ND fan. Chip Patterson is just wrong though. A team has to win all year, to be in the playoffs, then they cant lose in the playoffs... wtf do you mean "oh they wouldnt be champion any other year if they WON EVERY GAME". Such an uneducated take.
The problem is there are 134 teams in FBS. All but maybe two to four a year even deserve to compete for a national title. Having a twelve team playoff is ten teams too many.
Oregon would've been in a 4 team format and still got blown out by a team that wouldn't have. The amount of teams doesn't matter blowouts happen a lot in college football even against teams on relatively similar levels.
@@jacksonklark6119 If there was a four team playoff this year Ohio State wouldn't have been in the top four.
No team in the history of sports DEAERVES a national title. They earn it by winning.
@@musclemonkey5823 Not what I said. You deserve the right to compete for one not have one given to them. They aren't going to retract the number of teams. There's too much money to be made. But if earning it by winning like you said then Ohio State would not have made a two or four team format.
@NathanMoist that's why having 12 teams is good because it gives more teams the chance to earn a national title I'm mean look at what they said all conference and 1st round bye teams are out which means if we had just left it 4 teams than we wouldn't have found the real best team. Im look at last year florida st got snubbed of a playoff run if we had a 12 team playoff they could have won a lnd proven they are a good team.
Yes
The playoffs suck
Funny listening to pencil neck nerds telling other ppl whats what in sports.Fools dont know ISH.Respect to kirby for keeping it real and classy