Reimagining Jewish Spirituality with Professor Arthur Green
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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Join us as we delve into the depths of Jewish mysticism and the revitalization of spirituality with Professor Arthur Green. With a wealth of knowledge and expertise in Hasidism and Neo-Hasidism, Professor Green shares his profound insights and personal journey. From his formative years studying under renowned scholars to his role as a leading figure in the Jewish Renewal and Neo-Hasidism movements, Green offers an exploration of the intricate teachings and transformative power of Jewish mysticism. Discover the wisdom and contemporary relevance of Judaism through the lens of one of its pre-eminent scholars, Professor Arthur Green.
Educated at Brandeis University and the Jewish Theological Seminary, Arthur Green studied under the direct tutelage of a generation of great scholars, Alexander Altmann, Nahum Glatzer, and Abraham Joshua Heschel.
He has himself taught several generations of students as professor of Jewish Thought at Brandeis University and University of Pennsylvania and as professor of Jewish Philosophy and Religion at the Rabbinical School of Hebrew College in Boston which he founded in 2004.
Over the course of his career, Professor Green has been the author editor, and translator of over twenty volumes on Jewish Mysticism, Kabbalah, Hasidism and Neo-Hasidism. Notably among his scholarly works are: Tormented Master: A Life and Spiritual Quest of Rabbi Nahman of Bratslav and Keter: The Crown of God in Early Jewish Mysticism.
But he’s perhaps best known of his own theological writings including Ehyeh: A Kabbalah for Tomorrow; Seek My Face: A Jewish Mystical Theology; Radical Judaism: Re-thinking God and Tradition; and Judaism for the World, Reflections on God, Life, and Love.
Professor Green is also a leading figure in the Jewish Renewal and Havurah movement and is a figurehead within the world Neo-Hasididism, a movement which aims to re-apply Hasidic teachings to contemporary life and revitalize Jewish spirituality for the 21st century.
Through his scholarship, educational work, and popular teaching, combining historical knowledge with original theology, Professor Green has contributed to the growth and vitality of Judaism in America and throughout the world.
00:00 Excerpt
00:12 Art’s Teachers
10:55 JTS and Abraham Joshua Heschel
16:21 Opening a window to Judaism
22:52 Too many Books?
25:30 Honestly and Complexity
31:41 Why Judaism?
36:34 The Baal Shem, A Radical Jew
40:31 Inner, Psychedelic journey of Judaism
44:29 Psychedelic Judaism
52:08 An Ongoing Struggle
54:20 A Neo-Legacy
58:49 NeoHasidism for the Non-Jew
1:03:48 Closing blessing
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Shalom aleichem!
Shalom, shalom. I live in France. I'm from Occitanie where all of what you talk about emerge. Sorry to writte on Sabbath. Please could you do or you with esoterica: what is the spiritual link between the observance of the mitsva (the 613) and the sake of unity in mysticism thought..What kind of link it has with 2nd temple judaism? What Paul has done with christianity that is so offensive? I'm very new. I apologize. I want to be respectful. I'm mindful of the inquisition and the holocost from roman catholicism...My questions stem from the last part of the conversation with Pr Green.😢
@@lys-fleurcesar3626 I have an answer to your first question. its quite lengthy so I'll type it out in a separate comment 🌟
Speechless, as a struggling Jew trying to find his way, this was was amazing.
Really cool that you took the time to add images of the people he mentioned, technical terms, and books
Thank you Suth. I’m really glad you appreciated it :)
Mensche and a legend - looking forward to this one
For me a breakthrough was getting into regular practice of doing meditation & prayer and then reading Hebrew Torah in a scroll/tikkun form (without vowels) "without conscious reading", just going through the text from letter to letter and word to word from cover to cover, focusing more on the letter's abstract symbolic meanings like Egyptian hieroglyphs, than through any conventional rationalized language, more like how one read or better listens music, directly into soul that was before any learned formal language.
I eventually tapped into an experience I cannot explain in words, but it changed me completely and after that Kabbalah really opened to me and also oral Torah and other conservative stuff that before didn't really speak to me - or I didn't find the "spark" in it until I really got into Toyrah. I know only few people who understand what I mean and they're all Chassidic Rabbis. It's frustrating because almost nobody understand what I mean, but I have found best to tell about it with music, even though no music in the whole world is even near the deep essence of Toyrah.
What symbolic meaning do Egyptian Hieroglyphs have for you? (Since I read Egyptian Hieroglyphs, I'm interested in what you see on them?)
The shapes of the letters do indeed tell a story~
The Hebrew alphabet represent so much more than words. They are numbers, geometrical patterns, vibrations... and symbols of life itself 🔆
True wisdom is being able to see past the trained way of interpreting life- to not just look at the black letters, but also to read beyond the text- to where even the white spaces in between & behind it have a deep meaning.
There is a world beyond our senses. and when we spend time in the white spaces of life we can access that deeper place you spoke of where no words can even express✨
I learned to read Hebrew at age 49 . I'm now 53 and I've never been the same ! White fire 🔥 written on top of the black fire 🔥 .😮 New dimentions , new compartments and new 🌍 worlds have opened up to me ! B'H
i keep having to pause this and just sit with the implications of this conversation every few minutes. What a substantive discourse. Thank you!
I just bought his book "A Guide to the Zohar," and I'm very glad to get this feeling for the man and his path and mission.
a wonderful discussion!
Just want to thank you not only for this lovely conversation but for the translations, diagrams, quotes and other bits that make this so accessible
You’re so very welcome 🙏🏼
Pursuing Jewish mysticism as a convert - what a magical journey:)
Welcome 🙏🏼
@@SeekersofUnity How refreshing to be welcomed:)
Welcome!
Agreed, as that is not always the case (which I have experienced first-hand:)
I need to look more into Arthur Green's work, thank you so much for getting this interview and putting it up!
You’re most welcome Sarah B.
Zevi ....wonderful conversation and presentation...a wonderful man ....amazing revelation into his own path and pragmatic outlook. Arthur was so frank and honest...I pray his legacy flourishes.
This should circulate widely. He should become known to other traditions.
Thank you Ramya. I second that ;)
A poetic and surprisingly honest conversation (esp about the psychedelic experience), made tastier with a peppering of your laughter Zevi. Just what one needs for the journey ahead
Thank you Heidi ☺️🙏🏼
Arthur Green exemplifies the balance of Gevurah and Hesed. A beautiful man.
Thank you both so much for blessing us by sharing your knowledge, wisdom, and experience!
❤ 🙏 ❤
Thank you for joining us in it.
Very enjoyable. Thank you Zevi. Prof Green is very kind. 32:12 to 32:32 is spot on. A real joy. Nothing should change, only progess forward.
Thank you Nicholas. It’s a pleasure. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Prof Green!!!! A mystic alive! Thanks for having him again in your chanel! ❤
You're most welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed
I just bought his commentary on the siddur and I’m still in the introduction. Many times, I’ve read a couple of paragraphs and then close the book and think. Highly recommended
Your question at 25:30 was so extremely revealing in how Green not only struggled to come up with a response, but also how vague and uninspiring his response was, ultimately boiling down to his leftist politics.
Wonderful interview!
Arthur Green is an amazing author.
17:49 ‘Unlocking Great Jewish Spiritual Treasures’ as stated by Prof. Green speaks volumes. An awesome fit, Zevi
Thank you Ketty. I’m so glad you enjoyed it.
Zevvi -- as an Austrian-Bolivian seeker of the unity before, behind, and beyond anthropic divisions, i greatly appreciate your question and the response at 59:00.
Are you familiar with the Order of Interbeing connected to Thich Nhat Hanh and Plum Village?
Warm regards from the Andes.
Hey Leon. I’m really glad you appreciated that. Thank you. I’m not familiar yet, but sounds like I should ;)
Warm regards from NY.
Shkoyach! Perfect pre-Shavuot viewing
Love you my dude 😘
Thanks zevi, that was excellent! What's with the drugs though?
You’re most welcome. Stay in school, don’t do drugs.
❤🙏🏻
I found this interview tremendously enjoyable and illuminating on countless points throughout.
Zevi, from one video to another you succeed on some how improving them and making them even better and more enjoyable. And your first video was already 💯
There is though a single point I did find disturbing, and I imagine I’m in the minority here.
Without discarding the ‘Hights’ experienced by hallucinogenics, I do wonder there being part of a healthy mystical process. I would love to hear a good quality debate on the topic.
Thank you Nachum. That’s very kind of you to say. I’m glad you’re enjoying them so. Re. I might be in the minority too. I don’t yet have concrete enough thoughts to share publicly but hope to participate in that discussion when the time is right.
With love,
Zevi
Super interesting talk. Prof. Green shows us how much we need to study and learn. Many people want to change Jewish practices, but Prof. Green explains the breath of thought that has gone into Jewish practice. Great interview and a thought-provoking talk.
Thank you Raphael.
Could you do a discussion about the difference or similarities between the Baal Shem Tov and Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai. Ive always wondered if they were the same or different. What are your thoughts zevi.
Hmm. We’ll have to pick this up :)
Professor Green: I think you are right Zevi, let's start a new religion.
Professor Green and Zevi both have a good but nervous laugh.
Professor Green: What do you want to get rid of first? Come on!
This is the opening line to this video.
To me, this says everything. I feel that they are both aware that the monotheistic religions need to be gotten rid of but they are too afraid to promote it. Their laughter has a kind of nervousness to it, reminiscent of two naughty schoolchildren who are trying to explore their freedom but are deeply afraid of getting caught by the principal.
Guys, have the courage to let go of your nostalgia and move forward and embrace what you are both aware of as being more fundamentally true.
To work to establish a religion that doesn't have the unnecessary baggage of a book that was clearly written for a different era with different world views. The constant attempt to make modern thought fit into ancient texts and claim that THIS is what the text REALLY meant is very tiring and uninspiring.
is there a bit where the discussion actually gets to the point of what neochassidus is or what exactly are the points of this theology? Everything I've ever heard by him sounds like a discussion around the topic as if the listened already knows all the points and just wants to schmooze around them during a breakfast coffee. I don't know all the points. Where is the actual substance?
Yashar Koach
Thank you my friend
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you can just say Eliade was a Nazi it's not exactly a secret
At some po㏌t many of us will questiюn the purpose & efficiency of our rituaʪ and wonder 31:45 “if closeness with G-d is the ultimate goal, what place do these practiŒs have in that” [when oftentimes can leave one feeling distanced from the unified whoᇉ.] but Its thro㎍h ask㏌g these questions that we can arrⅳe at a deeper understand㏌g of our practices.
In do㏌g l㍳ndry for l㏂e ex㏂pᇉ, we can ask ourselves, ‘is there a po㏌t ㏌ this process when the clothes wiᄔ j㎲t dirty up again? why not keep them hang㏌g ㏌ our closeʦ & t㏊t way stay forever cᇉan?‘ the po㏌t is, although cᇉanl㏌ess Is the goal, there remai㎱ someth㏌g more important: which is the wear㏌g & use of the garmenʦ. So tᅇ, unity & closeness with G-d ㎃y be what we're strⅳ㏌g for, but per㏊㎰ the ㏚ᅂess we take ㎩rt ㏌ to reach that unity a㏄omplishes someth㏌g Greater than the Unity iʦelf.
J㎲t like a coupᇉ dur㏌g their most ㏌timite momenʦ. their yearn㏌g is to be ONE, however t㏊t state of unity is often reached 0nLY after deep momenʦ of External bond㏌g. Iʦ those aspecʦ which the ㏇upᇉ engages ㏌ before㏊nd that ultimatly Enhances the entire experienŒ of togetherness, despite the fact t㏊t ㏌ those momenʦ they are not act㎂ᄔy unified.
Thats how I see jewish practice~ mitzvot are those aspects of Touch㏌g the SurfaŒ of G-d, which ᇉad ㎲ to experience G-d more ㏌timatley & fuᄔy. Without tѹ㏌g with the external aspecʦ of G-d, which this physical world is, u cannot say u were fuᄔy intimate. One m㎲t experience Both the ouʦide & i㎱ide ㏌ order to reach fuᄔ unificatюn & closeness ("As abve, so below"-. As with㏌, so without”). the exterior leads one to the ㏌terior; th㎲ it cant be discarded compᇉtely without tamper㏌g with the journey of ㏌timacy.
Ju㍲ism is primarily a relatю㎱hip with the Dⅳ㏌e. when ㎃ny would assume there is no G-d at aᄔ, those who do f㏌d G-d would probaЫy think G-d to be tᅇ tra㎱Œndent, ab㍵e time, tᅇ b㎲y, etc. to connect to. But Ju㍲ism takes this Highest Creator & for㎳ a relatю㎱hip with AᄔThatItIs, elevating ourselves in the process. iʦ the a㎃z㏌g awareness iᄔuminated by Torah t㏊t humanity dœsnt have to lⅳe life alone; t㏊t this earthly experience has a creator, & by spend㏌g time gett㏌g to know the Great Be㏌g who designed this ㏌credible world we can per㏊㎰ then get to learn more about ourselves & our eⅺstance thro㎍h that.
The qᵫstюn may stiᄔ l㏌ger though for ㎃ny truth seekers, who often see past the surface & layers of life, yearn㏌g to reach the essence of it aᄔ. We cont㏌ᵫ to wonder, what is the purpose of this earthly rea㏐ if we were already whoᇉ & unified with the Dⅳine before㏊nd? what is the po㏌t of haⅵng these exhaustⅳe practices ㏌ order to reach t㏊t s㏂e state of Unity that we already c㏂e from? For the a㎱wer, judaism & ㎄bbalah po㏌t to a tree.
Our story begi㎱ with a tree ㏌ Eden, & kabbalah describes life by an outl㏌e of a tree. W㏊t a tree can telll us, is that although ㏌ iʦ orig㏌al form as a Seed it was whoᇉ & perfect, where aᄔ iʦ fruit & branches already eⅺsted with㏌ this one teeny seed, as the seed encompasses aᄔ that the tree can be- the seed stiᄔ re㎃i㎱ noth㏌g until planted & toiᇉd with. Just how ㏌ the higher realms everyth㏌g is whoᇉ & ㏌ a compᇉte state of perfectюn. but only ㏌ this ㏗ysical world can everyth㏌g tra㎱form from iʦ ㏌f㏌ite potential ㏌to an actualized state; where our souʪ get to manifest here & bear fruit, just like a seed, reach㏌g a deeper se㎱e of fulfiᄔment. Thaʦ how this world is meant to be experienced.
In this reality, we take what see㎳ to be complete, such as a seed, or fuᄔy grown wheat; and we tra㎱form it ㏌to someth㏌g Greater than what it was ㏌ iʦ complete form by bak㏌g it ㏌to bread or a cake, or plant㏌g the seed. Sure we can eat a grain of wheat whoᇉ, but most would agree t㏊t its more enjѹabᇉ when crushed, & baked with other ㏌gredienʦ. theres an art & delicacy created through process㏌g the gra㏌ which one dœsnt experience when eat㏌g it on iʦ own. Iʦ for that reason that bread ㏌ ju㍲ism is co㎱idered so sacred & ㏌corporated ㏌to much of our lifestyle, because it represenʦ the essence of man & this earthly realm. Wheat iʦelf is Ыand, but when formed ㏌to bread, it elevates ㏌to a much higher state (literally & figuratⅳely, which is why the dough Rises as a result of be㏌g baked, as it rises from a state of raw potential ㏌to actualization). It's a rem㏌der that this is a world of process; iʦ not about be㏌g whoᇉ & unified, because someth㏌g whoᇉ cannot tra㎱form.
In the spirit realm, everyth㏌g is compᇉte & there is no room for change; like how a whole gra㏌ of wheat cannot become bread unless crushed ㏌to thousands of fragmenʦ of flour, So tᅇ ㏌ this world of duality we experience what is Whoᇉ, but ㏌ Fragmenʦ. ㏌ which we can then create Art from.
We needed to break off from our pre-existential sate of unity ㏌ order to reach a po㏌t of tra㎱formatюn & fulfiᄔment of our great potential & reunify ㏌ a grander way. Iʦ why humans are drawn to art & music because someth㏌g beautiful happe㎱ when Raw material is processed & turned ㏌to a masterpiece. This is what we are here for. Here we get to become like G-d through our acts of creating & manifest㏌g, where ㏌ heaven we are j㎲t receivers.
In the upper rea㏐, G-d is aᄔ there is. its ㏌ this world that G-d hides, to the po㏌t where most wonder if there is even One at aᄔ. One of the purposes of a mitzvah (a specific torah practice) is so that we can ㏌fuse our lⅳes ㏌ this ㍲rk earthly realm with G-d consciousness. Where most would just see a regular piece of fruit- we get to pick up that strawberry & recite a blessing over it, pointing out to the world (and ou₨elves) “There Is G-D In THIS.” Through our practices, we take simple physicality & f㏌d ways to elevate to an even greater level; and ㏌ those moments we unify Ourselves, G-d, and nature.
So beautifully said! ❤