@xyx7663yeah it's confirmed that Serie was restricting her mana, and she has way more mana than Frieren. Because we know from the fight against Aura that your mana grows according to the time you spent training, and Serie is much MUCH older than Frieren (Serie comes from the mythical era), so that's why she has way more mana than Frieren. Also Lernen isn't the demon king, he's just a very skilled human mage, he's the strongest apprentice of Serie, he's so skilled that he could see through Frieren's fluctuations at first glance, but he still couldn't see through Serie's fluctuations, that shows how good Serie is in hiding her mana
The following is said and intended in kindness to help you find all of the threads you seem to be missing according to your commentary. You will want to rewatch the season, especially around and before the episode frieren kills aura. Serie taught Flemme, Flemme taught Frieren. Flemme and Serie disagreed about Flemme going out and killing demons. Flemme taught Frieren immediately to hide her mana always. It seems to be an innate skill all magic users can use, like softening steps and controlling breathe when sneaking. Flemme took it to extremes to do it always and taught Frieren the same to trick demons. Serie probably had to do it to a lesser extent, though more than normal, to keep adversaries from tracking her down, and so friendlies wouldn't run in terror, but never to the point of extreme of Flemme and Frieren. Serie chases magic for mastery and power. Her obsession rivals that of the demons, though her purpose is mastery and power but not so much to be dominant over others. She seeks to be her vision of a perfect mage with breadth and depth. Her pursuit is that of a passionate scholar. This can be seen in that she cannot turn away a student with potential, even if the student could one day possibly surpass her. She sees the simpler, direct, combat and deception focused practice of Flemme and Frieren as a waste of time and potential, an abuse of magic and the talent for it. She demonstrates human impatience because she seeks the shortest path to mastery of her craft, hiding away from all but talented mages and those with great potential , but doesn't enjoy the journey. After Frieren became proficient, Flemme taught her the spell to make a field of flowers in part to help remind her that magic was more than a tool or weapon. That it could be used in many ways to enrich even small moments in people's lives. This re-ignited Frieren's passion for the possibilities of magic and pushed her to chase after the little spells hidden in obscure corners, something Flemme did as well. This was probably reinforced by all of the running around she did with Flemme, she learned that it wasn't just the magic, but the path you walked to learn it, the story behind a spell's creation, all valuable. Then to have her journey with Himmel really begin with just such a spell, though it took the rest of his life for her to learn, showed that it was that story and the people in it that tied all of magic together. The path taken, and not taken, the people walked with and fought against are the real magic; the spells are tools and weapons, the delights and sorrows, the colors and flavors of those quests and ultimately the very memories of those tales and people that will one day be forgotten. Now Frieren walks that lost path with Fern and Stark, both reliving a past she engaged less in than she wishes, while watching a new unfold in real time before her for the first time with her new companions. Oops. Too many run-ons, and sorry for waxing poetic. Hope that makes sense / helps! Thanks for the content!
@@theghcu you babbled around for so long just to say Serie doesn't hide her mana as much as Frieren LOL. where did you even get this idea, this was NEVER mentioned. can we STOP with this idea that Frieren hides her mana in a more extreme way and Serie just does it in a low-key way because she likes to show off? PLEASE. frieren fanboys need to stop this copium. Serie is MUCH older than Frieren, and as we know it, mana grows according to the time you spent training, so OBVIOUSLY Serie has WAY MORE mana than Frieren. Serie is NOT hiding just a little, this would completely defeat the purpose of hiding your mana anyways, since the idea behind this technique is to be able to make your opponent severely underestimate you and catch them off-guard, so for this to work Serie MUST hide majority of her mana, otherwise it's pointless. Also, despite criticizing the technique, Serie has mastered it to such a level where she's even BETTER than frieren in hiding her mana, since Lernen was able to see through Frieren's fluctuations at the first glance but he couldn't see through Serie's fluctuations even after 50 years by her side.
@@boboyo3140 First, this is not intended to be an arguement, please don't read it that way. 1) faroh stated in the commentary of the video to the effect that she didn't know where or didn't think that the content explained where Frieren learned to suppress her mana to that extent. I pointed her in the direction of where in the narrative she could find what she missed as a viewer. 2) faroh's commentary indicated that she might not know the some of the causes of the friction between Serie and Frieren. I described some of those relationships and my understanding of the disagreements as presented so far, though I don't claim perfect understanding myself. 3) as presented, the amount of mana visible from frieren at the end of Flemme's life is not significantly different from that initially visible during the last fight with Aura. This would seem to indicate that the radius of emission does not necessarily grow the the total amount of mana. What might have represented 1/10th of Frierens mana in Flemme's time may represent far less than 10% in the present. The radius of emmision seems to change far less than the total mana, implying it is up to control rather than being correlated to total mana. Serie is definitely suppressing a much larger amount of mana than Frieren, but her radius of emission is much larger than Frieren's meaning either she is less interested in doing it and hasn't pushed it to it's limit or she actually has somewhat less control in this one aspect.
@@theghcu no, the mana when Frieren was suppressing down to 10% during her time with Flamme was MUCH smaller than the mana she was showing against Aura. Go read the manga chapter 21 and you'll be able to see. Frieren's mana when she was suppressing in the past with Flamme was so small that it was barely leaking out, but in her fight against Aura it had become much bigger already. Again, read the final pages of chapter 21, from the point where Flamme asks Frieren to control her mana down to 10% for the first time. Also, I already explained to you the reason why Serie's mana is still SO BIG despite her restriction. It's because Serie's mana is RIDICULOUSLY big, to the point where even her concealing it all the way down to 10%, she's still showing that much mana.
Now explaining her "disappointment" comments (both to Frieren and to her human students). First people need to understand this: Serie ADORES POTENTIAL. If she sees potential in anyone, she IS GONNA want to see this potential reach their limits. Ok now here we go: 1) Frieren: the reason why Serie really is petty with Frieren is bc she thinks Frieren is a wasted potential. Frieren literally spent CENTURIES supressing her mana walking in the forest, doing....nothing basically, while the humans were evolving. In Serie's mind, magic is to be used in wars, to fight. In Flamme and Frieren's minds, magic can also be used to bring happiness and beauty to the world (the flower field for example). So for Serie, Frieren is like a genius child that is playing with toys, while they could be doing so much more. 2) Her human students. First i need to clarify: Serie loves each of her students. She is just capping when she is harsh. So, the reason Serie keeps calling them a "disappointment" (and part of the reason she didn't want humans to learn magic) is bc it's also a wasted potential. In what sense, you ask? Well, this is related to their lifetime. In Sense's mind (and she is not wrong in this one) humans CAN NEVER reach their true potential, bc they die too soon. But even so she STILL takes human mages as her students. It's like if you want a 95 years old person to become the greatest professional in their area, for example....you simply have no expectations this person will even reach great achievements. That's why she only takes TRUE talented people as her students. And i do think most people overlooked this: dude, Serie just said Lernen could possibly win against Frieren, like.....that's what i meant when i said she takes really talented people to teach. Also, for people complaining why she failed so many people: if she had passed all of them, she'd basically sending them to their death. They would be allowed in places only first-class mages could reach, and then, if they didn't have enough skills, they could die. So in the end she's doing what she thinks it's right.
Correct on the first-class mage point. People do not understand what 1st classes have to do yet in this world and none of it is easy. You don't simply wear the title, you are tasked to extremely difficult missions from stealth to all out brawls with monstrosities and demons that are more powerful than what a typical mage would encounter. Serie is harsh because she cares, she doesn't want to see a bunch of people going to their death simply because she pleased them in giving a title that means nothing without the skill to back it up.
About point 1. Isn't that what Fern thinks too on episode 2? When she's sad because "Frieren is looking for something useless, instead of saving lots people"? 🤔
One would think that she would know a spell to extend human lifespan to circumvent them from dying before reaching their potential, but apparently that spell doesn't exist or it is one of the few she doesn't know.
It's implied that Heiter taught Fern to supress her mana because he had seen Frieren do it and how useful it was and he learned it from her. Fern is so good at it because she's naturally gifted. As Serie said to her apprentices, doing it well requires natural talent or a couple of centuries of practice.
Yup, you got that one. Frieren's full mana = Serie's supressed mana LOL well...Serie IS the most close we have to a goddess after all. But i still think if Lernen really couldn't see the fluctuations in her mana, or if he simply didn't say anything about it
I don’t think Lernen saw any fluctuations in Serie’s mana because Lernen is her student for half a century if he saw anything he’d have told her long time ago, the reason he saw Frieren’s fluctuations is because he knows she is an elf so in his mind she gotta be at least same as Serie’s mana or a little bit lower than her. If that makes sense.
Recall when Fern demonstrated Frieren’s weakness, Denken wondered why he didn’t notice it when they fought, and then said it was because he never expected such a rookie level weakness in a mage of Frieren’s caliber and so wasn’t looking for such a thing. A similar dynamic could be at play here. Lernen never expected that Serie would ever have need or reason to suppress her mana, and so never really thought to look for it.
The manga is pretty explicit that Lernen's mana detection is below Fern's ability, and that was her other disappointment about him. Interestingly, she doesn't say that the Lernen's face because she was hoping over all those years he would realize it.
@@erenyeager836it's a valid argument but I think he was able to see through Frieren's fluctuations simply because he's very skilled, and he wasn't able to see through Serie's fluctuations because she hides it better than Frieren.
Ngl Faroh i'm actually surprised you didn't went on a rant when Serie started to talk all those things 😂 bc i've seen a lot of...let's say..."emotional" people simply hating on her like crazy. I feel like people don't try to understand Serie's character correctly. She is a little difficult to get, but when you let her words aside and look at her actions, you get it: First of all, i love Serie's pettiness🤣. But anyway. Serie is a big tsundere. Let's analyze this calmly: *she said she trained Flamme on whim, but still went on a walk with Frieren just remembering Flamme *she said she wouldn't carry Flamme's will, but she LITERALLY created the magic association *she says it was a waste of time repressing her mana, but she still do it anyway *she said she doesn't like to take human students, but she still remembers every single one of them (Flamme, Sense, Lernen) and even how each of them behave *she calls the flower field spell "useless" while in a room full of flowers (cause she obviously liked Flamme) Serie is not that bad like she herself wants to appear LOL
When Fern noticed the fluctuation in her mana, Serie was so excited, she subconsciously caressed the flowers ... so who's the big flower-lover here huh?
I’d bet money that Serie straight up MADE the flowers in her little greenhouse using Flamme’s spell, which she has been secretly casting every day, even as she tells everyone and anyone who cares to listen that it is “useless”.
Frieren's wording when talking to Himmel is interesting. She says "there are plenty of mages in the Holy City, it didn't have to be me." To which he responds "I wanted you." It reminds me of her conversation with Fern on top of the flower tower when she asks Fern if she loves magic. Fern says she could have chosen any profession, "it didn't have to be magic." To which Frieren responds "but you chose magic."
Faroh, I'm sorry some people are not letting you have your own thoughts and are over explaining things. I really enjoy your reactions and thoughts, please don't let any rude comments discourage you.
Serie is just like a tough super-grandma. She is upset with her overachieving "daughter" Flamme not having visited her in life but left a bunch of obligations for her to fulfill at her death. And she's upset with her "granddaughter" Frieren for having potential to be great at school if she only studied harder, but wanting to just chill and hang out with tattooed bikers. But she loved them anyway. She loved all of them. You will see in the next episode. Even Lernen (she called her "that boy," like she called Flamme "that girl" - she called all humans "those children"), she was only giving him the tiger-mom passive-aggressive "push" by expressing disappointment for the child to be shamed into performing better. Yes you're right she wanted him to be more courageous and stop being timid and humble, traits she dislikes - and in the next episode you will see that she's successful in that. You are again correct that she expected Frieren to be strong enough to solo the Demon King. Although Frieren did anyway, Serie saw it as more trick than skill, and Frieren's trick didn't work against the big boss, and she had to do it with a party; that's why Serie remained disappointed in her. The final interview question was like "one more chance: do you promise to study hard now" with an answer of "no I like hanging out with bikers they're cool YOLO."
the first first-class mage Lernen who had been training under Serie for over half a century could never notice that she was concealing her mana. he was skilled enough to see Frieren’s instability, but not Serie. Fern being able to see Serie’s instability shows that she was born with innate talent and has Flamme level potential, or even greater.. “i can take you to heights never reached before by a mage”
“Never before reached by any mage” suggests Serie thinks Fern’s potential is GREATER than Flamme’s, not just equal to. Hell, “any mage” could even include Serie herself, with Serie thinking that Fern might even have the potential to accomplish something in magic that even Serie herself has not and can not.
I love your reactions, you make good points and observations! I like that you noticed that serie is also supressing her mana, so her supressed mana would be equal to frieren's unsupressed mana and also the part of the flower field spell, you noticed before they explained with details
Just like the City barriers Flamme built. Flammes influence continues to shape humanity's destiny. From the ever-powerful city barriers to a spell as simple as creating a field of flowers 😇 She is truly a Legendary Mage. 😇
Honestly, people just have a natural desire to correct someone if they know they're wrong, and a few people are just less mature and understanding when they do so. Don't let it get to you. I think most of the people who watch your reactions are just happy to see your reaction and listen to your takes, even if they don't agree with your takes. I watch these reaction videos because I want to see what other people think after all.
She's like a 20 year old in Elf years. She's young. Mind you, it's *heavily* hinted at that Serie has been around since before the rise of *Human Civilization* Remember she tells Frieren that they're functionally immortal. And we remember that Kraft's so old that no one remembers his statue, or his name anymore and Serie makes *Kraft* look young.
Feel bad for Serie when she said she wanted to stop taking on human students. Must be frustrating for her to watch people get strong and never fully reach their potential. But she's been doing it for so long lol, I mean she was Flamme's master.
I think Kraft is older? Idk just based on his eyebags he looks like he would be in his equivalent of like "mid thirties". Meanwhile Serie looks 15 yo's
@@faresty7279 You having a clown avatar is fitting. It's called context clues. Maybe when you up your reading comprehension you can respond better next time.
Note that the anime has introduced a contrast: when Fern was upset with Frieren at the beginning of the episode, Richter asked her whether she was Frieren's student and she was silent and Stark had to answer for her. But after Frieren fixed her staff and she realized Frieren really cared for her, she said to Serie loud and proud that she was Frieren's student.
keep up the good work! i enjoy your vids so much because i have no one to share my interests with, its like i can watch those animes with someone together. it feels very wholesome for me. thank you so much.
I will never understand these harsh comments omg :D You said it countless times that you are only anime watcher and people still cant understand it... I'm also only watching anime just like you and i really LOVE your emotional first time watcher reactions, my favourite reaction channel by far, its not close!
Serie: Training magic for humans is useless, learning flower magic is useless, and suppressing mana is useless. Also Serie: Does all of the above. She trains and remembers all of her apprentices, she has a flower garden specifically made from magic, and she has been suppressing her mana this whole time.
I think it was implied that Heiter taught Fern how to suppress her mana, in episode 11, and even some basic magic that you could learn from textbooks or grimoires (Zoltraak, the butterflies ...)
Im sorry you had to deal with all those comments, hopefully that didnt sucked all the fun from the show Im excited to see your reactions to this show every week, sometimes you are the one who picks up on thinks i didnt so its really fun
You see Ferns quick spell casting ability when she said "What? No" 😅😅😅 I dont wish to experience rejection in the speed of light. I DONT ENVY SERIE 🤣🤣🤣
One thing to add: the “useless” spell also saves the world. Without it, Frieren and her party never join together. As Frieren says, the demon king is only beaten with all of them together. In fact, the technique Flamme teaches Frieren for vengeance, mana suppression, doesn’t even work on him. Instead, flower magic, the only peaceful spell Flamme teaches to Frieren, leads to the demon king’s ultimate defeat. It’s is not hate that brings forth a peaceful era but love.
I think it was heiter who trained or maybe told fern to conceal her mana. if you can remember from other episodes. there's a flashback with heiter telling frieren about heiter having a child in the future and told frieren that he knows that frieren is supressing her mana and that is a worthy of praising. in that case maybe it is heiter who teaches fern to supress her mana. frieren was surprised heiter knows that and when frieren first met fern she immediately noticed that fern is somewhat invisible and can suppress her mana at a very young age really well.
I dig your reactions to frieren, i watch the show then i usually watch your impressions and for the most part i feel like you have been pretty spot on with things at first glance. Dont let the bad actors get you down i think you are awesome!
Indeed it seems that Serie's mana compressed is roughly the same intensity as Frieren's uncompressed. You are the first reaction of far too many I have watched where that was noticed and comented on. Serie is also more skilled at hiding her mana... How long do you think she's been doing that?
Remember from when they first arrived in the mage city before the exam started (just before the much memed Fern’s chest blocking out half the sky scene), Frieren actually hinted that she didn’t need to/want to take the First Class Mage Exam at all, and that only Fern passing would be enough for their purposes? Frieren only relented and agreed to take the test too when Fern said she didn’t think she could pass. So basically Frieren entered the exam purely to provide reassurance for Fern, and had not cared from the beginning about her own passing or failing. And she basically treated the whole exam as a chance to have fun and meet new people.
11:57 What the hell you have a photographic memory 😳 I had to go back and watch episode 18 to verify that Lernen was the same old guy who recognized Frieren's holy emblem (and he's also the one who created the emergency escape golems!)
The implied lethality of the normal third test puts Sense’s reputation for not allowing anyone to pass in a new context. She makes the second test so incredibly difficult to make as certain as she can that only those who are capable of surviving the third test will actually get through.
Your reactions are soo genuine and I felt the same when watched this first time, which is why I am watching your reaction videos, good and honest. Just don't let the hate comments get to you.
24:44 "we don't need another 1st class mage in the party" Another way to put it is in Himmel's words, just like they said they don't need a holy emblem (necklace) to know that Frieren is an incredible mage - "we don't need Frieren to be classified as a 1st class mage to know how good of a mage she is" 😭
Idk if this is confirmed or not but there are context clues that heiter taught fern to conceal her mana. From what I vaguely remember when heiter was talking to frieren about finding out frieren was only concealing her mana, heiter said he might want to teach his future kids that technique if he might have
The last time Frieren upset Fern with her emotional obliviousness, she spent like half the episode confused as to why Fern was upset at all. This time, though she still didn’t get the emotional connection beforehand, the moment Fern got upset, she understood immediately why, and immediately set out to make it right. This is progress. Subtle, but substantial, character development. Also, Stark seems to have leveled up in emotional maturity too.
The way you go about asking questions about the series and analyzing moments is really impressive. A really good mix of empathy and critical thinking that I don't see with other reactor's. Keep doing what you do, don't let a bunch of weebs get you down lmao
Frieren is probably a teenager in elf terms yeah. She was a child when Flamme found her and when she met Serie she looked about the same as she does now, that probably shows that Serie was already an adult by that point and has been around for a lot longer. the elf females we have met are both short and petite but just from their faces and voices you can tell there is supposed to be a big age difference between them.
6:08 they did not know eachother before the exam but Denken basicly adopted her as a granddaughter (which i think is really sweet since Denken's wife died and he had no kids and grandkids but he sees what they could be in Richter and Laufen)
There is an omake where Frieren remembers and said "I remember now! So you were the KID from back then." Himmel dejectedly replied "Isn't that a little harsh?".
Note that whoever becomes a first class mage will have access to the Northernmost Region where a lot of Fighting with Demons is still on going. So failing them also means she's making sure they won't be able to go their and possibly lose their lives.
I think Serie feels lonely at the top of magic and wants her aprentices to catch up to her or surpass her, and that is why she feels disapointed, cause when they are getting close to her, they die of old age before ever catching up. That is also why she is mad at Frieren cause she has the talent and the lifespan to catch up to her but lacks the ambition to do it.
Serie is literally the level of what you would call a God Mage. Frieren would stand no chance in defeating her, no mage honestly could, however in this series it's not always about who has more power but about who can visualize themselves winning, it's really about belief in ones self and spirit of determination. Serie is powerful in many aspects of a mage and Frieren is powerful in learning the aspects of humanity where Serie can't see what's so good about it. Just like the Demon king, Serie could lose to a well coordinated attack and team, even if she is a walking cataclysm.
Frieren's words, not mine: "even i can't picture myself beating her at all. There is no doubt she reigns supreme over all human mages of this era. She is beyond human's comprehension". I honestly don't know why people think Serie is afraid of humans or even that anyone could even reach her level tbh. No, Frieren could not beat her at all. Serie is, at the moment, the most powerful character in the series after the goddess herself.
@@JoshuaGrimes-dz4wy I wanted to make this less spoiler for others so spoiler warning for below: 1v1 Serie beats all, but if you're caught up to the manga as it seems you are, a skilled warrior and a coordinated attack could pose a threat to her. It's something I enjoy in this series about checks and balances to power. The demon king was to demons a force that could never be defeated and yet he was, Serie can die to a blade puncturing her heart as anyone else, it's just she has measures to prevent such a thing from happening, if she were caught off guard by someone extremely skilled, which for warriors in this world can be obtained in a humans life time, then she would be in danger, The hero of the south was the stronger of the two heroes when it came to Himmel and him yet he died and knew he was going to, he knew Himmel would be the one to defeat the Demon king instead, this is just again the author showing us how being the strongest isn't always the end. I wouldn't say Serie is afraid of humans, she wouldn't work so heavily with them if she were and she'd certainly not care for mages dying if she hated or feared humans. She simply wants talent that wishes to sore to extreme heights.
Maybe Heiter might not actually taugh but gaving Fern the concept of hiding her mana and Fern is a smart kid pratically try doing on herself. Caz an ep recalled that Heiter knew Friern hide her mana and told her to tell about herself as it might be useful if he would had a kid in future
Hiding your mana is a subset of what's called mana control. According to Frieren, mana control is the hardest thing to master for mage students. The fact that Fern had excellent mana control when she was just 8 years old shows her unfathomable talent.
I think what Serie means when she calls Frieren’s mana suppression “inefficient” is in terms of combat utility against general opposition (ie not demons). Because demons are naturally much more sensitive to mana than pretty much everyone else, you have to much better at mana concealment to fool them. But you don’t need to be that good at it to use it to fool anything else in the heat of combat. So instead of spending centuries perfecting the ability, you could just train at it for a few years, and spend the rest of your time getting better at other types of magic. This recalls the difference between Serie and Frieren, ie that Serie is a warmonger and Frieren is a mage for a peaceful era. Serie values general combat utility. For her, magic is a weapon for fighting, anything and everything. Frieren, however, only really wants to fight demons. She only cares about combat magic inasmuch as it is useful/needed for fighting demons. So she basically specialized her combat skills specifically for fighting demons, at the expense of being significantly less effective in fighting with humans, at least relative to her age. Because she really doesn’t want to fight with humans.
Sorry for the mean comments, I personally love these reactions and now when i watch the weekly episode and there is a wholesome moment i always think "oh my god Faroh's gonna love it" and can't wait to see your video so keep making it with your toughts and comments :3
Serie says the harshest things but her actions states otherwise. For example, while she was mocking flamme when she was out for a walk with frieren, she was showing this memory of her (flamme) running around smiling as a kid, which obviously she was fond of. She also tore flammes will/proposition but look at her now, overseeing this mage certification thingy. In this episode, funnily enough, she asked fern to become her student right after she stated that she shouldn’t take any human students again. Also, you can tell she loves flowers (or at least it has sentimental value to her). Anyway, she gives off a hard exterior but she clearly cares.
Ironically speaking, since Frieren is based around many Dungeons and Dragons tropes, but the spell that creates a field of flowers, Plant Growth, is far from useless. It´s simply not a spell made to do direct damage, which is a lot of people dont like it. Even in the show, that dude uses it to create plants for his metal petals ability.
In the manga, he doesn’t know that spell. Instead, he always carries a bouquet of flowers with him. The anime giving him that spell (or something similar) is one of the few small deviations the anime made from the source material. But it does foreshadow how the spell turns out to be much more impactful that it seems to be.
Yes! I agree on that perpsective of Serie, it hurts having human students. Everyone dies before reaching their potential and she is left with wasted affection.
I apologize if any comments i make are hurtful. They are not inteded as such and I will endeavor to be more careful about what I comment on on your channel in the future.
Honestly surprising to hear you getting hurtful comments over stuff like that. I feel like you pick up on a lot of the subtleties better than a lot of the other reactors I'm seeing. Namely with picking up on subtext and authorial intent with a lot of these scenes. Speaking as a content creator, I think the thing to keep in mind within the anime reaction niche is that a lot of the audience are young/not the most socially inclined. Obviously comments like that can be draining, so giving a bit of context to the source of the comment can often lessen the negative impact on your mentality. At least, it does for me. Either way, thanks for the reactions thus far.
Episode was perfect 👌🏻 Madhouse just seem to surprise me because this episode is so well done. And Fern is the only person in recent history, and perhaps ever, to noticed the fluctuations or instability in Serie's magic. She has so much potential that Serie had no choice but to pass her even after being rejected in favor of Frieren. That's just how amazing Fern is. Average Fren W all thanks to Frieren and don't forget our boy Land the Goat 🐐 🤣🤣 it caught be off guard too when I read the Manga that man is First class mage worthy. Thanks for your reaction
Don't mind the haters, people get weird with reactors. Love your reactions, very emotional and inquisitive. You remind me of my younger sister, it's endearing.
I suggest you dont pay attention to those comments, they're probably just kids who dont know any better about other peoples perspective yet. Anyhow, you are one of the reactors on this show I look forward to weekly because you pick up on things I didn't even pick up when I watch an episode. 😅 most of reacts I've seen didn't even consider that that series mana is not actually her mana, she's concealing most of it, what we see is just a drop of it 😅 and that's why Fern reaction is like awe and surprise - definitely not fear
I dont believe that Frieren doesnt understand emotions or people. She doesnt understand that she understands them. In the very first episode she cries because she didnt understand Himmel. But as we see in each and every episode with a Himmel flashback, she actually did. She may not have understood his feelings towards her, but she definitely knew him. Same for Flamme, Heiter and Eisen. She also understands Fren, Stark, Sein and others through her original party. She is wired to think she lacks the ability to know the people around her because of her past but like every flashback shows us, she at the very least understood her friends.
Saying Serie doesn't understand emotions is completely wrong, Serie is literally the God, freiren is very relatable to human or connected to human emotions but frieren is like a messiah but Serie is like a god that humans can't understand it, she understands everything she understands emotions but she just doesn't react to it, it doesn't control her She just ignore the emotions it doesn't effect her decision just like freiren said doesn't matter how she feels or what you say to her, her intuition is always right, her judgment is absolute, and if you live for thousands of years and yoh have to see everyone or everything you love die then human emotions is not useful it will only hurt you in that case it's good not to have emotions, so she doesn't need to learn anything, she is way above all of that
Serie is basically your "Asian parent". They acknowledge your accomplishments but that's never enough. They love you but will not say it to your face. 😂
Wish I could say not to mind comments, but that's easier said then done. I could be wrong, but I think the thing with Fern is that she just never got/gets the opportunity to learn how to handle her feelings and analyze others. Heiter was known to be very socially adept, so if anything, he kind of spoiled her. Now that he's gone and she's been traveling with Frieren, who's socially the total opposite, the learning transition has trouble sticking. Also, isn't she like 17?
I'm gonna take a little guess here, I never read the manga too, but the way Serie look at the flower when she said its a useless spell, makes me think shes the one who taught it to Flamme...
My head canon of the Demon King battle: At the end of their journey to the Demon King's castle Himmel, Heiter, Eisen and Frieren, after becoming stronger along the way, defeat the lackeys in the castle with ease. Upon facing the Demon King there is a fierce battle which leaves Himmel, Heiter and Eisen defeated but not dead. Frieren, facing the Demon King alone, uses two attacks before unleashing her final all-or-nothing attack which hurts the Demon King. However this leave the Demon King with the equivalent of HP 5 while Frieren has only HP 1 left. As the Demon King approaches Frieren for the kill suddenly his chest is pierced by a sword. While Frieren and the Demon King were battling. Himmel tells Heiter to used the last of his mana to heal Himmel and Eisen as best he can. Himmel then tells Eisen to picks him up and throws him like a spear towards the back of the Demon King. Himmel uses the last of his strength/power to pierce the weaken armor and heart of the Demon King landing on the floor behind the Demon King. Thus fulfilling his promise to defeat the Demon King and saving the woman he loves. The demons outside the castle hear/sense the death of the Demon King and leave either out of fear or their own personal interests. This leaves Frieren and her friends time to recover before returning to a hero's welcome.
Serie believes that magic should be special and that mages are just superior. The idea of being in a party with two-non casters, let alone one where a non-caster is the leader of the group, would be unthinkable to her.
Sorry to hear about the mean comments. Just do you, keep reacting you can’t please everybody, just ignore them, keep the criticism, any mean comments is a contributing to your algorithm. So best to just let them talk. You’re doing well, thanks.
I would have to disagree with you on fern being insensitive because of the staff as it is basically the memento left by heiter so it is normal for her to feel like that, imagine if you have a remembrance or something that someone left for you and someone destroyed it or stole it I'm simply implying the level of importance of the object
This manga has many hiatus. . . Because it is a deep work, it takes time for the author to think and create it. The next anime series will probably be in 3-4 years at the earliest🥲 I'm sad that I won't be able to meet Freelen😔
In my opinion, I don't think Fern is the next Flamme, she has the potential for it, but no ambition, Sirie must have had many first-class wizard students that she felt the same potential for, but in the end no type of same passion and ambition for magic as Flamme
a useless magic that ended up for bringing up the hero party together that eventually would defeat the demon king and bring peace to the world . a flower field spell saved the world
Serie and her student I guess will be explain next episode so I won't comment about it here but Serie does have so much mana that Frieren unsuppressed mana is equal to Serie suppressed mana
Suppressing mana and concealing mana is not the same thing. Trying to emmit as little mana as possible is far easier than trying to get it on like 20% all the time.
Lernen is a really cool chad, ima say he is the strongest human mage now being the first first class mage and all, the golem that he created can protect and heal you at the same time. That must been a heck of talent to possess and mind you he has been first class mage for half century now. That why i really intrigued when Serie said he could win against Frieren and i think there are possibility with all the knowledge that he had gained during those years being first class mage. And also happy Ramadhan to you Faroh, i know the feeling being walking corpse during the day cause i too looks like a zombie while fasting😂😂😂😂
Thank you all for being so so kind ❤
@xyx7663yeah it's confirmed that Serie was restricting her mana, and she has way more mana than Frieren. Because we know from the fight against Aura that your mana grows according to the time you spent training, and Serie is much MUCH older than Frieren (Serie comes from the mythical era), so that's why she has way more mana than Frieren. Also Lernen isn't the demon king, he's just a very skilled human mage, he's the strongest apprentice of Serie, he's so skilled that he could see through Frieren's fluctuations at first glance, but he still couldn't see through Serie's fluctuations, that shows how good Serie is in hiding her mana
The following is said and intended in kindness to help you find all of the threads you seem to be missing according to your commentary.
You will want to rewatch the season, especially around and before the episode frieren kills aura. Serie taught Flemme, Flemme taught Frieren. Flemme and Serie disagreed about Flemme going out and killing demons. Flemme taught Frieren immediately to hide her mana always. It seems to be an innate skill all magic users can use, like softening steps and controlling breathe when sneaking. Flemme took it to extremes to do it always and taught Frieren the same to trick demons. Serie probably had to do it to a lesser extent, though more than normal, to keep adversaries from tracking her down, and so friendlies wouldn't run in terror, but never to the point of extreme of Flemme and Frieren.
Serie chases magic for mastery and power. Her obsession rivals that of the demons, though her purpose is mastery and power but not so much to be dominant over others. She seeks to be her vision of a perfect mage with breadth and depth. Her pursuit is that of a passionate scholar. This can be seen in that she cannot turn away a student with potential, even if the student could one day possibly surpass her. She sees the simpler, direct, combat and deception focused practice of Flemme and Frieren as a waste of time and potential, an abuse of magic and the talent for it. She demonstrates human impatience because she seeks the shortest path to mastery of her craft, hiding away from all but talented mages and those with great potential , but doesn't enjoy the journey.
After Frieren became proficient, Flemme taught her the spell to make a field of flowers in part to help remind her that magic was more than a tool or weapon. That it could be used in many ways to enrich even small moments in people's lives. This re-ignited Frieren's passion for the possibilities of magic and pushed her to chase after the little spells hidden in obscure corners, something Flemme did as well. This was probably reinforced by all of the running around she did with Flemme, she learned that it wasn't just the magic, but the path you walked to learn it, the story behind a spell's creation, all valuable. Then to have her journey with Himmel really begin with just such a spell, though it took the rest of his life for her to learn, showed that it was that story and the people in it that tied all of magic together. The path taken, and not taken, the people walked with and fought against are the real magic; the spells are tools and weapons, the delights and sorrows, the colors and flavors of those quests and ultimately the very memories of those tales and people that will one day be forgotten. Now Frieren walks that lost path with Fern and Stark, both reliving a past she engaged less in than she wishes, while watching a new unfold in real time before her for the first time with her new companions.
Oops. Too many run-ons, and sorry for waxing poetic. Hope that makes sense / helps! Thanks for the content!
@@theghcu you babbled around for so long just to say Serie doesn't hide her mana as much as Frieren LOL. where did you even get this idea, this was NEVER mentioned. can we STOP with this idea that Frieren hides her mana in a more extreme way and Serie just does it in a low-key way because she likes to show off? PLEASE. frieren fanboys need to stop this copium. Serie is MUCH older than Frieren, and as we know it, mana grows according to the time you spent training, so OBVIOUSLY Serie has WAY MORE mana than Frieren. Serie is NOT hiding just a little, this would completely defeat the purpose of hiding your mana anyways, since the idea behind this technique is to be able to make your opponent severely underestimate you and catch them off-guard, so for this to work Serie MUST hide majority of her mana, otherwise it's pointless. Also, despite criticizing the technique, Serie has mastered it to such a level where she's even BETTER than frieren in hiding her mana, since Lernen was able to see through Frieren's fluctuations at the first glance but he couldn't see through Serie's fluctuations even after 50 years by her side.
@@boboyo3140 First, this is not intended to be an arguement, please don't read it that way.
1) faroh stated in the commentary of the video to the effect that she didn't know where or didn't think that the content explained where Frieren learned to suppress her mana to that extent. I pointed her in the direction of where in the narrative she could find what she missed as a viewer.
2) faroh's commentary indicated that she might not know the some of the causes of the friction between Serie and Frieren. I described some of those relationships and my understanding of the disagreements as presented so far, though I don't claim perfect understanding myself.
3) as presented, the amount of mana visible from frieren at the end of Flemme's life is not significantly different from that initially visible during the last fight with Aura. This would seem to indicate that the radius of emission does not necessarily grow the the total amount of mana. What might have represented 1/10th of Frierens mana in Flemme's time may represent far less than 10% in the present. The radius of emmision seems to change far less than the total mana, implying it is up to control rather than being correlated to total mana. Serie is definitely suppressing a much larger amount of mana than Frieren, but her radius of emission is much larger than Frieren's meaning either she is less interested in doing it and hasn't pushed it to it's limit or she actually has somewhat less control in this one aspect.
@@theghcu no, the mana when Frieren was suppressing down to 10% during her time with Flamme was MUCH smaller than the mana she was showing against Aura. Go read the manga chapter 21 and you'll be able to see. Frieren's mana when she was suppressing in the past with Flamme was so small that it was barely leaking out, but in her fight against Aura it had become much bigger already. Again, read the final pages of chapter 21, from the point where Flamme asks Frieren to control her mana down to 10% for the first time. Also, I already explained to you the reason why Serie's mana is still SO BIG despite her restriction. It's because Serie's mana is RIDICULOUSLY big, to the point where even her concealing it all the way down to 10%, she's still showing that much mana.
Now explaining her "disappointment" comments (both to Frieren and to her human students). First people need to understand this: Serie ADORES POTENTIAL. If she sees potential in anyone, she IS GONNA want to see this potential reach their limits. Ok now here we go:
1) Frieren: the reason why Serie really is petty with Frieren is bc she thinks Frieren is a wasted potential. Frieren literally spent CENTURIES supressing her mana walking in the forest, doing....nothing basically, while the humans were evolving. In Serie's mind, magic is to be used in wars, to fight. In Flamme and Frieren's minds, magic can also be used to bring happiness and beauty to the world (the flower field for example). So for Serie, Frieren is like a genius child that is playing with toys, while they could be doing so much more.
2) Her human students. First i need to clarify: Serie loves each of her students. She is just capping when she is harsh. So, the reason Serie keeps calling them a "disappointment" (and part of the reason she didn't want humans to learn magic) is bc it's also a wasted potential. In what sense, you ask? Well, this is related to their lifetime. In Sense's mind (and she is not wrong in this one) humans CAN NEVER reach their true potential, bc they die too soon. But even so she STILL takes human mages as her students. It's like if you want a 95 years old person to become the greatest professional in their area, for example....you simply have no expectations this person will even reach great achievements. That's why she only takes TRUE talented people as her students.
And i do think most people overlooked this: dude, Serie just said Lernen could possibly win against Frieren, like.....that's what i meant when i said she takes really talented people to teach.
Also, for people complaining why she failed so many people: if she had passed all of them, she'd basically sending them to their death. They would be allowed in places only first-class mages could reach, and then, if they didn't have enough skills, they could die. So in the end she's doing what she thinks it's right.
+1 on this. I Totally Agree! 100%
Correct on the first-class mage point. People do not understand what 1st classes have to do yet in this world and none of it is easy. You don't simply wear the title, you are tasked to extremely difficult missions from stealth to all out brawls with monstrosities and demons that are more powerful than what a typical mage would encounter. Serie is harsh because she cares, she doesn't want to see a bunch of people going to their death simply because she pleased them in giving a title that means nothing without the skill to back it up.
About point 1. Isn't that what Fern thinks too on episode 2? When she's sad because "Frieren is looking for something useless, instead of saving lots people"? 🤔
It's funny that in a twisted but also literal way, in the end a field of flowers killed the Demon Lord
One would think that she would know a spell to extend human lifespan to circumvent them from dying before reaching their potential, but apparently that spell doesn't exist or it is one of the few she doesn't know.
Serie: "Frieren, tell me your favorite spell."
Frieren turns back with smug face holding a purple bottle.
It's implied that Heiter taught Fern to supress her mana because he had seen Frieren do it and how useful it was and he learned it from her. Fern is so good at it because she's naturally gifted. As Serie said to her apprentices, doing it well requires natural talent or a couple of centuries of practice.
Yup, you got that one. Frieren's full mana = Serie's supressed mana LOL well...Serie IS the most close we have to a goddess after all. But i still think if Lernen really couldn't see the fluctuations in her mana, or if he simply didn't say anything about it
I don’t think Lernen saw any fluctuations in Serie’s mana because Lernen is her student for half a century if he saw anything he’d have told her long time ago, the reason he saw Frieren’s fluctuations is because he knows she is an elf so in his mind she gotta be at least same as Serie’s mana or a little bit lower than her. If that makes sense.
Recall when Fern demonstrated Frieren’s weakness, Denken wondered why he didn’t notice it when they fought, and then said it was because he never expected such a rookie level weakness in a mage of Frieren’s caliber and so wasn’t looking for such a thing. A similar dynamic could be at play here. Lernen never expected that Serie would ever have need or reason to suppress her mana, and so never really thought to look for it.
The manga is pretty explicit that Lernen's mana detection is below Fern's ability, and that was her other disappointment about him. Interestingly, she doesn't say that the Lernen's face because she was hoping over all those years he would realize it.
@@erenyeager836it's a valid argument but I think he was able to see through Frieren's fluctuations simply because he's very skilled, and he wasn't able to see through Serie's fluctuations because she hides it better than Frieren.
@@cokecan6169 who knows what? I never recall in the manga that Lerner can see the fluctuation in Serie mana
Ngl Faroh i'm actually surprised you didn't went on a rant when Serie started to talk all those things 😂 bc i've seen a lot of...let's say..."emotional" people simply hating on her like crazy.
I feel like people don't try to understand Serie's character correctly. She is a little difficult to get, but when you let her words aside and look at her actions, you get it:
First of all, i love Serie's pettiness🤣. But anyway. Serie is a big tsundere. Let's analyze this calmly:
*she said she trained Flamme on whim, but still went on a walk with Frieren just remembering Flamme
*she said she wouldn't carry Flamme's will, but she LITERALLY created the magic association
*she says it was a waste of time repressing her mana, but she still do it anyway
*she said she doesn't like to take human students, but she still remembers every single one of them (Flamme, Sense, Lernen) and even how each of them behave
*she calls the flower field spell "useless" while in a room full of flowers (cause she obviously liked Flamme)
Serie is not that bad like she herself wants to appear LOL
When Fern noticed the fluctuation in her mana, Serie was so excited, she subconsciously caressed the flowers ... so who's the big flower-lover here huh?
I’d bet money that Serie straight up MADE the flowers in her little greenhouse using Flamme’s spell, which she has been secretly casting every day, even as she tells everyone and anyone who cares to listen that it is “useless”.
@@adamwu4565 it's Serie spell, not Flamme.
I mentioned this in another video, but
Serie is Frieren in a world where Frieren never had Himmel. She's Frieren's foil, so of course she's this way.
Also, she tried to recruit Fern even after she said she didn't want to take human students.
Frieren's wording when talking to Himmel is interesting. She says "there are plenty of mages in the Holy City, it didn't have to be me." To which he responds "I wanted you."
It reminds me of her conversation with Fern on top of the flower tower when she asks Fern if she loves magic. Fern says she could have chosen any profession, "it didn't have to be magic." To which Frieren responds "but you chose magic."
Faroh, I'm sorry some people are not letting you have your own thoughts and are over explaining things. I really enjoy your reactions and thoughts, please don't let any rude comments discourage you.
Maybe she dies can't control her strength so she has supress it I guess
Serie is just like a tough super-grandma. She is upset with her overachieving "daughter" Flamme not having visited her in life but left a bunch of obligations for her to fulfill at her death. And she's upset with her "granddaughter" Frieren for having potential to be great at school if she only studied harder, but wanting to just chill and hang out with tattooed bikers. But she loved them anyway. She loved all of them. You will see in the next episode.
Even Lernen (she called her "that boy," like she called Flamme "that girl" - she called all humans "those children"), she was only giving him the tiger-mom passive-aggressive "push" by expressing disappointment for the child to be shamed into performing better. Yes you're right she wanted him to be more courageous and stop being timid and humble, traits she dislikes - and in the next episode you will see that she's successful in that.
You are again correct that she expected Frieren to be strong enough to solo the Demon King. Although Frieren did anyway, Serie saw it as more trick than skill, and Frieren's trick didn't work against the big boss, and she had to do it with a party; that's why Serie remained disappointed in her. The final interview question was like "one more chance: do you promise to study hard now" with an answer of "no I like hanging out with bikers they're cool YOLO."
the first first-class mage Lernen who had been training under Serie for over half a century could never notice that she was concealing her mana. he was skilled enough to see Frieren’s instability, but not Serie. Fern being able to see Serie’s instability shows that she was born with innate talent and has Flamme level potential, or even greater..
“i can take you to heights never reached before by a mage”
“Never before reached by any mage” suggests Serie thinks Fern’s potential is GREATER than Flamme’s, not just equal to.
Hell, “any mage” could even include Serie herself, with Serie thinking that Fern might even have the potential to accomplish something in magic that even Serie herself has not and can not.
I love your reactions, you make good points and observations!
I like that you noticed that serie is also supressing her mana, so her supressed mana would be equal to frieren's unsupressed mana
and also the part of the flower field spell, you noticed before they explained with details
Just like the City barriers Flamme built.
Flammes influence continues to shape humanity's destiny.
From the ever-powerful city barriers to a spell as simple as creating a field of flowers 😇
She is truly a Legendary Mage. 😇
Honestly, people just have a natural desire to correct someone if they know they're wrong, and a few people are just less mature and understanding when they do so. Don't let it get to you.
I think most of the people who watch your reactions are just happy to see your reaction and listen to your takes, even if they don't agree with your takes.
I watch these reaction videos because I want to see what other people think after all.
I watch her because i get the feeling im watching for the first time again :P it's satisfying.
She's like a 20 year old in Elf years. She's young. Mind you, it's *heavily* hinted at that Serie has been around since before the rise of *Human Civilization* Remember she tells Frieren that they're functionally immortal. And we remember that Kraft's so old that no one remembers his statue, or his name anymore and Serie makes *Kraft* look young.
Feel bad for Serie when she said she wanted to stop taking on human students. Must be frustrating for her to watch people get strong and never fully reach their potential. But she's been doing it for so long lol, I mean she was Flamme's master.
I think Kraft is older? Idk just based on his eyebags he looks like he would be in his equivalent of like "mid thirties". Meanwhile Serie looks 15 yo's
@@buildinasentry1046 No, Kraft is old but Serie is much, much older. She just hasn't had the wear and tear Kraft has.
i believe it was serie on the mural in the dungeon at the kings side. and that was apparently a VERY long time ago.
@@faresty7279 You having a clown avatar is fitting. It's called context clues. Maybe when you up your reading comprehension you can respond better next time.
Note that the anime has introduced a contrast: when Fern was upset with Frieren at the beginning of the episode, Richter asked her whether she was Frieren's student and she was silent and Stark had to answer for her. But after Frieren fixed her staff and she realized Frieren really cared for her, she said to Serie loud and proud that she was Frieren's student.
keep up the good work! i enjoy your vids so much because i have no one to share my interests with, its like i can watch those animes with someone together. it feels very wholesome for me. thank you so much.
i appreciate you so much! thank you so much for your kindness
I will never understand these harsh comments omg :D You said it countless times that you are only anime watcher and people still cant understand it... I'm also only watching anime just like you and i really LOVE your emotional first time watcher reactions, my favourite reaction channel by far, its not close!
"Frieren won't hold a grudge".
Try calling her an "old hag" and see what happens.
Serie: Training magic for humans is useless, learning flower magic is useless, and suppressing mana is useless.
Also Serie: Does all of the above.
She trains and remembers all of her apprentices, she has a flower garden specifically made from magic, and she has been suppressing her mana this whole time.
Serie: "I shouldn't take a human as my student"
*Few moments later*
"Fern be my student" 😂
I think it was implied that Heiter taught Fern how to suppress her mana, in episode 11, and even some basic magic that you could learn from textbooks or grimoires (Zoltraak, the butterflies ...)
It's sad that you are getting mean comments, I love your videos
Im sorry you had to deal with all those comments, hopefully that didnt sucked all the fun from the show
Im excited to see your reactions to this show every week, sometimes you are the one who picks up on thinks i didnt so its really fun
aww i appreciate you
Denken is hilarious trying to be supportive while socially awkward lol. Just stacks things in Richter's store only to leave without buying anything.
my man is so strong but so clueless 💀
You see Ferns quick spell casting ability when she said "What? No" 😅😅😅
I dont wish to experience rejection in the speed of light. I DONT ENVY SERIE 🤣🤣🤣
One thing to add: the “useless” spell also saves the world. Without it, Frieren and her party never join together. As Frieren says, the demon king is only beaten with all of them together. In fact, the technique Flamme teaches Frieren for vengeance, mana suppression, doesn’t even work on him. Instead, flower magic, the only peaceful spell Flamme teaches to Frieren, leads to the demon king’s ultimate defeat. It’s is not hate that brings forth a peaceful era but love.
I think it was heiter who trained or maybe told fern to conceal her mana. if you can remember from other episodes. there's a flashback with heiter telling frieren about heiter having a child in the future and told frieren that he knows that frieren is supressing her mana and that is a worthy of praising. in that case maybe it is heiter who teaches fern to supress her mana. frieren was surprised heiter knows that and when frieren first met fern she immediately noticed that fern is somewhat invisible and can suppress her mana at a very young age really well.
Note that when Himmel said "it was beautiful" he was looking up, not down. He was not commenting about the flowers.
Nah but Denken is the true demon king for not buying anything from the store, and just moving things around 😂😂
I dig your reactions to frieren, i watch the show then i usually watch your impressions and for the most part i feel like you have been pretty spot on with things at first glance. Dont let the bad actors get you down i think you are awesome!
Indeed it seems that Serie's mana compressed is roughly the same intensity as Frieren's uncompressed. You are the first reaction of far too many I have watched where that was noticed and comented on. Serie is also more skilled at hiding her mana... How long do you think she's been doing that?
Remember from when they first arrived in the mage city before the exam started (just before the much memed Fern’s chest blocking out half the sky scene), Frieren actually hinted that she didn’t need to/want to take the First Class Mage Exam at all, and that only Fern passing would be enough for their purposes?
Frieren only relented and agreed to take the test too when Fern said she didn’t think she could pass.
So basically Frieren entered the exam purely to provide reassurance for Fern, and had not cared from the beginning about her own passing or failing. And she basically treated the whole exam as a chance to have fun and meet new people.
11:57 What the hell you have a photographic memory 😳 I had to go back and watch episode 18 to verify that Lernen was the same old guy who recognized Frieren's holy emblem (and he's also the one who created the emergency escape golems!)
The implied lethality of the normal third test puts Sense’s reputation for not allowing anyone to pass in a new context. She makes the second test so incredibly difficult to make as certain as she can that only those who are capable of surviving the third test will actually get through.
Your reactions are soo genuine and I felt the same when watched this first time, which is why I am watching your reaction videos, good and honest. Just don't let the hate comments get to you.
Thank you so much 😄
24:44 "we don't need another 1st class mage in the party"
Another way to put it is in Himmel's words, just like they said they don't need a holy emblem (necklace) to know that Frieren is an incredible mage -
"we don't need Frieren to be classified as a 1st class mage to know how good of a mage she is" 😭
Idk if this is confirmed or not but there are context clues that heiter taught fern to conceal her mana. From what I vaguely remember when heiter was talking to frieren about finding out frieren was only concealing her mana, heiter said he might want to teach his future kids that technique if he might have
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i just wanna say i love how you make intelligent guesses on the show you react
Aww thank you so much 🩷
i love how Denken came through this series and just adopted Laufen and Richter as his grandkids in some way lmao
The last time Frieren upset Fern with her emotional obliviousness, she spent like half the episode confused as to why Fern was upset at all. This time, though she still didn’t get the emotional connection beforehand, the moment Fern got upset, she understood immediately why, and immediately set out to make it right. This is progress. Subtle, but substantial, character development.
Also, Stark seems to have leveled up in emotional maturity too.
The way you go about asking questions about the series and analyzing moments is really impressive. A really good mix of empathy and critical thinking that I don't see with other reactor's. Keep doing what you do, don't let a bunch of weebs get you down lmao
i love your reactions and raw emotion - I think you nailed a lot this episode. appreciate you so much
Frieren is probably a teenager in elf terms yeah. She was a child when Flamme found her and when she met Serie she looked about the same as she does now, that probably shows that Serie was already an adult by that point and has been around for a lot longer. the elf females we have met are both short and petite but just from their faces and voices you can tell there is supposed to be a big age difference between them.
6:08 they did not know eachother before the exam but Denken basicly adopted her as a granddaughter (which i think is really sweet since Denken's wife died and he had no kids and grandkids but he sees what they could be in Richter and Laufen)
There is an omake where Frieren remembers and said "I remember now! So you were the KID from back then." Himmel dejectedly replied "Isn't that a little harsh?".
To her, the qualification of being a first-class wizard is just one thing that doesn't matter.
Note that whoever becomes a first class mage will have access to the Northernmost Region where a lot of Fighting with Demons is still on going. So failing them also means she's making sure they won't be able to go their and possibly lose their lives.
I think Serie feels lonely at the top of magic and wants her aprentices to catch up to her or surpass her, and that is why she feels disapointed, cause when they are getting close to her, they die of old age before ever catching up. That is also why she is mad at Frieren cause she has the talent and the lifespan to catch up to her but lacks the ambition to do it.
Serie was disappointed Lernen wasn't more ambitious.
You mean Lernen?
@@JustJDx yes indeed, corrected.
Serie is literally the level of what you would call a God Mage. Frieren would stand no chance in defeating her, no mage honestly could, however in this series it's not always about who has more power but about who can visualize themselves winning, it's really about belief in ones self and spirit of determination. Serie is powerful in many aspects of a mage and Frieren is powerful in learning the aspects of humanity where Serie can't see what's so good about it. Just like the Demon king, Serie could lose to a well coordinated attack and team, even if she is a walking cataclysm.
Frieren's words, not mine: "even i can't picture myself beating her at all. There is no doubt she reigns supreme over all human mages of this era. She is beyond human's comprehension". I honestly don't know why people think Serie is afraid of humans or even that anyone could even reach her level tbh. No, Frieren could not beat her at all. Serie is, at the moment, the most powerful character in the series after the goddess herself.
@@JoshuaGrimes-dz4wy I wanted to make this less spoiler for others so spoiler warning for below:
1v1 Serie beats all, but if you're caught up to the manga as it seems you are, a skilled warrior and a coordinated attack could pose a threat to her. It's something I enjoy in this series about checks and balances to power. The demon king was to demons a force that could never be defeated and yet he was, Serie can die to a blade puncturing her heart as anyone else, it's just she has measures to prevent such a thing from happening, if she were caught off guard by someone extremely skilled, which for warriors in this world can be obtained in a humans life time, then she would be in danger, The hero of the south was the stronger of the two heroes when it came to Himmel and him yet he died and knew he was going to, he knew Himmel would be the one to defeat the Demon king instead, this is just again the author showing us how being the strongest isn't always the end. I wouldn't say Serie is afraid of humans, she wouldn't work so heavily with them if she were and she'd certainly not care for mages dying if she hated or feared humans. She simply wants talent that wishes to sore to extreme heights.
I think Heiter taught her how to conceal her mana. He was with Frieren for the whole 10 years and knew about it, so I think he passed that on.
Maybe Heiter might not actually taugh but gaving Fern the concept of hiding her mana and Fern is a smart kid pratically try doing on herself.
Caz an ep recalled that Heiter knew Friern hide her mana and told her to tell about herself as it might be useful if he would had a kid in future
Hiding your mana is a subset of what's called mana control. According to Frieren, mana control is the hardest thing to master for mage students. The fact that Fern had excellent mana control when she was just 8 years old shows her unfathomable talent.
The flowers were always my favorite part of this show
haha "cant wait for my - little himmel - moment" thats some foreshadowing there
Foreshadowing what? Id get it
Ironic how she says a spell that creates flowers is so useless but has a room full of flowers 😂
I think what Serie means when she calls Frieren’s mana suppression “inefficient” is in terms of combat utility against general opposition (ie not demons). Because demons are naturally much more sensitive to mana than pretty much everyone else, you have to much better at mana concealment to fool them. But you don’t need to be that good at it to use it to fool anything else in the heat of combat. So instead of spending centuries perfecting the ability, you could just train at it for a few years, and spend the rest of your time getting better at other types of magic.
This recalls the difference between Serie and Frieren, ie that Serie is a warmonger and Frieren is a mage for a peaceful era. Serie values general combat utility. For her, magic is a weapon for fighting, anything and everything. Frieren, however, only really wants to fight demons. She only cares about combat magic inasmuch as it is useful/needed for fighting demons. So she basically specialized her combat skills specifically for fighting demons, at the expense of being significantly less effective in fighting with humans, at least relative to her age. Because she really doesn’t want to fight with humans.
Sorry for the mean comments, I personally love these reactions and now when i watch the weekly episode and there is a wholesome moment i always think "oh my god Faroh's gonna love it" and can't wait to see your video so keep making it with your toughts and comments :3
Serie says the harshest things but her actions states otherwise. For example, while she was mocking flamme when she was out for a walk with frieren, she was showing this memory of her (flamme) running around smiling as a kid, which obviously she was fond of. She also tore flammes will/proposition but look at her now, overseeing this mage certification thingy. In this episode, funnily enough, she asked fern to become her student right after she stated that she shouldn’t take any human students again. Also, you can tell she loves flowers (or at least it has sentimental value to her). Anyway, she gives off a hard exterior but she clearly cares.
ゼーリエは寂しいのです
彼女は弟子たちをすごく愛していますが、彼らはゼーリエより長生きすることができません
ゼーリエのお気に入りはフランメです
フランメは少ない人生でゼーリエを超える成果を残した
ゼーリエはくだらないと言った花畑の魔法を実は愛しており温室いっぱいに魔法で作った花を育て愛でています
不器用なツンデレ
Ramadhan Kareem, Faroh. I enjoy watching your frieren react video. Also, Serie is just being tsundere. 😂
Ironically speaking, since Frieren is based around many Dungeons and Dragons tropes, but the spell that creates a field of flowers, Plant Growth, is far from useless.
It´s simply not a spell made to do direct damage, which is a lot of people dont like it.
Even in the show, that dude uses it to create plants for his metal petals ability.
In the manga, he doesn’t know that spell. Instead, he always carries a bouquet of flowers with him. The anime giving him that spell (or something similar) is one of the few small deviations the anime made from the source material. But it does foreshadow how the spell turns out to be much more impactful that it seems to be.
11:56 he's also the dude who made the golems from the second exam
I personally love watching your reactions! I do know some manga stuff, but I wanna see it visually animated
Yes! I agree on that perpsective of Serie, it hurts having human students. Everyone dies before reaching their potential and she is left with wasted affection.
I apologize if any comments i make are hurtful. They are not inteded as such and I will endeavor to be more careful about what I comment on on your channel in the future.
Honestly surprising to hear you getting hurtful comments over stuff like that. I feel like you pick up on a lot of the subtleties better than a lot of the other reactors I'm seeing. Namely with picking up on subtext and authorial intent with a lot of these scenes. Speaking as a content creator, I think the thing to keep in mind within the anime reaction niche is that a lot of the audience are young/not the most socially inclined. Obviously comments like that can be draining, so giving a bit of context to the source of the comment can often lessen the negative impact on your mentality. At least, it does for me. Either way, thanks for the reactions thus far.
Episode was perfect 👌🏻 Madhouse just seem to surprise me because this episode is so well done. And Fern is the only person in recent history, and perhaps ever, to noticed the fluctuations or instability in Serie's magic. She has so much potential that Serie had no choice but to pass her even after being rejected in favor of Frieren. That's just how amazing Fern is. Average Fren W all thanks to Frieren and don't forget our boy Land the Goat 🐐 🤣🤣 it caught be off guard too when I read the Manga that man is First class mage worthy. Thanks for your reaction
Don't mind the haters, people get weird with reactors. Love your reactions, very emotional and inquisitive. You remind me of my younger sister, it's endearing.
I suggest you dont pay attention to those comments,
they're probably just kids who dont know any better about other peoples perspective yet.
Anyhow, you are one of the reactors on this show I look forward to weekly because you pick up on things I didn't even pick up when I watch an episode. 😅
most of reacts I've seen didn't even consider that that series mana is not actually her mana, she's concealing most of it, what we see is just a drop of it 😅 and that's why Fern reaction is like awe and surprise - definitely not fear
Worth of life is not profit or loss or efficiency. Even if it looks stupid or meaningless, there sure is a treasure in it.
I dont believe that Frieren doesnt understand emotions or people. She doesnt understand that she understands them.
In the very first episode she cries because she didnt understand Himmel. But as we see in each and every episode with a Himmel flashback, she actually did. She may not have understood his feelings towards her, but she definitely knew him. Same for Flamme, Heiter and Eisen.
She also understands Fren, Stark, Sein and others through her original party.
She is wired to think she lacks the ability to know the people around her because of her past but like every flashback shows us, she at the very least understood her friends.
Saying Serie doesn't understand emotions is completely wrong, Serie is literally the God, freiren is very relatable to human or connected to human emotions but frieren is like a messiah but Serie is like a god that humans can't understand it, she understands everything she understands emotions but she just doesn't react to it, it doesn't control her
She just ignore the emotions it doesn't effect her decision just like freiren said doesn't matter how she feels or what you say to her, her intuition is always right, her judgment is absolute, and if you live for thousands of years and yoh have to see everyone or everything you love die then human emotions is not useful it will only hurt you in that case it's good not to have emotions, so she doesn't need to learn anything, she is way above all of that
The flower spell defeated the demon King
Notiii Gangggg Letsgoooo 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Serie is basically your "Asian parent". They acknowledge your accomplishments but that's never enough. They love you but will not say it to your face. 😂
She said "Little Himmel" 06:51.... 🤣🤣🤣
Such a beautiful episode, gonna miss this series when it’s done 😭
Wish I could say not to mind comments, but that's easier said then done.
I could be wrong, but I think the thing with Fern is that she just never got/gets the opportunity to learn how to handle her feelings and analyze others. Heiter was known to be very socially adept, so if anything, he kind of spoiled her. Now that he's gone and she's been traveling with Frieren, who's socially the total opposite, the learning transition has trouble sticking. Also, isn't she like 17?
I'm gonna take a little guess here, I never read the manga too, but the way Serie look at the flower when she said its a useless spell, makes me think shes the one who taught it to Flamme...
I need more scenes of when Heiter gave Fren that staff.
Serie is truly a boss babe 🤣🤣🤣
Great Reaction!
Good Luck on the Fasting lol
Thank you!! 😁
My head canon of the Demon King battle: At the end of their journey to the Demon King's castle Himmel, Heiter, Eisen and Frieren, after becoming stronger along the way, defeat the lackeys in the castle with ease. Upon facing the Demon King there is a fierce battle which leaves Himmel, Heiter and Eisen defeated but not dead. Frieren, facing the Demon King alone, uses two attacks before unleashing her final all-or-nothing attack which hurts the Demon King. However this leave the Demon King with the equivalent of HP 5 while Frieren has only HP 1 left. As the Demon King approaches Frieren for the kill suddenly his chest is pierced by a sword. While Frieren and the Demon King were battling. Himmel tells Heiter to used the last of his mana to heal Himmel and Eisen as best he can. Himmel then tells Eisen to picks him up and throws him like a spear towards the back of the Demon King. Himmel uses the last of his strength/power to pierce the weaken armor and heart of the Demon King landing on the floor behind the Demon King. Thus fulfilling his promise to defeat the Demon King and saving the woman he loves. The demons outside the castle hear/sense the death of the Demon King and leave either out of fear or their own personal interests. This leaves Frieren and her friends time to recover before returning to a hero's welcome.
Serie believes that magic should be special and that mages are just superior. The idea of being in a party with two-non casters, let alone one where a non-caster is the leader of the group, would be unthinkable to her.
just letting you know that the this is episode 27 not 26!
Sorry to hear about the mean comments. Just do you, keep reacting you can’t please everybody, just ignore them, keep the criticism, any mean comments is a contributing to your algorithm. So best to just let them talk. You’re doing well, thanks.
I would have to disagree with you on fern being insensitive because of the staff as it is basically the memento left by heiter so it is normal for her to feel like that, imagine if you have a remembrance or something that someone left for you and someone destroyed it or stole it I'm simply implying the level of importance of the object
Serie is Frieren's asiam grandma. Still dissapointed she didn't become a doctor or lawyer lol
This manga has many hiatus. . .
Because it is a deep work, it takes time for the author to think and create it.
The next anime series will probably be in 3-4 years at the earliest🥲
I'm sad that I won't be able to meet Freelen😔
In my opinion, I don't think Fern is the next Flamme, she has the potential for it, but no ambition, Sirie must have had many first-class wizard students that she felt the same potential for, but in the end no type of same passion and ambition for magic as Flamme
support for you ❤
Id love to see you react to "The ancient magus' bride" its a fantasy slice of life like frieren and has a similar vibe, love your channel!
I love your reactions of this anime
a useless magic that ended up for bringing up the hero party together that eventually would defeat the demon king and bring peace to the world . a flower field spell saved the world
Serie and her student I guess will be explain next episode so I won't comment about it here but Serie does have so much mana that Frieren unsuppressed mana is equal to Serie suppressed mana
Frieren is on NG+, Serie is Max lvl. Huge difference.
Suppressing mana and concealing mana is not the same thing. Trying to emmit as little mana as possible is far easier than trying to get it on like 20% all the time.
Lernen is a really cool chad, ima say he is the strongest human mage now being the first first class mage and all, the golem that he created can protect and heal you at the same time. That must been a heck of talent to possess and mind you he has been first class mage for half century now. That why i really intrigued when Serie said he could win against Frieren and i think there are possibility with all the knowledge that he had gained during those years being first class mage. And also happy Ramadhan to you Faroh, i know the feeling being walking corpse during the day cause i too looks like a zombie while fasting😂😂😂😂
So basically that flower spell defeated the demon king
Ignore the mean comments, this is your space just block them 🖤