Update! I spoke with John from DF regarding the LOD having been reduced, and this appears to be a bug. I still have to test this but supposedly this might be related to having the game installed on a secondary m.2 instead of the default storage on PS5. If so, I'll forward this info to insomniac for a possible fix. Good morning everyone! Glad to finally get this video out - I've been sick the past 3 weeks now which has made it difficult to record my voice and concentrate on editing. The game is fantastic and was a nice distraction. This was also an interesting video to put together. I've got hundreds of clips recorded here that I couldn't fit in, so there's a lot more to see! Stay tuned for more content in the near future :)
One of the most incredible sound design choices, MINOR SPOILER: As Peter becomes consumed by the symbiote, the sounds of the city become muted. It's very eerie, and so well executed.
I feel like these compromises in certain areas were absolutely worth it, especially considering how they were able to get raytracing running on the performance mode
@@midarch Nah that isn't true. RT was added to the remastered version which is not available on PS4. The "first game" denotes the original Spider-Man PS4.
@@tsg712-t7e a remaster does not change the fact that its the first spiderman game by insomniac, and there is a mode on that game that has ray tracing on at 60fps. furthermore, if we contextualize ourselves with the video it would make much more sense that im refferring to the ps5 update.
I think you can truly feel the difference only when they're side by side but that's not a bad thing, it just speaks to how good the first one was made. Edit: for people saying it’s a bad thing guys we will never see that big of a leap in graphics anymore between generations. We’re already at almost photorealistic levels so of course now only small details will improve
@@collieee2957 I guess, but why this factor? She wasn't even in her mid 20's lol. Peter stayed the same as well as Miles. But MJ aged 10 years. Looks like a soccer Mom in her MID 20's.
Damn the time of day being fixed seems like a huge oversight. In Miles you could even control the weather. They need to bring that back in an update, especially now that they've improved the nighttime look so much.
You probably get this a lot but I really appreciate the professionalism and attention-to-detail as you meticulously go through everything the game has to offer. Just a question from me as this is a little concern I had with the game - how did you find the overall pacing and length of the narrative, did it feel rushed or was there enough time to explore the content of the plot?
Pacing and narrative felt great. I never felt bored with the story but also felt like I was given plenty of opportunities to screw around and explore New York between missions without it feeling out of place. It's overall very well done. I think the story plays it safe, as did the first game (probably because they're limited in what they're actually allowed to do with licensed characters like this), but it's way better than most of the marvel movies lately.
@@SILK97 For me personally it came from the knowledge of the length of the game. I heard the game was around 15-20 hours to beat which is on it's own not a bad thing and is similar to the length of the first game. However, this game seems significantly bigger than the first game with the amount of plot points and characters it has introduced and continnued from the first game - therefore, I thought trying to fit more into the same amount of time might lead to the game feeling rushed to an extent.
great video as always nick! one thing i don’t see too many people point out is your natural ability to pick up and play any game with lots of confidence and competence! it makes every direct comparison and review that much better!
The version showing on the screen is sometimes displayed incorrectly. E.g. at 14:10 you are clearly showing Spiderman Remastered, and at 14:14 you switch to Spiderman 2, but the version in both does not change (it is Spiderman 2 through both scenes).
Whoops. Happens sometimes. Should be obvious to anyone still based on what im saying. I was coughing up a lung while editing so it was harder to focus than usual
I finished the game, did all the side quests, unlocked all the upgrades, and I'm overall very satisfied with the game. The series is starting to feel a bit formulaic now, but it's still a lot of fun. I look forward to where the series will take us in future installments. I just hope they don't go the multiverse route. We've been getting plenty of that with No Way Home and the Spider-Verse movies. There's plenty more you can do in THIS universe without having to resort to travelling through the multiverse. It seems like the Green Goblin will likely be a big antagonist of the next game. Maybe he'll even merge with the red symbiote and become the Red Goblin.
@@SMthegamer1 for you, maybe, for others its great to have a choice of what time of day they would like to play at, personally love how the game looks at night, it was killing me that it was stuck in day time. though it would be nice to have an option for natural day/night cycle too.
@@nightwing6287 Sorry I should have gone into more detail, I'm not saying there shouldn't be an option to manually switch, it's something I use heavily in games that implement the feature for photo mode and it was sorely missed in my Platinum Spider-Man 2 playthrough. I'm saying by default there should be a natural cycle, with the manual option being something the player chooses to use similar to the first game (never actually checked if it was in Miles' game) but is not required to change it at all.
@Nick930 A comparison of the 2005 King Kong movie game to the newly released and highly derided Skull Island: Rise of Kong game would be interesting to see.
Rise of kong was graphicaly made the way it is on purpose which is clear to see so comparing graphics is pointless tbf but gameplay wise 2005 king kong slays easily
27:20 about the suits… in the previous game you can use any suit ability on any suit. So for example if I want the Iron Spider tendrils on the 2099 suit you can do that Spider-Man 2018 as well as Miles Morales.
Particularly when the building is in the first game but they already took it out in miles morales still a dumb decision whoever decided this is a money hungry greedy a hole and can Rott in hell
You may not have the deep technical know-how of Digital Foundry (which can always be learned). But your sharp eyes for details are often more impressive than DF. This comparison series has become more and more refined and professional as a result of your efforts. Dare I say it's actually a must-watch for any graphics-conscious player. Thanks for making these, great stuff.
Another detail that you didnt seem to mention, it appears there are also more new car models (only saw 3) and some new and overhauled boat and ship models in the waters surrounding the city.
Great work! I'm still hoping for Fallout 4 comparison to Starfield. I would really like to see your deep dive into those improvements if there are any.
@@aepallenp I'm aware of that. Nick has done comparisons like that in the past. Like Call of Duty comparison to Battlefield or Quantum break against Control, which is very much the same type of comparison, different game but same developer.
@16:10 a rat floating in mid air while running around 😂 funny how he didn't even bother to mention all the bugs. Especially when I seen quite a few while watching his gameplay.
LOD distance really seems to be a bug. It looks a lot better when I'm playing. And my first impression starting the game was that when looking over the city or swinging/flying high, it looks much more detailed and varied in the distance than before.
Maybe. My first thought was that the downgrades allowed for faster loading. When you fast travel, switch Spider-Men, get thrown half-way across the map by the Sandman, etc, the game covers a huge distance with no loading screens or stutters.
when I pre ordered the game I realized I was not gonna see the wonders of how the game would look at 4k so I actually bought a monitor to play the game at 4k with hdr just so I could actually everything in all its glory. This video (and the video about the remaster and the original spiderman) makes me appreciate getting the higher end monitor and not just settling for my regular 1080p monitor.
They changed the anisotropy on the default suit to be more like the pre-release suit from the first game. The anisotropy made more sense on that pre-release suit because of the ridged texture pattern of the material. When they changed the pattern to hex shapes, the specular highlights bent in multiple directions, resulting in the more even lighting we saw in the release version of the default suit from the first game. I guess they just decided they preferred a silkier shine on top of the hex pattern this time around.
I think they both look amazing. But if I'm to be honest, I actually think the Remastered looks better. Maybe it's just because I'm on a phone, but the only real pro that sticks out with 2 is that it's lighting is far more natural.
The lighting in the remastered is superrrrr hit and miss. Looks great in interiors but if there’s sun anywhere, the whole game is darkened in a botched way
honestly same which sucks as they have downgraded buildings from far away which is what you'll mostly be seeing when traveling/swinging, like at 16:43 one of the best views in the last game looks empty and low quality now
I have been waiting for this games release for 5-6 years now and will be able to get the game on the 3rd of November, the hardest part is going to be not looking at gameplay footage of the game to not have any major spoilers and I really do hope that Spider-Man 2 wins game of the year
Realistically, it would probably be Baldur's Gate 3 but does it matter if it wins or not? I would be happy if it got nominated but it ain't gonna be GOTY I think.
@@kaushikkv8423 And the Sandman battle. THe Ps4 wouldn't be able to handle it. As well as the transition between characters. The harddrive of the Ps4 would explode.
I may be wrong but in Suit comparison I think its a minor detail, Spider man 1 original suit color is more vibrant than Spider man 2 meaning the color fades away over time, due to laundry and less texture due to lint damage fabric problems etc lol Peter needs a 2.0 suit also from a practical perspective just a theory
They ruined Mj for me she looks like Peters aunt and overall she looks less pretty the Modell of the first game was perfect for me. Kinda weird that western devs try their best these days to make women as ugly as possible
100% true, all of a sudden Western Studios are making women in video-games to be ugly af, while Eastern Studios are still portraying them as beautiful as ever, no wonder that there is a rise of popularity of eastern studios games, while western ones are slowly fading away since "certain" agenda is being pushed down our throats. They totally ruined MJ, just like you said, she was literally perfect in first game.
They wrecked MJ on purpose. It's the same thing we've seen with most games now. Give the women broad shoulders, wider jawlines, no makeup, and clothes that are much less revealing. It fits with he current narrative of making women in entertainment look like men. We've all see the memes and side by sides, so there's no need for debate. In the case of MJ, it's so jarring, that there's no way to deny the changes. Nor excuse them. Regardless of the character's age up. Nonetheless, the game does look good, but as Nick points out, there are weird compromises for the larger map. I don't need a larger map or more checklists. I need a game that's tighter and has meaningful questing. I long for the days of Fallout New Vegas or more recently The Witcher 3. Most who have gotten their hands on this game have noted that the new areas to explore don't add anything to it. And judging by the trade offs, it would seem to be the case. I'll still play the game for the experience, but as with most AAA games nowadays, bigger doesn't always mean better.
You compared Spider-Man, an open world action adventure game, to two RPGs. It’s like being annoyed that Assassin’s creed 3 doesn’t have as many quests as Skyrim.
Great side-by-side comparison, Nick, you covered almost everything. Insomniac did a fantastic job with Spider-Man 2, not only improving the general visuals (Ray Tracing in all modes) but also keeping the revisit of New York interesting thanks to culling the more boring aspects (like car chases or obligatory random encounters) and adding new features, both in combat but even more so in traversal. When you experience the full powered web suit for the first time it's almost breathtaking at which speed you rush across New York while the engine keeps up those FPS. Sure it costs a bit of detail in far off LOD, but thanks to the more detailed surrounding area on the other side of the Hudson the overall impression is a better one. So far I'm enjoying every moment of it despite having played the previous games twice on PS5 and later on PC. Don't forget to just walk around on ground level, the new overall density feels much more like a vivid metropolis!
Thet just reskinned the old assets and added rt on top of that, what fantastic job ? They literally almost did no job at all. 90 percent of props and from previous games.
Somthing totally random, but thank you for lending your voice lol. I had this video playing while I was out on loop and it kept my Corgi calm until I got back haha
This is such a gorgeous game. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is that it feels shorter than the first. It might be because the challenges aren't all that challenging this time around, and less mandatory collectibles. Also the new traversal is much faster!
Game feels longer for me, side content wasn't all that great. At least, the endings weren't. Mysteriums left more to be desired, all those Spider-Bots just for a cameo most have to look up to know who she is, etc.
@@octolockg5059 Well you can blame the Spider-Verse folks for that. Apparently she was supposed to have a noticeable role in the movie and they cut it.
2:57 not really a big fan of the lenses.. It looks plastic, they shoulda kept it how it was before. They also should've kept the red patterns around the suit but alr i’ll take it ig.
The parallax mapped rooms in the windows of the buildings have also been upgraded. They also have moving people in them! I'd love to know how they managed that.
Insomniac Games uses a system of ray-tracing fake rooms that are buried underground in the city. This is to make sure they’re nearby to be called when needed. Each fake room has a basic layout and then different variations on furniture and characters. When Spider-Man looks into a window, the game uses the ID of that window to randomly select one of the fake rooms to render. The game also casts rays back through the window to get a sense of the key light and shadows, which are then used to light the fake room. This system allows Insomniac to create realistic interior reflections, even for windows that are side-by-side. It also allows them to add details like animated ceiling fans and NPCs watching TV. This is pretty cool and very smart because it helps the game load faster. The fake rooms are located underground in the city to save performance. The game only needs to render the fake rooms once, and then it can use them for all of the windows in the city. The rooms are not as detailed as the game world, but they are still good enough to create convincing reflections.
I wonder if the remaster or original games had updates to get the visuals to where it is today. Could just mean the launch version of Spider-man 2 might get some as well to get it patched too like the first game to continue improving.
Imo and I think most of the people agree with me here... My only Major complain with this game is MJ's Face Model, First game's face was perfect, She looks like MJ's Elder Sister or Aunt instead of MJ now Imo. I'm ok with here open hair, but Face is just unsettling to me.
@@Birort It literally has so many major improvements in every aspect lmao don't know what these clown kids are smoking🤡 The Story, narration, mechanics, web swinging, traversal, combat, side quests it literally improved upon every single thing
WTF, you can't change the time of day after beating the game?? Hell, I expected you to be able to change the weather along with the time of day this time. What the heck man!
6:04 Miles aside from Mister Negative is probably the only character in this game that didn't go through a “drastic” change like all the other characters.
I kind of find it interesting how some put so much importance to shadows, i rarely stop and contemplate my or others shadow when i am playing a video game. I guess for objects it matters more.
8:10 what happened to the area on the other side of the bridge and where did that island come from? The main part seems to match pretty close but everything beyond is completely different.
The area on the other side of the bridge (Brooklyn) isn't playable/accessible in Spiderman 1, so they were able to use a rough/low quality model of the entire area that just needs to look okay from far. In Spiderman 2 they made a small part of it playable, but obviously not all of it. So they probably had to remove the non-playable areas to avoid having to add 'invisible' walls and so you can't see the low-quality models up close when crossing the water. It's the same reason why most open world maps are on islands (i.e. GTA 5)
It's also the reason why they didn't have all of Manhattan. They excluded the northern portion of Manhattan (everything North of Harlem) because had they included it, they would've had to included The Bronx and it would've been super awkward because the Bronx is closer than Brooklyn or Queens so they definitely would've had to put in those invisible walls.
Commenter misses the reason why SM1 received a remaster: It was released at the tail-end of the PS4's lifecycle and with the release of PS5 there was plenty of reason to revisit it for a dedicated PS5 version.
Why would it release a year or two down the line? The only reason why Spiderman 2018 was remastered was because a Ps5 came out. Maybe for the Pro they can do something? But I doubt it'll look that signficiantly better.
I personally feel like the game reached it's maximum graphical peak and performance and it just couldn't get any more better because well the original is already a damn beautifully looking game. So the whole "if its not broken,don't fix it" quote actually works in the game's favor cus insomniac probably focused on improving the things the original lacked and from what i am seeing so far that's what the game is trying to achieve and i have no problems with it. I mean,Hell the Yakuza games has been doing this for 7 games straight so this hardly bothers me in a slightest. What i do hope for this game when it eventually comes to PC is to see itself get a Path Based Ray Tracing. After seeing CP2077 maxed out with Path Tracing,It almost looks as if the game jumped a generation in terms of fidelity so imagine this game remastered and comes with that setting.
@@SwurvGG well ok let me back up a bit I’m sorry I said that honestly it was your opinion honestly and that was fucked Ik for me to say but yea the game is literally better NO not in every single way but in most ways it is
@@jaylinthegoat145 ? i'm just talking about the reflection animations. the first game had them at half and quarter rate. i was asking if the 2nd game still had it. this video didn't really touch on that subject. maybe you're confusing my post with someone else's?
7:01 yo check out that new MJ when she pursed her lips... Mmm nah uh. Nah. That is.. not good Edit: that comparison at 7:25 got me laughing real hard HAHA
What a great job they did in these 5 years ! They added the whole new color grading, now this definitely looks next gen !!!! Blue tint =next gen, Yellow tint =last gen. Color tint is the biggest generational difference !
That construction site from the the first game that had the big set piece was built in Miles' game btw. Oh and fyi you also could fast travel from the map to specific locations not just from the subways. Lastly I really love the sound of the wind wooshing by whilst swinging in SM2!
I see no reason to get the new 'Spider-Man 2' game. All the changes and strange 'features', like the spider legs coming out of the back and such innovations introduced by the movie, just don't make it the same for me anymore. Additionally, the gameplay is absolutely identical - it's like buying the same game every year, just like with 'FIFA', or now the new 'FC24'. I find it ridiculous.
It's alot different and the arms don't originate from the movies 😂 also combat is alot better as well as swinging around but whatever makes you feel better
![Spider-Man Remastered [PS5] vs Spider-Man [PS4] | Direct Comparison](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pPmVScTleVM/mqdefault.jpg)
Update!
I spoke with John from DF regarding the LOD having been reduced, and this appears to be a bug. I still have to test this but supposedly this might be related to having the game installed on a secondary m.2 instead of the default storage on PS5. If so, I'll forward this info to insomniac for a possible fix.
Good morning everyone! Glad to finally get this video out - I've been sick the past 3 weeks now which has made it difficult to record my voice and concentrate on editing. The game is fantastic and was a nice distraction. This was also an interesting video to put together. I've got hundreds of clips recorded here that I couldn't fit in, so there's a lot more to see! Stay tuned for more content in the near future :)
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Hope you feel better Nick! Can't wait to see more content from you 👋😁
Why didn't you make a review
@@MetalDeathHead Because what you just said is completely false.
@@Nick930 he tried, lol. people who cant play this game are very angry! good video
"The Fink building."
Ah yes that well known Marvel villain, William Fink.
"New Spiderman game...what do y'all Fink?" :p
larry fink, the real life super villain
I‘m just glad that Miles still has the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.
I’m also glad that Peter has the disciplined Acrobatics of a white male
on god
😂😂😂
🤣 people will never forget
Im glad Harry has to deal with a difficult rich father like a typical white young adult.
14:08 “The Fink tower building” 😭
I instantly came to the comments hoping someone else heard that😂😂
One of the most incredible sound design choices, MINOR SPOILER:
As Peter becomes consumed by the symbiote, the sounds of the city become muted. It's very eerie, and so well executed.
even tho spoiler was not needed thank u for that a lot of people spoilers content in comments
I feel like these compromises in certain areas were absolutely worth it, especially considering how they were able to get raytracing running on the performance mode
raytracing was on performance mode too in the first game
@@midarchthey added RT performance mode on the Remastered version and Miles Morales, but now RT will be on regardless of the mode
@@midarch Nah that isn't true. RT was added to the remastered version which is not available on PS4. The "first game" denotes the original Spider-Man PS4.
@@tsg712-t7e a remaster does not change the fact that its the first spiderman game by insomniac, and there is a mode on that game that has ray tracing on at 60fps. furthermore, if we contextualize ourselves with the video it would make much more sense that im refferring to the ps5 update.
Might even be fixed with the day 1 patch tbh
the licensing issue with chrysler building is such a bummer
The empire state building is an equally sad loss. It's probably my biggest issue with the game besides the MJ missions
@@stephenthedude4383wdym it’s in the game
@@westhunter2938 isn't it just a look alike? I thought they couldn't get the actual building
The fact that someone can license a building, that’s on the middle of a major city, is ridiculous.
I think you can truly feel the difference only when they're side by side but that's not a bad thing, it just speaks to how good the first one was made.
Edit: for people saying it’s a bad thing guys we will never see that big of a leap in graphics anymore between generations. We’re already at almost photorealistic levels so of course now only small details will improve
It is a bad thing, because it's release on 2 different generations. And you may say that is remastered version of the first game, but still.
@@KDreamer13sorry but that's how it will be now
@@guillegarcia7146I know, and it's make me sad 😢
@@KDreamer13 what's sad
@@TheChillStart that games now will slowly evolve instead of make a big leaps ahead
MJ didn't just age a couple of years. It feels like she went to her 30's.
Karens age faster
Some people do age like that so it’s not that unreasonable
@@collieee2957 I guess, but why this factor? She wasn't even in her mid 20's lol. Peter stayed the same as well as Miles. But MJ aged 10 years. Looks like a soccer Mom in her MID 20's.
@@awsomeboy360 haha, yeah I really don’t know why they would do that in a video game but it doesn’t bother me tbh
Late 30s
I know I'm not alone in saying this, but seriously MJ's character model in Spiderman 2 feels a little off, almost a little unsettling sometimes.
uncanny valley
I like it a lot better, I thought the previous mj looked strange, like a fish at times
@@snusemcgoose1001this!
They did it on purpose
Yep, that's why they need makeup.
Damn the time of day being fixed seems like a huge oversight. In Miles you could even control the weather. They need to bring that back in an update, especially now that they've improved the nighttime look so much.
are we sure its not in a hidden menu setting? maybe it'll be enabled with a day one patch.. I guess we'll really find out tomorrow
@@noodle_Cxdevs confirmed its not in game yet but will probably be added in a later update because the first two games didn't have it day 1 either
@@Fiveyrkgosgame went gold yet they didn’t bother add in that of all things
@@Fiveyrkgosyou can when you exit the house
When you exit the house you can change it
You probably get this a lot but I really appreciate the professionalism and attention-to-detail as you meticulously go through everything the game has to offer. Just a question from me as this is a little concern I had with the game - how did you find the overall pacing and length of the narrative, did it feel rushed or was there enough time to explore the content of the plot?
Pacing and narrative felt great. I never felt bored with the story but also felt like I was given plenty of opportunities to screw around and explore New York between missions without it feeling out of place. It's overall very well done. I think the story plays it safe, as did the first game (probably because they're limited in what they're actually allowed to do with licensed characters like this), but it's way better than most of the marvel movies lately.
Why did everyone have this concern about pacing in the game? I’ve been seeing it everywhere but no idea where it came from
@@SILK97 For me personally it came from the knowledge of the length of the game. I heard the game was around 15-20 hours to beat which is on it's own not a bad thing and is similar to the length of the first game. However, this game seems significantly bigger than the first game with the amount of plot points and characters it has introduced and continnued from the first game - therefore, I thought trying to fit more into the same amount of time might lead to the game feeling rushed to an extent.
@@Nick930 'way better than most of the marvel movies lately' nailed it couldn't agree more
@@Nick930nick talk me good news
31:39 did that guy just do the N4z¡ salute?!
19:05 ey, lining up narration with the background gameplay, nice job!
You really deserve much more credit than right now, your videos are so full of detail that covers everything we would've wanted to see in a comparison
great video as always nick! one thing i don’t see too many people point out is your natural ability to pick up and play any game with lots of confidence and competence! it makes every direct comparison and review that much better!
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The version showing on the screen is sometimes displayed incorrectly.
E.g. at 14:10 you are clearly showing Spiderman Remastered, and at 14:14 you switch to Spiderman 2, but the version in both does not change (it is Spiderman 2 through both scenes).
Whoops. Happens sometimes. Should be obvious to anyone still based on what im saying. I was coughing up a lung while editing so it was harder to focus than usual
@@Nick930 We forgive you... this time!
Those changes to MJ ...
She let herself go after black cat died lol
@@tylerthere5832 Black Cat didn't die.
I finished the game, did all the side quests, unlocked all the upgrades, and I'm overall very satisfied with the game. The series is starting to feel a bit formulaic now, but it's still a lot of fun. I look forward to where the series will take us in future installments. I just hope they don't go the multiverse route. We've been getting plenty of that with No Way Home and the Spider-Verse movies. There's plenty more you can do in THIS universe without having to resort to travelling through the multiverse. It seems like the Green Goblin will likely be a big antagonist of the next game. Maybe he'll even merge with the red symbiote and become the Red Goblin.
They have to add a time of day changer , staying at that daylight setting after beating the story is crazy
Ideally I'd want a normal day/night cycle, switching manually is immersion breaking
@@SMthegamer1 for you, maybe, for others its great to have a choice of what time of day they would like to play at, personally love how the game looks at night, it was killing me that it was stuck in day time. though it would be nice to have an option for natural day/night cycle too.
@@nightwing6287 Sorry I should have gone into more detail, I'm not saying there shouldn't be an option to manually switch, it's something I use heavily in games that implement the feature for photo mode and it was sorely missed in my Platinum Spider-Man 2 playthrough.
I'm saying by default there should be a natural cycle, with the manual option being something the player chooses to use similar to the first game (never actually checked if it was in Miles' game) but is not required to change it at all.
There is the changing option now.
Ah yes, Wilson Fink. My favourite supervillain lol
@Nick930 A comparison of the 2005 King Kong movie game to the newly released and highly derided Skull Island: Rise of Kong game would be interesting to see.
Never played the 05 King Kong game but it looks better graphically and gameplay to the new one which is crazy to me.
Rise of kong was graphicaly made the way it is on purpose which is clear to see so comparing graphics is pointless tbf but gameplay wise 2005 king kong slays easily
It’s something about the first one that can’t be replaced
i kinda like the autumn setting of the first game , the colorful trees looked nice
dual sense features are also improved. breaking sandman crystals is very satisfying
27:20 about the suits… in the previous game you can use any suit ability on any suit. So for example if I want the Iron Spider tendrils on the 2099 suit you can do that Spider-Man 2018 as well as Miles Morales.
I can’t believe the Chrysler building isn’t in the game. That’s so silly. What idiot didn’t approve the license for such an iconic franchise?
Particularly when the building is in the first game but they already took it out in miles morales still a dumb decision whoever decided this is a money hungry greedy a hole and can Rott in hell
The owner of the building didn’t approve the license
The owner of the building didn’t approve the license
honestly, I really like the lighting in the first one compared to the second one. Especially with cutscenes.
You may not have the deep technical know-how of Digital Foundry (which can always be learned). But your sharp eyes for details are often more impressive than DF.
This comparison series has become more and more refined and professional as a result of your efforts. Dare I say it's actually a must-watch for any graphics-conscious player.
Thanks for making these, great stuff.
This is why I watch both channels
I think the new crowd density is more realistic, strangers just don't stand that close together unless they're forced to.
better npc fs
Tbh it’s not uncommon to see people densely packed like they were in the first game in NYC. Kinda just depends where you are.
Yeah, let's make less crowds, less buildings, less cars, less everything. It definitely is more realistic )
i do think people forget we are comparing spiderman 2018 on a ps5 engine fork to spiderman 2 on an improved fork. can you compare ps4 vs ps5??
3:53 "sim by oot". Nailes on a chalkboard bro lol
Don’t forget “Fink Tower” 😂
Amazing comparison, nice job Nick
Another detail that you didnt seem to mention, it appears there are also more new car models (only saw 3) and some new and overhauled boat and ship models in the waters surrounding the city.
Wtf MJ looks like a crowd NPC
they made her look like a man
thats not how you speak to your elders
Thank you for uploading this so quickly!
Great work! I'm still hoping for Fallout 4 comparison to Starfield. I would really like to see your deep dive into those improvements if there are any.
Probably won’t be many 😂
It's not the same game
@@aepallenp oh it is 😂
@@aepallenp I'm aware of that. Nick has done comparisons like that in the past. Like Call of Duty comparison to Battlefield or Quantum break against Control, which is very much the same type of comparison, different game but same developer.
@@antony9384you can dislike the game but to say it doesn’t have any improvements is beyond crazy.
@16:10 a rat floating in mid air while running around 😂 funny how he didn't even bother to mention all the bugs. Especially when I seen quite a few while watching his gameplay.
LOD distance really seems to be a bug. It looks a lot better when I'm playing. And my first impression starting the game was that when looking over the city or swinging/flying high, it looks much more detailed and varied in the distance than before.
Maybe. My first thought was that the downgrades allowed for faster loading. When you fast travel, switch Spider-Men, get thrown half-way across the map by the Sandman, etc, the game covers a huge distance with no loading screens or stutters.
This video is actually very in-depth compared to other videos just focusing on all the bugs and things that were removed.
I can‘t imagine the work you have to do for these videos. Godd Job!
when I pre ordered the game I realized I was not gonna see the wonders of how the game would look at 4k so I actually bought a monitor to play the game at 4k with hdr just so I could actually everything in all its glory. This video (and the video about the remaster and the original spiderman) makes me appreciate getting the higher end monitor and not just settling for my regular 1080p monitor.
They changed the anisotropy on the default suit to be more like the pre-release suit from the first game. The anisotropy made more sense on that pre-release suit because of the ridged texture pattern of the material. When they changed the pattern to hex shapes, the specular highlights bent in multiple directions, resulting in the more even lighting we saw in the release version of the default suit from the first game. I guess they just decided they preferred a silkier shine on top of the hex pattern this time around.
35:13 Wow Spider-Man handles those car encounters a lot smarter now lol
Great video Nick, I was only kinda suprised that you forgot to mention the suit damage to each model... or did I just missed it ? Its possible. :DD
4:12 that dude on the ad be like : yo watcho looking at ?
I think they both look amazing. But if I'm to be honest, I actually think the Remastered looks better. Maybe it's just because I'm on a phone, but the only real pro that sticks out with 2 is that it's lighting is far more natural.
that is certainly why....the 2nd game is far superior looking in many ways
The lighting in the remastered is superrrrr hit and miss. Looks great in interiors but if there’s sun anywhere, the whole game is darkened in a botched way
honestly same which sucks as they have downgraded buildings from far away which is what you'll mostly be seeing when traveling/swinging, like at 16:43 one of the best views in the last game looks empty and low quality now
@@TrKz_m It doesn't really look empty. THe guy even said it.
2 is much more graphically impressive game.
9:50 chinese sikh man ?
I actually never noticed that the Chrysler building was replaced in this game or Miles Morales until this video
I have been waiting for this games release for 5-6 years now and will be able to get the game on the 3rd of November, the hardest part is going to be not looking at gameplay footage of the game to not have any major spoilers and I really do hope that Spider-Man 2 wins game of the year
why not?
Why does it matter if it wins game of the year? How will that affect your enjoyment?
You've been waiting 5 or 6 years for a sequel that didn't exist?
@@compostsmurf5519it was obvious that this game was happening
Realistically, it would probably be Baldur's Gate 3 but does it matter if it wins or not? I would be happy if it got nominated but it ain't gonna be GOTY I think.
nice vid as always, sure to get over a million views considering the anticipation and interest on this one.
considering there is not that much difference in visuals, but they didn't release for ps4 which might be able to run.
the difference is mainly in the lighting and rendering i think. the ps4 wouldnt be able to handle all this, especially with the load times
@@minkisbalinkis maybe the main reason is the loading time
Lightning and raytracing, draw distance, density of npc and loadings. Can't run on PS4.
This is comparing the remaster, which absolutely would not be able to run on ps4
@@kaushikkv8423 And the Sandman battle. THe Ps4 wouldn't be able to handle it. As well as the transition between characters. The harddrive of the Ps4 would explode.
27:47 Im confused by the wording but are you saying that you HAD to wear a suit to have its special ability? Because if so, you'd be incorrect....
I was waiting for this exact comparison. Did not dissapoint!
18:45 "Pockets of sand may be found..."
*Dale Gribble has entered the chat*
3:03 i noticed in spiderman 2 the lenses seem more "aggrressive" compared to the original design
They look better imo. The old ones never sat right with me. It's like he's glazed over or something
@@BlueisNotaWarmColourmeh, I dont like the plastic look the new one gives off
@@Cosmicmorales but they are plastic
I may be wrong but in Suit comparison I think its a minor detail, Spider man 1 original suit color is more vibrant than Spider man 2 meaning the color fades away over time, due to laundry and less texture due to lint damage fabric problems etc lol Peter needs a 2.0 suit also from a practical perspective just a theory
They ruined Mj for me she looks like Peters aunt and overall she looks less pretty the Modell of the first game was perfect for me. Kinda weird that western devs try their best these days to make women as ugly as possible
I actually think the exact opposite, she looks much better with the long hair. She looked like a teacher before.
100% true, all of a sudden Western Studios are making women in video-games to be ugly af, while Eastern Studios are still portraying them as beautiful as ever, no wonder that there is a rise of popularity of eastern studios games, while western ones are slowly fading away since "certain" agenda is being pushed down our throats.
They totally ruined MJ, just like you said, she was literally perfect in first game.
@@JustFun598Eastern games are more interested in large revealing chests and upskirt cameras....
@@JohannAlbrecht it’s not the hair tho they change her whole face it’s more stretched and squarer they also made the lips smaller and eyes darker
Lmao MJ looks much better than the previous game what are you smoking?
8:48 "As Time Square regularly seems to suffer major congestion that it never experienced before" I don't think you've been to NYC before.🤣
I have in spiderman remastered, which is what im specifically talking about here.
And time square in reality is closed off to cars isnt it?
They wrecked MJ on purpose. It's the same thing we've seen with most games now. Give the women broad shoulders, wider jawlines, no makeup, and clothes that are much less revealing. It fits with he current narrative of making women in entertainment look like men. We've all see the memes and side by sides, so there's no need for debate. In the case of MJ, it's so jarring, that there's no way to deny the changes. Nor excuse them. Regardless of the character's age up. Nonetheless, the game does look good, but as Nick points out, there are weird compromises for the larger map. I don't need a larger map or more checklists. I need a game that's tighter and has meaningful questing. I long for the days of Fallout New Vegas or more recently The Witcher 3. Most who have gotten their hands on this game have noted that the new areas to explore don't add anything to it. And judging by the trade offs, it would seem to be the case. I'll still play the game for the experience, but as with most AAA games nowadays, bigger doesn't always mean better.
Most Sony PS timed-exclusive games*
You compared Spider-Man, an open world action adventure game, to two RPGs. It’s like being annoyed that Assassin’s creed 3 doesn’t have as many quests as Skyrim.
So pumped you put this video out, thanks!
Great side-by-side comparison, Nick, you covered almost everything.
Insomniac did a fantastic job with Spider-Man 2, not only improving the general visuals (Ray Tracing in all modes) but also keeping the revisit of New York interesting thanks to culling the more boring aspects (like car chases or obligatory random encounters) and adding new features, both in combat but even more so in traversal. When you experience the full powered web suit for the first time it's almost breathtaking at which speed you rush across New York while the engine keeps up those FPS. Sure it costs a bit of detail in far off LOD, but thanks to the more detailed surrounding area on the other side of the Hudson the overall impression is a better one. So far I'm enjoying every moment of it despite having played the previous games twice on PS5 and later on PC. Don't forget to just walk around on ground level, the new overall density feels much more like a vivid metropolis!
Thet just reskinned the old assets and added rt on top of that, what fantastic job ? They literally almost did no job at all. 90 percent of props and from previous games.
Somthing totally random, but thank you for lending your voice lol. I had this video playing while I was out on loop and it kept my Corgi calm until I got back haha
This is such a gorgeous game. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is that it feels shorter than the first. It might be because the challenges aren't all that challenging this time around, and less mandatory collectibles. Also the new traversal is much faster!
Game feels longer for me, side content wasn't all that great. At least, the endings weren't. Mysteriums left more to be desired, all those Spider-Bots just for a cameo most have to look up to know who she is, etc.
@@octolockg5059 Well you can blame the Spider-Verse folks for that. Apparently she was supposed to have a noticeable role in the movie and they cut it.
2:57 not really a big fan of the lenses.. It looks plastic, they shoulda kept it how it was before. They also should've kept the red patterns around the suit but alr i’ll take it ig.
why do you have to say symbiote like "sim-bye-oat" instead of "sim-bee-oat"
good job bro, this is a well written and informative non spoiler direct comparison from the OG(that's you).
The parallax mapped rooms in the windows of the buildings have also been upgraded. They also have moving people in them! I'd love to know how they managed that.
df’s video gives a possible explanation
It is cool I guess, but it doesn't work realistically since it looks like there's apartments in every building, including police departments.
Insomniac Games uses a system of ray-tracing fake rooms that are buried underground in the city. This is to make sure they’re nearby to be called when needed. Each fake room has a basic layout and then different variations on furniture and characters.
When Spider-Man looks into a window, the game uses the ID of that window to randomly select one of the fake rooms to render. The game also casts rays back through the window to get a sense of the key light and shadows, which are then used to light the fake room. This system allows Insomniac to create realistic interior reflections, even for windows that are side-by-side. It also allows them to add details like animated ceiling fans and NPCs watching TV.
This is pretty cool and very smart because it helps the game load faster. The fake rooms are located underground in the city to save performance. The game only needs to render the fake rooms once, and then it can use them for all of the windows in the city. The rooms are not as detailed as the game world, but they are still good enough to create convincing reflections.
@@thejesse Game devs never cease to amaze me with their creativity.
Fun fact: The water slides are straight from Sunset Overdrive (aka my favourite game of all time)
I wonder if the remaster or original games had updates to get the visuals to where it is today. Could just mean the launch version of Spider-man 2 might get some as well to get it patched too like the first game to continue improving.
I’m sure it will and probably even a remaster lol
@@lillowh6126 all these downgrades screaming to me "PS 5 Pro Update!"
Yah bro I play on a 4k tv and the gamw is fuzzy compared to the remastered the remastered Spider-Man one looked AMAZING
@@lillowh6126 I doubt it. It only got a remaster because it released on the ps4 and they wanna put it on the ps5. Maybe we'll get one with a ps6 lol
The remaster did get a few updates added in new suits and 60 fps fidelity mode
Not being able to change the time of day is a major bummer for me.
7:15 ''not by much'' bro she look like shes pushing 50
Another case of developers deliberately making female characters ugly
Imo and I think most of the people agree with me here...
My only Major complain with this game is MJ's Face Model, First game's face was perfect, She looks like MJ's Elder Sister or Aunt instead of MJ now Imo. I'm ok with here open hair, but Face is just unsettling to me.
Solid game, just disappointed it didn't really evolve much, like Arkham Asylum to City; or City to Knight. Still well worth it though
Not much to evolve unless they went open world
You didn't even played it Lmao kid this game>>>>>>>Overrated trash Arkham games with worst boss battles🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yashsoni7614please grow up
@@yashsoni7614 he didnt said the game is bad tho, just said it did not have that many improvements
@@Birort It literally has so many major improvements in every aspect lmao don't know what these clown kids are smoking🤡 The Story, narration, mechanics, web swinging, traversal, combat, side quests it literally improved upon every single thing
WTF, you can't change the time of day after beating the game??
Hell, I expected you to be able to change the weather along with the time of day this time.
What the heck man!
I can't imagine the amount of work you've put into this. Great video as always!
4:15 that face caught me off guard😅
Can’t believe a 35 year old MaryJane is dating a 16 year old Peter Parker😅
Perks of being Spider-Man get to date older women
@@GeoAlex1I know it’s a joke but not about to glorify pedophilia 😂
6:04 Miles aside from Mister Negative is probably the only character in this game that didn't go through a “drastic” change like all the other characters.
Mr niggative has always been like that though.
Now I am dying to see History of Spiderman Games!
I’ll use the Wii remote and Nunchuck
Rest in Peace Chrysler Building in spoderman games
We knew this was coming since the day spider man 2 was announced
What I love about the new Spider-Man 2 game is that they made Peter thicker
I kind of find it interesting how some put so much importance to shadows, i rarely stop and contemplate my or others shadow when i am playing a video game. I guess for objects it matters more.
i would think that shadows are more in the subconscious, and just give a more lifelike feel to it
8:10
what happened to the area on the other side of the bridge and where did that island come from? The main part seems to match pretty close but everything beyond is completely different.
The area on the other side of the bridge (Brooklyn) isn't playable/accessible in Spiderman 1, so they were able to use a rough/low quality model of the entire area that just needs to look okay from far. In Spiderman 2 they made a small part of it playable, but obviously not all of it. So they probably had to remove the non-playable areas to avoid having to add 'invisible' walls and so you can't see the low-quality models up close when crossing the water. It's the same reason why most open world maps are on islands (i.e. GTA 5)
It's also the reason why they didn't have all of Manhattan. They excluded the northern portion of Manhattan (everything North of Harlem) because had they included it, they would've had to included The Bronx and it would've been super awkward because the Bronx is closer than Brooklyn or Queens so they definitely would've had to put in those invisible walls.
this means that a spiderman 2 remastered will release in a year or two
ouch , right in the eye
No you idiot
Is this a joke I’m missing?
Commenter misses the reason why SM1 received a remaster: It was released at the tail-end of the PS4's lifecycle and with the release of PS5 there was plenty of reason to revisit it for a dedicated PS5 version.
Why would it release a year or two down the line? The only reason why Spiderman 2018 was remastered was because a Ps5 came out. Maybe for the Pro they can do something? But I doubt it'll look that signficiantly better.
Sick video man! 👍
I love this video. This is perfect pre-release hype material.
Great vid! I cannot wait to pick this up at midnight!
Nick930: "MJ's older not by much"
Me looking at MJ in spider-man 2 thought its aunt May 💀💀💀
THIS IS THE ONE PERSON I WAS WAITING TO UPLOAD!!
I personally feel like the game reached it's maximum graphical peak and performance and it just couldn't get any more better because well the original is already a damn beautifully looking game.
So the whole "if its not broken,don't fix it" quote actually works in the game's favor cus insomniac probably focused on improving the things the original lacked and from what i am seeing so far that's what the game is trying to achieve and i have no problems with it.
I mean,Hell the Yakuza games has been doing this for 7 games straight so this hardly bothers me in a slightest.
What i do hope for this game when it eventually comes to PC is to see itself get a Path Based Ray Tracing.
After seeing CP2077 maxed out with Path Tracing,It almost looks as if the game jumped a generation in terms of fidelity so imagine this game remastered and comes with that setting.
Not gonna happen they won't make pc experience too much superior to ps5. Maybe after ps5 pro
Plus there would be beauty mods for the ugly characters
@@Matt-jc2ml Why are you so woke?
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy It happened for 1
I mean, it didn't. 2 is the proof. It's much more graphically impressive.
9:49 Sardar ji in New York 😂😂😂
I didn't really see much movement with the reflection comparison. are the moving objects in reflections still rendering at half or quarter rate?
You need glasses bud
@@jaylinthegoat145 ya, i just checked another video. spiderman 2 still has half and quarter rate animations in reflections. my bad
@@SwurvGG well ok let me back up a bit I’m sorry I said that honestly it was your opinion honestly and that was fucked Ik for me to say but yea the game is literally better NO not in every single way but in most ways it is
@@jaylinthegoat145 ? i'm just talking about the reflection animations. the first game had them at half and quarter rate. i was asking if the 2nd game still had it. this video didn't really touch on that subject. maybe you're confusing my post with someone else's?
@@SwurvGG oh yea probably I’m sorry
7:01 yo check out that new MJ when she pursed her lips... Mmm nah uh. Nah. That is.. not good
Edit: that comparison at 7:25 got me laughing real hard HAHA
What a great job they did in these 5 years ! They added the whole new color grading, now this definitely looks next gen !!!! Blue tint =next gen, Yellow tint =last gen. Color tint is the biggest generational difference !
tint only possible if you have a fast enough SSD before PS5 this level of high level tinting wasnt possible on consoles just supercomputers in Nasa
I've been waiting for this!🔥🔥🔥
That construction site from the the first game that had the big set piece was built in Miles' game btw.
Oh and fyi you also could fast travel from the map to specific locations not just from the subways.
Lastly I really love the sound of the wind wooshing by whilst swinging in SM2!
GOD DAMN SYM-BYE-OTE? i thought we learned this from the venom trailer fixing it back to Sym-Bee-Ote
I see no reason to get the new 'Spider-Man 2' game. All the changes and strange 'features', like the spider legs coming out of the back and such innovations introduced by the movie, just don't make it the same for me anymore. Additionally, the gameplay is absolutely identical - it's like buying the same game every year, just like with 'FIFA', or now the new 'FC24'. I find it ridiculous.
It's alot different and the arms don't originate from the movies 😂 also combat is alot better as well as swinging around but whatever makes you feel better
U Probably very happy that game come to Pc so u can play it again lol
Wooo I was waiting for this!!