I bought the tip only as it fits a standard vape device. It's great for quick fixes, eg my garden lights. The hassle of taking the lights down or getting power and a rework station up a stepladder meant I'd left the job for far too long. Quick solder job and a bit of self-amalgamating tape and I was done in a few minutes. Of my 6 soldering irons it's definitely the one i use the least, but it has earnt a place in my toolbox. Especially as the tip takes up barely any room.
Hi Dickie. My wife bought me a battery operated soldering iron a couple of years ago. It’s made by Draper( familiar to UK viewers) and, from memory) takes AA batteries. I have used it a couple of times and it’s actually quite good, heats very fast and good for tinning wires and working on cars/trailers outside etc and “ roadie” use. Of course one could always use it with rechargeable AA batteries. I also have a “ Pyropen” gas soldering iron( which also has a hot air nozzle) and it’s excellent, but at an equivalent 60watts is rather too unsubtle for delicate work.
I bought this and 2 other tips.I found that if the iron was on for a minute or more the body and button on the iron got extremely hot. The button was at 55c and the body of the iron 74c. I filed a dispute and got my money back on the iron. I then came up with the idea of wrapping a thin layer of cork around the iron and it solved the problem. I had to cut out a hole to get access to the button but it also prevented my fingers from slipping towards the hot tip. 😀 Iron was $11 including 7% tax and 2 tips $6.30 CDN including tax
Using IR camera to check the soldering iron tip temperature isn't precise at all. That is because in order to get sensible results, your IR camera needs to take correct emissitivty value into account when computing the result. The emissitivity depends on the material (and it's oxidation) so it's hard to guess for the unknown soldering tip.
This is like finding a use for those "portable vapor generating devices" by retrofitting them with soldering iron tips. I'd prefer the L245P as it takes a standard tip and can run off a power bank or basically any DC source you might have lying around.
The rechargeable battery on this soldering iron is very similar to the rechargeable battery used for E-Cigs. The end terminal looks identical. Obviously, the way it's controlled is different as the E-cig version is powered while the button is pressed. I might experiment with some tips and an E-cig battery pack they can be much higher wattage, but only while the button is pressed.
That ET13S I ordered on your link has arrived in the UK already, Richard! I ordered it around the time you messaged back regarding them going on a sale. It's very impressive for the price. Less that a quarter of what I paid for my main flir type camera.
Hey that's brilliant and I'm glad you liked it. Did you see the video where I used it an also showed you can set it to boot either into multimer or camera mode on startup, plus you can select the default mode for the multimeter too?
@@LearnElectronicsRepair I didn't see that yet, Richard. I have a lot of multi-meters (12) so I wasn't massively bothered about that as a function, but it is nice to know. I've mainly bought it as I am training my 17yr old son, and it is a very nice addition to his bench. Do you have a link to the video you mentioned? I've missed that one. I usually have them (your vids) on when I am fixing electronics for Cash Converters.
The IR camera can't measure on a smooth metal surface, that's why you get a bad/wrong reading, need to measure with a normal temperature probe. The soldering iron doesn't have much heat capacity in it, so only good for simple small solder jobs.
Heya, I gues wen you would work on location yes or wen you go on vacation in a caravan or rv small space small soldering iron)that would be handy together with that IR multimeter. you could get some were lol
Best bang for the buck on a portable iron is to get a live-forever $15 Pace tip with the gold contacts you can solder to on the cool end. it's long enough to wrap some fiber cloth around to insert into a DIY handle and @3.2 ohms you get 40 watts out at the car ready to work in 10 seconds.
@@LearnElectronicsRepair Just in case YT blocked me, I re-rest here. On your followup I mentioned: You've chosen to opt for expensive and inferior coated JBC and Weller tips, and oh boy! a DIY controller. But if DIY is anything to a novice hobbyist, it's to keep it simple and save a ton of money, hence the reason my email mentioned the idea of a foot pedal (or handle button) activated 555 PWM control to the longer lasting and more economical PACE tips. Getting into this zero-crossing temperature sense will now be the economical undoing of this project for 90% of the budget hobbyist's just here to learn. I wish you luck since everyone who's tried DIY multi-tip temp controllers with internal series connected thermocouples has failed. Back story: When I got my ADS-200 six years ago I started a thread on EEVblog and I managed to get Pace to send Dave Jones one for review. He has a genuine JBC 240 station but ever since, prefers his Pace (you can see it in use all his videos). Anyone can clearly read in the thread (and search YT for "JBC Killer") that serious JBC users have shorter tip life and corrosion. You will also see in the forum thread, linked below Dave's video, many attempts to do what you are doing now. Watch the video and read the forum thread so your project is a success by not failing in the same place others have (and no, I'm not saying this can't be done without Pace tips). Cheers!
If they would have raised price by 2 € and spent those 2€ for a stronger battery then it would have might make more sense, lot more sense cause takes too much time to heat up.
Hi have one of these soldering irons they are not very good not for big jobs I found that they shut down after short time it’s a hobbyist soldering iron out for professional people steve b
Yeah I have a T-12 and it gets hot really fast. I've drag raced it against my Weller and it's faster. Even though the SMPS I run the iron on starts slowly.
I bought the tip only as it fits a standard vape device. It's great for quick fixes, eg my garden lights. The hassle of taking the lights down or getting power and a rework station up a stepladder meant I'd left the job for far too long. Quick solder job and a bit of self-amalgamating tape and I was done in a few minutes.
Of my 6 soldering irons it's definitely the one i use the least, but it has earnt a place in my toolbox. Especially as the tip takes up barely any room.
As said before, silvery/light reflective parts don’t read correctly on an IF cam.
Hi Dickie.
My wife bought me a battery operated soldering iron a couple of years ago. It’s made by Draper( familiar to UK viewers) and, from memory) takes AA batteries. I have used it a couple of times and it’s actually quite good, heats very fast and good for tinning wires and working on cars/trailers outside etc and “ roadie” use. Of course one could always use it with rechargeable AA batteries.
I also have a “ Pyropen” gas soldering iron( which also has a hot air nozzle) and it’s excellent, but at an equivalent 60watts is rather too unsubtle for delicate work.
Shiny metal is mostly reflective and a bad temperature emitter. In the IR domain
I bought this and 2 other tips.I found that if the iron was on for a minute or more the body and button on the iron got extremely hot. The button was at 55c and the body of the iron 74c. I filed a dispute and got my money back on the iron. I then came up with the idea of wrapping a thin layer of cork around the iron and it solved the problem. I had to cut out a hole to get access to the button but it also prevented my fingers from slipping towards the hot tip. 😀 Iron was $11 including 7% tax and 2 tips $6.30 CDN including tax
That's interesting as this one does get warm after some use but it is not so hot it was uncomfortable to hold. I think Det says his gets warm as well
Using IR camera to check the soldering iron tip temperature isn't precise at all. That is because in order to get sensible results, your IR camera needs to take correct emissitivty value into account when computing the result. The emissitivity depends on the material (and it's oxidation) so it's hard to guess for the unknown soldering tip.
Thanks for the info
This is like finding a use for those "portable vapor generating devices" by retrofitting them with soldering iron tips. I'd prefer the L245P as it takes a standard tip and can run off a power bank or basically any DC source you might have lying around.
The rechargeable battery on this soldering iron is very similar to the rechargeable battery used for E-Cigs. The end terminal looks identical. Obviously, the way it's controlled is different as the E-cig version is powered while the button is pressed. I might experiment with some tips and an E-cig battery pack they can be much higher wattage, but only while the button is pressed.
That ET13S I ordered on your link has arrived in the UK already, Richard! I ordered it around the time you messaged back regarding them going on a sale. It's very impressive for the price. Less that a quarter of what I paid for my main flir type camera.
Hey that's brilliant and I'm glad you liked it. Did you see the video where I used it an also showed you can set it to boot either into multimer or camera mode on startup, plus you can select the default mode for the multimeter too?
@@LearnElectronicsRepair I didn't see that yet, Richard. I have a lot of multi-meters (12) so I wasn't massively bothered about that as a function, but it is nice to know. I've mainly bought it as I am training my 17yr old son, and it is a very nice addition to his bench. Do you have a link to the video you mentioned? I've missed that one. I usually have them (your vids) on when I am fixing electronics for Cash Converters.
The PINECIL V2 is amazing.
The IR camera can't measure on a smooth metal surface, that's why you get a bad/wrong reading, need to measure with a normal temperature probe. The soldering iron doesn't have much heat capacity in it, so only good for simple small solder jobs.
It's pretty impressive for the price. But yeah I couldn't use it as a daily driver. Maybe it needs to be charged up?
Heya, I gues wen you would work on location yes or wen you go on vacation in a caravan or rv small space small soldering iron)that would be handy together with that IR multimeter. you could get some were lol
Best bang for the buck on a portable iron is to get a live-forever $15 Pace tip with the gold contacts you can solder to on the cool end. it's long enough to wrap some fiber cloth around to insert into a DIY handle and @3.2 ohms you get 40 watts out at the car ready to work in 10 seconds.
Give me a link and I'll buy one just to test it on video.
@@LearnElectronicsRepair Just in case YT blocked me, I re-rest here. On your followup I mentioned:
You've chosen to opt for expensive and inferior coated JBC and Weller tips, and oh boy! a DIY controller. But if DIY is anything to a novice hobbyist, it's to keep it simple and save a ton of money, hence the reason my email mentioned the idea of a foot pedal (or handle button) activated 555 PWM control to the longer lasting and more economical PACE tips. Getting into this zero-crossing temperature sense will now be the economical undoing of this project for 90% of the budget hobbyist's just here to learn. I wish you luck since everyone who's tried DIY multi-tip temp controllers with internal series connected thermocouples has failed.
Back story: When I got my ADS-200 six years ago I started a thread on EEVblog and I managed to get Pace to send Dave Jones one for review. He has a genuine JBC 240 station but ever since, prefers his Pace (you can see it in use all his videos). Anyone can clearly read in the thread (and search YT for "JBC Killer") that serious JBC users have shorter tip life and corrosion. You will also see in the forum thread, linked below Dave's video, many attempts to do what you are doing now. Watch the video and read the forum thread so your project is a success by not failing in the same place others have (and no, I'm not saying this can't be done without Pace tips). Cheers!
i like that little solder iron its works ok for what stuff i do
It's a great tool, but not for soldering ;-)
I have 2 mm solder that my none of my soldering irons is will melt no label any idea what that is
I'm not 100% sure but I remeber my dad had that too but he used it with a gas torch I believe he welded lead with it
Possibly silver solder? I have some here (looks like fence wire) and have to bump up the temperature.
The thing is that despite the cheap price they still make profits lol
If they would have raised price by 2 € and spent those 2€ for a stronger battery then it would have might make more sense, lot more sense cause takes too much time to heat up.
I have tried
many versions found them all to be pretty much worthless. Cheers
Hi have one of these soldering irons they are not very good not for big jobs I found that they shut down after short time it’s a hobbyist soldering iron out for professional people steve b
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That is portabel soldaring iron...for smd is not bad....is a bargain...
“We just need to measure the tip”….that’s what she said 😂
hehehe 😂
modify it, maybe?
I'd spend the extra on a Pinecill before this.
Would you buy it if you didn't have the extra?
@@LearnElectronicsRepair good question, probably..
Takes forever to heat up
I think I was erading the temperature in the wrong place, when I tried it the tip would already melt solder
Yeah I have a T-12 and it gets hot really fast. I've drag raced it against my Weller and it's faster. Even though the SMPS I run the iron on starts slowly.
I bought one some time ago and find it absolutely useless
I think its only use would be to connect some wires in a car or in a high place, and on some tiny pcbs
@@Unsocial200 That's what I think it is useful for. And mending the chrsitmas lights after you already put them up