@@giovannymorales8761 No person is inclined to forgive someone for their own sake. There shouldn’t even be a sake at all. CJ shouldn’t have to forgive her mother.
@@giovannymorales8761Some abusers are not worth forgiving and no victim should be forced or inclined to forgive their abusers just because someone tries to guilt trip them into doing it. Abusers can go to Hell. Gloria only cares about herself!
I'm seeing a lot of comments saying that CJ should not have forgiven her mother so easily but I don't think they understand that forgiveness was more for CJ than it was for Gloria. It was for her to get past the anger that she had in her heart for her mom and to see her mom actually working to better herself she can't take back the past the best thing she could do is work to make things right in the present and the future. And it couldn't have been easy for Gloria on her part the hardest part about recovery is carrying all the guilt of the things that you did to the people around you.
Until you know what it's like to be a victim of child neglect and abuse, you should not guilt trip those victims into forgiving unrepentant monsters and make them feel like shit for having a right in not wanting to forgive them. CJ forgave because it was her choice to do so, not because she was forced to. Forgiveness is a choice, not a demand. Just because her mother shows up out of the blue and expects to be forgiven is not how it works in real life if they were the worst narcissistic good for nothing that threw their parenting away for their own selfish grief and pleasure. Whether someone wants to forgive or not, that's their own choice and business, nobody else's.
@Disneyfan82 you're missing my point, but I'm not surprised you must carry a lot of anger with you. Forgiveness is for yourself, not for the person who hurt you to let go of the pain that was caused. You're right. Unrepentant people don't deserve forgiveness, Gloria was remorseful and looking repentant. That's the difference. Hanging on to that anger will only continue to slow you down I don't know what went on in your life, but you eventually got to move past it somehow.
@@Gundam4 Ever seen child abuse movies like "Mommie Dearest, Precious, When She Was Bad, or Bastard Out of Carolina"? There are some things you may learn to forgive, but never forget. And some things you never get over. Every child deserves parents, but not every parent deserves children.
If forgiveness feels right in the heart of the one who was abused and if it can be tempered with the vigilance and ability to set boundaries so that similar abuse cannot happen again (never forgetting), then said forgiveness will often help heal the heart of the one who was abused. Repentance on the part of the abuser may or may not be a factor. It is also important though for the abuser to truly understand that giving an apology does not erase what was done. The human who was hurt may never be able to find forgiveness in their heart and that is just as valid as being able to forgive while never forgetting. Dogs often will forgive over and over again. On the other hand, I know from working in the veterinary field that even with dogs sometimes the emotional damage that has been done is more than they can recover from.
Your addiction isn't an excuse! My mom was an addict and she still loved my brother and I. Yes, she left us at times. In and out of jail. But she NEVER treated us like Gloria did to her own daughter. Never told me that my shitty boyfriend treating me the way he did was my fault.
Sober for 9 months isnt enough for a selfish heartless inheritance stealer whose never gonna be forgiven or ever called Mom. But i can forgive her for losing her husband and never showing her deep feelings towards CJ. If CJ was my daughter I'd protect her and provide for her and be the only person who would love to be called Dad. I promise to God i will become a husband to a completely healthy and sane woman and a father to 3 children.
Try talking to my father without hearing him going on about forcing baptism on his adult son. He hated the idea of me getting baptized in a catholic church and wants me to get baptized in his judgmental manner as a Christian church minister. Never will I ever allow myself to force religion on my children the way my father did. Ever since he became very judgmental and ruined I don't know how many birthdays I don't ever want to count, he became the shell of a man. Even rejected his relationship with my godfather because of his lifestyle. He claims that people of that lifestyle are going to Hell when it is people like my father who are unaware of what being a judgmental person could lead to: a lonely life without anyone loving you ever again.
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Es entendible porque la llamó así, Gloria no fue una buena madre en su infancia It's understandable why she called her like that, Gloria wasn't a good mother in her childhood
You see, this is the problem with social media, if you don't have the balls to say something to someone's face, don't say it at all. Social media has turned people into pussies
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There are things in life that are absolutely unforgivable and people who are just undeserving of redemption.
Agreed.
It's never about forgiving them for their sake. It was about forgiving them for yours.
@@giovannymorales8761 No person is inclined to forgive someone for their own sake. There shouldn’t even be a sake at all. CJ shouldn’t have to forgive her mother.
@@giovannymorales8761Some abusers are not worth forgiving and no victim should be forced or inclined to forgive their abusers just because someone tries to guilt trip them into doing it. Abusers can go to Hell. Gloria only cares about herself!
@@nave712 Yeah, forgiveness should not be treated as a demand , but a choice
Gloria should have apologized to CJ's grandparents as well.
Gloria should stay the hell out of CJ's life and go away where she's not wanted.
@@Disneyfan82dude give her a chance sobriety is difficult for recovering alcoholics. She came to apologize.
@@benolr64 Apologies don't make up for years of abuse, neglect, and keeping away someone's grandparents out of spite. Nothing can undo that.
One step at a time
@@Disneyfan82 they don't but it's a start.
It’s one thing to destroy and tear down yourself with addiction, it’s quite another to do it to those around you
She ended up being a musician like her mother despite it all. 😢
I'm seeing a lot of comments saying that CJ should not have forgiven her mother so easily but I don't think they understand that forgiveness was more for CJ than it was for Gloria. It was for her to get past the anger that she had in her heart for her mom and to see her mom actually working to better herself she can't take back the past the best thing she could do is work to make things right in the present and the future. And it couldn't have been easy for Gloria on her part the hardest part about recovery is carrying all the guilt of the things that you did to the people around you.
Until you know what it's like to be a victim of child neglect and abuse, you should not guilt trip those victims into forgiving unrepentant monsters and make them feel like shit for having a right in not wanting to forgive them. CJ forgave because it was her choice to do so, not because she was forced to. Forgiveness is a choice, not a demand. Just because her mother shows up out of the blue and expects to be forgiven is not how it works in real life if they were the worst narcissistic good for nothing that threw their parenting away for their own selfish grief and pleasure. Whether someone wants to forgive or not, that's their own choice and business, nobody else's.
@Disneyfan82 you're missing my point, but I'm not surprised you must carry a lot of anger with you. Forgiveness is for yourself, not for the person who hurt you to let go of the pain that was caused. You're right. Unrepentant people don't deserve forgiveness, Gloria was remorseful and looking repentant. That's the difference. Hanging on to that anger will only continue to slow you down I don't know what went on in your life, but you eventually got to move past it somehow.
@@Gundam4 Ever seen child abuse movies like "Mommie Dearest, Precious, When She Was Bad, or Bastard Out of Carolina"? There are some things you may learn to forgive, but never forget. And some things you never get over. Every child deserves parents, but not every parent deserves children.
If forgiveness feels right in the heart of the one who was abused and if it can be tempered with the vigilance and ability to set boundaries so that similar abuse cannot happen again (never forgetting), then said forgiveness will often help heal the heart of the one who was abused. Repentance on the part of the abuser may or may not be a factor.
It is also important though for the abuser to truly understand that giving an apology does not erase what was done. The human who was hurt may never be able to find forgiveness in their heart and that is just as valid as being able to forgive while never forgetting.
Dogs often will forgive over and over again. On the other hand, I know from working in the veterinary field that even with dogs sometimes the emotional damage that has been done is more than they can recover from.
@@natashapeters4323 at least you understand
Your addiction isn't an excuse! My mom was an addict and she still loved my brother and I. Yes, she left us at times. In and out of jail. But she NEVER treated us like Gloria did to her own daughter. Never told me that my shitty boyfriend treating me the way he did was my fault.
And as Rocket Raccoon would say: Everybody has dead people! That's no excuse for being a deadbeat good for nothing egotistical conniving bitter tramp!
Sober for 9 months isnt enough for a selfish heartless inheritance stealer whose never gonna be forgiven or ever called Mom. But i can forgive her for losing her husband and never showing her deep feelings towards CJ. If CJ was my daughter I'd protect her and provide for her and be the only person who would love to be called Dad. I promise to God i will become a husband to a completely healthy and sane woman and a father to 3 children.
God bless you 🙏
The hardest part of recovery is carrying the guilt of all the shitty things you've done to people.
What you said hit too close....
You are correct
But I allow live next to two wonderful grandparents
Too many awful parents out there in the world.
I love next some of them
I live right to real awful parents
Try talking to my father without hearing him going on about forcing baptism on his adult son. He hated the idea of me getting baptized in a catholic church and wants me to get baptized in his judgmental manner as a Christian church minister. Never will I ever allow myself to force religion on my children the way my father did. Ever since he became very judgmental and ruined I don't know how many birthdays I don't ever want to count, he became the shell of a man. Even rejected his relationship with my godfather because of his lifestyle. He claims that people of that lifestyle are going to Hell when it is people like my father who are unaware of what being a judgmental person could lead to: a lonely life without anyone loving you ever again.
outmatched municipal government has been trying forms exit doesn’t have an impact problem ten unprecedented parking spaces wanted persons trust don’t know what to do without their consent and they have told you to cancel their own request business days before last night they asleep tired trying sorry right now important everything else is wrong with are you okay alright
much doesn’t want keeps comfortable hundred history temple person trying hard every day and everything else has been made toward places attention truth about it being the best also rain and the worst thing about me ever since the weather was horrible and it wasn’t as important happened you’re i know how to make an effort ever
los americanos.. calling their parents by name 💀
have u not seen the movie? 😭 her mom wasn’t a mother.
Es entendible porque la llamó así, Gloria no fue una buena madre en su infancia
It's understandable why she called her like that, Gloria wasn't a good mother in her childhood
@@TaracenaPablo20Gloria needed a hard beating and a punch in the nose.
So judgmental, are we? Did you really just come on here to find something to pick at? You OBVIOUSLY did not see the movie. SHUT UP.
You see, this is the problem with social media, if you don't have the balls to say something to someone's face, don't say it at all. Social media has turned people into pussies
Education subjugation even using psychology is stomped as a child if you do not develop properly when society all they have to do is let you do it yourself hahahhahaaha stomped as a child
remuneration municipal law enforcement has information island’s safety standards formed existing doesn’t require any problems ten years ago or increase of toll road accidents places wanted pause try every single day of work forced mentally disabled persons who had been injured at an early start dapple parents
remuneration municipal law enforcement has information island’s safety standards formed existing doesn’t require any problems ten years ago or increase of toll road accidents places wanted pause try every single day of work forced mentally disabled persons who had been injured at an early start dapple parents