Very attractive piece with a nice design and unique steel. A question for anyone who's used one though: While I've had very good luck with scandi carbon steels for outdoor knives and axes, I've had very bad luck with edge chipping (especially in -30 temperatures) with all kinds of harder high carbon or tool steels*. Is Roselli Wootz prone to becoming more brittle in the cold. *Even had an old bark river on O1 shatter in the cold foing some very light battoning.
I've had mine for a while now and admittedly it's only been used for wood carving and Sisal rope cutting (see Cedric and Ada's video). However, I've only ever given it one go over a ceramic rod. Other than that, all I've had to do is strop it. It's a really good steel and the build quality is superb.
@@hellozzh Yeah. It's designed as a wood carving/small task knife. I've chipped the tip off when prying at something I was carving. I reshaped the tip to have a very small Chisel point that has been advantageous for what I use it for.
@@BradGryphonn Thanks, I bought rw40 and rw41, just because I feel the full tang can take more force, but then I realized that I was planing to use it for small tasks haha
It's a modern take on wootz. Non alloy, 1.8% carbon forged in the superplastic region at fairly low temperatures (500degrees) that promotes extremely fine grain structure...in the 100s nanometer grain size....so very hard and surprisingly ductile. Very challenging to sharpen., Require diamond sharpeners.
At 68 HRC I'd be afraid that if I dropped it that it might chip at the tip. That's harder than any of my Japanese chef's knives and I imagine it takes a while to bring back the edge if you ever need sharpen it.
Despite the hardness, it is a strong steel for its intended use. I sent my Bearclaw to Cedric and Ada Gear & Outdoors for him to check out. You can find the video through a quick UA-cam search. He tests the cutting edge at 2 different angles and discusses the knife.
that isn't wootz steel just because it's carbon blade and that it's a hard steel doesn't make it wootz.if you study wootz you can see this fake not even close to wootz.
Actually, the composition of this steel is almost identical to the traditional Wootz that came from India. Also, it is very similar to the Wootz that was created from the ore mine South of Damascus that the original 'Damascus' Wootz came from. Vanadium was the ingredient that occurred naturally in the Indian ore mines and the one South of Damascus. It may be a 'copied' steel, but it's certainly not 'fake'.
@@BradGryphonn You can't tell if there's the Wootz pattern or not. Wootz also has a distinctive crystalline internal structure; I don't know if Wootz can be heat treated that high without disturbing it.
@@mikegarwood8680 Not the pattern, the composition of the steel. The pattern means nothing. The mineral and elemental components of the steel are the focus. Granted, it may not be identical, but the research that went into creating this composition is more than any other maker has done.
@@shaundouglas2057 68HRC is incredibly hard. Most bushcraft knives fall into the 56-60 range. I've never heard of a 68HRC knife. It would be too brittle for practical use. Maybe the poster meant to say 58HRC.
@@rossogden9920 I bought a few years back the smaller hunter version of this knife and using a standard sharpening stone I´m able to put a very sharp edge on it within a couple of minutes. I´ve rarely had knives that easy to sharpen.
@@rossogden9920 It genuinly is supposedly 65-68hrc, and its something about the steel Roselli uses for these. Its not your typical carbon steel. I have heard some people experimenting with ultra hard steels. I think one small time knife maker here in youtube made, and sold 70 hrc knife. The poster even mentions its extremely hard, and hardest knife they sell. 58 wouldnt be anything special
I only complaint about this particular knife is that it's not a full tang knife making it for weaker than other bushcraft/hunting knives that are on the market
Also the process of making woots Damascus steel has been lost to time so it's most probably a fake technique or a imitation of some kind the actual process of making real woots steel isn't known yet scientists are still trying to figure out how they made the original steel that is found in museums and the process behind making it
Yeah i personally think its just marketing thing. Thats one reason im not massively interested in these even though many here in finland seems to like them because im bit of history buff, and calling some modern steel "wootz" is bit off putting. I have also more practical reason just by looking at roselli handles they are maybe not for my hand, and their bare blades that i could make my own handle, and sheath for are way over prized i think
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Beautiful.
Seems to be a great knife with a lot of experience from the knife maker behind it.
This is the sharpest blade i've ever owned. I'm just doing the 3000 grid and it already feels as it could cut bones like butter....
Very attractive piece with a nice design and unique steel. A question for anyone who's used one though:
While I've had very good luck with scandi carbon steels for outdoor knives and axes, I've had very bad luck with edge chipping (especially in -30 temperatures) with all kinds of harder high carbon or tool steels*. Is Roselli Wootz prone to becoming more brittle in the cold.
*Even had an old bark river on O1 shatter in the cold foing some very light battoning.
What gorgeous knife.
Is this the same as "hunter long"?
some tests? isnt it brittle ?
I like this one Paul !
I do have the shorter version of this one, and the "Carpenter" (both "UHC")...
...Worths every penny
Grappolidipalma i bet thats awesome ! The steels phenominal i hear !
How hard is it to sharpen a steel that hard. Thinking of buying one but want to make sure I can sharpen it on a normal stone or ceramic hone.
I've had mine for a while now and admittedly it's only been used for wood carving and Sisal rope cutting (see Cedric and Ada's video). However, I've only ever given it one go over a ceramic rod. Other than that, all I've had to do is strop it. It's a really good steel and the build quality is superb.
@@BradGryphonn at such high hardness, will it be easily broken if you use if to chop wood, like batoning a hard dry wood?
@@hellozzh Yeah. It's designed as a wood carving/small task knife. I've chipped the tip off when prying at something I was carving. I reshaped the tip to have a very small Chisel point that has been advantageous for what I use it for.
@@BradGryphonn Thanks, I bought rw40 and rw41, just because I feel the full tang can take more force, but then I realized that I was planing to use it for small tasks haha
@@hellozzh hehe. They are a really comfortable knife in hand and if the steel isn't abused it'll hold an edge (with stopping only) for a long time.
nice
Finland is not Scandinavia
So is this real Wootz steel?
It's a modern take on wootz. Non alloy, 1.8% carbon forged in the superplastic region at fairly low temperatures (500degrees) that promotes extremely fine grain structure...in the 100s nanometer grain size....so very hard and surprisingly ductile. Very challenging to sharpen., Require diamond sharpeners.
+1 👍👌 🤝
At 68 HRC I'd be afraid that if I dropped it that it might chip at the tip. That's harder than any of my Japanese chef's knives and I imagine it takes a while to bring back the edge if you ever need sharpen it.
Despite the hardness, it is a strong steel for its intended use. I sent my Bearclaw to Cedric and Ada Gear & Outdoors for him to check out. You can find the video through a quick UA-cam search. He tests the cutting edge at 2 different angles and discusses the knife.
that isn't wootz steel just because it's carbon blade and that it's a hard steel doesn't make it wootz.if you study wootz you can see this fake not even close to wootz.
Actually, the composition of this steel is almost identical to the traditional Wootz that came from India. Also, it is very similar to the Wootz that was created from the ore mine South of Damascus that the original 'Damascus' Wootz came from. Vanadium was the ingredient that occurred naturally in the Indian ore mines and the one South of Damascus. It may be a 'copied' steel, but it's certainly not 'fake'.
@@BradGryphonn You can't tell if there's the Wootz pattern or not. Wootz also has a distinctive crystalline internal structure; I don't know if Wootz can be heat treated that high without disturbing it.
@@mikegarwood8680 Not the pattern, the composition of the steel. The pattern means nothing. The mineral and elemental components of the steel are the focus. Granted, it may not be identical, but the research that went into creating this composition is more than any other maker has done.
I love Rosellis products!
Lovely outdoors knife 💕!
Ese sí es un cuchillo!!! Saludos
It had better be nice and sharp before you head out, because at 68hrc you'll have a hell of a time sharpening it in the bush.
I find the Roselli knives amongst the easist to sharpen.
@@shaundouglas2057 68HRC is incredibly hard. Most bushcraft knives fall into the 56-60 range.
I've never heard of a 68HRC knife. It would be too brittle for practical use.
Maybe the poster meant to say 58HRC.
@@rossogden9920 I bought a few years back the smaller hunter version of this knife and using a standard sharpening stone I´m able to put a very sharp edge on it within a couple of minutes. I´ve rarely had knives that easy to sharpen.
@@rossogden9920 It genuinly is supposedly 65-68hrc, and its something about the steel Roselli uses for these. Its not your typical carbon steel. I have heard some people experimenting with ultra hard steels. I think one small time knife maker here in youtube made, and sold 70 hrc knife. The poster even mentions its extremely hard, and hardest knife they sell. 58 wouldnt be anything special
@@shaundouglas2057 I don't doubt that you were able to put a nice edge on it. What I doubt is that fact that the knife is actually 68hrc
It’s not real wootz just high carbon
I only complaint about this particular knife is that it's not a full tang knife making it for weaker than other bushcraft/hunting knives that are on the market
Also the process of making woots Damascus steel has been lost to time so it's most probably a fake technique or a imitation of some kind the actual process of making real woots steel isn't known yet scientists are still trying to figure out how they made the original steel that is found in museums and the process behind making it
They have already. Search for Al Pendray and John Verhoeven here.
Yeah i personally think its just marketing thing. Thats one reason im not massively interested in these even though many here in finland seems to like them because im bit of history buff, and calling some modern steel "wootz" is bit off putting. I have also more practical reason just by looking at roselli handles they are maybe not for my hand, and their bare blades that i could make my own handle, and sheath for are way over prized i think