STOP using PLA for 3D printing

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  • @lordjeffery10
    @lordjeffery10 Рік тому +1511

    This is like saying stop driving your car and start driving a forklift

    • @ryangagnon5489
      @ryangagnon5489 Рік тому +13

      assuming you mean its only good for certain tasks, a high shore flexible like tpu can be actually really stiff, and the great layer adhesion of tpu make it a good contender for a daily driver. a good way to think about tpu's strength would be like trying to break a car tire by hitting it.

    • @knifeboygamer1200
      @knifeboygamer1200 10 місяців тому +9

      No literally the time it takes to print flexible filament through even direct drive takes way longer than pla or pla+ nah i only print flexible when i really need to bcuz it’s flexible it needs to print slower otherwise it oozes out the sides basically a forklift could never go the speed of a car

    • @ryangagnon5489
      @ryangagnon5489 10 місяців тому +2

      @@knifeboygamer1200 what flexible are you using? i print my TPU at the same speed as pla and its great

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ryangagnon5489 what are you printing it on? If you are printing at 60 mm/s on an ender 3 for example then yeah it will print fine but if you have a fast printer you will have to slow down when printing TPU or get a high flow rate optimised TPU.
      In your first comment you are only thinking about strength as in impact strength, there is a lot more too it than that. Even a high hardness TPU won’t be as stiff as a regular PLA or even PETG. For the most part flexibles are not suitable as an all round filament, they are only suitable when flexibility is needed or durability without too much stiffness is needed. A lot of functional parts wouldn’t work if printed out of a high hardness TPU and TPU isn’t suitable for purely ornamental parts either due to slower printing speeds, and in some ways worse quality. TPU also tends to be more expensive than PLA anyway. There are very good reasons why PLA is the most popular filament and why TPU isn’t used as a general filament.

    • @tyleriscool22
      @tyleriscool22 10 місяців тому +7

      Very good observation, thank you. I sold my car and bought a forklift when I read this.

  • @dracoking5690
    @dracoking5690 Рік тому +1189

    I don’t want to show off a sword then someone bends it

  • @Meh-qe4rw
    @Meh-qe4rw Рік тому +491

    And this is why you should never trust an influencer 💀

  • @Dlorenzo9816
    @Dlorenzo9816 Рік тому +148

    This ad was sponsored by TurboFlex

    • @NightShadeIcewing
      @NightShadeIcewing 9 місяців тому +7

      Normal Filament ❌
      TurboFlex Filament ✅

    • @xmeo209
      @xmeo209 2 місяці тому +3

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    • @Dlorenzo9816
      @Dlorenzo9816 2 місяці тому +1

      @@xmeo209 didn’t even realize I did that🤣🤣

  • @broderp
    @broderp Рік тому +327

    So dumb, I'll stop using PLA, PETG and ASA for structural prints. Sounds like a great plan.

    • @pajamas720
      @pajamas720 Рік тому +14

      modified pla that's annealed or heat treated is especially underrated. so easy and cheap to print with performance almost as good as petg or abs in all departments.

    • @benkressdesign
      @benkressdesign 10 місяців тому +8

      @@pajamas720 except heat resistance, UV, etc... PLA is not considered an engineering material for several reasons.

    • @pajamas720
      @pajamas720 10 місяців тому +4

      @@benkressdesign uv, yeah thats a good point. Heat resistance, not when its annealed lol. Pretty much out performs anything short of nylon and PC... as long as you dont need dimensionally accurate prints.
      I think my original point was this guy was dunking on pla when the tpu he recommended is much harder and more expensive to print and isnt really stiff for some applications. Plus that will soften up further with heat too.

    • @benkressdesign
      @benkressdesign 10 місяців тому +3

      @@pajamas720 That is true about the annealing, no doubt. And don't get me wrong... PLA has its place, but so do the other filaments. I print mostly ASA because of its properties that cannot be achieved with PLA as easily, such as single wall strength and weight. it just works better for my applications.
      Yeah, I agree with the fact that you aren't replacing PLA with TPU and nobody should. TPU is great too, but when you need to build a structure, best not to use pool noodles to do so (TPU). lol

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@benkressdesignif you print it with max infil it will be more akin to a rubber mallet than a pool noodle

  • @Midnight_horrors885
    @Midnight_horrors885 Рік тому +419

    No it’s more expensive more prone to jamming and more difficult to print overall

    • @CatBot007
      @CatBot007 Рік тому +12

      Yeah every time i print flex I use my 0.8mm nozel

    • @user-xv1vm5xc1f
      @user-xv1vm5xc1f Рік тому

      Probably toxic

    • @elitewolverine
      @elitewolverine Рік тому +5

      if you don't know how to work a printer, sure

    • @Midnight_horrors885
      @Midnight_horrors885 Рік тому +35

      @@elitewolverine even with knowing how a printer works the material still jams up no matter what you do to prevent it just proves that you don’t know what your talking about

    • @elitewolverine
      @elitewolverine Рік тому +8

      @@Midnight_horrors885 laughs in ability to print tpu. If you are jamming, your retraction is bad, and get a direct drive. I jammed it once when I was doing a retraction test. Since then, I simply hit print and walk away.

  • @Theboizsoftusa
    @Theboizsoftusa Рік тому +144

    This video is why I have trust issues

  • @LordNerfherder
    @LordNerfherder 8 місяців тому +4

    Now tell them about the additional costs, hardships and requirements that comes with printing TPU etc. They'll really enjoy this with their unenclosed cheap hobby printer.

  • @tanyaknipe7174
    @tanyaknipe7174 Рік тому +23

    I don't see the point of this shorts at all.
    The guys doesn't explain what's the difference between Normal Filament and
    Flexible Filament? Nor does he say Why its better either? He doesn't say either which 3d printers its good for or even what this Flexible Filament even do? Or even a range of colours it even comes in. So, until these are addressed I ain't buying anything until these are addressed. Good luck to. I'm sure not many people would buy from this guy either

    • @whywouldtheylie
      @whywouldtheylie Рік тому

      If you can’t see the implications then………you’re dumb. Hahaha. Nah but when trying to make resin molds from your 3d prints, you’re making a piece that won’t break or snap. You don’t have to waste filament trying to make them more solid or flexy by changing the infill.

    • @Leo-gt1bx
      @Leo-gt1bx 7 місяців тому +1

      Short are a terrible format

  • @ArcangelZero7
    @ArcangelZero7 Рік тому +23

    This is peak modern youtube.
    "DANGER EMERGENCY OMG PANIC
    ...ok now that you're looking, buy my sponsored thing I guess..."

  • @BH-LGB
    @BH-LGB 10 місяців тому +28

    Anyone notice he hit the first one A LOT harder?😂

    • @laurenbraswell7208
      @laurenbraswell7208 Місяць тому

      Yeah, if you hit them with the same force the 2nd one would crack.

  • @HelloGoobie
    @HelloGoobie Рік тому +20

    Thanks, used Flexible Filament and my shelves on my printed brackets now bounce.

    • @davidd2661
      @davidd2661 8 місяців тому +3

      At least they won't fall in an earthquake

  • @ThatMailMan
    @ThatMailMan Рік тому +28

    *At least one duck was harmed in the making of this video.

  • @thisisalexsin
    @thisisalexsin Рік тому +11

    Was the point of this video just to be pointless?

  • @tcreations8116
    @tcreations8116 Рік тому +45

    Some good points in here but I haven't seen anyone mention that PLA has the highest tensile strength of any of the standard filaments. (ABS, PETG, NYLON, ASA etc.) So no we're not going to stop using it.

    • @superskrub4209
      @superskrub4209 8 місяців тому +1

      Tensile Strength doesn't matter 99% of the time. What's more likely: something stretches your print until it necks and breaks, or something hits your print really hard (including the ground)? Are you exclusively printing hooks?

    • @tcreations8116
      @tcreations8116 7 місяців тому

      What material property do you think resists stretching up until necking and breaking? You say tensile strength doesn't matter 99% of the time then claim your prints fail due to tensile weakness. This isn't even true but it supports my point even more lol

    • @superskrub4209
      @superskrub4209 7 місяців тому +1

      @@tcreations8116 ??? *I never claimed my prints fail due to tensile weakness.* As a matter of fact, I've literally never seen something neck and break irl.

    • @tcreations8116
      @tcreations8116 7 місяців тому

      "What's more likely: something stretches your print until it necks and breaks"

    • @superskrub4209
      @superskrub4209 7 місяців тому

      @@tcreations8116 Ok, but that's not a claim. I'm arguing that the toughness of "flexible" filaments is generally more useful than the tensile strength of more brittle filaments like PLA. Only things like hooks and ropes need a lot of tensile strength, while toughness is useful for anything that might be hit or fall hard.

  • @stankooij6989
    @stankooij6989 Рік тому +16

    Will you pay for it then?

  • @REDWOLF_RC_ARMORY
    @REDWOLF_RC_ARMORY Рік тому +5

    You’re not gunna like having you’re extruder and nozzle clogged 24/7 and having endless issues and horrendous print speed I think I’m just going to stick with pla

  • @bigdaddy6229
    @bigdaddy6229 Рік тому +6

    You forgot to mention you need a direct drive to use flexible filament

    • @imhi_
      @imhi_ 7 місяців тому

      My ender3 pro can't do this

  • @Nobody26_
    @Nobody26_ Рік тому +4

    Bro really said “TURBOFLEX”

  • @meemkade
    @meemkade Рік тому +7

    Tpu causes
    Extruder jams
    Stringing
    Any articulated or movable part will not function
    Is too expensive
    Not saying tpu is bad, but using it mainly is

  • @markitus2876
    @markitus2876 2 роки тому +44

    But it's more expensive 😥

    • @zindustries
      @zindustries  2 роки тому +4

      Like a few bucks 😅

    • @Midnight_horrors885
      @Midnight_horrors885 Рік тому +16

      @@zindustries it’s also harder to print less reliable and jams a lot

    • @KushLuv93
      @KushLuv93 Рік тому +4

      ​@BigIron amen to that it is

    • @davidd2661
      @davidd2661 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@zindustriesshut up

  • @keepitsimpleideaguy8676
    @keepitsimpleideaguy8676 6 місяців тому +2

    I guess unless you need a rigid part. And don’t mind waiting extra time to print. And don’t mind paying more. And have a printer that will print flex filament. I think I’m going to go ahead and keep using PLA

  • @Dumb_Unfortunate_Man
    @Dumb_Unfortunate_Man Місяць тому +2

    Im gonna continue using PLA because I dont smash my builds with a hammer

  • @Foxardo
    @Foxardo Рік тому +6

    1 why 2 pla its cheaper 3 flex filament is prone to james most buget printers cant use it

    • @johnparkes2452
      @johnparkes2452 Рік тому +3

      How is it prone to James what will James do

    • @zUltra3D
      @zUltra3D 11 місяців тому

      ​@@johnparkes2452he will clog your nozzle

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 10 місяців тому

      James Buget must be some French guy

    • @davidd2661
      @davidd2661 8 місяців тому

      ​@@rodiculous9464James Most Buget😅

  • @tonybloodloss
    @tonybloodloss Рік тому +42

    Try breaking pla with 100 density and 4 walls and we'll talk, lol.

    • @rickybobbyracing9106
      @rickybobbyracing9106 11 місяців тому +10

      I printed my monitor mount in TPU. Now I no longer have a monitor :D

    • @sphygo
      @sphygo 9 місяців тому

      Why do you need 4 walls if it has 100% infill?

    • @tonybloodloss
      @tonybloodloss 9 місяців тому

      @@sphygo I agree, that's an overkill, but i did it on purpose, to show a situation, where pla can actually be strong.

  • @MrRedGuy001
    @MrRedGuy001 9 місяців тому +2

    Normal duck: 😣👎
    TURBOFLEX DUCK:🤑👍✅✅

  • @Mrsniperbanana
    @Mrsniperbanana Місяць тому +1

    Stop stopping at a stop sign instead wait for it to turn green

  • @branch_society
    @branch_society Рік тому +4

    yeah i think i will because i always hit my prints with a hammer going mach one

  • @iampinball3669
    @iampinball3669 Рік тому +16

    No, PLA is cheaper and biodegradable

    • @zUltra3D
      @zUltra3D 11 місяців тому

      No it isn't. It's biodegradable in industrial composting conditions and very precise ones at that. It will not decompose in the environment. AllPHA filament claims it will however.

    • @iampinball3669
      @iampinball3669 11 місяців тому +3

      @@zUltra3D then it’s cheaper and compostable

    • @zUltra3D
      @zUltra3D 11 місяців тому

      @@iampinball3669 *under industrial composting conditions

  • @IamusTheFox
    @IamusTheFox 8 місяців тому +2

    The comments are better than the content.

  • @Unthusiast
    @Unthusiast 10 місяців тому +4

    "no ducks were harmed"
    nahhh I CLEARLY saw lil bros life end

  • @Allan-um7kk
    @Allan-um7kk 2 місяці тому

    Easy for you to say, flexi filiment is expensive while pla is reasonably cheap

  • @LoneKuroRaifu
    @LoneKuroRaifu Рік тому +5

    .....it destroys your nozzles faster...

    • @imhi_
      @imhi_ 7 місяців тому

      And duck too

  • @jakehero4
    @jakehero4 Рік тому +3

    ofc big brain if i print a extending / collapsing sword i want it to be flexible so that the end parts fall out. and its just harder to print

  • @lilmoth2012
    @lilmoth2012 2 місяці тому +1

    you have found the golden duck you are now safe from whoever moves first is gay thank me later

  • @vvhitevvabbit6479
    @vvhitevvabbit6479 6 місяців тому

    While the OP didn't provide any context, he's mostly correct. A TPU with 99D shore hardness will give you nearly the same rigidity of PLA for most projects, but without the fragility. For anything that isn't super thin, a high shore hardness TPU is certainly better; it is more durable, prints beautifully, doesn't clog, and you don't need direct drive to print it. I like using a 98A TPU for most things. When I started using it, I questioned why I used PLA for so long. PLA has its place, but I think most would be surprised by the number of applications where TPU is superior.

  • @Catm416
    @Catm416 Рік тому +4

    Rather not

  • @zUltra3D
    @zUltra3D 11 місяців тому

    Both have their roles. I wouldn't want to use TPU for holding heavy stuff..

  • @darkshock42mlg05
    @darkshock42mlg05 6 місяців тому

    Flexible vs PLA really depends on what you're trying to do. For more mission critical tings or structural things you need a hard fillament. For instance i do airsoft and for a mag addapter it needs to be hard. For statues and knickknacks, you can use flexible fillament. Also plan is the easiest to print

  • @xLegoCraftx
    @xLegoCraftx 8 місяців тому +1

    Can you tell the name of the filament that you made the yellow duck with?

  • @mil0saurrrr
    @mil0saurrrr 11 місяців тому

    “No duck were harmed” YOU JS SMASSHED THE PLA ONE 😭😭

  • @VikiJ375
    @VikiJ375 3 місяці тому

    But u can use flexible filament only for closing 3d printer

  • @f2loffical
    @f2loffical 2 місяці тому +1

    remember : you can just use pla and dont smash it 👍㊗️

  • @Okayblue
    @Okayblue 2 місяці тому

    "*no ducks where harmed in this video*"
    The duck who got its hesd decapitated:👁️👄👁️

  • @mrziggy8177
    @mrziggy8177 Рік тому +6

    Who hits their prints with a hammer😂

    • @christhorney
      @christhorney Рік тому

      I did once when I was testing the different infills lol, cubic ftw!

    • @IamusTheFox
      @IamusTheFox 8 місяців тому

      Zindustries. Not sure who they are though.

  • @lennyface987
    @lennyface987 7 місяців тому +1

    Tpu makes stringing and is not usable for gears eg.

  • @rdvancoban5230
    @rdvancoban5230 Рік тому +1

    Who told you tpu was a replacement for pla?

  • @iNekizalb
    @iNekizalb Рік тому +1

    Not if you have a Bowden extruder, you'll have to deal with a lot of stringing and bad surface finish

  • @_Error_404_Goodbye
    @_Error_404_Goodbye 3 місяці тому

    I’ll stop using PLA when a cheaper, stronger less toxic material comes along to replace it lol

  • @austinteal3645
    @austinteal3645 10 місяців тому +1

    Stop spreading miss information!

  • @GeorgeJacks2012
    @GeorgeJacks2012 10 місяців тому +1

    STOP driving diesel/normal petrol cars! Instead, drive ELECTRIC cars.
    Edit: Whoops I might've predicted the future

  • @dudewhodoesstuff2
    @dudewhodoesstuff2 2 місяці тому +1

    I dont wanna shoot a nerf gun and have it wobble every time i shoot it

  • @michawasiljew6620
    @michawasiljew6620 9 місяців тому +1

    Stop telling people to stop.

  • @JesusAlwayssss
    @JesusAlwayssss 2 дні тому +1

    Poor ducky ❤

  • @Augrills
    @Augrills Місяць тому

    Stop hitting your duck with a mallet, and then PLA is fine

  • @xtalviper
    @xtalviper 6 місяців тому +1

    STOP telling me what to do.

  • @peterkallend5012
    @peterkallend5012 6 місяців тому

    What if I don't want flexible parts? What if I'm not going to be hitting my print with a hammer? This is stupid. Use the filament that's appropriate for the intended purpose. Stop telling people things that can lead them down the wrong path. Trust me, they'll appreciate their freedom even more.

  • @subject_changed4690
    @subject_changed4690 Рік тому +1

    That was one hollow print

  • @stalina6884
    @stalina6884 9 місяців тому

    HE KILLED THE DUCKS!!!!!!!

  • @AkiTsukita
    @AkiTsukita Рік тому +1

    I thought he gonna say PETG.

  • @JacobKinsley
    @JacobKinsley 10 місяців тому +1

    Influencer, opinion discarded.

  • @russnbish
    @russnbish 11 місяців тому

    TPU isn’t perfect for all prints. It depends what you’re making.

  • @SBvice
    @SBvice 11 місяців тому +1

    You could also try not smash your prints with a hammer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @AirsoftAirhead
    @AirsoftAirhead Місяць тому +1

    TURBOFLEX DUCK

  • @Gunshot115
    @Gunshot115 Рік тому +6

    No

  • @TheMeister308
    @TheMeister308 Рік тому +1

    Tpu is cool but it’s never gonna be a replacement for pla because it’s not supposed to be lol

  • @Mrpopop1634
    @Mrpopop1634 Місяць тому

    Every type of filament has its own uses

  • @michaelthorsby
    @michaelthorsby 11 місяців тому +1

    Worst advise ever

  • @TheRandomChannel1357
    @TheRandomChannel1357 11 місяців тому +1

    TPU for the win!!!

  • @paulbunyangonewild7596
    @paulbunyangonewild7596 8 місяців тому

    I mean, i have a bog standard off the shelf ender 3 (got it this christmas) and one of the first filaments i got for it was a tpu (for doll bags and accessories) and it works great so far, couple of problems though, on steeper over hangs it just goes all stringy, which for a typical monster high head basically means the whole bottom back of the head, looks infected almost, same deal with pla but at least then i can design around ig.

  • @mr.artive
    @mr.artive Рік тому +1

    No l like PLA 😊

  • @Meuh974
    @Meuh974 Місяць тому

    😶 i stoped using PLA but not for that reason.
    PLA is biodegradable, and it shatter within 4 years. My first prints (in PLA) are all gone in dust, that means it was a total waste of time printing, sanding, and painting them.

  • @moahammad1mohammad
    @moahammad1mohammad 3 місяці тому

    No FDM out of the box is gonna print flexible filament

  • @noodle5880
    @noodle5880 11 місяців тому

    I’m sure my gears will mesh really well with TPU…

  • @yeogames6076
    @yeogames6076 11 місяців тому

    Thanks! I’ll remember this every time that i want to smash my VALORABLE print with a Hammer.

  • @MrPThePenguinBoss
    @MrPThePenguinBoss 4 місяці тому

    Its like saying stop breathing air you should breathe water because theres 70% water in your body

  • @ChozoSR388
    @ChozoSR388 8 місяців тому

    Wha- no! #1, it's all I have right now #2, I don't have, nor can I afford at the moment, a direct drive extruder, #3, I'm still just getting the hang of PLA, and #4, I'll keep using PLA just because you told me not to.

  • @CreartzStudio
    @CreartzStudio 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the tip

  • @Sebastiansimp567
    @Sebastiansimp567 2 місяці тому

    No one gonna smash it with a 200 pound hammer reapetedly tho😭😭

  • @theycallmedday1645
    @theycallmedday1645 3 місяці тому

    TPU, very nice material, I just started printing with it on my 4th print atm (24 hr print full size mask) 🤓 prior to that I sure only PLA for wall masks, now I want to make wearable masks that are sturdy and can take a bit of damage (nothing crazy) 🙂‍↕️

  • @Scooter-Pro-Tricks
    @Scooter-Pro-Tricks 7 місяців тому

    Continue to use people like because it is good for helmets and it is also good for guns. You don't want to floppy gun, this guy isn't really explaining why I don't see why we should switch to this when all we're gonna have are floppy guns. My profile picture is literally a 3D permit gun. I don't want more floppy guns. I don't want a gun. That is just going to be flopping. Around people are going to look at me like i'm stupid

  • @MrCookie-sr8pp
    @MrCookie-sr8pp Місяць тому

    Flexible filament is very hard to print. Especially if u dont have 3d printing expirience. Dont use pla but petg. Its good enough

  • @I_am_Seek
    @I_am_Seek 15 днів тому

    Are you a 3d printer? Because, you could 3d print me a child

  • @Mwellmac
    @Mwellmac Місяць тому

    Your so right... flexible filament made my glock lowers so much better...

  • @sufankavrak991
    @sufankavrak991 2 місяці тому

    İm just scared of single z. İm searching best printed for over 2 month and still cant find best one for me now what should i buy s1 plus or v3 ke?

  • @Green_bed
    @Green_bed 9 місяців тому

    I wish I could but I have an A1 Mini and it can’t handle tpu so whenever I give someone a collapsing sword it just breaks 😭

  • @HotChocolate10685
    @HotChocolate10685 4 місяці тому

    I want to go for the environmentally conscious option. Use PLA. It’s better and also cheaper.

  • @Sunset-i2n
    @Sunset-i2n 2 місяці тому

    "No ducks was harmed in this video" YOU HARMED THE ORANGE RED ISH DUCK

  • @SierraRail3Prod
    @SierraRail3Prod 2 місяці тому

    I'll want to use foam for my Freddy Fazbear cosplay then.

  • @Edsreaction
    @Edsreaction 2 місяці тому

    Stop using your hands to drive a car, and instead take a beginner who doesn’t know how to drive a car properly and force that person to drive for you!

  • @Im-completely-fine
    @Im-completely-fine 12 днів тому

    Your glasses turbo flex glasses you’re bringing the trend back💀

  • @LucaThePupineer
    @LucaThePupineer 7 місяців тому

    Have you heard of bowden printers everyone knows they cant print as well and some cant even print tpu without mods

  • @SkyJediimages
    @SkyJediimages Місяць тому

    Flexible filament is harder to print with and why would i want my 18 inch tall mario models i sell to be flexible

  • @WyattBarrinton
    @WyattBarrinton 4 місяці тому

    No ducks were harmed BUT YOU SMASHED ONE WITH A HAMMER!!!

  • @shanel104
    @shanel104 Рік тому +1

    Gold duck actually likes when that happens

  • @alvodisco
    @alvodisco Рік тому +2

    Nah

  • @MatteBlackSilhouette
    @MatteBlackSilhouette Рік тому

    You have no idea what I'm printing. How can you suggest what filament i should use?

  • @Mr.LowBudget
    @Mr.LowBudget Рік тому

    but i cant afford to spend 250 dollars on a kilo of filament

  • @Averagebloxy
    @Averagebloxy 2 місяці тому

    Flexible filament would only be used for like grips and cup holders

  • @crimsoncrescentmoonreviews5381
    @crimsoncrescentmoonreviews5381 10 місяців тому

    I had no idea you could use Pokemon Legends Arceus, as 3D printer Material!