assuming you mean its only good for certain tasks, a high shore flexible like tpu can be actually really stiff, and the great layer adhesion of tpu make it a good contender for a daily driver. a good way to think about tpu's strength would be like trying to break a car tire by hitting it.
No literally the time it takes to print flexible filament through even direct drive takes way longer than pla or pla+ nah i only print flexible when i really need to bcuz it’s flexible it needs to print slower otherwise it oozes out the sides basically a forklift could never go the speed of a car
@@ryangagnon5489 what are you printing it on? If you are printing at 60 mm/s on an ender 3 for example then yeah it will print fine but if you have a fast printer you will have to slow down when printing TPU or get a high flow rate optimised TPU. In your first comment you are only thinking about strength as in impact strength, there is a lot more too it than that. Even a high hardness TPU won’t be as stiff as a regular PLA or even PETG. For the most part flexibles are not suitable as an all round filament, they are only suitable when flexibility is needed or durability without too much stiffness is needed. A lot of functional parts wouldn’t work if printed out of a high hardness TPU and TPU isn’t suitable for purely ornamental parts either due to slower printing speeds, and in some ways worse quality. TPU also tends to be more expensive than PLA anyway. There are very good reasons why PLA is the most popular filament and why TPU isn’t used as a general filament.
modified pla that's annealed or heat treated is especially underrated. so easy and cheap to print with performance almost as good as petg or abs in all departments.
@@benkressdesign uv, yeah thats a good point. Heat resistance, not when its annealed lol. Pretty much out performs anything short of nylon and PC... as long as you dont need dimensionally accurate prints. I think my original point was this guy was dunking on pla when the tpu he recommended is much harder and more expensive to print and isnt really stiff for some applications. Plus that will soften up further with heat too.
@@pajamas720 That is true about the annealing, no doubt. And don't get me wrong... PLA has its place, but so do the other filaments. I print mostly ASA because of its properties that cannot be achieved with PLA as easily, such as single wall strength and weight. it just works better for my applications. Yeah, I agree with the fact that you aren't replacing PLA with TPU and nobody should. TPU is great too, but when you need to build a structure, best not to use pool noodles to do so (TPU). lol
@@elitewolverine even with knowing how a printer works the material still jams up no matter what you do to prevent it just proves that you don’t know what your talking about
@@Midnight_horrors885 laughs in ability to print tpu. If you are jamming, your retraction is bad, and get a direct drive. I jammed it once when I was doing a retraction test. Since then, I simply hit print and walk away.
Now tell them about the additional costs, hardships and requirements that comes with printing TPU etc. They'll really enjoy this with their unenclosed cheap hobby printer.
I don't see the point of this shorts at all. The guys doesn't explain what's the difference between Normal Filament and Flexible Filament? Nor does he say Why its better either? He doesn't say either which 3d printers its good for or even what this Flexible Filament even do? Or even a range of colours it even comes in. So, until these are addressed I ain't buying anything until these are addressed. Good luck to. I'm sure not many people would buy from this guy either
If you can’t see the implications then………you’re dumb. Hahaha. Nah but when trying to make resin molds from your 3d prints, you’re making a piece that won’t break or snap. You don’t have to waste filament trying to make them more solid or flexy by changing the infill.
Some good points in here but I haven't seen anyone mention that PLA has the highest tensile strength of any of the standard filaments. (ABS, PETG, NYLON, ASA etc.) So no we're not going to stop using it.
Tensile Strength doesn't matter 99% of the time. What's more likely: something stretches your print until it necks and breaks, or something hits your print really hard (including the ground)? Are you exclusively printing hooks?
What material property do you think resists stretching up until necking and breaking? You say tensile strength doesn't matter 99% of the time then claim your prints fail due to tensile weakness. This isn't even true but it supports my point even more lol
@@tcreations8116 ??? *I never claimed my prints fail due to tensile weakness.* As a matter of fact, I've literally never seen something neck and break irl.
@@tcreations8116 Ok, but that's not a claim. I'm arguing that the toughness of "flexible" filaments is generally more useful than the tensile strength of more brittle filaments like PLA. Only things like hooks and ropes need a lot of tensile strength, while toughness is useful for anything that might be hit or fall hard.
You’re not gunna like having you’re extruder and nozzle clogged 24/7 and having endless issues and horrendous print speed I think I’m just going to stick with pla
I guess unless you need a rigid part. And don’t mind waiting extra time to print. And don’t mind paying more. And have a printer that will print flex filament. I think I’m going to go ahead and keep using PLA
No it isn't. It's biodegradable in industrial composting conditions and very precise ones at that. It will not decompose in the environment. AllPHA filament claims it will however.
While the OP didn't provide any context, he's mostly correct. A TPU with 99D shore hardness will give you nearly the same rigidity of PLA for most projects, but without the fragility. For anything that isn't super thin, a high shore hardness TPU is certainly better; it is more durable, prints beautifully, doesn't clog, and you don't need direct drive to print it. I like using a 98A TPU for most things. When I started using it, I questioned why I used PLA for so long. PLA has its place, but I think most would be surprised by the number of applications where TPU is superior.
Flexible vs PLA really depends on what you're trying to do. For more mission critical tings or structural things you need a hard fillament. For instance i do airsoft and for a mag addapter it needs to be hard. For statues and knickknacks, you can use flexible fillament. Also plan is the easiest to print
What if I don't want flexible parts? What if I'm not going to be hitting my print with a hammer? This is stupid. Use the filament that's appropriate for the intended purpose. Stop telling people things that can lead them down the wrong path. Trust me, they'll appreciate their freedom even more.
I mean, i have a bog standard off the shelf ender 3 (got it this christmas) and one of the first filaments i got for it was a tpu (for doll bags and accessories) and it works great so far, couple of problems though, on steeper over hangs it just goes all stringy, which for a typical monster high head basically means the whole bottom back of the head, looks infected almost, same deal with pla but at least then i can design around ig.
😶 i stoped using PLA but not for that reason. PLA is biodegradable, and it shatter within 4 years. My first prints (in PLA) are all gone in dust, that means it was a total waste of time printing, sanding, and painting them.
Wha- no! #1, it's all I have right now #2, I don't have, nor can I afford at the moment, a direct drive extruder, #3, I'm still just getting the hang of PLA, and #4, I'll keep using PLA just because you told me not to.
TPU, very nice material, I just started printing with it on my 4th print atm (24 hr print full size mask) 🤓 prior to that I sure only PLA for wall masks, now I want to make wearable masks that are sturdy and can take a bit of damage (nothing crazy) 🙂↕️
Continue to use people like because it is good for helmets and it is also good for guns. You don't want to floppy gun, this guy isn't really explaining why I don't see why we should switch to this when all we're gonna have are floppy guns. My profile picture is literally a 3D permit gun. I don't want more floppy guns. I don't want a gun. That is just going to be flopping. Around people are going to look at me like i'm stupid
This is like saying stop driving your car and start driving a forklift
assuming you mean its only good for certain tasks, a high shore flexible like tpu can be actually really stiff, and the great layer adhesion of tpu make it a good contender for a daily driver. a good way to think about tpu's strength would be like trying to break a car tire by hitting it.
No literally the time it takes to print flexible filament through even direct drive takes way longer than pla or pla+ nah i only print flexible when i really need to bcuz it’s flexible it needs to print slower otherwise it oozes out the sides basically a forklift could never go the speed of a car
@@knifeboygamer1200 what flexible are you using? i print my TPU at the same speed as pla and its great
@@ryangagnon5489 what are you printing it on? If you are printing at 60 mm/s on an ender 3 for example then yeah it will print fine but if you have a fast printer you will have to slow down when printing TPU or get a high flow rate optimised TPU.
In your first comment you are only thinking about strength as in impact strength, there is a lot more too it than that. Even a high hardness TPU won’t be as stiff as a regular PLA or even PETG. For the most part flexibles are not suitable as an all round filament, they are only suitable when flexibility is needed or durability without too much stiffness is needed. A lot of functional parts wouldn’t work if printed out of a high hardness TPU and TPU isn’t suitable for purely ornamental parts either due to slower printing speeds, and in some ways worse quality. TPU also tends to be more expensive than PLA anyway. There are very good reasons why PLA is the most popular filament and why TPU isn’t used as a general filament.
Very good observation, thank you. I sold my car and bought a forklift when I read this.
I don’t want to show off a sword then someone bends it
Swords bend though
@@KrispyDev ok
tbh better than showing a sword then someone snaps it
@@dracoking5690 no
@@theyhatedHimcuzHetoldtheTruth ???
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@@xmeo209 didn’t even realize I did that🤣🤣
So dumb, I'll stop using PLA, PETG and ASA for structural prints. Sounds like a great plan.
modified pla that's annealed or heat treated is especially underrated. so easy and cheap to print with performance almost as good as petg or abs in all departments.
@@pajamas720 except heat resistance, UV, etc... PLA is not considered an engineering material for several reasons.
@@benkressdesign uv, yeah thats a good point. Heat resistance, not when its annealed lol. Pretty much out performs anything short of nylon and PC... as long as you dont need dimensionally accurate prints.
I think my original point was this guy was dunking on pla when the tpu he recommended is much harder and more expensive to print and isnt really stiff for some applications. Plus that will soften up further with heat too.
@@pajamas720 That is true about the annealing, no doubt. And don't get me wrong... PLA has its place, but so do the other filaments. I print mostly ASA because of its properties that cannot be achieved with PLA as easily, such as single wall strength and weight. it just works better for my applications.
Yeah, I agree with the fact that you aren't replacing PLA with TPU and nobody should. TPU is great too, but when you need to build a structure, best not to use pool noodles to do so (TPU). lol
@@benkressdesignif you print it with max infil it will be more akin to a rubber mallet than a pool noodle
No it’s more expensive more prone to jamming and more difficult to print overall
Yeah every time i print flex I use my 0.8mm nozel
Probably toxic
if you don't know how to work a printer, sure
@@elitewolverine even with knowing how a printer works the material still jams up no matter what you do to prevent it just proves that you don’t know what your talking about
@@Midnight_horrors885 laughs in ability to print tpu. If you are jamming, your retraction is bad, and get a direct drive. I jammed it once when I was doing a retraction test. Since then, I simply hit print and walk away.
This video is why I have trust issues
Now tell them about the additional costs, hardships and requirements that comes with printing TPU etc. They'll really enjoy this with their unenclosed cheap hobby printer.
I don't see the point of this shorts at all.
The guys doesn't explain what's the difference between Normal Filament and
Flexible Filament? Nor does he say Why its better either? He doesn't say either which 3d printers its good for or even what this Flexible Filament even do? Or even a range of colours it even comes in. So, until these are addressed I ain't buying anything until these are addressed. Good luck to. I'm sure not many people would buy from this guy either
If you can’t see the implications then………you’re dumb. Hahaha. Nah but when trying to make resin molds from your 3d prints, you’re making a piece that won’t break or snap. You don’t have to waste filament trying to make them more solid or flexy by changing the infill.
Short are a terrible format
This is peak modern youtube.
"DANGER EMERGENCY OMG PANIC
...ok now that you're looking, buy my sponsored thing I guess..."
Anyone notice he hit the first one A LOT harder?😂
Yeah, if you hit them with the same force the 2nd one would crack.
Thanks, used Flexible Filament and my shelves on my printed brackets now bounce.
At least they won't fall in an earthquake
*At least one duck was harmed in the making of this video.
Was the point of this video just to be pointless?
Some good points in here but I haven't seen anyone mention that PLA has the highest tensile strength of any of the standard filaments. (ABS, PETG, NYLON, ASA etc.) So no we're not going to stop using it.
Tensile Strength doesn't matter 99% of the time. What's more likely: something stretches your print until it necks and breaks, or something hits your print really hard (including the ground)? Are you exclusively printing hooks?
What material property do you think resists stretching up until necking and breaking? You say tensile strength doesn't matter 99% of the time then claim your prints fail due to tensile weakness. This isn't even true but it supports my point even more lol
@@tcreations8116 ??? *I never claimed my prints fail due to tensile weakness.* As a matter of fact, I've literally never seen something neck and break irl.
"What's more likely: something stretches your print until it necks and breaks"
@@tcreations8116 Ok, but that's not a claim. I'm arguing that the toughness of "flexible" filaments is generally more useful than the tensile strength of more brittle filaments like PLA. Only things like hooks and ropes need a lot of tensile strength, while toughness is useful for anything that might be hit or fall hard.
Will you pay for it then?
😂
You’re not gunna like having you’re extruder and nozzle clogged 24/7 and having endless issues and horrendous print speed I think I’m just going to stick with pla
You forgot to mention you need a direct drive to use flexible filament
My ender3 pro can't do this
Bro really said “TURBOFLEX”
Tpu causes
Extruder jams
Stringing
Any articulated or movable part will not function
Is too expensive
Not saying tpu is bad, but using it mainly is
But it's more expensive 😥
Like a few bucks 😅
@@zindustries it’s also harder to print less reliable and jams a lot
@BigIron amen to that it is
@@zindustriesshut up
I guess unless you need a rigid part. And don’t mind waiting extra time to print. And don’t mind paying more. And have a printer that will print flex filament. I think I’m going to go ahead and keep using PLA
Im gonna continue using PLA because I dont smash my builds with a hammer
1 why 2 pla its cheaper 3 flex filament is prone to james most buget printers cant use it
How is it prone to James what will James do
@@johnparkes2452he will clog your nozzle
James Buget must be some French guy
@@rodiculous9464James Most Buget😅
Try breaking pla with 100 density and 4 walls and we'll talk, lol.
I printed my monitor mount in TPU. Now I no longer have a monitor :D
Why do you need 4 walls if it has 100% infill?
@@sphygo I agree, that's an overkill, but i did it on purpose, to show a situation, where pla can actually be strong.
Normal duck: 😣👎
TURBOFLEX DUCK:🤑👍✅✅
Stop stopping at a stop sign instead wait for it to turn green
yeah i think i will because i always hit my prints with a hammer going mach one
No, PLA is cheaper and biodegradable
No it isn't. It's biodegradable in industrial composting conditions and very precise ones at that. It will not decompose in the environment. AllPHA filament claims it will however.
@@zUltra3D then it’s cheaper and compostable
@@iampinball3669 *under industrial composting conditions
The comments are better than the content.
"no ducks were harmed"
nahhh I CLEARLY saw lil bros life end
Easy for you to say, flexi filiment is expensive while pla is reasonably cheap
.....it destroys your nozzles faster...
And duck too
ofc big brain if i print a extending / collapsing sword i want it to be flexible so that the end parts fall out. and its just harder to print
you have found the golden duck you are now safe from whoever moves first is gay thank me later
While the OP didn't provide any context, he's mostly correct. A TPU with 99D shore hardness will give you nearly the same rigidity of PLA for most projects, but without the fragility. For anything that isn't super thin, a high shore hardness TPU is certainly better; it is more durable, prints beautifully, doesn't clog, and you don't need direct drive to print it. I like using a 98A TPU for most things. When I started using it, I questioned why I used PLA for so long. PLA has its place, but I think most would be surprised by the number of applications where TPU is superior.
Rather not
Both have their roles. I wouldn't want to use TPU for holding heavy stuff..
Flexible vs PLA really depends on what you're trying to do. For more mission critical tings or structural things you need a hard fillament. For instance i do airsoft and for a mag addapter it needs to be hard. For statues and knickknacks, you can use flexible fillament. Also plan is the easiest to print
Can you tell the name of the filament that you made the yellow duck with?
“No duck were harmed” YOU JS SMASSHED THE PLA ONE 😭😭
But u can use flexible filament only for closing 3d printer
remember : you can just use pla and dont smash it 👍㊗️
"*no ducks where harmed in this video*"
The duck who got its hesd decapitated:👁️👄👁️
Who hits their prints with a hammer😂
I did once when I was testing the different infills lol, cubic ftw!
Zindustries. Not sure who they are though.
Tpu makes stringing and is not usable for gears eg.
Who told you tpu was a replacement for pla?
Not if you have a Bowden extruder, you'll have to deal with a lot of stringing and bad surface finish
I’ll stop using PLA when a cheaper, stronger less toxic material comes along to replace it lol
Stop spreading miss information!
STOP driving diesel/normal petrol cars! Instead, drive ELECTRIC cars.
Edit: Whoops I might've predicted the future
I dont wanna shoot a nerf gun and have it wobble every time i shoot it
Stop telling people to stop.
Poor ducky ❤
Stop hitting your duck with a mallet, and then PLA is fine
STOP telling me what to do.
What if I don't want flexible parts? What if I'm not going to be hitting my print with a hammer? This is stupid. Use the filament that's appropriate for the intended purpose. Stop telling people things that can lead them down the wrong path. Trust me, they'll appreciate their freedom even more.
That was one hollow print
HE KILLED THE DUCKS!!!!!!!
I thought he gonna say PETG.
Influencer, opinion discarded.
TPU isn’t perfect for all prints. It depends what you’re making.
You could also try not smash your prints with a hammer. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TURBOFLEX DUCK
No
Tpu is cool but it’s never gonna be a replacement for pla because it’s not supposed to be lol
Every type of filament has its own uses
Worst advise ever
TPU for the win!!!
I mean, i have a bog standard off the shelf ender 3 (got it this christmas) and one of the first filaments i got for it was a tpu (for doll bags and accessories) and it works great so far, couple of problems though, on steeper over hangs it just goes all stringy, which for a typical monster high head basically means the whole bottom back of the head, looks infected almost, same deal with pla but at least then i can design around ig.
No l like PLA 😊
😶 i stoped using PLA but not for that reason.
PLA is biodegradable, and it shatter within 4 years. My first prints (in PLA) are all gone in dust, that means it was a total waste of time printing, sanding, and painting them.
No FDM out of the box is gonna print flexible filament
I’m sure my gears will mesh really well with TPU…
Thanks! I’ll remember this every time that i want to smash my VALORABLE print with a Hammer.
Its like saying stop breathing air you should breathe water because theres 70% water in your body
Wha- no! #1, it's all I have right now #2, I don't have, nor can I afford at the moment, a direct drive extruder, #3, I'm still just getting the hang of PLA, and #4, I'll keep using PLA just because you told me not to.
Thanks for the tip
No one gonna smash it with a 200 pound hammer reapetedly tho😭😭
TPU, very nice material, I just started printing with it on my 4th print atm (24 hr print full size mask) 🤓 prior to that I sure only PLA for wall masks, now I want to make wearable masks that are sturdy and can take a bit of damage (nothing crazy) 🙂↕️
Continue to use people like because it is good for helmets and it is also good for guns. You don't want to floppy gun, this guy isn't really explaining why I don't see why we should switch to this when all we're gonna have are floppy guns. My profile picture is literally a 3D permit gun. I don't want more floppy guns. I don't want a gun. That is just going to be flopping. Around people are going to look at me like i'm stupid
Flexible filament is very hard to print. Especially if u dont have 3d printing expirience. Dont use pla but petg. Its good enough
Are you a 3d printer? Because, you could 3d print me a child
Your so right... flexible filament made my glock lowers so much better...
İm just scared of single z. İm searching best printed for over 2 month and still cant find best one for me now what should i buy s1 plus or v3 ke?
I wish I could but I have an A1 Mini and it can’t handle tpu so whenever I give someone a collapsing sword it just breaks 😭
I want to go for the environmentally conscious option. Use PLA. It’s better and also cheaper.
"No ducks was harmed in this video" YOU HARMED THE ORANGE RED ISH DUCK
I'll want to use foam for my Freddy Fazbear cosplay then.
Stop using your hands to drive a car, and instead take a beginner who doesn’t know how to drive a car properly and force that person to drive for you!
Your glasses turbo flex glasses you’re bringing the trend back💀
Have you heard of bowden printers everyone knows they cant print as well and some cant even print tpu without mods
Flexible filament is harder to print with and why would i want my 18 inch tall mario models i sell to be flexible
No ducks were harmed BUT YOU SMASHED ONE WITH A HAMMER!!!
Gold duck actually likes when that happens
Nah
You have no idea what I'm printing. How can you suggest what filament i should use?
but i cant afford to spend 250 dollars on a kilo of filament
Flexible filament would only be used for like grips and cup holders
I had no idea you could use Pokemon Legends Arceus, as 3D printer Material!