I never cut the shaft of my sticks until about a year ago. I got a Jusse Saros pro return stick and the shaft was about 2.5 inches shorter than another pro return stick I got at the same time. At first, I was a bit disappointed until I tried the stick. The shorter stick was a major game-changer for me. All of a sudden I could shoot the puck easier because I could get my blocker arm more level to the ice for better leverage instead of having my elbow pointing straight up in the air since the stick was too tall. I cut all of my stick shafts to match the Saros stick after that.
that’s actually so funny, the guy you showed that needs to be your guy for skate sharpening is actually my guy! The picture you have is the guy that does my skates
Some days I really miss being "the guy" for sharpening at the sports store I used to work at. Saturday morning sharpening lines were insane, but I loved it. The best customers were the ones who brought coffee along with their skates. One extra pass with the Gusto Glide for those folks.
For me, I’ve always used a knob that allows the shaft to have enough clearance to pick it up when dropped. I also like the stopping factor when I go to shoot. I can throw the stick down getting ready to shoot and my blocker hand locks at the top because I can easily feel it. Paddle down isn’t enough reason for a small knob, but that’s just me.
Steve, totally agree 100% Myth on cutting shaft of stick. Ive cut the shafts as a shorter goalie 5' 4" my whole life for exactly the reasons you mention. Never tossed off the balance, also really small knob, so i could paddle down with no gap between shaft and ice. Good tips for all the young goalies out there.
Great vid! Thanks for the info. Totally agree with the cutting the stick. It makes sense since everyone has a different sized knob which will affect the weight/balance of a stick anyway.
Thanks. It is my beater and my wife named it the “Snot Rocket” because of the pukey green color. I’m first job as kid was cutting grass to by own goalie pads and I leaned to drive a 3 on the tree in a very similar truck to this. So even though I have a Ford GT, I prefer driving this baby.
I recall way back in the day it was common to have a huge nob on the stick to help you pick it up when dropped. It held the shaft up off the ice so you could get your paddle hand on the stick easier. We didn't use the paddle down technique back then. So I think that may be where that idea came from.
This is the most important video for goalies. Literally the 2 things I fought with people while working at the hockey store. Young goalies buying sticks that were too big and people wanting specific sharpening without knowing what they were talking about. Sharp means clean, period the end. Hollow depth is not sharpness.
Great video! I have noticed that I have the opposite issue with goalie sticks. Because of the blocker, when paddle down, there is a gap between the stick handle and the ice, even with a small knob.
@@FutureProGoaltending ...maybe it's the brownies I just ate...but there are a lot of chuckle lines in this whole video...my 44 year old self knows what you mean and it's a great video, but the 12 year old version of me is split down the side...lol...
Love the advice. My problem is I am 6'1", and I use a 27.5" Warrior (just got a 28" True to try). I have seen the advice of a lot of goalies going shorter with their sticks (some my size going down to a 25-26"). I have long arms and shorter sticks in the butterfly cause my arm and blocker to feel completely unnatural in position - too far down and in to keep the blade flat on the ice. I do have a 26" sitting around that I may have to try during a drop-in some time. As for sharpening skates, I used to be a manager/zamboni driver at my local rink at nights for 15 years while working my normal job during the day, I haven't worked there in 4 years but thankfully everyone knows me and I still just walk in and sharpen my own skates so I know they are done right.
ThePegLeggedPirate Stick sizing is very personal, and you will land on something comfortable with experimentation. And being the master of your own domain by sharpening your own skates is awesome. Wish I learned back in the day. Thanks for watching
Awesome info Steve. Especially being new to a goalie. Not a smart thing at 55 years old but I love it! I have no time to practice and learn during games. Your tips will help my game. The Fire Dept. league I play in is tough to please! LOL Thanks again.
Agree with everything other than using a machine. I have an older Sparx that hasn’t let me down yet. It’s consistent and just so convenient. Maybe at the pro level they can tell a difference, but I can’t at the beer league level
been cutting my sticks since 1997... when I came back to hockey in 2015, continue to do so.... Skates have been a patrick roy cut since 95... well, 95-05. I have no idea what that cut was, my mom knew. Wish I had all my Roy info she had. Super sharp, loved it, other goalie thought I was nuts. Skates are Sharpen every 3 to 4 games for me.
@@FutureProGoaltending Oh no, Im not smart by any means, all credit for the stick goes to my ex goalie coach (Mr. Gerzy From Czech) And all the Roy stuff, totally My mom. how tjhat woman got the info, dont know.
Great vid Keeks . All valuable information especially on how to size the paddle when in the butterfly. I was doing it the old school way . Although I don't do a butterfly save . For me it's the moth . Thanks again . Btw - nice truck
Great advice all around! I recently switched from Sherwood to CCM for sticks found the same curve and lie but was surprised the shaft was longer but being a newer style its most likely giving extra room for cutting it down. Was hoping you would mention a bit on the radius of the rocker for blades... not sure how many goalies change from stock but I get “my guy” to give me a bit of forward lean. I feel flat footed and less mobile otherwise, might be a touchy subject for some. Glad I found your channel, your pro tips for younger goalies are perfect, should make many play smarter not harder! Favourite drill so far was the karate bag smacking around Trav haha first time I’ve ever seen that but a perfect drill in many ways just missing the guy banging in those juicy rebounds!
04boostedcert thanks.. profiling the blade is very individual and I always used stock but I think setting your balance with profiling is a great thing to do if you are struggling with balance issues etc
“Vaughn paid you $ 50,000 to NOT wear their stuff in public”. LOL 😂. With the dead pan delivery that was a good one. Just enough humour in there so that you’re not reaching for it. The big paddle and six hole I experienced by buying some clearance sticks that were too big for me. Great tip. Keep up the great vids FPG 🍻
I cut my shafts. I play the pucks a lot. Make my own trigger grip. Been doing this since I was 15 playing Jr Blues. 41 now still do all this. But that truck is clean
Great infos, thanks! Didn’t know that stuff about sticks. With skates, I use 3/4” as a player but 3/8” as a goalie. There’s no way I could use 3/4 in net- it would be slip n slide for me😃
I remember my dad telling me not to run my finger down the edge of my skate blade when I was about 10 back in about 1987. The very next practice I did exactly that! Bled all over the place. Never told him about it though.🤦😂😂
The benefits of working at an ice rink is I can do my skates by myself (however for my goalie skates I generally have another guy do them for me because he is flawless when he does skates), for free, and pretty much as often as I want.
Great advice Steve!! I had the same guy do my skates from atom to JR and then to beer league. Heck he even did my Sons from pee wee to last year of midget sadly he passed away the year my son went to JR. So it was tough to find a new skate guy. When it comes to picking sticks nobody wanted to go with me I was super picky and took my time superstition I guess. My son is doing the same thing. PS thank you for your knowledge that you are passing on. As soon as the sports store opens I will get you a picture of that giant stick for your large pads.
even if it did affect the balance it would be minimal i think.. could always put something at the knob to counterbalance it if needed, like how a sword uses a pommel . when i was young i liked to have a really heavy stick, usually a Hextall Sherwood.. when i had a lighter stick i actually put lead tape under the hockey tape on the blade to add weight
Man thanks for clarifying the dull skate myth. Always thought there was something wrong with the way I played because when I started, I had the older style pads (Sherlite 10's), which feels a hell of a lot wider and more difficult to slide than the new style pads. Coupled with dull skates and I was sliding out a lot. Now my go to is a 3/8 sharpen and occasionally I still get weird looks at the skate shop lol Any thoughts on sharpening machines you can buy to sharpen at home?
Yes, Yes, YES! A vid I actually asked for! & a Myth buster as well! Great job! Also liked the cinematic shots during the drive. & Agreed on having a ‘Guy’... well said, Bud!
Goalie Reaper here to serve!😎 thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.... I may have to do a behind the scenes on how these things are done. From watching Trav and the the stuff I do I would say, about 5 % of the b roll stuff shot, drone stuff actually end up in the final product...these are actually fun to make and learn each one.
FutureProGoaltending Well much appreciated! You are doing a great job, it’s all paying off & a round about way you are showing the young guns that there is always room to learn & grow. Inspiration! That BTS vid would be very interesting as well! Was thinking bout starting my own channel but apprehensive. Keep it up!
Great video on mods Keeks! I'm not sure if you read these comments but I have a question and I'd like to know you're opinion (maybe a video on this). I grew up playing forward and I am a right handed shooter but playing net I catch left handed. I've tried almost everything from buying full right gloves and trying to catch full right (didnt feel " natural" to me), i tried using full right sticks and flipping it around to shoot the puck but its not ideal on a fast play and the rebound on a reverse curve is just awful. Finally i just decided to just learn to shoot left but it makes my puck handling "mediocre" and i often choose to just not play the puck. Any thoughts on the matter? Maybe you've coached someone with the same dilemma or know an nhl'er that had to go through this? Last bit of info, I'm just a beer leaguer now. Hope this helps, love your vids and keep learning from Trav, your videos are looking great.
Patrick D Yes, I certainly do read the comments and I’m here’re to help anytime. Send me an email with your cell to info@futurepro.com and I will call you to help with your puckhandling issue.
This is what I've been waiting for Thank You. I've been using a 5/8 hollow snce I can remember, I think I'll try 1/2 when we get back to it. I''m 5' 8" with a 25' paddle. I ciut 3/4 inch off my shaft.How to you feel about a 14 lie for me, which is what I'm using. It feels pretty good to me. any tweeks you'd suggest? I also use a very small knob to burry it in my blocker when shooting.
Hey coach is there a limit on the length of a stick shaft? I am surprised Roger Neilson never gave one of his goalies a stick with a very long shaft late in a game to mess with the other team and perform a long distance poke check :)
yes there is. And I'm sure Roger thought of it. He had Palmateer lay down his stick parallel to the goal line when he pulled him late in the game to prevent a long slider from going in. That was quickly outlawed...
Thank you. I have heard about flat bottom V but the only real thoughts on that would be again, finding a consistent guy you trust who does it and if there are any tangible benefits would the juice be worth the squeeze finding a consistent repeatable result.
@@FutureProGoaltending I have found it gives more variables that you can adjust how you want.. I get it done at a good shop, Hockeybase here in Jyväskylä Finland, they have a former goalie on staff so the first time I had them done with his recommendation and have made slight adjustments from there with good results
I think if the availability expands it will be another great option to tweak your edges how you want them. My student, Ed Belfour was the king of skate blade tweaks... his inside and outside edges has different HEIGHTs depending on where on the blade you looked.
I tried to go from a low end 27" composite to a 25" high end foam core which was lighter. It helps getting stuck under my leg pads in the butterfly during play. I haven't cut my shaft down either because I touch the goal for spacial awareness. I down play the puck much but I'm trying to get better at it and was just trying to things out. Any suggestions on that would be appreciated.
You should still be able to tap off with a little shorter shaft. If your knees land on the stick in the butterfly it isn’t really about the paddle height. You just need to keep a 12” gap between your stick blade so your knees have room to hit clean ice.
Hey Stevo, I gotta a question. I have a precious angel of a son. He's 13 and is a second year peewee c team goalie. He absolutely refuses to get his skates sharpened. Because freshly sharpened skates make it too hard to shuffle. Honestly, is my kid just being a pus... I mean a sensitive flower? Or is this common for the age group? Any suggestions? Besides physical violence. Which I'm all for. But the law tends to frown on. Yes, I'm the get off my lawn guy. Thanks
Using dull skates 100% guarantees he will never get out of minor hockey. It is his choice, but there isn’t one goalie playing junior, college or higher with dull skates. Maybe try a less shallow hollow, so even freshly sharpened skates will bite in the ice less. The inability to use sharp skates means his edge control hasn’t been developed as of yet. I wouldn’t spend any money on expensive gear, camps, clinics or lessons if he continues in this direction. It would be like putting money into fixing up a 1972 pinto. 😎
I once made sweet love to my girlfriend in the back of a pinto! Point taken though. The precious angel started sharpening his skates after reading your response to my question. It literally transformed his game. So much so. He made the bantam B2 team this year. Which is huge. Considering he's played on the C team throughout his goalie career. You're the man Steve! I appreciate your advice and content. From the "get off my lawn" guy.
And Steve; again, follows one great video with yet another! Careful Steve; we may start to expect that throughout your future downloads - could put added pressure on you when your clicking the enter button! Regarding skate sharpening: I’ve been lucky enough to find ‘my guy’ (just as anal as I am) who takes a lot of pride in his work. He’s not the fastest at his profession; but he’s well worth the wait. BTW, I also had an incident with fingers along freshly sharpened blades. I destroyed the resale value on my previous pads by readjusting my toe strap during a game. Without realizing it, my finger ran along the edge and created a really good cut. To the point where the blood was all over one of my pads before realizing what happened.
Hope you are doing well Larry and looking forward to growing the videos with you in the adult niche. There are so many great things to be taught that can be very specific to that segment. I still to this day see kids completely oblivious to the dangers of these blades especially since skate sharpening technology has come so far. It is the exact reason why you are seeing so many gruesome injuries lately like that OHL kid who was sliced in the thigh. Ttyl 😎
Like deep V bottom, profiling and pitch are extremely personal and impossible to recommend across the board. They are great if you can get them dialed in by someone you trust. However, I think many, many goalies have far bigger pressing issues...
@@FutureProGoaltending wait, wait, wait. Hold up. You mean to tell me that I should worry more about being fat and out of shape to become a better athlete rather than a magic profile that would turn me into Carey Price? Ppffftt
@@OldFogeyGoalie ah, great minds think alike.... just like those fixating on how CP straps his pads, and the mods, while unable master skating fundamentals. It is like the guy on the golf course always with the latest, greatest equipment, but can’t hit the fairway or put to save his life.
@@OldFogeyGoalieBased on your comments I feel pretty safe asking you a stupid question: I’m an old head, a scrub, and a wannabe… What’s the right hollow for someone learning butterfly on pretty good ice? I know it’s not going to stop me from skating like a newborn giraffe but I at least want to feel confident answering the question at the sharpener. Thanks 🤙
@@MC-24 generally if you asked to have your skates sharpened, and don’t specify, you will end up with either a 1/2” or 5/8” depending on your location. For me, neither was “sharp” enough, and I was constantly pulling groin muscles when learning to butterfly push. Just couldn’t get enough bite. Today I go with a 5/16 after trying everything in between. It makes shuffles across the top of the crease very taxing, but I get a lot of bite and strong pushes down on my knees. Hope that helps.
"Find your guy!" Facts! Three weeks ago, the brainless teenager at a certain chain hockey outlet decide to sharpen my blades, which are thicker than regular player skates (4mm), with a standard wheel. I stepped on the ice and almost ate sh×t instantly. Zero edges on the inside of the blade. Was thankfully able to wangle a way to get just enough edge to play the game, but I won't be taking that shortcut again.
TendyStyle which explains why he has mediocre movement skills by NHL standards. He is a big body who battles for pucks and is a super competitive guy. But if you mimic his skate sharpening you will be sorely regretful.... EvERY other goalie in the NHL uses razor sharp skates...😎
Just has a parent berate me in the lobby as she took her kid to the ER for stitches. Apparently, not watching every kid wipe off their blades correctly was a faux pas that set off “Karen”..😳
"Not an expert by any means"
- Steve Mckichan, former NHL goalie and NHL goalie coach
Such a humble guy haha. Thanks for the content Steve!
Couldn't agree more!
I can really see the influence trav had on your editing; Great stuff, keep it up :)
Armin Hansarian very long way to go.... thanks for the feedback. I think you’ll love tomorrow’s video
I never cut the shaft of my sticks until about a year ago. I got a Jusse Saros pro return stick and the shaft was about 2.5 inches shorter than another pro return stick I got at the same time. At first, I was a bit disappointed until I tried the stick. The shorter stick was a major game-changer for me. All of a sudden I could shoot the puck easier because I could get my blocker arm more level to the ice for better leverage instead of having my elbow pointing straight up in the air since the stick was too tall. I cut all of my stick shafts to match the Saros stick after that.
Happy accident
that’s actually so funny, the guy you showed that needs to be your guy for skate sharpening is actually my guy! The picture you have is the guy that does my skates
Yup
Some days I really miss being "the guy" for sharpening at the sports store I used to work at. Saturday morning sharpening lines were insane, but I loved it. The best customers were the ones who brought coffee along with their skates. One extra pass with the Gusto Glide for those folks.
Kris Rogers Once they had a guy they can trust like you they were set
For me, I’ve always used a knob that allows the shaft to have enough clearance to pick it up when dropped. I also like the stopping factor when I go to shoot. I can throw the stick down getting ready to shoot and my blocker hand locks at the top because I can easily feel it.
Paddle down isn’t enough reason for a small knob, but that’s just me.
Great tips . Thanks from an ambidextrous tendy in the maritimes.. 😊
God’s country!
Steve, totally agree 100% Myth on cutting shaft of stick. Ive cut the shafts as a shorter goalie 5' 4" my whole life for exactly the reasons you mention. Never tossed off the balance, also really small knob, so i could paddle down with no gap between shaft and ice. Good tips for all the young goalies out there.
Tits McGee Thanks Tits... 😎
Great vid! Thanks for the info. Totally agree with the cutting the stick. It makes sense since everyone has a different sized knob which will affect the weight/balance of a stick anyway.
Pete Galindez thanks for watching
Awesome info! Thanks for the great video!
GOALIE GAINS thank you
I have to say. Your truck is really cool
Thanks. It is my beater and my wife named it the “Snot Rocket” because of the pukey green color. I’m first job as kid was cutting grass to by own goalie pads and I leaned to drive a 3 on the tree in a very similar truck to this. So even though I have a Ford GT, I prefer driving this baby.
I recall way back in the day it was common to have a huge nob on the stick to help you pick it up when dropped. It held the shaft up off the ice so you could get your paddle hand on the stick easier. We didn't use the paddle down technique back then. So I think that may be where that idea came from.
Yup.
This is the most important video for goalies. Literally the 2 things I fought with people while working at the hockey store. Young goalies buying sticks that were too big and people wanting specific sharpening without knowing what they were talking about. Sharp means clean, period the end. Hollow depth is not sharpness.
Shawn Giles thanks Shawn!
Great video! I have noticed that I have the opposite issue with goalie sticks. Because of the blocker, when paddle down, there is a gap between the stick handle and the ice, even with a small knob.
You can muscle stick hard into ice and flex it so it seals
Appreciate the video and reply! I’m not sure if you mentioned this but is there a preferred way to cut the stick? In terms of tool used
Knob in palm. That sounds like a revolution to me. Can't wait to get on the beer league ice and give it a try. Thanks!
Jared Moore it is not for everyone, but most of the best puckhandlers have small knobs. Give it a shit and let me know how you do
@@FutureProGoaltending ...maybe it's the brownies I just ate...but there are a lot of chuckle lines in this whole video...my 44 year old self knows what you mean and it's a great video, but the 12 year old version of me is split down the side...lol...
Love the advice. My problem is I am 6'1", and I use a 27.5" Warrior (just got a 28" True to try). I have seen the advice of a lot of goalies going shorter with their sticks (some my size going down to a 25-26"). I have long arms and shorter sticks in the butterfly cause my arm and blocker to feel completely unnatural in position - too far down and in to keep the blade flat on the ice. I do have a 26" sitting around that I may have to try during a drop-in some time. As for sharpening skates, I used to be a manager/zamboni driver at my local rink at nights for 15 years while working my normal job during the day, I haven't worked there in 4 years but thankfully everyone knows me and I still just walk in and sharpen my own skates so I know they are done right.
ThePegLeggedPirate Stick sizing is very personal, and you will land on something comfortable with experimentation. And being the master of your own domain by sharpening your own skates is awesome. Wish I learned back in the day. Thanks for watching
Awesome info Steve. Especially being new to a goalie. Not a smart thing at 55 years old but I love it! I have no time to practice and learn during games. Your tips will help my game. The Fire Dept. league I play in is tough to please! LOL Thanks again.
Appreciate you watching
I love your truck!
Old reliable….
Agree with everything other than using a machine. I have an older Sparx that hasn’t let me down yet. It’s consistent and just so convenient. Maybe at the pro level they can tell a difference, but I can’t at the beer league level
That would be an definite upgrade from the early automatic sharpeners
Great tip Steve and never wipe your blades with your hand
Ian Mckichan thanks Ian... and thanks for pronouncing my name right
THANK YOU FOR THIS !! You put out a lot of great content this one is in my top 10! (This month ..😎👍)
Thanks for watching
been cutting my sticks since 1997... when I came back to hockey in 2015, continue to do so.... Skates have been a patrick roy cut since 95... well, 95-05. I have no idea what that cut was, my mom knew. Wish I had all my Roy info she had. Super sharp, loved it, other goalie thought I was nuts. Skates are Sharpen every 3 to 4 games for me.
Smart before your time
@@FutureProGoaltending Oh no, Im not smart by any means, all credit for the stick goes to my ex goalie coach (Mr. Gerzy From Czech) And all the Roy stuff, totally My mom. how tjhat woman got the info, dont know.
@@jayboogeyman moms know everything
@@FutureProGoaltending aint that the truth sir... Wish you were in ohio, could use a bit of your coaching. Love these videos. keep'em coming.
Great vid Keeks . All valuable information especially on how to size the paddle when in the butterfly. I was doing it the old school way . Although I don't do a butterfly save . For me it's the moth . Thanks again . Btw - nice truck
Michael Pacini thanks!
Great advice all around! I recently switched from Sherwood to CCM for sticks found the same curve and lie but was surprised the shaft was longer but being a newer style its most likely giving extra room for cutting it down. Was hoping you would mention a bit on the radius of the rocker for blades... not sure how many goalies change from stock but I get “my guy” to give me a bit of forward lean. I feel flat footed and less mobile otherwise, might be a touchy subject for some. Glad I found your channel, your pro tips for younger goalies are perfect, should make many play smarter not harder!
Favourite drill so far was the karate bag smacking around Trav haha first time I’ve ever seen that but a perfect drill in many ways just missing the guy banging in those juicy rebounds!
04boostedcert thanks.. profiling the blade is very individual and I always used stock but I think setting your balance with profiling is a great thing to do if you are struggling with balance issues etc
That truck is beautiful
Thanks bobby... she is my all weather beater
“Vaughn paid you $ 50,000 to NOT wear their stuff in public”. LOL 😂. With the dead pan delivery that was a good one. Just enough humour in there so that you’re not reaching for it. The big paddle and six hole I experienced by buying some clearance sticks that were too big for me. Great tip. Keep up the great vids FPG 🍻
coach Joe1035 thanks Joe
It is what it is, and it's educational/literal, as it's a term, but how many takes did this video take, with all the knob talk?
One take
I cut my shafts. I play the pucks a lot. Make my own trigger grip. Been doing this since I was 15 playing Jr Blues. 41 now still do all this. But that truck is clean
too many kids with sticks too long
Great channel
Found you through Trav 👍🏻
King Ghidorah thanks for watching!
Great infos, thanks! Didn’t know that stuff about sticks. With skates, I use 3/4” as a player but 3/8” as a goalie. There’s no way I could use 3/4 in net- it would be slip n slide for me😃
No question and if you play on hard ice it would be worse with the shallow hollow.
I remember my dad telling me not to run my finger down the edge of my skate blade when I was about 10 back in about 1987. The very next practice I did exactly that! Bled all over the place. Never told him about it though.🤦😂😂
The benefits of working at an ice rink is I can do my skates by myself (however for my goalie skates I generally have another guy do them for me because he is flawless when he does skates), for free, and pretty much as often as I want.
Sweet deal! You got your guy!
Great advice Steve!! I had the same guy do my skates from atom to JR and then to beer league. Heck he even did my Sons from pee wee to last year of midget sadly he passed away the year my son went to JR. So it was tough to find a new skate guy. When it comes to picking sticks nobody wanted to go with me I was super picky and took my time superstition I guess. My son is doing the same thing. PS thank you for your knowledge that you are passing on. As soon as the sports store opens I will get you a picture of that giant stick for your large pads.
Thanks for watching the video and nice words. keeks
Love the truck!
Thanks you
Nice truck!!!!
I only have 2 questions..
How many vehicles do you have??
And how do I get a tour of the garage?? Lol
Too many according to my wife... Come see them anytime
@@FutureProGoaltending funny, my wife has the same opinion .. lol ..
Great vid as usual
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video sir 👍
Thank you
Great video!
Thanks Nick and thanks for subscribing
With the lockdown happening, I miss watching my son in goal. Soon maybe he can get some ice time?
Thanks for the info!
Fingers crossed!
Nice truck.
Thank you
Great video
Ethan Cline thanks for watching Ethan
So do you think Hellebuyck is on to something? It seemed crazy at first but i think it makes perfect sense for him or other tall goalies.
If it works for him I think so, but unfortunately too many young goalies copy things without understanding
@@FutureProGoaltending great point!
Anyone suggest the Sparks sharpener? Our local guys are 👎🏽....
John Jay I prefer a trusted human!
I didn't know about the shaft. I did it on my son's stick 2 years ago and a coach said that it would affect the balance of the stick negative.
Hockey is For Fun 👍
even if it did affect the balance it would be minimal i think.. could always put something at the knob to counterbalance it if needed, like how a sword uses a pommel . when i was young i liked to have a really heavy stick, usually a Hextall Sherwood.. when i had a lighter stick i actually put lead tape under the hockey tape on the blade to add weight
Man thanks for clarifying the dull skate myth. Always thought there was something wrong with the way I played because when I started, I had the older style pads (Sherlite 10's), which feels a hell of a lot wider and more difficult to slide than the new style pads. Coupled with dull skates and I was sliding out a lot. Now my go to is a 3/8 sharpen and occasionally I still get weird looks at the skate shop lol
Any thoughts on sharpening machines you can buy to sharpen at home?
I wouldn't mess with those.
Listen, he KNOWS what he's talking about.
My kids don’t listen to me unfortunately…😎
Yes, Yes, YES! A vid I actually asked for! & a Myth buster as well! Great job! Also liked the cinematic shots during the drive. & Agreed on having a ‘Guy’... well said, Bud!
Goalie Reaper here to serve!😎 thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.... I may have to do a behind the scenes on how these things are done. From watching Trav and the the stuff I do I would say, about 5 % of the b roll stuff shot, drone stuff actually end up in the final product...these are actually fun to make and learn each one.
FutureProGoaltending Well much appreciated! You are doing a great job, it’s all paying off & a round about way you are showing the young guns that there is always room to learn & grow. Inspiration! That BTS vid would be very interesting as well! Was thinking bout starting my own channel but apprehensive. Keep it up!
You should go ahead and start your own channel. I can help with advice on how I got started and got to the point of being monetized..
FutureProGoaltending~ That would be awesome! I’d welcome any advice you are willing to share.. Could I shoot you an email from your website?
I might be wrong but the big knob was good for when goalies poke checked..barely no one does it anymore
Micheal maccallum it helped I’m sure. I was a big poke checker and had a small knob...🤪
Great video on mods Keeks! I'm not sure if you read these comments but I have a question and I'd like to know you're opinion (maybe a video on this). I grew up playing forward and I am a right handed shooter but playing net I catch left handed. I've tried almost everything from buying full right gloves and trying to catch full right (didnt feel " natural" to me), i tried using full right sticks and flipping it around to shoot the puck but its not ideal on a fast play and the rebound on a reverse curve is just awful. Finally i just decided to just learn to shoot left but it makes my puck handling "mediocre" and i often choose to just not play the puck. Any thoughts on the matter? Maybe you've coached someone with the same dilemma or know an nhl'er that had to go through this? Last bit of info, I'm just a beer leaguer now. Hope this helps, love your vids and keep learning from Trav, your videos are looking great.
Patrick D Yes, I certainly do read the comments and I’m here’re to help anytime. Send me an email with your cell to info@futurepro.com and I will call you to help with your puckhandling issue.
Do guys ever have a deep hollow but dull off their edges? Just pondering. Love from 🇬🇧
All depends on the hardness if the ice you play on and your edge control, but yes that does happen
@@FutureProGoaltending uk ice tends to be sofffttt
@@shanekiely I would keep super sharp edges but a more shallow hollow to keep you up on top of the ice..IMHO😎
This is what I've been waiting for Thank You. I've been using a 5/8 hollow snce I can remember, I think I'll try 1/2 when we get back to it. I''m 5' 8" with a 25' paddle. I ciut 3/4 inch off my shaft.How to you feel about a 14 lie for me, which is what I'm using. It feels pretty good to me. any tweeks you'd suggest? I also use a very small knob to burry it in my blocker when shooting.
Bob Stafford that all sounds good. Test it and see how it feels after a Few hours
Hey coach is there a limit on the length of a stick shaft? I am surprised Roger Neilson never gave one of his goalies a stick with a very long shaft late in a game to mess with the other team and perform a long distance poke check :)
yes there is. And I'm sure Roger thought of it. He had Palmateer lay down his stick parallel to the goal line when he pulled him late in the game to prevent a long slider from going in. That was quickly outlawed...
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I forgot about that!! If ya ain’t cheating you ain’t tryin’ 😉
I always cut the shaft of my stick in high school and Jr's (around 98-99) and everyone thought I was nuts lol
You were ahead of your time... we always did as a kid in the 80s because we only had adult sticks in our association
Wasnt it Ryan Miller who sharpened his skates once a year?
Nope…. No modern goalie plays on dull skates
@@FutureProGoaltending I thought i read it or saw him say it in an interview many years ago, but im apparently wrong
great advise and sweet truck.. do you have any experience with FBV sharpening?
Thank you. I have heard about flat bottom V but the only real thoughts on that would be again, finding a consistent guy you trust who does it and if there are any tangible benefits would the juice be worth the squeeze finding a consistent repeatable result.
@@FutureProGoaltending I have found it gives more variables that you can adjust how you want.. I get it done at a good shop, Hockeybase here in Jyväskylä Finland, they have a former goalie on staff so the first time I had them done with his recommendation and have made slight adjustments from there with good results
I think if the availability expands it will be another great option to tweak your edges how you want them. My student, Ed Belfour was the king of skate blade tweaks... his inside and outside edges has different HEIGHTs depending on where on the blade you looked.
Speaking of knob I always tell my kids i coach to us white tape.
Because the tar in the black tape damage the palm of your gloves faster.
I had heard that
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I tried to go from a low end 27" composite to a 25" high end foam core which was lighter. It helps getting stuck under my leg pads in the butterfly during play. I haven't cut my shaft down either because I touch the goal for spacial awareness. I down play the puck much but I'm trying to get better at it and was just trying to things out. Any suggestions on that would be appreciated.
You should still be able to tap off with a little shorter shaft. If your knees land on the stick in the butterfly it isn’t really about the paddle height. You just need to keep a 12” gap between your stick blade so your knees have room to hit clean ice.
@@FutureProGoaltending thanks for the reply. I'll give it another try next time I'm suited up
Hey Stevo, I gotta a question. I have a precious angel of a son. He's 13 and is a second year peewee c team goalie. He absolutely refuses to get his skates sharpened. Because freshly sharpened skates make it too hard to shuffle. Honestly, is my kid just being a pus... I mean a sensitive flower? Or is this common for the age group? Any suggestions? Besides physical violence. Which I'm all for. But the law tends to frown on. Yes, I'm the get off my lawn guy. Thanks
Using dull skates 100% guarantees he will never get out of minor hockey. It is his choice, but there isn’t one goalie playing junior, college or higher with dull skates. Maybe try a less shallow hollow, so even freshly sharpened skates will bite in the ice less. The inability to use sharp skates means his edge control hasn’t been developed as of yet. I wouldn’t spend any money on expensive gear, camps, clinics or lessons if he continues in this direction. It would be like putting money into fixing up a 1972 pinto. 😎
I once made sweet love to my girlfriend in the back of a pinto! Point taken though. The precious angel started sharpening his skates after reading your response to my question. It literally transformed his game. So much so. He made the bantam B2 team this year. Which is huge. Considering he's played on the C team throughout his goalie career. You're the man Steve! I appreciate your advice and content. From the "get off my lawn" guy.
And Steve; again, follows one great video with yet another! Careful Steve; we may start to expect that throughout your future downloads - could put added pressure on you when your clicking the enter button!
Regarding skate sharpening: I’ve been lucky enough to find ‘my guy’ (just as anal as I am) who takes a lot of pride in his work. He’s not the fastest at his profession; but he’s well worth the wait. BTW, I also had an incident with fingers along freshly sharpened blades. I destroyed the resale value on my previous pads by readjusting my toe strap during a game. Without realizing it, my finger ran along the edge and created a really good cut. To the point where the blood was all over one of my pads before realizing what happened.
Hope you are doing well Larry and looking forward to growing the videos with you in the adult niche. There are so many great things to be taught that can be very specific to that segment. I still to this day see kids completely oblivious to the dangers of these blades especially since skate sharpening technology has come so far. It is the exact reason why you are seeing so many gruesome injuries lately like that OHL kid who was sliced in the thigh. Ttyl 😎
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Hahaha paid $50K a year to NOT wear their gear in public! 😂😂
yup
@@FutureProGoaltending This needs more info. How did this come about? I see you wore Vaughn in Vancouver
therealneoneddy lame joke meaning I was so brutal no company wanted me to wear their gear in public... 😎
“nowadays, low shots are stopped universally.....” picture of Mikka Kiprusoff
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I went from 27 to 26, much more comfortable for me.
KB_TheDireWolf Goaltending less armpit holes
What about profiling and pitch?
Like deep V bottom, profiling and pitch are extremely personal and impossible to recommend across the board. They are great if you can get them dialed in by someone you trust. However, I think many, many goalies have far bigger pressing issues...
@@FutureProGoaltending wait, wait, wait. Hold up. You mean to tell me that I should worry more about being fat and out of shape to become a better athlete rather than a magic profile that would turn me into Carey Price? Ppffftt
@@OldFogeyGoalie ah, great minds think alike.... just like those fixating on how CP straps his pads, and the mods, while unable master skating fundamentals. It is like the guy on the golf course always with the latest, greatest equipment, but can’t hit the fairway or put to save his life.
@@OldFogeyGoalieBased on your comments I feel pretty safe asking you a stupid question: I’m an old head, a scrub, and a wannabe… What’s the right hollow for someone learning butterfly on pretty good ice? I know it’s not going to stop me from skating like a newborn giraffe but I at least want to feel confident answering the question at the sharpener. Thanks 🤙
@@MC-24 generally if you asked to have your skates sharpened, and don’t specify, you will end up with either a 1/2” or 5/8” depending on your location. For me, neither was “sharp” enough, and I was constantly pulling groin muscles when learning to butterfly push. Just couldn’t get enough bite. Today I go with a 5/16 after trying everything in between. It makes shuffles across the top of the crease very taxing, but I get a lot of bite and strong pushes down on my knees. Hope that helps.
I sharpen my skates about once a month and they are sharp through the whole month
Yup, find the schedule that works for you!
"Find your guy!"
Facts! Three weeks ago, the brainless teenager at a certain chain hockey outlet decide to sharpen my blades, which are thicker than regular player skates (4mm), with a standard wheel. I stepped on the ice and almost ate sh×t instantly. Zero edges on the inside of the blade. Was thankfully able to wangle a way to get just enough edge to play the game, but I won't be taking that shortcut again.
Wow
What did you mean when you said that Vaughn paid you $50k a year to not wear their equipment in public?
zzisis lame joke. Meaning I was so brutal they didn’t want me wearing their gear in public as it would reflect badly on their gear😎
Some of our knobs aren't big enough to lose four inches off the shaft....
Jack Makackov you have spoken to my wife?
“I’ve seen guys with massive knobs”
“Whenever I see a little goalie with a giant shaft”
Lol sounded funny at times but a great video nonetheless.
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Robin Lehner went a full season in Buffalo without sharpening his skates
TendyStyle which explains why he has mediocre movement skills by NHL standards. He is a big body who battles for pucks and is a super competitive guy. But if you mimic his skate sharpening you will be sorely regretful.... EvERY other goalie in the NHL uses razor sharp skates...😎
Why did Vaughn pay not to wear their stuff in public?
Another of my lame jokes.. always worn Vaughn..
What is your last name ?
Rick Nash google future pro....😎
Why would Vaughn pay you not to endorse their product in the public
David Bojarski lame joke making fun of my poor goaltending
@@FutureProGoaltending not a joke you should see my style of goaltending
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I'm trying to watch all your vids today keeks, but all the shaft talk in this one makes me uncomfortable.
Also knobs lol
You wont like the one I’m planning on poke checks...😎
Never wipe your blades off with your bare fingers... off course 😅
every year at the summer camps. at least 2 -3 bleeders.
@@FutureProGoaltending yes, but now I want to hear your story about it... 😅
Just has a parent berate me in the lobby as she took her kid to the ER for stitches. Apparently, not watching every kid wipe off their blades correctly was a faux pas that set off “Karen”..😳
@@FutureProGoaltending oh my... well, I hope it wasn't to deep.