@@keithnayo4582 Dune won't come out until 2028 and that if we're lucky. Dennis want to make something else in between and they're waiting for Timmy C. to look less a teen and more an adult.
Slimer was NOT contained. He was released with all the other ghosts, including the librarian in the first film, when Walter Peck shut down the containment unit. Slimer also made multiple appearances in Ghostbusters 2 and the EXCELLENT Ghostbusters video game which most fans consider the REAL Ghostbusters 3.
@beejay271 Yeah I don't recall them catching the Library📚ghost! They ran out of there so fast LOL with the song by The Bus Boys Cleanin' Up The Town. 👻🚫🧊🎥
@@josephtanner4594 The Original Ghostbusters were in that too albeit cameos and being different characters from an alternate universe LOL! So technically we haven't gotten a Ghostbusters movie as of yet that doesn't include the O.G. Ghostbusters in some form yet!? Maybe the sequel to Frozen Empire?👻🚫🎥🎬
It's crazy that people keep trying to make Ghostbusters family friendly, considering the first movie was SUPER adult. It literally has Dan Aykroyd getting blown by a ghost.
The mini Stay Pufts are such a naked marketing ploy they make Minions look tasteful. The original stay pufts exists solely because of Ray having a random thought that Gozer manifested. But everyone remembers it so.. the studio is like "let's just do what people remember". At least the 80s cartoon show made it a point to come up with new ghosts every episode.
To be fair, Stay Puft came back a couple times (canon-discussions-aside) in the Real Ghostbusters as well, both as a villain, and as an ally. He was a monstrous villain in the episode where Egon’s Uncle Cyrus came to visit (and let him out), and then he was a childlike friend the team was asked to bring out to entertain some kids. He growled and screeched in the former, and talked in the latter. And both times showed he was in the containment unit, when he was clearly destroyed in the movie. Still, did I enjoy seeing Mr. Stay Puft again, hell yeah, I loved the guy, I had a glow in the dark plushie! Hahah, so clearly it worked for us kids back then.
Ghostbusters 2 wasn’t bad in the same way Die Hard 2 wasn’t bad. On their own, they’re fine, entertaining movies. But they’re just beat for beat remakes of the superior first ones
@@chrisstafford365 Don't blame Dan Aykroyd or Harold Ramis for GB2 as they originally didn't want to do a sequel and felt that Ghostbusters was a stand alone film! But due to pressure from Sony pictures and with the success of The Real Ghostbusters animated cartoon they then caved in and wrote the sequel. And if you pay close attention to GB2 you can kind of tell that their hearts weren't in it as much as the original! Bill Murray only did the sequel because he was told the movie would turn out a certain way which it didn't! In a rare interview Murray said that people got to see more slime than us. Back during production of GB 1984 Bill Murray at the time only agreed to be in the first movie if the studio funded his other project Razors Edge which turned out to be a failure. When the filming started Murray wasn't too thrilled until mid-way through the production that Murray started to have a good time making the film. 🎥👻🚫🌆
It's not great but it at least has a fairly unique villain with Vigo and the very weird boss of Sigourney weaver's character. It most suffers from a very bored cast who didn't want to be there and a lot of really lame jokes.
To answer Korey’s question: I think the logic behind the mayor always hating the ghostbusters is that their continued presence attracts ghosts and supernatural beings to them and New York. It’s basically the same type argument that Is used against Batman, that he “ creates “ his villains simply by operating outside of the law himself and being a constant presence.
Or the Same Argument that Vision brought up in Avengers Civil War. Conflict from a Larger force always breeds a Reaction! And Once that Conflict is removed, a new form of Conflict is created.
Remember this writers. Even though the fan will know of this. The average audience would still not. You better be at the top of your writers game to achieve both without making look like a mess or just too stupid.
In the first movie,”Mr. Stay Puft” WAS GOZER!! Gozer allowed the Ghostbusters to choose the “form” it would take to destroy them and the world.Ray chose “Mr. Stay Puft”.
They are obviously attempting to turn Stay Puff guy into the next Baby Yoda. This could lead to Stay Puff getting his own movie in which we learn where he comes from. Totally ridiculous if you ask me. In the original Ghostbusters film Stay Puff was a character that became iconic for his rampage through New York. He was a giant monster who has unfortunately been turned into a cute, adorable gag in the recent films. Yes, I know that in Ghostbusters 1984 Stay Puff was a comedic parody of Godzilla/King Kong type giant movie monsters. However, he was also a threat to the heroes.
I've been stuck at 5:23 for several minutes since the line, "For the first time in New York history, a room full of people froze to death," is so absurd I couldn't believe it legitimately said what I thought it did. They say that as if the only way for this to happen is with a ghost's involvement. ....Are they not aware of winter?
All ghosts are not human. Slimer is a class 5 ghost. He's not human. He's some kind of spirit being from another dimension. Only class 4 ghosts are identified humans.
@@ARuiz-eu3hk Yeah, true 😂... I know Ray and Egon talked about it lightly in the first 2 movies, but back then it went over our heads as kids, we just saw as random movie lines, but there is lots of source material to explain all that in the tabletop games, the comics, ect.
I think it was made by Westend Games, but it's not D20, it uses the regular 6 sided dice; like the old Star Wars tabletop RPG... The rules are super easy to learn and remember. It's a great game. It came out in 1986, then they did a 2nd edition in 1989 to coincide with the GB2 movie, but most fans prefer the 1st edition. The 2nd edition had some good stuff added, but it's a bit more crunchy and not as rules lite as the 1st edition. 1st edition is called "Ghostbusters The Roleplaying Game: A Frightfully Cheerful Roleplaying Game" 😂 The 2nd edition is called "Ghostbusters International" there's a lot of info about them on youtube, wiki, just google it and you find all the info you need. If you playing Tabletop RPGs and you a Ghostbusters fan, I highly recommend it.
Ghostbusters cartoon had one of the scariest characters ever. The Boogie Man. Say what you want but there were actual disturbing horror elements in that cartoon. God I miss Sat mornings.
The Grundel was pretty scary too. The OG real ghostbusters had Cthulhu for FN Sake And extreme Ghostbusters had so many dark and creepy entities the demon clowns, the Evil house that eats people, they tackled the racism/anti-Semitism in the episode a Golem.
it would've happened, but around 1993 he and Harold Ramis had that big falling out while making "Groundhog Day", and they didn't patch things up until Ramis himself was on his deathbed just prior to his untimely passing (hence the reason why Venkman came close to crying when the spirit of Egon Spengler was fighting alongside his old teammates)
Ghostbusters was a result of the right people at the right time. It’s an oddball concept with a wonderfully irreverent pitch: “schlubby exterminators but they catch ghosts”. The whole concept is a joke. ONE joke. This should not have been a franchise.
@@Ionisus I do when it's a good franchise with similar quality in all their movies: Planet of the apes, maze runner series, the first 3 matrix, denis villaneuve dune. I hate superhero movies but I would totally love a black panther vs. Kukulkan franchise just make it humorless,
Saddest part about the firebending is that at least in the previous movies, they made it seem like the ghostbusters resorted to science and ingenuity to defeat the final boss. No semblance of that here. They literally couldn't come up with any kind of creativity. They just said, "Fire guy to beat ice guy. Done. Film it."
It was a parody on the supernatural horror genre, which boomed in the late 70s-early 80s, and a satire on small business and politics, but those are kind of after thoughts to a silly concept made fun.
One reason those ghosts from GB1 might still be around (besides the obvious nostalgia reasons) is because the containment grid was switched off in GB1 and they all got released. That’s from a plot perspective (which I’m guessing they don’t bother to explain). They could have just added one line of dialogue which explained it.
God I hope they do like, "Well back then day our grid got tamper to hell by dickless here. So we still got escapees out there to this day. Ghost are VERY hard to track down once gone. Well except for, uh, Slimer, here. This gluttonous class 5 spud never leaves.
Nostalgia like flashbacks can only be brought back once.Just 1 time after that and you keep doing nostalgia in sequels it gets tiresome because we've seen it the first time it was original.But repeating nostalgia can destroy a franchise in a flash.
We need a rated R “Ghostbusters”. Even something like an “Extreme Ghostbusters” film for an adult audience with a solid balance and of horror, comedy, and high stakes would flip this franchise on its head and possibly navigate it in the right direction. Sick of this family friendly BS.
The mini pufts were explained to an extent, podcast said that ray smuggled them back from Oklahoma. The ones in afterlife all burned up, though some ran away before gozer was trapped so maybe they didn't burn up? P.s. the ghostbusters comic back in the 90's had mini stay pufts long before minions were a thing.
I am a true Ghostbusters fan for over the years and been rewatching the entire cartoon series even Extreme Ghostbusters as well. However, Sony lost sense of the nostalgia content from the old decade of my childhood to inserting sequences for a cheap trick (pun intended of the same name of the band) in making a money laundering scheme to hurt our childhoods. Now, today’s Hollywood just seems doing the wrong things they did by corruptive greed. I pray to my childhood spirit, studios needing to stop making bad movies even ruining our nostalgia stuff.
I'd argue the 2nd Ghostbusters is not a straight up remake, but it does repeat similar stuff. And stuff about it (like the train tunnel sequence and the dancing toaster) is just as memorable. Extreme Ghostbusters was also amazing for what it was, the "2 cool 4 skool" attitude does not overtake the horror aspects and I love the style (done by the artist who did nickelodeons rugrats).
I find it hypocritical to see Patton Oswalt in this movie after he openly criticized David Cross for starring in the Alvin and the Chipmunks trilogy in order to pay his mortgage.
Sequels can be done proper but nobody wants to try anything new and NOBODY wants the same recycled plot lines. No women and for the love of God NO BLACK PEOPLE. So you end up with garbage that's too scared to take risks with something different and not familiar enough to satisfy the hardcore fans. Also fans trashing movies before they come out based on casting, who the director is, cgi, doesn't help studios to take chances either
I have a feeling that Frozen Empire is going to be one of those movies that critics didn't like but the fans absolutely love it just like the Super Mario Bros Movie and the Five Nights at Freddy's Movie
@@finger3181I mean who cares? Not everything is made for everyone,there's no wrong or right about that. Korey and Martin are the same ones who hated the first Aquaman movie but loved the second one. Again not everything is made for everyone
I knew those damn "marshmellow minions" would be the death of this film. And Korey's getting old, his memory is slipping. In this continuity Slimer was always free. He was the very last thing you saw in Ghostbusters and in GB2 he was free and driving the Bus Louis Tulley got on remember?
Also, Slimer never stayed contained. Even in the first movie, he escaped when the containment unit was shut down. He joined the Ghostbusters in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon, and that's why he's with them. Not because of nostalgia but because of the continuity. And yes, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon IS canon with the movies, except 2016. As for the library ghost, they never officially caught her. They didn't have their equipment when they encountered her and never went back. It makes sense to finally go back and settle unfinished business. You're making the movie sound worse than it is because you're unfamiliar with the franchise.
But it doesn't makes sense that the ghost wouldn't have gotten caught. That library is a very busy place in NYC and other people would have called them to catch her.
@fatmanjstyle5306 Which makes no sense considering he was on their side by that point. He befriended them in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon and was with them in 1989 in Ghostbusters 2. He didn't interact with any of the Ghostbusters, but he was in the firehouse, and Lewis interacted with him on the bus cause he knew who he was. Maybe the 2009 game is ignoring the cartoon and second movie. Which would suck cause that makes it non-cannon. Or just separate timeline like the Halloween movies.
@@KahlessTheUnforgettable you have a face only a mother could love . hence why you can't show yourself lol speaking of .. find a hobby kid before i become your step dad and become your moms hot Topic
The Mayor hates the Ghostbusters because the original movie is anti-government and takes a politically conservative perspective that regulation and the government are generally bad.
@@JamesNixon-b7pI hate Peck, but IRL if people were running around with unlicensed nuclear packs- basically WMD- the government would've seized that shit in no time and the Ghostbusters would've been imprisoned for life. The EPA would've been the least of their problems.
Frankly, I'm glad new movies are being made. I was a little kid in the 00s when it was not cool to be a fan, and all I had were two movies and that's it. No toys, cartoons, comics, no costumes, no nothing. All I could do was draw stuff, and to be in a point where its getting so much again is genuinely an amazing feeling. To see critics not get it, sucks.
42:02 An IP can do million of NEW things but all it takes is one call back to something familiar and immediately it's nostalgia porn. From what I heard from people who have seen the movie, Slimer is barely in the movie and yet his dominating the entire conversation. Hardly anyone talking about the NEW villain of the movie, which is in the f**king title. Even if you hate nostalgia, it doesn't have to ruin an entire movie, even if it's little pandering. I don't know whether it's because people have become disillusioned by Star Wars and Marvel and are taking it out on this movie or if there is an existential crisis about modern cinema that's making people overreact when they see anything nostalgic. I have no idea, but something feels off with all this nostalgia bashing.
These are all good points, and Korey is really bad about his inability to distinguish between slight homages to the past and full-on nostalgia; he can’t tell the difference. He’s incapable of giving any franchise films a fair review, so he should avoid even trying to evaluate those films.
@@supoa9489 Yeah, that still isn't an argument as to why it's bad. Simply calling something nostalgia bait is just lazy way not to have an actual argument.
I'm tired of the disrespect the 89 Ghostbusters 2 gets. Granted, it wasn't as good as the first, but it was still a great sequel to the franchise. 🤷🏾♂️
For the record slimer wasn’t contained . He was released in the first one when the containment unit was shut off, and if you recall in the second one he was driving the bus when Louis was on his way to the art museum
Ghostbusters in my opinion has always made the case that it should had been one movie. Unfortunately thanks to the Ghostbusters Cartoon, it has lead to some fans to believe it should be an outgoing series which is not possible to do if you keep on going back to the 1st one or reminds us how better that one was. But as long the fans who love the OG cast are please by even the minimal amount of effort, Sony is gonna keep bringing them back to the point we will probably have all the old cast as CGI Ghosts busting Ghosts.
I'd be fine with Winston and Ray being essentially what they were in this movie, advisors and support for the new team. But this should be their last time in uniform with packs if there's a sequel or more sequels. Ernie Hudson is almost 80!
Ivan Reitman, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, and Bill Murray never intended Ghostbusters to be a franchise film. Columbia Pictures and the success of the cartoon made it a franchise. Columbia forced Ivan Reitman, Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis to make another one to cash in on the success of the cartoon.
10:19 Wrong. Ghostbusters 2 is a great film. Not incredible like the first, but still great. The bar for films was higher back then. But a lot of terrible movies have come out in the last 3 decades. Ghostbusters 2 is overdue for the positive recognition it deserves.
Um that's a bad thing to say about movies, there were a lot of good movies in the last 3 decades so I don't why you're complaining it unless you're one of those think things through type of people
I never said all movies. A lot of terrible movies have come out since Ghostbusters 2. And more movies that have come out recently are terrible, unlike back in the 80's and 90s, which is correct. And I never wear nostalgia glasses. I see things for what they are, objectively.
Actually Slimer broke loose when Walter Peck shut down the containment unit in the first movie. Remember? He was in that hot dog cart and he’s the last thing you see at the end of the first movie. He was secretly living in the Firehouse in the second movie screwing with Rick Moranis but he was never caught again. He may have been living in the Firehouse since 1989. Now you’re totally right about the Marshmallow Man. That has gotten old.
16:03 To Martin's question all the ghosts in Ghostbusters are in a numbered class system 1-7 and 3 categories, a vapor, focused and a repeater. A ghost like a dead person would be a 1 or 2. But the Hells Kitchen Sewer ghost from the beginning of this movie would be a 3, 4 or 5. It's inside baseball unfortunately, if you know you know.
Ghostbusters 2016 was so abysmal it poisoned the well. We probably would've of gotten Extreme Ghostbusters live action but Sony is not going to take any chances after that disaster which lost longtime fans. They are going to play it as safe as possible from now on.
I thought afterlife was taking a chance. For me afterlife had potential, it was a success because many of us prefered the rural setting to yet another action movie destroying new york.
Slimer wasn’t contained. He got out in part two and was driving a bus they never caught him again. And as for the library goes, they never caught her. They first encountered her and ran away. They never went back to catch her
43:17 I said in a Ghostbusters fan group on Facebook a few weeks ago, I'd love to see Ghostbusters do what 'The Fast And The Furious' has done, transition from a movie about street racing to globe trotting adventure movies. A Ghostbusters movie busting ghosts internationally in England, Romania, Haiti, Africa, South America or Asia would be fire.
Not gonna lie, as soon as they mentioned that the Frost Lord guy wasn't gonna get an explanation or any true lore I was out. The main thing I was excited about was having a new villain god to learn about. The nostalgia overdose made it even worse XD. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't probably gonna watch it anyways cause I'm ghostbustered out tbh, but I'm for sure not watching it now.
In terms of a wide range, yes, you're correct - I should've specified. I personally care a shitton about lore and world building, and I won't lie that it's very hard for me to get into a story without those things. I dunno, maybe I'm just the wrong person to ask XD.@@jordanloux3883
Slimer was contained at the beginning of the first movie but as you probably rememeber all Ghosts ware released for the climax. Then he made an apearance in the sequel and was even so kind to drive Louis to the museum in a bus. And the library ghost was never contained in the first place.
I think they need to stop making Ghostbusters movies and need to make Ghostbusters TV shows especially animated seeing how the best Ghostbusters shows are always animated with Real Ghostbusters and Extreme Ghostbusters.
I've also wondered why those mini marshamellow men were still around plus we never got Phobe & Trevor spending time togther as brother & sister I under stand that when siblings reach their teen years they want to do their own thing but these two never interacted that much together. And Korey brought up a good point about the Ghostbusters encountering ghosts who are menacing who don't want to harm anyone & Phobe meeting Lind is a perfect example. Phobe could tell the team Lind isn't out to hurt anyone they could get info from Lind on what it's like being a ghost, why can't she move on & get her incites on other spectors. And I do love that Winston has become the voice of the team whereas it would've been Egon had Harold Ramis not left us Winston is rich & successful & he uses his wealth to help fund the team & build bigger & better facilities for the ghosts they catch.
The family angle is what I loved about afterlife, no way I'm paying to watch this one, the effects don't seem to justify a trip to the dolby theater. I will rewatch Dune instead. God, how difficult as movie theatrical buff to find acceptable scifi to watch at theaters. Hoping Kingdom of the planet of the apes delivers because I'm not for deadpool and the other stuff coming up. #DuneWillOutperformDeadpool
Can’t believe that first film will be 40 years old this June Saw ‘Frozen Empire’ earlier today, wasn’t exactly a full theater and I was shocked it has kids in the audience and my Regal chain had the nerve to show a trailer for Tarot (you’d think they would think twice about a horror movie preview potentially scaring little kids) ‘Afterlife’ made up for the infamous reception of the 2016 entry but overall it felt as a good not great revitalizing of the series It was more slow and self-serious focusing on the granddaughter discovering her roots and the settting in the middle of a small town in the countryside wasn’t exactly inspiring With this movie director Gil Kenan who executive produced the last one has that love for nostalgic callbacks There’s lots of cool little nods and Easter eggs for fans Phoebe does get her own subplot struggling to grow up when everyone is telling her to stay a kid even meeting a seemingly friendly ghost her age The special effects for the ghosts continue to impress and the main threat does look quite scary Yet this does fall short of the previous film not really evolving anything forward and doesn’t take advantage of new ideas it presents It might’ve been better too to cut out so many subplots giving these new characters a chance to breathe Trevor just seems very useless, Lucky barely has anything to do, and Phoebe’s mom and her boyfriend kinda come off as passive not acting like responsible adults Plus you have to get through a solid hour of exposition to get to the ghostbusting itself The movie isn’t quite ‘Ghostbusters 2’ territory and it’s still entertaining seeing the older cast play off the newer ones It just could’ve been a great follow-up given how ‘Afterlife’ balanced it more If they make future plans for the franchise they need to give a lot of things room to breathe properly There’s also a reason why the final product is the way it is according to IMDB trivia: In an interview with Collider, Gil Kenan revealed he did not cut too much from the film, saying "there's only a couple of deleted scenes" the director affirmed the high quality of what he left on the cutting room floor and revealed fans would get to see the scenes when it arrives on digital, blu-ray, and DVD. "Unfortunately, they're great scenes, so it's really hard to do, but they were really necessary to cut for shape and flow. They were fine fantastic scenes that came sort of too late in the film when you really wanted to watch the preparations for the final siege on the firehouse come together. I'm definitely including them in whatever extra materials out later on because I'm proud of the scenes. I'm proud of the performances in them, I'm proud of the directing in them, and I want audiences who are looking for an expanded experience with this film to be able to have those scenes come to be able to assess how they would have fit into the whole. But there's not too many of them, and when you watch them, you realize that the film is better for them, having stood to the side for the greater good.
If you recall, all of the ghosts that were captured in the original movie escaped the containment unit when it was shut off. They never showed them recapturing all of those ghost. This is further implied with the appearance of Slimer at the end of the first film. So I believe that being triggered by "nostalgia" has impeded his review of this movie
GB1 and GB2 are the classic goats of the series. The video game is the third movie we never got,and Afterlife is pretty much where it ended. I feel like Frozen Empire was just too much at this point
They’ll never stop with the nostalgia because you’ll always have those people who praise the hell out of it on social media when something like this comes out. Until those voices become the minority and it reflects in their profits, it won’t change
Maybe you're just being too negative on some things on what people should do and that's not how it works, just let them enjoy it and stop complaining just a little bit? Is that too much to ask?
I can assure you, I’m not complaining. Just observing what I notice when it comes to these reboot/legacy sequels from the last decade or so. At the end of the day it is just a movie and people are gonna watch what they’re gonna watch and I could care less. I have no emotional attachment to Ghostbusters. But seeing as this is a channel dedicated to talking about movies and there’s a public comments section, then yea I’m gonna throw in my two cents of analysis. Any anger/negativity you perceive is purely of your own projection.
Once again I have to go back to the Godzilla franchise, sometimes I think it helps if multiple companies have a share of a franchise, as multiple views can be shown based on the same product. Monsterverse Godzilla is different from your shin, Heisei or anime, Godzilla x Kong looks like it will be doing some nostalgia, based on the showa series (two team wrestling tag match's) where as the anime series did something completely different that my brain could not understand. My point is that companies can see if they just look at what works from what does not.
14:48 - the library ghost was never contained in the movies. They ran off when they confronted her in the original movie and that's the last we saw of her. She WAS contained in the video game. Again, something these 'reviewers' got wrong. I assumed Slimer was stealing those candy bars and bringing them back to the firehouse for some type of nest
I hated Afterlife. The only likeable stuff was Paul Rudd and the OG cast's cameo at the end. Can't decide if i want to see this one. It looks like the OGs are actually going to be in this throughout the movie and I love them. But damn those kids were annoying from Afterlife.
They dont seem to get that Ghostbusters isnt just a movie about fighting ghosts. Its about 4 shlubby guys who spent their lives in academia trying to start their own business
1984: Hollywood releases Ghostbusters & Dune
2021: Hollywood releases Ghostbusters & Dune
2024: Hollywood releases Ghostbusters & Dune
2026: Hollywood releases Ghostbusters & Dune
2028: Hollywood remakes Ghostbusters & Dune
2034: Hollywood makes second Ghostbusters & Dune
No Dune in 2016. I guess we really are ignoring that one Ghostbusters.
@@keithnayo4582 Dune won't come out until 2028 and that if we're lucky. Dennis want to make something else in between and they're waiting for Timmy C. to look less a teen and more an adult.
@@killah_disciple1 Nobody wants to remember the 2016 ghostubsters.
Amazing how history keeps repeating it's self with these things.
Slimer was NOT contained. He was released with all the other ghosts, including the librarian in the first film, when Walter Peck shut down the containment unit. Slimer also made multiple appearances in Ghostbusters 2 and the EXCELLENT Ghostbusters video game which most fans consider the REAL Ghostbusters 3.
@beejay271 Yeah I don't recall them catching the Library📚ghost! They ran out of there so fast LOL with the song by The Bus Boys Cleanin' Up The Town. 👻🚫🧊🎥
NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT!!
But no, you are both correct.
You Forgot About The All The Ghostbusters Movie From 2016 @beejay271 Slimer Was In That Movie Too!
@@josephtanner4594 The Original Ghostbusters were in that too albeit cameos and being different characters from an alternate universe LOL! So technically we haven't gotten a Ghostbusters movie as of yet that doesn't include the O.G. Ghostbusters in some form yet!? Maybe the sequel to Frozen Empire?👻🚫🎥🎬
Agreed. That Ghostbusters videogame is better than the later movies imo.
It's crazy that people keep trying to make Ghostbusters family friendly, considering the first movie was SUPER adult. It literally has Dan Aykroyd getting blown by a ghost.
They are just trying to sell merch to kids.
It was a dark comedy that only worked because it had a great cast
@@matthewheywood8532The concept minus the chemistry and talent of the original cast is lacking and not something I find myself interested in.
Actually Afterlife and Frozen Empire are rated PG-13 though
I would also add that the “Gatekeeper” and “Keymaster” was probably meant to be a sex innuendo.
The mini Stay Pufts are such a naked marketing ploy they make Minions look tasteful. The original stay pufts exists solely because of Ray having a random thought that Gozer manifested. But everyone remembers it so.. the studio is like "let's just do what people remember". At least the 80s cartoon show made it a point to come up with new ghosts every episode.
And that whole scene is someone’s nostalgia trying to kill them
To be fair, Stay Puft came back a couple times (canon-discussions-aside) in the Real Ghostbusters as well, both as a villain, and as an ally. He was a monstrous villain in the episode where Egon’s Uncle Cyrus came to visit (and let him out), and then he was a childlike friend the team was asked to bring out to entertain some kids. He growled and screeched in the former, and talked in the latter. And both times showed he was in the containment unit, when he was clearly destroyed in the movie. Still, did I enjoy seeing Mr. Stay Puft again, hell yeah, I loved the guy, I had a glow in the dark plushie! Hahah, so clearly it worked for us kids back then.
Yet extreme ghostbusters is largely ignored by the fan base, such an underrated series.
Is it? I thought it was a cult classic.
More like ignored by studios. The fans would've been happy with that route.
@@Alice-me2qkcult classic implies it wasn’t well received to begin with
So underrated
If it's a cult classic then it's largely ignored.
Ghostbusters 2 wasn’t bad in the same way Die Hard 2 wasn’t bad. On their own, they’re fine, entertaining movies. But they’re just beat for beat remakes of the superior first ones
Carbon copy sequel
@@chrisstafford365 Don't blame Dan Aykroyd or Harold Ramis for GB2 as they originally didn't want to do a sequel and felt that Ghostbusters was a stand alone film! But due to pressure from Sony pictures and with the success of The Real Ghostbusters animated cartoon they then caved in and wrote the sequel. And if you pay close attention to GB2 you can kind of tell that their hearts weren't in it as much as the original! Bill Murray only did the sequel because he was told the movie would turn out a certain way which it didn't! In a rare interview Murray said that people got to see more slime than us. Back during production of GB 1984 Bill Murray at the time only agreed to be in the first movie if the studio funded his other project Razors Edge which turned out to be a failure. When the filming started Murray wasn't too thrilled until mid-way through the production that Murray started to have a good time making the film. 🎥👻🚫🌆
It's not great but it at least has a fairly unique villain with Vigo and the very weird boss of Sigourney weaver's character. It most suffers from a very bored cast who didn't want to be there and a lot of really lame jokes.
GB2 has its moments, plus that soundtrack!
@@mythos8558 Too hot to handle, too cold to hold
They're called Ghostbusters and they're in control! lol
I unironically adore that soundtrack.
To answer Korey’s question: I think the logic behind the mayor always hating the ghostbusters is that their continued presence attracts ghosts and supernatural beings to them and New York.
It’s basically the same type argument that Is used against Batman, that he “ creates “ his villains simply by operating outside of the law himself and being a constant presence.
no, he LITERALLY thinks they make people see ghosts with gas and shit
Peck was just skeptical and pissed him off when Peter didn't amuse his curiosity 'even after he said the magic word, plus he lost his job.😅
@@DanofEarth In this one, it's not he doesn't believe he is just a dick.
Or the Same Argument that Vision brought up in Avengers Civil War.
Conflict from a Larger force always breeds a Reaction! And Once that Conflict is removed, a new form of Conflict is created.
Last time we saw Slimer he wasn’t contained, he was driving a bus.
Well remember I'm the all female remake he got pulled into another dimension
They show him free at the end of the first film too.
Remember this writers. Even though the fan will know of this. The average audience would still not. You better be at the top of your writers game to achieve both without making look like a mess or just too stupid.
In the first movie,”Mr. Stay Puft” WAS GOZER!! Gozer allowed the Ghostbusters to choose the “form” it would take to destroy them and the world.Ray chose “Mr. Stay Puft”.
Now we have Baby Stay Pufts.
I said, busting makes me feel good and HR called me into an office. 😢
No they didn't stop making shit up
U 2 huh😂
Bustn does make me feel good
🤣🤣🤣
Next time, don't say it with your junk in your hand. And stop calling it your "proton pack!"
Slider got freed in Ghostbusters 2. He was driving the cab for Rick Moranis. And the librarian ghost was never captured
She was captured in the video game
And one would assume they went and caught her once they created the nuclear powered proton pack and trap
Your right.
Hell. The video game sequel made a hell of reason for the librarian to return and get Capture. Fun ass level.
Slimer was freed at the end of the first movie, after Peck shut down the containment unit. The movie ended with him flying towards the camera.
They are obviously attempting to turn Stay Puff guy into the next Baby Yoda. This could lead to Stay Puff getting his own movie in which we learn where he comes from. Totally ridiculous if you ask me. In the original Ghostbusters film Stay Puff was a character that became iconic for his rampage through New York. He was a giant monster who has unfortunately been turned into a cute, adorable gag in the recent films. Yes, I know that in Ghostbusters 1984 Stay Puff was a comedic parody of Godzilla/King Kong type giant movie monsters. However, he was also a threat to the heroes.
Not again
That sounds really stupid. But will most likely happen. Same thing with minions from Despicable Me.
TY for thinking like a Hollywood exc.😢
Busting makes me feel guilty after
😂
That's the catholic upbringing 😢
Post bust clarity
@@Maxrepfitgm😂😂😂😂
Ken Paxton, ova here!
Julian is an extreme Gen Z kid lol
How old is he?
@@ninjanibba4259 mid 20s i think.
@@travisgames6608 then he’s not gen z
I've been stuck at 5:23 for several minutes since the line, "For the first time in New York history, a room full of people froze to death," is so absurd I couldn't believe it legitimately said what I thought it did. They say that as if the only way for this to happen is with a ghost's involvement.
....Are they not aware of winter?
The actual line was, "Froze to death, in the middle of July. But I get what you mean, without the full context it sounds ridiculous."
All ghosts are not human. Slimer is a class 5 ghost. He's not human. He's some kind of spirit being from another dimension. Only class 4 ghosts are identified humans.
Should explain that in the movie.
@@ARuiz-eu3hk Yeah, true 😂... I know Ray and Egon talked about it lightly in the first 2 movies, but back then it went over our heads as kids, we just saw as random movie lines, but there is lots of source material to explain all that in the tabletop games, the comics, ect.
@KaijudoMaster11 there's a d20 version of ghostbusters?
I think it was made by Westend Games, but it's not D20, it uses the regular 6 sided dice; like the old Star Wars tabletop RPG... The rules are super easy to learn and remember. It's a great game. It came out in 1986, then they did a 2nd edition in 1989 to coincide with the GB2 movie, but most fans prefer the 1st edition. The 2nd edition had some good stuff added, but it's a bit more crunchy and not as rules lite as the 1st edition. 1st edition is called "Ghostbusters The Roleplaying Game: A Frightfully Cheerful Roleplaying Game" 😂 The 2nd edition is called "Ghostbusters International" there's a lot of info about them on youtube, wiki, just google it and you find all the info you need. If you playing Tabletop RPGs and you a Ghostbusters fan, I highly recommend it.
Wow! So cool. You're the Neil degrasse Tyson of Ghostbusters ✨🏆✨
15:40 - the ghost lady probably recognized Ray from 40 years ago. He did yell at her in a public library and he got away from her
Ghostbusters cartoon had one of the scariest characters ever. The Boogie Man. Say what you want but there were actual disturbing horror elements in that cartoon. God I miss Sat mornings.
The Grundel was pretty scary too. The OG real ghostbusters had Cthulhu for FN Sake
And extreme Ghostbusters had so many dark and creepy entities the demon clowns, the Evil house that eats people, they tackled the racism/anti-Semitism in the episode a Golem.
Yep then Q5 came and interfered with it making it shit and it became the Slimer show
Wish Bill had been this interested in Ghostbusters sequels back in the early 90s when a third one might actually have been good.
it would've happened, but around 1993 he and Harold Ramis had that big falling out while making "Groundhog Day", and they didn't patch things up until Ramis himself was on his deathbed just prior to his untimely passing (hence the reason why Venkman came close to crying when the spirit of Egon Spengler was fighting alongside his old teammates)
He never got a good script. Why be in it if the script is bad. Notice most Bill Murray movies are good and well written.
@@randycunningham7318 Larger Than Life / The Man Who Knew Too Little
Ghostbusters was a result of the right people at the right time. It’s an oddball concept with a wonderfully irreverent pitch: “schlubby exterminators but they catch ghosts”. The whole concept is a joke. ONE joke. This should not have been a franchise.
i dont go to the movies to watch a "franchise"
@@Ionisus I do when it's a good franchise with similar quality in all their movies: Planet of the apes, maze runner series, the first 3 matrix, denis villaneuve dune. I hate superhero movies but I would totally love a black panther vs. Kukulkan franchise just make it humorless,
Sounds like RLM going to have a field day with this one.
They’ll break new ground.
If they even bother to go see this.
I’m sure Jay will laugh at every single thing and make terrible jokes.
@@delusionalhobo6676 They _loved_ The Batman! It's my favorite review from RLM. lol (jk)
Their review of Afterlife was very accurate.
I like Ernie getting his credit.
The mini stay pufts reminded me more of gremlins than minions. They were just sadistic with each other.
Baby Grogus.
Korey: “I don’t even hate nostalgia, I don’t.”
Martin: “You just said you did.”
😂
This is why his opinions hold no weight lol
Corey doesn’t even know what he is talking about. Especially when he gets plenty of attention from fanbases. He just can’t stand the backlash.
Martin was and still the real one in double toasted. Korey, I feel is just saying stuff to please a curtain audience.
I feel so old when homie said he got into Ghostbusters because of the video game 😂😂😢
Like what!? Lol
Right tho😂
I mean it was 15 years ago and if he's in his 20's then it's not that far fetched to think he was first exposed to the game instead of the movie.
Haha you feel old I was 7 when I saw Ghostbusters at the movies 😅
Depending on what game he was talking about because I had it on NES
The fake out with the ad read. That was hilarious
Saddest part about the firebending is that at least in the previous movies, they made it seem like the ghostbusters resorted to science and ingenuity to defeat the final boss. No semblance of that here. They literally couldn't come up with any kind of creativity. They just said, "Fire guy to beat ice guy. Done. Film it."
The first ghostbusters was a little cynical, a little political, but most of all a parody on starting a small business.
It was a parody on the supernatural horror genre, which boomed in the late 70s-early 80s, and a satire on small business and politics, but those are kind of after thoughts to a silly concept made fun.
I Really hate How People Keep Saying Ghost Busters 2 is bad.
ITS NOT!!! STOP IT!
One reason those ghosts from GB1 might still be around (besides the obvious nostalgia reasons) is because the containment grid was switched off in GB1 and they all got released. That’s from a plot perspective (which I’m guessing they don’t bother to explain). They could have just added one line of dialogue which explained it.
God I hope they do like, "Well back then day our grid got tamper to hell by dickless here. So we still got escapees out there to this day. Ghost are VERY hard to track down once gone. Well except for, uh, Slimer, here. This gluttonous class 5 spud never leaves.
Nostalgia like flashbacks can only be brought back once.Just 1 time after that and you keep doing nostalgia in sequels it gets tiresome because we've seen it the first time it was original.But repeating nostalgia can destroy a franchise in a flash.
That's not always true all the time unless you're thinking it in a negative way
@@assassin8636Hollywood makes us think of it negatively
They didn't catch the librarian ghost in the first one. Ray just said "get her" then they ran away. lol
They caught her in the video game
One would assume they recaught her in the first film once they created the equipment to catch the grey lady Eleanor twitty
@@tyronleung5276 Even then, she would have been released with all of the other Ghosts by Walter Peck in the end. Slimer was.
I know the OG cast is legendary but I really want them to make a live action adaption of Extreme Ghostbusters.
It could happen as like a spin off film
That would go hard. It would be a balance between the classic formula and modern at the same time cause of the whole dark aspects.
@@fulcrum6760 true since extreme Ghostbusters actually did something different than Afterlife and Frozen Empire (don't hate me but I like afterlife)
We need a rated R “Ghostbusters”. Even something like an “Extreme Ghostbusters” film for an adult audience with a solid balance and of horror, comedy, and high stakes would flip this franchise on its head and possibly navigate it in the right direction. Sick of this family friendly BS.
@@CosmicSpaceBaby but afterlife and frozen empire are pg-13
The mini pufts were explained to an extent, podcast said that ray smuggled them back from Oklahoma. The ones in afterlife all burned up, though some ran away before gozer was trapped so maybe they didn't burn up?
P.s. the ghostbusters comic back in the 90's had mini stay pufts long before minions were a thing.
But how do they reproduce? If a few escaped the burn up what...do they mate? do they multiply by water like a gizmo?
I am a true Ghostbusters fan for over the years and been rewatching the entire cartoon series even Extreme Ghostbusters as well. However, Sony lost sense of the nostalgia content from the old decade of my childhood to inserting sequences for a cheap trick (pun intended of the same name of the band) in making a money laundering scheme to hurt our childhoods. Now, today’s Hollywood just seems doing the wrong things they did by corruptive greed. I pray to my childhood spirit, studios needing to stop making bad movies even ruining our nostalgia stuff.
Slimer was contained, but you forgot that Walter Peck shut down the ecto-containment unit in the first movie and he was freed.
I'd argue the 2nd Ghostbusters is not a straight up remake, but it does repeat similar stuff. And stuff about it (like the train tunnel sequence and the dancing toaster) is just as memorable.
Extreme Ghostbusters was also amazing for what it was, the "2 cool 4 skool" attitude does not overtake the horror aspects and I love the style (done by the artist who did nickelodeons rugrats).
They will never stop busting
Giggity!
Cuz it makes them feel good...?
@@Gambit2483They will bust even if it doesn't. The pursuit of the bust is a must.
They should probably contact a doctor.
I find it hypocritical to see Patton Oswalt in this movie after he openly criticized David Cross for starring in the Alvin and the Chipmunks trilogy in order to pay his mortgage.
Don’t you know actors sell out constantly?
He also made fun of the angry video games nerd for refusing to watch the 2016 movie.
@@ninjanibba4259yes we do like Harrison Ford with Han Solo hates Star Wars and that character but took the Disney cash to play him again
Every time I see a new GB sequel (same with the Terminators) I feel like I’m watching a bunch of birds pecking a long-dead corpse.
Same with Star Wars
Sequels can be done proper but nobody wants to try anything new and NOBODY wants the same recycled plot lines. No women and for the love of God NO BLACK PEOPLE. So you end up with garbage that's too scared to take risks with something different and not familiar enough to satisfy the hardcore fans. Also fans trashing movies before they come out based on casting, who the director is, cgi, doesn't help studios to take chances either
That ad transition was top tier
What the hell is Korey talking about?? How is Marvel relying on nostalgia? That's not the reason people aren't into Marvel right now
I have a feeling that Frozen Empire is going to be one of those movies that critics didn't like but the fans absolutely love it just like the Super Mario Bros Movie and the Five Nights at Freddy's Movie
Shit for the easily pleased, you mean.
@@finger3181um that's way bad to put
@@finger3181I mean who cares? Not everything is made for everyone,there's no wrong or right about that. Korey and Martin are the same ones who hated the first Aquaman movie but loved the second one. Again not everything is made for everyone
@@finger3181 go watch oppenheimer and shut tf up. some people like joy
I really liked this movie, I’m seeing movies now with no reviews before I see it. I couldn’t believe this movie had 44% on rt
Whose worst at bringing in nostalgia. Ghostbusters or Jurassic Park?
I knew those damn "marshmellow minions" would be the death of this film. And Korey's getting old, his memory is slipping. In this continuity Slimer was always free. He was the very last thing you saw in Ghostbusters and in GB2 he was free and driving the Bus Louis Tulley got on remember?
That diet smoke ad read was hilarious 😂 . Julian and Martin called Korey out on it, lol.
Also, Slimer never stayed contained. Even in the first movie, he escaped when the containment unit was shut down. He joined the Ghostbusters in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon, and that's why he's with them. Not because of nostalgia but because of the continuity. And yes, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon IS canon with the movies, except 2016.
As for the library ghost, they never officially caught her. They didn't have their equipment when they encountered her and never went back. It makes sense to finally go back and settle unfinished business.
You're making the movie sound worse than it is because you're unfamiliar with the franchise.
@Vek_Zythe True or maybe Kory just doesn't remember LOL!?🤔👻🚫🎥
But it doesn't makes sense that the ghost wouldn't have gotten caught. That library is a very busy place in NYC and other people would have called them to catch her.
So they decided to wait 40 years to settle unfinished business?
This is why the 2009 game is needed. Slimer was caught in 1991 (the video game).
@fatmanjstyle5306 Which makes no sense considering he was on their side by that point. He befriended them in The Real Ghostbusters cartoon and was with them in 1989 in Ghostbusters 2. He didn't interact with any of the Ghostbusters, but he was in the firehouse, and Lewis interacted with him on the bus cause he knew who he was.
Maybe the 2009 game is ignoring the cartoon and second movie. Which would suck cause that makes it non-cannon. Or just separate timeline like the Halloween movies.
looks like dude with glasses is wearing a wig attached to his glassses and headband lol
I've been thinking that for months!
He looks like Ivory from how high minus the “Mark of Buddah”
You look like a 38 year old still rocking the ‘hot topic’ look. Tell me that was some nostalgic cosplay bruh 😆
@@KahlessTheUnforgettable you have a face only a mother could love . hence why you can't show yourself lol speaking of .. find a hobby kid before i become your step dad and become your moms hot Topic
24:11 he was so mad he was about to get up and break the whole set. 😂 24:13
The Mayor hates the Ghostbusters because the original movie is anti-government and takes a politically conservative perspective that regulation and the government are generally bad.
Walter Peck was low-key right, their tech was pretty shady.
@@JamesNixon-b7pI hate Peck, but IRL if people were running around with unlicensed nuclear packs- basically WMD- the government would've seized that shit in no time and the Ghostbusters would've been imprisoned for life. The EPA would've been the least of their problems.
Frankly, I'm glad new movies are being made. I was a little kid in the 00s when it was not cool to be a fan, and all I had were two movies and that's it. No toys, cartoons, comics, no costumes, no nothing. All I could do was draw stuff, and to be in a point where its getting so much again is genuinely an amazing feeling. To see critics not get it, sucks.
IDW has been making comics for some time man, they had the license since 2008.
42:02 An IP can do million of NEW things but all it takes is one call back to something familiar and immediately it's nostalgia porn. From what I heard from people who have seen the movie, Slimer is barely in the movie and yet his dominating the entire conversation. Hardly anyone talking about the NEW villain of the movie, which is in the f**king title. Even if you hate nostalgia, it doesn't have to ruin an entire movie, even if it's little pandering.
I don't know whether it's because people have become disillusioned by Star Wars and Marvel and are taking it out on this movie or if there is an existential crisis about modern cinema that's making people overreact when they see anything nostalgic. I have no idea, but something feels off with all this nostalgia bashing.
These are all good points, and Korey is really bad about his inability to distinguish between slight homages to the past and full-on nostalgia; he can’t tell the difference. He’s incapable of giving any franchise films a fair review, so he should avoid even trying to evaluate those films.
Just saw it, loved it
Of course nostalgia doesn't bother because you like it.
@@supoa9489 Yeah, that still isn't an argument as to why it's bad. Simply calling something nostalgia bait is just lazy way not to have an actual argument.
@@thehacker4012 Nostalgia has its place, when relied as crutch or medicore writing its definitely bad.
I'm tired of the disrespect the 89 Ghostbusters 2 gets. Granted, it wasn't as good as the first, but it was still a great sequel to the franchise. 🤷🏾♂️
Better than Afterlife.
Agreed
For the record slimer wasn’t contained . He was released in the first one when the containment unit was shut off, and if you recall in the second one he was driving the bus when Louis was on his way to the art museum
Ghostbusters in my opinion has always made the case that it should had been one movie. Unfortunately thanks to the Ghostbusters Cartoon, it has lead to some fans to believe it should be an outgoing series which is not possible to do if you keep on going back to the 1st one or reminds us how better that one was.
But as long the fans who love the OG cast are please by even the minimal amount of effort, Sony is gonna keep bringing them back to the point we will probably have all the old cast as CGI Ghosts busting Ghosts.
Well I would like to see more stuff on the Ghostbusters franchise in the future even if people are slowly getting tired of it
Lightning n a bottle
Good point, people think they want is a Ghostbusters 1980 sequel but what they really want is a Real Ghostbusters sequel
I'd be fine with Winston and Ray being essentially what they were in this movie, advisors and support for the new team. But this should be their last time in uniform with packs if there's a sequel or more sequels. Ernie Hudson is almost 80!
Ivan Reitman, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, and Bill Murray never intended Ghostbusters to be a franchise film. Columbia Pictures and the success of the cartoon made it a franchise. Columbia forced Ivan Reitman, Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis to make another one to cash in on the success of the cartoon.
10:19
Wrong. Ghostbusters 2 is a great film. Not incredible like the first, but still great. The bar for films was higher back then. But a lot of terrible movies have come out in the last 3 decades. Ghostbusters 2 is overdue for the positive recognition it deserves.
Um that's a bad thing to say about movies, there were a lot of good movies in the last 3 decades so I don't why you're complaining it unless you're one of those think things through type of people
You must have your nostalgia glasses on, because there was a lot of shit in the 80s and early 90s, we only remember the good stuff.
I never said all movies. A lot of terrible movies have come out since Ghostbusters 2. And more movies that have come out recently are terrible, unlike back in the 80's and 90s, which is correct. And I never wear nostalgia glasses. I see things for what they are, objectively.
GB2 is Gone with the Wind compared to the sh1t that followed.
@@Thisisjustnamethere is good and shit in every decade there is just more shit than good nowadays
Actually Slimer broke loose when Walter Peck shut down the containment unit in the first movie. Remember? He was in that hot dog cart and he’s the last thing you see at the end of the first movie. He was secretly living in the Firehouse in the second movie screwing with Rick Moranis but he was never caught again. He may have been living in the Firehouse since 1989. Now you’re totally right about the Marshmallow Man. That has gotten old.
"DIET SMOKE!!!!!!!"
lmao
They need to bring back the boogey man or the sandman from the cartoons in a movie with a darker feel to it.
Sam hain Grendel cathulu
Peoplebusters!
At this point, lets give the other Ghostbusters a shot at the big screen. The one with the 2 dudes and the gorilla, they might have better luck.
Spenser, Tracy and Kong!
Korey stop with the nostalgia hate"" !!!! that's what we love as fans ....party pooper Korey 🤣🤣🤣
Slimer flies at the camera at the end of Ghostbusters 1. He wasn't contained. He was freed with the rest.
16:03 To Martin's question all the ghosts in Ghostbusters are in a numbered class system 1-7 and 3 categories, a vapor, focused and a repeater. A ghost like a dead person would be a 1 or 2. But the Hells Kitchen Sewer ghost from the beginning of this movie would be a 3, 4 or 5. It's inside baseball unfortunately, if you know you know.
Ghostbusters 2016 was so abysmal it poisoned the well. We probably would've of gotten Extreme Ghostbusters live action but Sony is not going to take any chances after that disaster which lost longtime fans. They are going to play it as safe as possible from now on.
I thought afterlife was taking a chance. For me afterlife had potential, it was a success because many of us prefered the rural setting to yet another action movie destroying new york.
Slimer hasn’t been contained since halfway through the first one.
Korey doesn’t know WTH he’s even talking about.
Slimer has been out of that containment unit since part one
Slimer wasn’t contained. He got out in part two and was driving a bus they never caught him again. And as for the library goes, they never caught her. They first encountered her and ran away. They never went back to catch her
RIP Blowjob Ghost. That was tragic fr 😔
@10:30 Whoever color-coated this shot is a genius!!Just leaving out the bleach-blonde hair on Egon!! 10 points to Slytherin on this one!
corey & martin lowkey the funniest youtubers lol
43:17 I said in a Ghostbusters fan group on Facebook a few weeks ago, I'd love to see Ghostbusters do what 'The Fast And The Furious' has done, transition from a movie about street racing to globe trotting adventure movies. A Ghostbusters movie busting ghosts internationally in England, Romania, Haiti, Africa, South America or Asia would be fire.
Not gonna lie, as soon as they mentioned that the Frost Lord guy wasn't gonna get an explanation or any true lore I was out. The main thing I was excited about was having a new villain god to learn about. The nostalgia overdose made it even worse XD. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't probably gonna watch it anyways cause I'm ghostbustered out tbh, but I'm for sure not watching it now.
Lore doesn't really HAVE to matter. In the first movie all the Gozer stuff was just background and an excuse to push the plot along.
In terms of a wide range, yes, you're correct - I should've specified. I personally care a shitton about lore and world building, and I won't lie that it's very hard for me to get into a story without those things. I dunno, maybe I'm just the wrong person to ask XD.@@jordanloux3883
But he did get an explanation
He did get an explanation. It was an entire sequence done with animated stone tablets.
I'd love a Ghostbusters/Beetlejuice crossover especially with Keaton returning as The Ghost With The Most.
That only happened at the universal theme park
Slimer was contained at the beginning of the first movie but as you probably rememeber all Ghosts ware released for the climax. Then he made an apearance in the sequel and was even so kind to drive Louis to the museum in a bus.
And the library ghost was never contained in the first place.
I think they need to stop making Ghostbusters movies and need to make Ghostbusters TV shows especially animated seeing how the best Ghostbusters shows are always animated with Real Ghostbusters and Extreme Ghostbusters.
Sony gonna Sony.
Yall are hilarious. I'm laughing my ass off over here. "ALL THIS DAMN SENSELESS NOSTALGIA " LOL
I like ghostbusters 2 … Sue me
The fire guy makes sense in the plot since his ancestors are the ones who first caught the ice ghost.
I wish Bill Murray returned to voice Garfield in the 2024 animated movie.
Or have him made a cameo in that film
The circle is now complete.
That Ad read was too much lmao
Those callbacks be callin' me 😂
Them catching him in his ad read was hilarious!! He def was about to do one 😂😂😂
Slimee escaped in first movie when dude shut down containment unit.
It's weird how the God ghost brought the fight to them instead of them to the ghost like in previous movies
I've also wondered why those mini marshamellow men were still around plus we never got Phobe & Trevor spending time togther as brother & sister I under stand that when siblings reach their teen years they want to do their own thing but these two never interacted that much together. And Korey brought up a good point about the Ghostbusters encountering ghosts who are menacing who don't want to harm anyone & Phobe meeting Lind is a perfect example. Phobe could tell the team Lind isn't out to hurt anyone they could get info from Lind on what it's like being a ghost, why can't she move on & get her incites on other spectors. And I do love that Winston has become the voice of the team whereas it would've been Egon had Harold Ramis not left us Winston is rich & successful & he uses his wealth to help fund the team & build bigger & better facilities for the ghosts they catch.
The family angle is what I loved about afterlife, no way I'm paying to watch this one, the effects don't seem to justify a trip to the dolby theater. I will rewatch Dune instead. God, how difficult as movie theatrical buff to find acceptable scifi to watch at theaters. Hoping Kingdom of the planet of the apes delivers because I'm not for deadpool and the other stuff coming up. #DuneWillOutperformDeadpool
Can’t believe that first film will be 40 years old this June
Saw ‘Frozen Empire’ earlier today, wasn’t exactly a full theater and I was shocked it has kids in the audience and my Regal chain had the nerve to show a trailer for Tarot (you’d think they would think twice about a horror movie preview potentially scaring little kids)
‘Afterlife’ made up for the infamous reception of the 2016 entry but overall it felt as a good not great revitalizing of the series
It was more slow and self-serious focusing on the granddaughter discovering her roots and the settting in the middle of a small town in the countryside wasn’t exactly inspiring
With this movie director Gil Kenan who executive produced the last one has that love for nostalgic callbacks
There’s lots of cool little nods and Easter eggs for fans
Phoebe does get her own subplot struggling to grow up when everyone is telling her to stay a kid even meeting a seemingly friendly ghost her age
The special effects for the ghosts continue to impress and the main threat does look quite scary
Yet this does fall short of the previous film not really evolving anything forward and doesn’t take advantage of new ideas it presents
It might’ve been better too to cut out so many subplots giving these new characters a chance to breathe
Trevor just seems very useless, Lucky barely has anything to do, and Phoebe’s mom and her boyfriend kinda come off as passive not acting like responsible adults
Plus you have to get through a solid hour of exposition to get to the ghostbusting itself
The movie isn’t quite ‘Ghostbusters 2’ territory and it’s still entertaining seeing the older cast play off the newer ones
It just could’ve been a great follow-up given how ‘Afterlife’ balanced it more
If they make future plans for the franchise they need to give a lot of things room to breathe properly
There’s also a reason why the final product is the way it is according to IMDB trivia:
In an interview with Collider, Gil Kenan revealed he did not cut too much from the film, saying "there's only a couple of deleted scenes" the director affirmed the high quality of what he left on the cutting room floor and revealed fans would get to see the scenes when it arrives on digital, blu-ray, and DVD. "Unfortunately, they're great scenes, so it's really hard to do, but they were really necessary to cut for shape and flow. They were fine fantastic scenes that came sort of too late in the film when you really wanted to watch the preparations for the final siege on the firehouse come together. I'm definitely including them in whatever extra materials out later on because I'm proud of the scenes. I'm proud of the performances in them, I'm proud of the directing in them, and I want audiences who are looking for an expanded experience with this film to be able to have those scenes come to be able to assess how they would have fit into the whole. But there's not too many of them, and when you watch them, you realize that the film is better for them, having stood to the side for the greater good.
I’m a GB fan, the film was a love letter to the franchise... no explanations were needed.
If you recall, all of the ghosts that were captured in the original movie escaped the containment unit when it was shut off. They never showed them recapturing all of those ghost. This is further implied with the appearance of Slimer at the end of the first film. So I believe that being triggered by "nostalgia" has impeded his review of this movie
Where has Slimer and the librarian been since the 2nd movie? Is it stated in this movie why they are all of a sudden causing problems 40 years later?
GB1 and GB2 are the classic goats of the series. The video game is the third movie we never got,and Afterlife is pretty much where it ended. I feel like Frozen Empire was just too much at this point
They’ll never stop with the nostalgia because you’ll always have those people who praise the hell out of it on social media when something like this comes out. Until those voices become the minority and it reflects in their profits, it won’t change
Maybe you're just being too negative on some things on what people should do and that's not how it works, just let them enjoy it and stop complaining just a little bit? Is that too much to ask?
I can assure you, I’m not complaining. Just observing what I notice when it comes to these reboot/legacy sequels from the last decade or so. At the end of the day it is just a movie and people are gonna watch what they’re gonna watch and I could care less. I have no emotional attachment to Ghostbusters. But seeing as this is a channel dedicated to talking about movies and there’s a public comments section, then yea I’m gonna throw in my two cents of analysis. Any anger/negativity you perceive is purely of your own projection.
Many people will keep supporting fast food entertainment instead of new things and that is sad.
Once again I have to go back to the Godzilla franchise, sometimes I think it helps if multiple companies have a share of a franchise, as multiple views can be shown based on the same product. Monsterverse Godzilla is different from your shin, Heisei or anime, Godzilla x Kong looks like it will be doing some nostalgia, based on the showa series (two team wrestling tag match's) where as the anime series did something completely different that my brain could not understand. My point is that companies can see if they just look at what works from what does not.
Slimer wasn't captured at the end of the first lewmovie. He flew at camera
Lol slimmer escaped at the end of the first one
14:48 - the library ghost was never contained in the movies. They ran off when they confronted her in the original movie and that's the last we saw of her. She WAS contained in the video game. Again, something these 'reviewers' got wrong. I assumed Slimer was stealing those candy bars and bringing them back to the firehouse for some type of nest
15:51 I feel like they were implying that there are different classifications of ghosts based on the scenes in the lab with the possessed objects.
Hopefully not as bad as 2016 Ghostbusters.
I hated Afterlife. The only likeable stuff was Paul Rudd and the OG cast's cameo at the end. Can't decide if i want to see this one. It looks like the OGs are actually going to be in this throughout the movie and I love them. But damn those kids were annoying from Afterlife.
Yall should review Surviving the game staring Ice Tea and Gary Busey. Classic!!!!!!
They dont seem to get that Ghostbusters isnt just a movie about fighting ghosts. Its about 4 shlubby guys who spent their lives in academia trying to start their own business