Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- This is an old film now (1999), so the upload quality is not outstanding, but some of the interviews and archive footage are well worth the time spent. Alan Bullock published the first exploration of the two lives in 1991, and this excellent documentary covers many of the issue raised in Bullock's work. Only comments that engage explicitly with the film and the history will be published. Uploaded for educational purposes only. Any advertising that appears is beyond my control.
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Dr Alan Brown
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"like Stalin's father, Alois Hitler terrorized his family".That's were it starts.
Nonsense. Nothing in their childhood has any bearing on their careers. Tough fathers were hardly rare in many parts of the world in those days. Besides, most of the details of their childhood were only "discovered" decades later and must be regarded with suspicion. After all, after Hitler's death, do you think any of his childhood friends could have said anything NICE about him on the record??? lol
Exactly. Yet everyone is still allowed to get children
@@drunkensailor112It’s not about allowing people to have children. It’s about supporting people when they do have children to ensure their physical and psychological safety ❤
It's a good thing my Dad was nice to me, or the world would be screwed.
Same with Mao and Saddams dad
*IMPORTANT INFORMATION*: Due to some editing because of music copyright issues, some parts of this film may have short periods of silent footage. Thank you.
+Dr Alan Brown
I've read Bullock's book. Thank you for bringing this intellectual, yet real-world study to UA-cam, great work...
John Sanford It's not _my_ work of course, John, but I do appreciate the sentiment! Regards - Alan.
+Dr Alan Brown : Thank you Dr, I enjoyed this documentary very much!!!
+Dr Alan Brown Visited link to your website. Nice content w/working links. I encourage other subscribers and commenters to check it out! Potentially not good for the self-esteem, as you've been published several times, and I rarely get through more than a chapter a month, and that's reading someone else's work, lol.
+Dr Alan Brown Thanks Dr. Brown, I always enjoy your uploads and discussion.
These two men waged the most destructive ultimate war that man ever saw....and it was not that long ago
only one of them was, the other was second only to god
Interesting that Hitler and Stalin were both underestimated. Lenin and other Bolshevik leaders underestimated Stalin, and many were eventually destroyed by him. German conservatives (and some leftists too)underestimated Hitler, and many were later destroyed by him.
If it is somehow possible to learn something from this, I would say: don't underestimate Donald Duck? =)
@@elbandido9887 yeah because of the radical leftist media
@@goofyahhh254 When the truth becomes too radical for you, then you've seen a Disney movie too much.
I would say all the leftists underestimated Hitler... before he had them destroyed.
@Waffen Esse nope! America is too fascinated by hollywood.
The biggest difference between Hitler and Stalin is that if Hitler had survived the war he would have been tried as a criminal, while Stalin, despite having been directly responsible for the extermination of some 60 million human beings, was never accused of anything and lived quiet until he died (supposedly) of heart attack in his datcha in 1953.
The real figure is bad enough so why go for ridiculous hyperbole?
Muh 1000 billion.
Stalin had three things on his side which protected him from being tried for crimes against humanity, the first one being that he was in charge of the largest country in the world which, despite having a pretty weak military throughout the 1920s and the early-to-mid 1930s (I won't include the Winter War from 1939 to 1940, since the Red Army was pretty numerous then, they just had bad commanders since Stalin had either killed all the experienced officers or sent them to the gulag), no other country dared to invade 👍 The second one being that he got chummy with both Churchill and Roosevelt, he knew that would enhance his image on the world stage, portraying himself as a fighting comrade alongside those two against the evils of Nazism 👍 The third one is the fact that he was on the winning side during the war, and despite how many people he'd killed during the 1930s, the vast majority of the Soviet people adored him by the end of the war, believing he was solely responsible for saving Russia from the Nazis, which of course he wasn't 👍
I`ve red three biographies of Stalin, don`t remember that 60 million figure.
@@ilijasinobad5908 I don't remember that figure being attributed to him either, to Mao Zedong yes, but not Stalin 👎
Thank you Alan, love your channel and the upload and your work is much appreciated by history buffs everywhere.
+Pat House Thanks, Pat! Sorry for the late response, but I only just picked up your comment. Regards - Alan.
I don't know why they make his art out to be so terrible. While he's no Leonardo, it is pretty good. Maybe if people had encouraged him more, he wouldn't have gone down the path he did.
Eeeeeh
I agree with you.... have long thought that his drawings , especially in the trenches, where he sketched fellow soldiers, were good. He definitely had some talent, which could have been developed had he been accepted for Art School. A pity that.
@@puddyvalentine He should have tried the mail order art school that Charles Schultz worked for.
Nope! He can't draw human figures accurately and his his paintings is always buildings which is actually beautiful but still not a good painter like me! I can't draw human only buildings!
They'll just try to make Hitler look bad as much as possible.
'Both (Hitler and Stalin) spoke with strong regional accents all their lives'
- If a future dictator of Britain had a really strong Yorkshire accent . . .
Mr motivator The Queen doesn't have any power, the only position of authority she has is being the sole owner of all the swans in England.
***** True, but she has never used those powers. Of course, there's always the argument that she could, if she wanted to, but that she hasn't suggests that she does feel herself to have a sufficient authority to do so. To all intents and purposes, the Queen is the inactive figurehead of a parliamentary democracy that operates of its own accord, independently of her will and outside of her jurisdiction.
***** The Queen doesn't dissolve the parliament, the parliament dissolves itself. And she doesn't appoint the Prime Minister, the people vote them in by democratic process. The Queen may officially approve and confirm the new Prime Minister, but she doesn't decide who is appointed to that position: it's not like she says 'right, so this guy's going to be Prime Minister, because I say so, and if you don't like it you can sod off.'
***** Not simple, just someone with a different opinion to you. But, if you're going to be rude, then I'm going to sod off somewhere else and leave you to get on with it. TTFE.
I feel sorry for all the inconveniences you had to experience due to copyright infringements on some tiny segments of background music. Although user terms are to be respected, I find it somehow a little bit pathetic in cases like yours, because it leads to nowhere, practically; maybe just to discourage a noble cause.
Thanks again, Alan, for your hard work and your perseverance, offering us such a good educational material.
For those who are intrigued by Stalin, I really recommend you read the book "Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar" by Simon Montefiore. It is impeccably researched and beautifully written.
Thank you for the upload.
+Viv Weston
He's just a great writer, eh...?
+John Sanford Absolutely fantastic.
Took him many attempts to get access to the archives and I agree. I’ve read many books on Stalin but his are the best he’s wrote others on Stalin
Is it biased?
I will check that out thanks
Stalin's slow agonising death was poetic justice.
And what will you call your death?
@@grootygroot6351 You got butthurt over their comment.
imagine sitting there in your own filth realizing nobody cares and were too scared to even check on you. DO you think he realized then that he was a monster, or did he go unconscious cursing the inept servants and intellectual doctors? Probably the latter huh?
@@grootygroot6351 I'll call it "the end of my life", most likely. However, maybe I'll become a religious nut someday (not likely, not by a long shot), in which case I'll call it "going home to see Jesus", or some such utter nonsense. I hope that I've successfully answered your question. Even though it was actually directed in apparent anger at someone else's comment (a comment I fully agree with), I took the liberty to answer it. I hope that was OK.
Jospip Broz Tito and Freud also lived in Vienna in 1913
Hitler was traumatized by WW1 so severely his behavior afterwards seems attributable to it. He was a very brave soldier. Stalin was not a brave man. Stalin was a born criminal and remarkably hard on his own people. Hitler was sentimental about Germany, and the opera going and artistic dimensions of his life are unusual by comparison to any other major figures in that war. Stalin was a gray monstrosity who could have fitted in with the Cosa Nostra easily. Hitler seemed, simply put, demented. His anti-Judaism seems inexplicable given his personal life early on when Jews behaved charitably towards him. But, in the end, like many in the rough political life of Europe, he sacrificed Jews to the cannibals in the society.
It's still worth sacrificing them for the good of planet look what they been doing in palestine last 60 yrs
that's what u think. and no he was not hard whatsoever on us.
it's remarkable how much brainwashing America has underwent
he was no more harsh on the jews than McCarty whit his paranoia who tiranised the jews in usa
and while the Americans are fighting mythical non-existing comunism stalin is bringing all ethnic russians back to russia
who was hard in its people is western europe...
for 1000 years millions and millions of Europeans died in brutal Barbary known as europe
It's stupid to say a man who liberated Europe was not a brave man
Stalin was a brave man too but unlike hitler who was unhealthily obsessed with Germany, stalin was more interested about his power .
" 1 death is a tragedy; 1 million is a statistic"
Pretty sure this is actually Gorky's quote, not Stalin's.
I always thought that it was Uncle Barney's quote . . .
There is one huge difference between Hitler and Stalin: The vast majority of Germans today would no more praise Hitler than Americans would praise Charles Manson or Richard Speck (or types like them). Too many Russians today would defend Stalin.
This film does point to the public facility at Stalin's birthplace versus the lack of same at Hitler's.
You make a good point.
Stalin invaded Poland three weeks after Hitler in September 1939. Stalin then annexed three Baltic states, invaded Finland, and took two Romanian states. These were secret clauses in the Russo/German non-aggression pact of the same year. Germany was split into two following the war: east and west. The Communist "Iron Curtain" also absorbed the independent states: Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia, et all. Stalin alone killed over 40 million of his people through starvation, purges (mass murder) and the gulags (concentration camps). That is why people in the Ukraine initially saw the Germans as liberators and not conquerors. Germany was never prepared to fight a protracted war, and Hitler was convinced by his foreign affairs minister, Von Ribbentrop, that the west would do nothing over Poland. Had there not been a second world war, Germany conquering France, the battle of Britain, bailing out Mussolini in Greece and Africa, and if Germany had put all of her resources into Russia, I doubt that Stalin would have saved his people. Russia was defeated in the first world war. Yes, they invaded Germany and lost. Germany had to give back the all that it gained by the treaty of Versailles. National Socialism and Communism was the biggest ideological dynamic of the 20th century. Each man, Hitler and Stalin, knew they would eventually be at war, however, Stalin was not expecting it so soon and utterly unprepared. Stalin thought the western democratic allies would align to destroy Communist Russia. Hitler, on the other hand, was not fully aware of the depth of Russia's armaments, and thought the blitzkrieg would bring Russia to it's knees in 3-4 months. While it was amazingly successful in the first months, faulty long-term logistics and the weather allowed Russia to re-group. Along with massive aid from the U.S. and Britain, it allowed them to eventually push the Germans back. But at a huge expense. Russia lost at least 25 million in the second world war.
Yet, Stalin exterminated 20 million of his own people.
because winners write history
Marxist "educators" only like to talk about Hitler while trying to ignore Stalin.
This is so strange, i never noticed how Hitler and Stalin were both at the top center of their respective class photos, Stalin being short was still central, Hitler also, there being three children each on either side of both of them. that’s bizarre.
In all fairness, Hitler didn't paint and sell postcards, he did watercolors largely copied or "inspired" by the scenes in postcards, not a bad idea as postcards generally have very good shots of local buildings etc. He was not a great artist, but he was a good worker at it, supporting himself, and over time would have continued to improve. He could easily have made a career out of it and retired well-to-do merely on art if he'd taken that path. He found human figures hard to do but everyone does; this is why there are so many human figure classes in an art degree. He continued to paint and to design furniture even after he became Fuehrer, and right up to late in the war. So you have to give him that, even though it would have been just dandy if a bomb had taken his ass out in WWI.
That was just an accusation. There’s no evidence that he copied anything that was written by people to make him look worse.
This is the most out of touch comment ever
What amazes me is that two men so evil could both be born and rise to power at almost the same time. That is something someone needs to document, what caused that to happen.
Hitler was born in dec 1889. Starlin was born in april 1878. 🤔
Extreme poverty and suffering of the masses?
coincidence?
ww1 happened duuhhhh, and i think that this documentary kind of documents it 2
The Great Depression
Both men had very brutal fathers. Probably their personalities were warped by their fathers' cruelties. Both were reared under authoritarian regimes. Authoritarian fathers, authoritarian regimes.. And they both end up creating regimes even more repressive than those under which they grew up.
@Donnell0303no it wasn't
That is so creepy in the very beginning to see their class photographs. Both of them knew even at that early age how to be the center of attention - Your eyes are immediately drawn to the center back row which they both are in, you cannot avoid that look of arrogance and demand for control.
sycamoreleaves74 could be, but in class photos it's usually height order or the teacher's direction that puts kids in a certain spot..?
Indeed. The most "future dictator" looking kid in a class photo I know of, is Louis Armstrong in the famous photo of him in the Colored Waif's Home in New Orleans. He's top and center, and that's probably because he played cornet, not because of anything else, the kids would have been arranged by instrument.
How was Stalin the center of attention? One of the reasons why he could seize power was by pretending to be dull and harmless, so his colleagues nicknamed him "comrade filing cabinet". When in power he rarely spoke in public, unlike Hitler who enjoyed getting hysterical and captivating millions of people.
Kinda like obama
I had the opportunity to travel to the USSR in 1986 for 5 days. What was fascinating was the fact that the Communist party elites from North Korea were staying at our hotel. In those days that was a valued prize an all expense paid trip to Moscow and Leningrad.
Thank you dr. Brown. Great cristmas gift for the history buff. Happy holidays
+Ingibjörg Kolbeins And the same to you, Ingibjorg. All the best for 2016. Regards - Alan.
Moral of the story do not abuse ur offspring cause they'll grow up into (Stalin+Hitler)
Staer
jack ø diamonds A or Staler.
2 minor points--i have seen in other documentaries that stalin kept his wife's letter in his desk and re-read it frequently. and his driver said that he used to take stalin to her graveyard and stalin would smoke a few cigarettes by her grave.
Stalin gave Hitler a "blank cheque" to invade Poland.
Hitler gave Stalin a "blank cheque" to invade Poland.
man I want Poland now too
i have a strong feeling these two are in the same place and its rather warm there
thanks for putting this up
+kyle reese Thanks, Kyle. Have a good winter break!
newdawnnation I know, but commentary on this channel comes from all over the world so it's easier to use such an anodyne term. *Happy Christmas*, NDN!
@@oasis6767 in the future, Netanyahu and Khamenei: parallel Lives
Thanks for this documentary.
The reason Hitler was rejected from art school was he had such antisocial personality disorder that he couldn't draw or paint people's faces.He was actually pretty good at painting a building or bowl of fruit.
That sounds like a rumor to me. Hitler drew and painted plenty of faces, it was the hands, human hands are not easy to perfect, and that's what the art academy judged his work on was his poor quality painting hands.
Another thing I notice. Both men came from poor, at best, very humble backgrounds. But they were not totally illiterate as were most of the poor (at least in the Russian empire). They received some schooling, but probably not a very good education. Their education seemed to be mediocre. It did not prepare them, nor would they by their own efforts become, creative thinkers, writers, scholars, or intellectuals. Hitler was a failed artist. Stalin, even as a Marxist, was a third rate "thinker" at best. But being unable to be creative themselves, they imposed their authoritarian rule upon their subjects in Germany and Russia. Total censorship, suppression of free thinking, free speech, all cultural creativity. And the perversion of science to serve their political aims. And, of course, there would be no academic freedom. If you can't be creative, then smother the creativity of others. If Hitler and Stalin didn't have a decent education, then they would cripple education for everyone.
I always get those two mixed up. - Stalin was the one with the mustache, right?
Wow
Hitler wishes his stache looked like this
The meaning of the word "" VOZHD" is a " LEADER" , not a "BOSS" !!
Frightening, that can occur any time in the futur, totalitarianism is not dead, it just waits its time...After WW2 we had Mao and Pol Pot at great scale, Imin Dada, Bokassa, Duvallier, Videla, Pinochet, Ghadafi and so many others at smaller scale.
Dr Brown thanks for the upload.
ad Paul Biya .and Denis sassou of Congo
Paul Ebai The list is so long, and suffering so immense.
The good thing about Stalin he suffered his people to industrialized his nation. Africans henchmen suffer their people soo they alone cn get rich.
Ilan Gaddafi? Really?
Similarities between them are scary
What similarities?
They were both on the left, which is why they are similar
Thanks for uploading Alan, I've been interested by Hitler and Stalin for a long time. Mainly the similarities between the Nazi system and the Stalinist system. I'm doing a dissertation at University, where I am comparing both systems. I was just wondering, do you consider Stalin guilty of genocide as many do with Hitler? Professor Norman M. Naimark in his 2010 book "Stalin's Genocides" argues the annihilation of the Kulaks and the extermination of other social groups and classes and political groups should constitute a genocide. Do you agree?
If Stalin was guilty of genocide, why wasn't a single ethnic group physically or even culturally annihilated? Can you tell me one ethnic group that existed before Stalin and was destroyed by him?
The Kulaks were annihilated as a class, there was no plan to physically annihilate these people. If you want to physically destroy a group, you want to destroy the children first, because they are the future of the group. Yet the children of the kulaks were released from the special settlements when they were deemed Sovietized enough to be part of Soviet society. Can you imagine Himmler telling Hitler that many Jewish children had been raised in the Nazi spirit and could be released from the camps because they were now loyal enough?
From _Nothing But Certainty_ by Amir Weiner:
"The concern over ascribing guilt to children forced the authorities to differentiate their punitive measures even at the height of cleansing campaigns, when entire families were often lumped together because of the alleged crimes of one of their members. The 1930s were marked by consecutive resolutions on the rehabilitations and release of the children of kulaks from the special settlements. *Right from the start children of the dreaded enemies were allowed to leave the settlements at the age of sixteen, authorized to enroll in outside educational institutions, and finally granted internal passports and the right to move to their place of choice, a right that elevated them not only above their previous status, but also above the rest of Soviet peasantry*. Most relevant here is that the anxiety over the children's fate persisted even after the totalization of enemy categories in the wake of the war. Only nine months before the incarceration of Ukrainian nationalists and their families was converted into permanent exile, Nikita Khrushchev, who personally presided over the extermination of the movement, appealed to Stalin and requested the release of several hundred youth convicted and sentenced for nationalist activities. During their stay at the children's colonies, argued Khrushchev, the youngsters, who had arrived there at twelve to fourteen years of age on average, had acquired education and a profession that made further imprisonment unnecessary. Moreover, *Khrushchev recommended that some of the parents, who were exiled into the interior following the conviction of their children, should be allowed to return to their former place of residence*. This is not exactly the reasoning and policies one expects to find in a racist regime."
www.jstor.org/stable/2696980
"In March 1934, in response to a request from a region, the Politburo resolved that there was no objection to accepting former kulaks into the kolkhozes if they had returned from exile with a positive recommendation. Then on May 27 the Central Committee ruled that, provided that they worked conscientiously and were "loyal to the measures of Soviet power", former kulaks could be restored to civil rights after five years, or after three years if they were working in the gold and platinum industry. Moreover, shock workers, particularly young workers, could acquire civil rights ahead of time."
books.google.nl/books?id=iM9CBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA26
@@christinas.4342 it doesnt matter,theyre human beings,Stalin and Hitler are equally guilty and one isnt better than the other,hopefully theyre in the hottest part of hell
If somebody had a time machine and a pistol, they could go back to Christmas, 1913 in Vienna, to that block, and save the world a lot of grief in just one night.
Then something else probably would of happen.
Stopping the 2nd world war jus for it to happen in the 50s or 60s maybe 70s..
Yea i don’t know.
What an amazing documentary!! Thanks for sharing!! I started following the channel. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is really great, thanks for sharing it with us.
Stalin changed his name to "Stalin (man of steel)". Here I thought branding was a capitalist strategy... :D
Fanatics and despots.
Silly capitalist
Very intresting and informative documentry Thanks for the upload Dr Alan Brown. This was definatley one of the beas documentrys ive seen!
Bullock's tome is massive, well-researched and entertaining. Well-done!
Just to say the show trial footage is actually of the industrial party trial and not the great Moscow show trials of 1936-38
Strange, every other documentary has Stalin being very disrespectful to and about his mother.
History of World War II is way more clear when told by the real Liberators, and not some outsider, who was not even Occupied by the Axis Powers, like the Americans and British.
What's disturbing about Americans is that they actually believe Hitler and Stalin was worse than the British Empire. Winston Churchill and the British English Empire murdered more than Hitler and Stalin could ever dream of killing. And American troops have been in South Korea, Taiwan, Okinawa, Germany and Japan since 1945. And during World War II, the United States had racial segregation in the Armed Forces. Yet, Americans call Hitler racist and the bad guy. And today the United States are the biggest war Criminals who murdered far more than Hitler and Stalin could ever dream of killing. And I'm not even Nazi. I'm just being honest.
They Saved the Jew's and the Jew's have murdered millions of Palestinians. And the Holocaust of the Palestinians is ignored. And Hollywood: Celebrity: Do Jewish Holocaust movie's, the awards come. And what's also really disturbing about these English people is that they never mention how the British royal family is responsible for World War I. Just before the American Empire the British invaded and looted trillions and billions and millions of dollars and murdered millions more than any other Empire. It is important to remember, indeed. Do not feel obligated to the British enterprise. The British plundered and murdered nearly a quarter of the world for their own profit, let's not pass it off as the age of enlightenment. And it's high time we all start to boycott the United States until their forced to pay back all the trillions and billions and millions of dollars they looted from Iraq and Afghanistan and the rest of the Middle East and Greece and Cyprus. Before the US invaded, it deposed Iraq's president, and put Saddam Hussein in power. Saddam Hussein said that Iraq was opposed not by a unified coalition but by the US and the UK, Australia. Who had conspired with each other to bully and threaten the rest of the world into supporting their invasion into the Middle East. The American Empire is so corrupt that you can buy Presidents like a sack of Potatoes. Yet, no English documentary has the decency to mention any of this in their documentaries.
British history in about 8 minutes. No meat. All bones. Cannot fake it. This lesson in history is 100 times better than any English school education. This is a true tribute to the Royal family of Britain. Bloodshed is their Legacy. King Charles’ Bloodstained Crown | The Untold Story of UK Royals. ua-cam.com/video/GUI8gMelNOM/v-deo.html
Thanks for the upload :)
It’s a shame they never met, they were practically neighbors. They would have had so much to talk about, they had a great deal in common. They admired each other’s ruthlessness.
What’s with the sound going in and out? It’s aggravating when you’re trying to watch the video! 😠😟
You might also be interested in a new paper I recently published, available direct from Amazon. Simply search *'How socialist was National Socialism'* in the Amazon search box.
+Dr Alan Brown
Your view of history seems terribly simplistic. You barely say anything about the horrible situation that the First World War put Russia in and why so many Russians did after all support the Bolsheviks. The documentary says Lenin sent Stalin to do his dirty work. But in the revolution Lenin's enemies committed no end of atrocities. You overlook all that.
Emile Habib You seem to be under the impression that I had anything to do with this film, whereas I simply uploaded it.
+Dr Alan Brown Thanks for all of your uploads, Dr. Brown. Especially this one. Some of the parallels between the 2 men are absolutely uncanny. Keep the great uploads coming.. :)
+Dr Alan Brown why are you so interested in hitler?
There are 53 videos on my channel, of which 7 contain some Hitler-related content (and some of that is tangential). This means that less than 14% of the entire collection has anything to do with the Third Reich, therefore I think "so interested" is hardly an issue.
This might surprise some people. Even as early as in 1941 Finnish marshal Mannerheim mentioned to his top commander general Paavo Talvela something interesting. Mannerheim underlined that HItler's Germany, not Soviet Union "is our [Finland's] greatest danger". It's also well known fact that Mannerheim even before Winter War was planning something similar what later was known as The Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance, also known as the YYA (1948). Finland is actually Russian's buffer.
One thing in common: short men. Never ridicule short men, they do crazy things.
Do you mean in height or, uh, in length? I suspect both, but that's pure speculation, of course. ;-)
They were average height for the time. 1940s people were short
Hitler purged his longtime allies, the Stroesser brothers, when he purged Roehm and the SA, he felt the three were potential rivals who couldn't be intimidated or bought off.
About the Strasser brothers: Otto Strasser left the Nazi party because he disagreed with Hitler. He moved to Britain (I think), and then to Canada.He survives the war and dies in the 1970s.
Gregor Strasser stands with and follows Hitler. He ends up dead in "The Night of the Long Knives" purge in 1934.
Hitler WAS NOT a "right winger" or "conservative". The National Socialist Workers Party shares many policies of of the modern democrat party and the doctrine was based on a centralized collectivist state, not a free market open economy.
KarrensMan69 LOL! Such an educated enlightenment from an American economics and political science major.
So the Nazis were feminist, pro-gay, pro-transgender, against death penalty, and supported legalizing drugs?
Very true. Hitler hated capitalism
14:00, it's been proven that was not Hitler in the photo
Really? Source?
Let us not forget that for two years the Soviet Union was an ally of Nazi Germany. With the support of the Nazis the Soviets attacked Finland and occupied the Baltic States. They invaded and occupied Poland together and the Soviets supported the Nazi occupation of France. Stalin was a firm believer in the alliance until Hitler stabbed him the back. But basically they were both criminal and murderous regimes with little to distinguish them. This is not to detract from the courage and sacrifice of the Soviet people , thanks to which the Nazis were defeated - but just like today the Russians were led by criminals who cared nothing for their people
Stalin was worse
If you were German
Hitler's voice, except when in full flow, was dull & boring. Stalin was generally without emotion, I expect no one wanted to hear him become emotional.
The sound cuts out at certain parts, which is unfortunate because its a well made film.
Marco Dellorusso it's because of copyright issues with the music. The publisher apologized for it (somewhere) in the comments.
the publisher explains that right here at the top just scroll up.
56:08-56:17 The narrator forgot to mention the Munich Crisis over Czechoslovakia and the West's refusal to ask Russia's to take part in that conference, the West's refusal to consult with Stalin. But Chamberlain and Daladier hated communism more than fascism and Nazism.
Maybe they realized it would have been hypocrisy to sell half of eastern Europe to a madman in return for war, in order to avoid selling 3-million Germans to another madman in return for the prospect of peace.....
+Ralph Bernhard That's not what the point my friend. I was stating a fact. The Munich Crisis of 1938 was completely bypassed by the narrator or the producers of the doc. Hitler's absorption of the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia should've at least been mentioned in between Hitler's annexation of Austria and his plans to invade to invade Poland.
brian sedlock I can only assume the makers of the doc took it for granted that that part of history is already well known, since it has been the focus of numerous independent docs and books.
I'm therefore addressing your initial comment, in which you point out that Chamberlain and Daladier ignored Stalin.
Bear in mind that prior to Sept 1939, Nazi Germany and the SU had no common border, so that any deal with Stalin, to counter Hitler, would have needed selling somebody out -- either Poland, Czechoslovakia, or Romania/Hungary.
+Ralph Bernhard Perhaps you're right, the SU had no common border with Czechoslovakia either in 1938. I don't think that Czechoslovak government would've welcomed aid from the Russians either. Some Czechs even believed in the philosophy "Better Hitler than Stalin." The Russian goverrnment did give thought of flying war planes over Czechoslovakia in case war broke out, but no such undertaking materialized because the Romanian government thought it violated their airspace if Soviet planes flew over their territory. Apparently more European countries hated Soviet Russia than they hated Nazi Germany. In the spring and summer of 1939, before Ribbentrop's surprise visit to Moscow, the British and French were visiting the SU to conclude an alliance with the Russians for the defense of Poland. But the talks didn't have much progress and the Poles did not want the Russians on their soil. Apparently like the Czechs a year before, the Poles hated the Russians more than they hated Germans. "Better Hitler than Stalin" was their philosophy too. Eventhough hatred between Poles and Germans ran deep in history. Stalin was bent on reclaiming Russian territory lost to Poland after World War I and the Russo-Polish War (1919-20.)
brian sedlock Agreed.
These are good points you made, that make it very plausible why an alliance was never seriously considered.
It might also interest you that talks were also underway between Goering and Polish PM Mosciki (not sure about the spelling there), and Goering undertook several informal hunting trips to Poland.
I have no doubts that they were not only discussing boars and deer.
In case GB and France had made an alliance with Stalin before 1939, it might even have led to Nazi Germany and Poland burying the hatchet, and forming an alliance against the SU.
Poland of course, being fiercely anti-communist.
Wow you sure make me feel old by calling a film made in 1999 old now. Seems pretty recent to me. But it is good to observe how perspectives change with the passage of time. I haven't watched it all yet but so far I think it is better than the new stuff.
I was born that year
One of the best documentries I've seen, not only on Stalin but Hitler as well 👏
This is great! My goal has been to read up a couple biographies on the key figures of the 20th century (mainly with a political aspect) With Churchill, F.D.Roosevelt done i am looking forward to diving into the work of R. Service to learn more about Stalin. This is a fantastic film that greatly encourages my interest in Hitler as well. Thank you for the share, hoping to see more similar stuff in the future!
+enriquebliudzius You might also try _Stalin_ by Dmitri Volkogonov, and also _Stalin_ by Robert Conquest. Have a good winter break, and a happy 2016. Regards - Alan.
Very ambitious control-freaks ALWAYS end up wreaking havoc upon mankind. - this is almost an axiom of History.
Dr Brown, you've obviously read the book..."Hitler and Stalin---Parallel Lives." You therefore must know all of the other strange correlations between these two extraordinary men. I used to have that book myself a few years ago until, like other books of mine, it simply disappeared whilst I was moving house. You got a couple of the dates wrong but, apart from that and the exasperating periods of silence, it was most entertaining and of profound utility to students and teachers. Thank You, Regards, Richard Hiller.
Thank you, Richard! But please remember that I had nothing to do with the production of the film; I simply uploaded it. Also, as I state in the information panel, some of the silences are generated by music copyright issues. Thanks for watching. Regards - Alan.
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I can pretty well assure everyone that Hitler would have eventually attacked or invaded every nation on earth...despite "Non Aggression Pacts," and "Alliances"--- Instruments which merely and quite transiently facilitated pragmatic and practical political and military expediency at that time. As Goering stated with contempt at Nuremberg in 1946---" Treaties! Ugh, so much toilet paper!" Had Germany and Japan defeated every other nation in the entire world, Hitler would have celebrated their mutual triumph with the most gaudy and ostentatious parades conceivable. He would have lauded the Japanese with tremendous enthusiasm, proclaimed them the "Aryans of the East" and offered to assist them in any and all ways possible, be it in civil or military matters. He would proclaim eternal and universal peace. Then, as soon as Japan turned its' back, he would have hit them with the most powerful military juggernaut the world had ever seen, and ordered the complete annihilation of every Japanese Metropolis and person on earth. After that, he would have ordered the General Staff to prepare detailed maps of the surface of the moon so he could invade that as well;-)
Did you just call them "Extraordinary Men"?!
It started-off a bit slow, but as I watched, it built in intensity....a bit like one of Hitler's speeches. :) Thank you for posting this Dr. Brown. Let's hope that psychotic, megalomaniacal, mass murdering "leaders" are nothing more than a dark and distant memory in our collective history.
+watcherjohnny I agree with your wish, Johnny, but I fear that - like "the poor" - they will always be with us. Regards, and best wishes to you and yours for the holiday season and the new year - Alan.
+Dr Alan Brown I'm very afraid that the mass murderers of the past were nothing compared to what is coming. History shows that human barbarity does not entropy it grows. Technology has advanced but common sense hasn't.
+watcherjohnny "dark and distant memory?" Pol Pot, Mao, etc. well into the modern era.
+watcherjohnny "A long and distant memory"? Pol Pot, Mao, etc stretching well into the modern era.
Weren't other notable people also in Vienna at that time? Some articles say Freud, Trotsky and Tito were also in Vienna in 1913. So maybe not a coincidence that most became revolutionaries -- or was it just the environment they were in that made them turn out so similar.
Both men supported gun control, militarism, Racism, and statism
Hitler and Stalin.
Both children of Versailles.
In August 1939, they set about to rectify what they considered to be "wrong borders".
The Non-Aggression Pact a marriage of convenience.
Must have been a weird honeymoon...
Hitler did leave a successor, joseph goebelles
I am reading Montefiore's book on "Stalin" now. Apparently, the guy was charming, well read, highly intelligent, shrewd. Not of that could be said of Hitler. Even given the roughness of translation from German to English, he lacks coherence, and more like a loud mouth than anything else. Stalin was a brutal as Hitler and as much a remorseless killer as Hitler. Stalin admired Hitler especially Hitler's killing of the Nazi hegemony--'night of long knives'--in 1934. Something Stalin would attempt with his purges of 1938.
+Alex DeForest Hitler was a psychopath, Alex, and people with that affliction can charm the birds from the trees and then strangle them without a change in their pulse rate. He found it easier to be in the company of women and children because he was a self-educated man who existed in a world of binary opposite dimensions. He despised 'real' learning, and people with higher education or elevated social class found him difficult company. Women and children posed less of an intellectual threat to him.
+Dr Alan Brown Even his most skeptical generals, including Rommel, praised and revered the man. With the exception of Neurath
Rommel is portrayed as a non-Nazi general but personal accounts of his have shown that even he wasn't unaffected by his Führer.
+Dr Alan Brown And what to say of Christa Schroeder, the Secretary who lived through it all and exasperated adjutants by criticizing the war. In her book 'He Was My Chief' we find that she had difficulty aligning Nazi crimes with the personality of her Führer. Long after the war, she kept admiring and, as one of the few, somewhat protecting his image.
VERY Interesting Documentary
1:15:57 What about Stalin's pogroms against the Jewish Russians? What about the forced relocation and mass killings of the Chechnyans? It's shameful to 'rank' such suffering, but surely Stalin also pursued policies targeting specific ethnic and cultural groups.
Moral of the story: Don't be an abusuive father and an over loving mother.
اگر امکان داره میخواستم ازتون خواهش کنم چنانچه نسخه هایه دوبله فارسی از این دست مستند ها رو داشتین به اشتراک بزارین ممنون میشم. مچکر. بدرود.
A man goes to Stalin as a friend but he doesn’t know where he’ll be sent next, home or to jail.
Great documentary!
54:29 Kuibyshev is also the name of a city east of Moscow. That's where most of the Soviet Government officials fled to in fear that Moscow would fall to the Germans, it never happened.
"Hitler gained time to attack Poland." Stalin attacked Poland, too!
The Polish commander in chief had ordered the Polish army not to fight the Soviets.
Kristina S. And the Soviets just captured them,slaughtering or deporting all of them,he is probably turning in his grave thinking of that.
I wonder what year this came on tv…
It literally says in the description
"If Moscow falls head will roll" Stalin the butcher never accept failure.
lol down deep he knew itd be his own
Great video!
In all of my study of World War II, I have never heard that Stalin and Hitler stayed on the same square in Vienna. I wonder if this is really true? To my knowledge they never met.
Ava was beautiful and funny...
Whats the name of the song at 53:38?
,,Together with the Germans we would have been invincible." - Joseph Stalin to his daughter Svetlana Alliluyeva after WW2.
Never hire someone who has been a choir boy.
Thank you Doc. One was mad and the other bad but both were sad and dangerous to humanity.
+Joseph Raymond Indeed, Joseph. Thing is, these types are always with us in one way or another.
A gem of a doc..didnt malenkov succeed stalin,even if it was for only a week?
they were in the same town at one time???
POV: you have a history final tomorrow and haven’t studied
Quite possibly the first video I've ever seen of Stalin making a sarcastic joke and laughing, it feels so odd to see it 🤣
Why could the Black Death not come back during the 1920s
What if Hitler had been successful as an artist? What if he had been a talented artist? A historic nightmare might have been avoided. What if Stalin had been successful as a poet? Or some other culturally creative endeavor? Millions of lives might have been spared. Or would some other human monsters have played the roles as they did?
SagesseNoir I'd guess someone else would have stepped in and done something similar. Especially if everything happening in Russia and also WWI happened the same. That being said, I always thought he was quite a good artist. Unfortunate that he was rejected twice.
Can’t manipulate time.. someone else would’ve conquered the 50s or 60s if WW2 didn’t happened.
@@A_Valeska That may have happened, or it may not. I'm skeptical about notions of predestination. But I think it's highly unlikely that Hitler would have become the monster that he became if he had become a successful artist as he initially wanted. Someone as bad or even worse may have arisen, and may or may not have gotten total power. Or maybe such a disastrous development might have been avoided, as it was avoided in America, England and even France before the 1940 fall of France
To oretswynton: your recent comment to me was not posted on TOP COMMENTS.
How can a child be 'lazy', you know about this thing called 'childhood', right? Do you still put kids to work in the UK??
Yes, I say that: 'a few decades ago Germans had the most delightfully absurd accents in English, but today they speak it better than Americans!'
I'm Canadian, but I'm rather disappointed to see the lack of progress in our school systems. It seems they've been stagnating for the past few decades. At one point the North American scholastic system was admired worldwide, but now it's a laughing stock... that the French schools are so far behind too is news to me though.
But that's very interesting to hear about the German schools. I'm not too surprised though that they can achieve so effective an education with less time at school though. There are many corners that can be cut in education. So much of school focuses on repetition, for example.
At 49:40 it says that Kirov won a vote for General Secretary over Stalin and the results were changed, this didn’t happen, what did happen is too complicated to explain in 20 seconds in a documentary admittedly but still, ppl will watch this and believe it, probably repeat it and it’s just wrong, I really wish docos wouldn’t do this
On the last comment, the difference between Stalin and Hitler's horrors. That Stalin never had a state policy of genocide against one group of people whereas Hitler did. I would say that is not true if you look into what happened to the German people under Stalin, specifically the Germans that lived in what is now western Poland, where the West's watchful eye had no vision at the time.
Stalin targeted many groups for genocide. The famine in Ukraine was targetted especially towards the ukrainians for their role as a white stronghold in the civil war. Kruchev stated in his memoirs Stalin would have deported them to siberia all, had they not been so numerous.
The 25th of December is not the natural birthday of Christ - it is the Official Birthday of Christ - in other words next to nobody, least of all Christians, believe that the 25 December was the actual birthday of Christ. We don't know exactly when he was born but we decided to celebrate it on that day.
There was a massive difference between the early Soviet admirers of Communism (who followed the policy of "communism in one country") and the later *Stalinism* which was no longer defensive, but offensive (expansionist).
Stalin got rid of those favoring "communism one country" in various purges, and by signing death certificates before breakfast...solidifying his authoritarian rule by surrounding himself with continuously clapping "yes men", who were living in a perpetual state of fear of being next...
where can i find original version (in russian)?