Go check out also the versions that we did for Stalatube with Jamie Hyneman! Here is the link to the part1 ua-cam.com/video/q4H40seo_jI/v-deo.html Thanks to Stalatube for sponsoring the video and sending a LOT of their stainless steel tubes to be crushed!
I've done an FEA simulation in ABAQUS on this exact setup and it's amazing to see how close an explicit dynamic analysis can get to the real test. Even the way the column begins to crush and collapses is the same
The presses from the first test are absolutely BEAUTIFUL. The first two are my favorites ❤️❤️❤️ If I were you, I'd be pressing square tubes of metal and selling them as sculptures, full-time!!!!
And nobody else is going to point out that in around a minute the steel becomes weak enough to collapse without "melting". But jet fuel burning for 45 minutes cant weaken beams enough for a building to collapse according to online experts.
Since you are kind of one of the most famous Finns today, maybe you could ask the military if you can get your hands on a piece of pipe made of tank armour steel alloy and test its strength? :D
Believe it or not, tank armour isn't actually solid through and through...they have composite layers of stuff like ceramic and fine titanium mesh sandwiched between the paltes
@@weedfreer yes like very modern tanks etc have. I was thinking of the older ones, when the amour was not much more than steel only, but a very special and secret aloy of steel, with properties not found in any other aloy for civilian use. So i was curious how it will perform. I heared that even working with it is a total pain in the ass, becuase it somehow doesen´t "want" to be cut with angle grinders and holes to be drilled into it, and resists and wears the tools much much more than any normal steel.
What would happen if you drill small holes through the tube equally (for weight reduction).. I wonder how much it affects the peak rating with different sized holes :)
The way the tube crumples into these perfect little ribbons is incredibly satisfying. Like, to the point where it almost looks like an animation @corridorcrew could do for one of their challenges. Just an endless loop of steel tube crumpling...I'd fall asleep watching that...
Hey hydraulic press channel! Maybe put thermistor inside tube or aim temperature gun at the tube for interesting data! Also Stalatube should make you a stainless mountain bike so you can ride over lava safely! Ride ride ride!
*So, it looks like stainless was the bigger winner with what was selected for the torture tests.* I am not surprised after drilling stainless many times over the last 30 years. The metals added to create stainless alloy are typically brittle when compared to more common and affordable steels. *A lot of stainless is also often austenitic, so this means a low number of free electrons with the molecular bonds formed.*
@@stestar09 absolutely. I have a plasma torch that makes punching a hole for a nut and bolt a much easier process than using my drill press. I avoid having to drill it at all costs.
We used to make turbo manifolds for our drift cars out of 304l instead of 316 because we believed they would do better with the heat and pressure. Wasnt expecting your results. But the 304 one looked a bit crooked in the press 🧐
While I really like this sort of video I'm a bit sad that you didn't use any strong alloyed steelin the comparison. That said, I am glad you used 355 instead of the very common and weaker 235 steel. I am also impressed how much force some of the stainless steel took - in my mind, stainless steel was always something very weak. And while there are steel grades that are a lot stronger, it still beat the basic steel very easily.
You can find grades of stainless steel at almost all strength levels depending on how much you're willing to spend. There are many types of duplex and super duplex stainless that match the strongest grades of "normal" steel.
I wonder if the Folding Pattern has to do with the initial first crush and its first fold shape or if the hardness and strength has a effect also on the Folding shape. TBH it would be a whole test to try like 3 of each materials and for each crush just change one variable like crushing speed, placement, angle, ect, but only one change at a time so we can see if it has a effect to many changed makes it hard to know why. But that you already know since your a full fledged scientist now with a goal to create a material more amazing then anything on earth "ICE7" I cannot wait! Another cool test I would kill to see but its pretty impossible to get on camera if you can do it, the idea is to make molten metal with a press due to friction\pressure I would even settle to see you weld 2 items together with friction and have a camera under like the hole to see if we can see the edges glow while it's being pushed through.
Long time fan here Love you videos not sure if you’re aware but there’s a lot of people stealing your content on TikTok I’ve been reporting the accounts to TikTok when I come across them.
I'd like to see a broader comparison. Not only mild steel and different grades of stainless, but different grades of high carbon tool steels as well. Also test them with something other than the press. I bet some that do poorly against the press will do well against for example a drop hammer, and vice versa. If you can manage to fly overseas and do some of it in America, I'm sure channels like Kentucky Ballistics, Ballistic High Speed and Demolition Ranch would help you test them against bullets too.
You want the "Hydraulic Press Channel" to use things other than a hydraulic press? One of us is going to be unhappy, but I just like to watch things go squish. I watch other channels when I want to learn hardcore materials science
@@lilpenguin092 Ahh don't get so judgy, it's not sacrilege and they've branched out before. Maybe it'd be something that went on their 'Beyond the Press' channel.
@@assepa That's a good point. It's _tool_ steel not _tube_ steel, so factories may not make it in tubes. You probably can only get bars and ingots. :P Still, you can test bar vs bar, ingot vs ingot.
For a real strength test, you must bring the materials to an equal temperature and not expose them to fire for a certain time. By doing so, all materials experienced different temperatures, depending on their heat conductivity...
Stainless steels heat much easier than regular steel. It's obvious for example when tigwelding. That's because emissivity in thermal spectrum is way much lower. If comparing strength vs temperature, stainless steels would win even greater margin
That must be why drilling & cutting of stainless steel is a harder process, because the heat doesn't dissipate as well & burns the bits & blades out . I perform both cutting & drilling with low speeds & higher pressure for longevity of the tool or bit
@@stestar09 It’s not about heat. The main reason is, most stainless steel’s are work hardening. It means, any kind of rubbing can harden it so hard it can destroy a drill bit. That happens very easily when drilling by hand. In a drill press, where you can take off proper chips, the problem can be avoided. Another reason is so called gumminess, which makes steel behave like gum and also stick into surface. Try to tap stainless without high quality high pressure tapping fluid, and you know. There’s not much heat involved in hand tapping, but these two properties cause problems.
Get some engine pistons, rods, and crankshafts and see what carnage you can do with them. Maybe even an old engine block, force the piston/rod down into it and see if you can explode the whole thing.
so if steel needs to get a lil red to deform at 10 tonnes compared to 16 normally, how did a fire near the top of the twin towers cause them to collapse when the supporting structure that high up is holding 10% the weight the same supporting structure at the base is but the steel only went down to 60%ish the normal strength, for a slow deformation, not a sudden and quick failure... the math don't add up for what is told. if a plane was going to take a tower of that design down it would have done so soon after the plane hit or not at all, not a good while after then a sudden and coincidently very controlled looking manner, like wouldn't the majority of the damage be on the side of impact with the wings and engines doing less damage as they smash into the tower and cause a collapse with a tendency to lean as it does? you would think an uncontrolled failure of the structure would cause a wider area of debris then a couple blocks in any direction, and only a few other buildings damaged beyond what would be considered minor, it just doesn't add up intuitively in my mind no matter how I think it through, especially after seeing this, oh well, classic murica, anything to go to war for oil control
Essentially 9/11 the towers did the exact same thing planes hit the towers and the press actied like the floors above the inferno the inferno was the propane torch here. Once the jet fuel heated the steel probably accelerated by the massive amount of oxygen blasting though the building it just buckled and all the floors fell though the tower collapsing it
@HydraulicPressChannel my Titanium implants seem to be holding up to my increasing mass. 😂 Thankfully I'm not a Hydraulic Press. 👍 Nor am I on Fire; even though it does get hot here in the desert. 🏜
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Go check out also the versions that we did for Stalatube with Jamie Hyneman! Here is the link to the part1 ua-cam.com/video/q4H40seo_jI/v-deo.html Thanks to Stalatube for sponsoring the video and sending a LOT of their stainless steel tubes to be crushed!
Jamie Hyneman is a legend! Really nice you made a video with him!
Do you sell the crushed tubes?
No matter how many times I see it, the square tubes folding like that is extremely satisfying to watch
yeah ... I could watch it all day long
I was about to comment the exact same thing. Definitely a personal favorite for me!
It reminds me of ribbon candy 😊
Already saw it, it came up in my recommended list.
Love to watch science geeks sciencing!
I've done an FEA simulation in ABAQUS on this exact setup and it's amazing to see how close an explicit dynamic analysis can get to the real test. Even the way the column begins to crush and collapses is the same
Cool story bro
What interesting folds those tubes make. I would like to see the Damascus patterns a blade smith could make with those pieces.
I watched that video with you Jamie and Pekka and it was hilarious. You did such a good job working together. The humor was perfect.
Hey!!! You cleaned the doors!
I love the folding-style of those square-tubes.
I'd like to see them crush till the end
The presses from the first test are absolutely BEAUTIFUL. The first two are my favorites ❤️❤️❤️ If I were you, I'd be pressing square tubes of metal and selling them as sculptures, full-time!!!!
I'd like to see a strength test comparing multiple pieces of the same type of steel that have been heat-treated in various ways.
I seriously want a couple of those crushed down tubes I could make a pretty awesome looking lamp out of a couple of them stacked on top of each other
And nobody else is going to point out that in around a minute the steel becomes weak enough to collapse without "melting". But jet fuel burning for 45 minutes cant weaken beams enough for a building to collapse according to online experts.
Since you are kind of one of the most famous Finns today, maybe you could ask the military if you can get your hands on a piece of pipe made of tank armour steel alloy and test its strength? :D
Believe it or not, tank armour isn't actually solid through and through...they have composite layers of stuff like ceramic and fine titanium mesh sandwiched between the paltes
@@weedfreer yes like very modern tanks etc have. I was thinking of the older ones, when the amour was not much more than steel only, but a very special and secret aloy of steel, with properties not found in any other aloy for civilian use.
So i was curious how it will perform.
I heared that even working with it is a total pain in the ass, becuase it somehow doesen´t "want" to be cut with angle grinders and holes to be drilled into it, and resists and wears the tools much much more than any normal steel.
What would happen if you drill small holes through the tube equally (for weight reduction).. I wonder how much it affects the peak rating with different sized holes :)
The way the tube crumples into these perfect little ribbons is incredibly satisfying. Like, to the point where it almost looks like an animation @corridorcrew could do for one of their challenges. Just an endless loop of steel tube crumpling...I'd fall asleep watching that...
I've always enjoyed the Lasagna-fication of these tubes since the first time you crushed some. Prrritti Guud.
And I have still a lot of those tubes so you might see some funny faces on them in future shorts videos :D
@@HydraulicPressChannel 🤪👀
thank you for doing the collaboration with stalatube and jamie hyneman:D
dude, i would love to have one of those pressed beams, like wow they are pretty!
Thank you for producing content. As always it is informative and entertaining. Be well guys
i would rate this 9/11
The vertically crushed square tubes look very pleasing. I would buy table legs with these optics.
Great stuff! Now you have to straighten them out again 😂
Hey hydraulic press channel! Maybe put thermistor inside tube or aim temperature gun at the tube for interesting data! Also Stalatube should make you a stainless mountain bike so you can ride over lava safely! Ride ride ride!
Interesting to see that the strongest steel buckles from the bottom, whilst the others from the top. I will need to find out why!
1:38 look at those adorable froggy faces! 🐸
The heat test is exactly what happened at the World Trade Center on 9/11😢
I love how sometimes they fold up and resemble frog faces 🐸
What happened to the electrical panel in the background? It looks cleaner!
Hanna cleaned it, so you are right it's lot cleaner :D
@@HydraulicPressChannelgood job Hanna. 👏
*So, it looks like stainless was the bigger winner with what was selected for the torture tests.* I am not surprised after drilling stainless many times over the last 30 years. The metals added to create stainless alloy are typically brittle when compared to more common and affordable steels. *A lot of stainless is also often austenitic, so this means a low number of free electrons with the molecular bonds formed.*
Drilling stainless i find lower speed / higher pressure , heat is the enemy when cutting or drilling it's a tough material
@@stestar09 absolutely. I have a plasma torch that makes punching a hole for a nut and bolt a much easier process than using my drill press. I avoid having to drill it at all costs.
We used to make turbo manifolds for our drift cars out of 304l instead of 316 because we believed they would do better with the heat and pressure. Wasnt expecting your results. But the 304 one looked a bit crooked in the press 🧐
try the unbreakable glass against the hydraulic press
Cold working tool steel would be interesting too.
When it passes 200°C or so and the heat treatment wears off, it should be easier to deform.
I would love to see how much stronger square tube is with round hollow pipe stood up inside it snug fit .
6:46 interesting observation about increasing height under heat
0:31 do sponsors enforce specific outcomes in return for their collaboration?
While I really like this sort of video I'm a bit sad that you didn't use any strong alloyed steelin the comparison.
That said, I am glad you used 355 instead of the very common and weaker 235 steel.
I am also impressed how much force some of the stainless steel took - in my mind, stainless steel was always something very weak.
And while there are steel grades that are a lot stronger, it still beat the basic steel very easily.
You can find grades of stainless steel at almost all strength levels depending on how much you're willing to spend. There are many types of duplex and super duplex stainless that match the strongest grades of "normal" steel.
You guys rock I needed that
Thanks!
Thanks to you also!
what temperature you reach at max with this torch before the steel begin to loose its strenght?
Those look really cool. You could sell them as table ornaments.
Does the Lean Duplex STALA630D come with google eyes standard or only special order?
Wäre kool die Temperatur zu wissen 🤩🍒🙋🏻♀️
I wonder if the Folding Pattern has to do with the initial first crush and its first fold shape or if the hardness and strength has a effect also on the Folding shape. TBH it would be a whole test to try like 3 of each materials and for each crush just change one variable like crushing speed, placement, angle, ect, but only one change at a time so we can see if it has a effect to many changed makes it hard to know why. But that you already know since your a full fledged scientist now with a goal to create a material more amazing then anything on earth "ICE7" I cannot wait! Another cool test I would kill to see but its pretty impossible to get on camera if you can do it, the idea is to make molten metal with a press due to friction\pressure I would even settle to see you weld 2 items together with friction and have a camera under like the hole to see if we can see the edges glow while it's being pushed through.
I wasn't going to go to the video sponsor at the end... but you said Jamie Hyneman and I HAD to go
satisfying to watch indeed. What will happend if you use round tube?
You should start filming with a FLIR. Would be interesting to see things heating up.
Stainless looks pretty cool as it heats up.
Long time fan here Love you videos not sure if you’re aware but there’s a lot of people stealing your content on TikTok I’ve been reporting the accounts to TikTok when I come across them.
I'd like to see a broader comparison. Not only mild steel and different grades of stainless, but different grades of high carbon tool steels as well. Also test them with something other than the press. I bet some that do poorly against the press will do well against for example a drop hammer, and vice versa. If you can manage to fly overseas and do some of it in America, I'm sure channels like Kentucky Ballistics, Ballistic High Speed and Demolition Ranch would help you test them against bullets too.
You want the "Hydraulic Press Channel" to use things other than a hydraulic press? One of us is going to be unhappy, but I just like to watch things go squish. I watch other channels when I want to learn hardcore materials science
@@lilpenguin092 Ahh don't get so judgy, it's not sacrilege and they've branched out before. Maybe it'd be something that went on their 'Beyond the Press' channel.
I don't think you can buy tubes made out of carbon tool steel. Highest I can find is s690.
@@assepa That's a good point. It's _tool_ steel not _tube_ steel, so factories may not make it in tubes. You probably can only get bars and ingots. :P Still, you can test bar vs bar, ingot vs ingot.
@@DaveC2729 sure but the press parts are also made from tool steel, so then what exactly will you be testing ;)
It makes a delicious looking pattern.
Jet Fuel can't melt steel beams
I have already seen the Stala video :D
Nice headband dude
how much would you charge to sell that tube after you squished it into a ribbon tube?
I didn't expect the it to fold like thick caramel. Very enjoyable to watch
The press got nothin' on plastic eye stickers at 2:18
You made art!
For a real strength test, you must bring the materials to an equal temperature and not expose them to fire for a certain time. By doing so, all materials experienced different temperatures, depending on their heat conductivity...
If the steel is going to be used as building material, wouldn't this be a more relevant test to see how they'd continue to stand in a fire?
@@Ultimaximus from this point of view, yes
This is some extreme temperature on that steel
Next project: "Installing an LS pump on our press"
Can you make the crushed stainless ones into large candle holders for Christmas ?
is it good or bad i'm like 'i'm melting' with each tube crushed?
What was the wall thickness? 1.5mm , 2 mm?
What happened to testing bridge designs that could take the most pressure Is that for subscribers only?
Ah yes, the high-strength stainless steel hollow section
These are art works you should sell these !
You look very happy, theres plenty of fish in the sea,
Cool helmet man.
Olis aika mielenkiintoinen jos näitä ja muita hiili-teräs ja dublex-teräksiä kokeilisi -30-50°c asteisena. Rosterihan kestää kuulemma kylmää enemmän.
Is chromoly steel stronger than stainless and mild?
I think at least on room temperature there is probably chromoly alloy that does even better than lean duplex
You need to specifically test the statement: JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS. Asking for a fren.
It might be interesting you test super alloy in this conditions of heating ! But it's very expensive.
Lets see how this goes. I would like to at least try titanium in part 2
yes ... interesting but very expensive
When will you finally start selling those fine pieces of Art ?
Stainless steels heat much easier than regular steel. It's obvious for example when tigwelding.
That's because emissivity in thermal spectrum is way much lower. If comparing strength vs temperature, stainless steels would win even greater margin
And the heat conductivity is lower, so the heat focuses more in one spot.
That must be why drilling & cutting of stainless steel is a harder process, because the heat doesn't dissipate as well & burns the bits & blades out . I perform both cutting & drilling with low speeds & higher pressure for longevity of the tool or bit
@@stestar09 It’s not about heat. The main reason is, most stainless steel’s are work hardening. It means, any kind of rubbing can harden it so hard it can destroy a drill bit. That happens very easily when drilling by hand. In a drill press, where you can take off proper chips, the problem can be avoided.
Another reason is so called gumminess, which makes steel behave like gum and also stick into surface. Try to tap stainless without high quality high pressure tapping fluid, and you know. There’s not much heat involved in hand tapping, but these two properties cause problems.
Does fire melt steel beams
This man bears a striking resemblance to flea from Red Hot Chili Peppers 😮 he’s even got the gapped front teeth!!!!
now do it again with intumescent paint on it to show why that's useful.
Wow so interesting thanks
We need to see Hannah much more often.
heck id by a piece of the folded stainless.
Get some engine pistons, rods, and crankshafts and see what carnage you can do with them. Maybe even an old engine block, force the piston/rod down into it and see if you can explode the whole thing.
That is so fkn satisfying.... 😮❤
I wonder how hot the flame is...
so if steel needs to get a lil red to deform at 10 tonnes compared to 16 normally, how did a fire near the top of the twin towers cause them to collapse when the supporting structure that high up is holding 10% the weight the same supporting structure at the base is but the steel only went down to 60%ish the normal strength, for a slow deformation, not a sudden and quick failure... the math don't add up for what is told. if a plane was going to take a tower of that design down it would have done so soon after the plane hit or not at all, not a good while after then a sudden and coincidently very controlled looking manner, like wouldn't the majority of the damage be on the side of impact with the wings and engines doing less damage as they smash into the tower and cause a collapse with a tendency to lean as it does? you would think an uncontrolled failure of the structure would cause a wider area of debris then a couple blocks in any direction, and only a few other buildings damaged beyond what would be considered minor, it just doesn't add up intuitively in my mind no matter how I think it through, especially after seeing this, oh well, classic murica, anything to go to war for oil control
You need a new tin foil hat.
Here I am thinking flea started pressing stuff with an accent
Press fuel can‘t melt steel beams.
Crush some big cast steel things 😊
Essentially 9/11 the towers did the exact same thing planes hit the towers and the press actied like the floors above the inferno the inferno was the propane torch here. Once the jet fuel heated the steel probably accelerated by the massive amount of oxygen blasting though the building it just buckled and all the floors fell though the tower collapsing it
Yes thank You 😀😃😄😁
It depends on how the metal is formulated and shaped.
It actually all depends on it's molecular structure
@@lilpenguin092Molecular structure is formulated.
Wow! Interesting to see so different characteristics. 😃👍
5:05 taste the rainbow 🌈 skittles steel
Should have used jet fuel
Try it with titanum 😍😍
Great idea! I will do part2 with different metals under fire. Titanium should do super well
@HydraulicPressChannel my Titanium implants seem to be holding up to my increasing mass. 😂 Thankfully I'm not a Hydraulic Press. 👍 Nor am I on Fire; even though it does get hot here in the desert. 🏜
Crushing it!🎉
Higher the carbon the harder the metal, but more brittle
Next crush Isabela from Encanto doll with Hydraulic Press
Very artistic crushing
But propane doesn’t melt steel beams.
But I know what fuel does… 😉
It's good you didn't use jet fuel, because we know what that can't do.
Wow this lean duplex is no joke!
This is the first time I saw your face
wooo! first couple of comments! Hi Lauri! lol