The whole point of the joint is to make a very strong joint that is aesthetically pleasing, i love the look of dovetail joints but not everyone today or back then did, hence the hidden dovetail joint. You sir are an artist watching you work is an education and a joy. Have a great day.
There is one of these in the corner of the stair string at the landing in my parents' very old house. In a 12" x 2" bit of oak. I put it there, and only I know that it is there. Until someone else needs to replace the stairs in _another_ 500 years. (The house was built in 1450-ish) It was made more fun by the fact that the walls it fis against are not at 90 degrees and the joint is not perpendicular to the strings. (But, also, it took me most of a week, not 10 minutes and 36 seconds)
this is AMAZING I love your videos. after watching your chisel work. I attempted two butterflys in a Crack I had on a table. I took my time and they came out flawless. woodworking is so rewarding.
The people watching your joinery videos and saying dowls or simple dovetail joint would work, completely baffle me. You show how to do it and how you can make wonderful things. I find solace in your videos, and it's only 7pm lol, most days I watch at 1am but I'm hooked on your skill.
lots of people here saying "but No one will know what you did" but that's really against Japanese philosophy anyways. be humble, be hard-working, do things right. This is a fantastic example of what the Japanese philosophy will do, beautiful design with strength hidden and not flaunted. what a beautiful piece of work!
A labour of love and true talent you have! Your skill is envied by the negative armchair carpenters that will never get it. May they all find their true passions someday; in order to feel half of the pleasure and pride you do. Working at something simply for its beautiful creation and the joy experienced in the "process"...is what ART is all about. Wonderful job!
I've been looking for a good video on how to make these secret/hidden dovetails for a while now. I found it. Great job! You've got yourself a new subscriber.
Most, or perhaps all of us, don't have nearly the skill set Mr. Bracht has, me included. Just because we can use a keyboard with the help of spellcheck doesn't give us the right to critique or even suggest guidance. We ought to be grateful a Master Craftsman / Tischler Meister is willing to share his skill. A skill he acquired over many years compromised in short and concise videos. Never mind the 'wrong' camera angle as somebody eluded. You completely missed the bus. Wait for the next if there is one for you. Mr. Bracht, its an absolute treat to watch you work on a level most don't even come close. Please continue as is. Alles Gute und vielen Dank !!
No one is truly a master, there is always something left to learn. His wood woodworking his incredible, but maybe his filming could improve? Everyone has a right to critique, and you don't have the right to take that away. I still loved the video and can't stop watching :)
Excellent work as always. I always wonder who the people are who click the thumbs down button on something like this. Maybe they’re looking for a tutorial, which you’ve made clear this series is not intended to be. Although, I learn a lot from watching.
Great job!!! The only sad part that joint is that if you didn't make the joint you never know or understand just how much work and talent goes into making that joint. Well done!
This is stunning work. I know you describe this as “not a how-to,” but I’m interested in learning these techniques . Can you suggest any resources to help a beginner get started?
Really depends on what you mean by beginner, but David Charlesworth made a video on how to cut this joint: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/furniture-making-techniques-secret-mitre-dovetail
Thank you for sharing your passion and craft. I suspect I have several nights of viewing to get through. (Would you happen to have the links for Ep 1 & 2).
I remember having to do a concealed dovetail when i was an apprentice, it didn't turn out quite as well as yours but i got a pass anyway. Nice to see sharp tools. For any novices out there a job is much easier with sharp tools, you should be able to shave the hairs on your arm with your chisels.
Hey Dorian, been following your vids for a few years. Question....on this full blind dovetail, it looks like you chose to mark and cut the pins first. I’m assuming that you’d normally cut tails first, is there a reason why you went pins first on this one? Mate in work is going to try, thought I’d ask Cheers
Hey, thanks for following along! Definitely do the pins first with blind dovetails so when you use them to mark out the tails you get the dovetail angle correct. Since there is not much space to mark with the rabbet.
Nice tight beautiful joint, how did the inside turn out? you didn't show the inside corner of the joint. I wanted to see if all your hard work turned up a true blind joint inside and out. Feel a bit let down on that bit. Still, from the outside it is a gorgeous joint.
Super Video, Dorian. Ich habe mir mal ein Buch über Holzverbindungen (Japanische und westliche), gibt leider kaum Deutsche Bücher darüber. Das schöne an den japanischen Holzverbindungen ist ja, das es alles Steckverbindungen sind. Die man immer wieder lösen kann/ könnte. Dadurch stehen noch einige Japanische Pagoden (Tempel).
Danke! Das liebe ich halt auch. Es gibt aber auch westliche Varianten. Ich liebe Holzverbindungen generell, egal ob aus Ost oder West :) Kannst dir auch japanische oder englische kaufen. Wenn sie Zeichnungen drin haben versteht man das ja auch. Technik bringt man sich ja sowieso selbst bei ;)
Well done, this guy really skilled worker. Beautiful sharp hand tools. I just wondering the tools from japan? And You? Best regards Hungarian man from New Zealand
Beautiful! Nicely done! One question though, is this joint used with glue? If it is, are the dovetails too tight for the glue to be of use? Ok, that was two questions Lol.
yeah lets say for pentagon, but the woods wouldn't have 45 degree angle but 54 each, joint stays exacly the same.. Just one question how strong are joints ? Are they stronger than nails and wood, and how do you measure angles for mini slots that fit one to another ? (any specific angle or more angles are good ? )
Clever joint. However in today's woodworking it's basically a sin because it makes it look like a simple mitre joint found in cheap furniture and hides the beautiful dovetails that took so long. New subscriber.
Yeah, well, I'm sorry but this joint is like 1/10 of a mm off or so. I don't know I'll be able to sleep after seeing this mess :-) Dude, err, Sama, I mean, this is off this world. Subscribed ...
Another secret of their trade is to sharpen their chisels and all other planning and shaving wooden tools is to sharpen them and finish off their finely honed and sharpened cutting bladed ends to a minimum 4,000 grit size sharpening and polishing agent then a Japan stone perfect finish. I have seen wood shavings so thin they almost float in the atmosphere.
A truly beautiful and humble joint! No one will ever know the care and craft that went into it; it shows respect for the wood and the craft itself.
+Greg Urquhart, thanks ;) I just love how sturdy this joint is.
The whole point of the joint is to make a very strong joint that is aesthetically pleasing, i love the look of dovetail joints but not everyone today or back then did, hence the hidden dovetail joint. You sir are an artist watching you work is an education and a joy. Have a great day.
+kevin austin thank you!
There is one of these in the corner of the stair string at the landing in my parents' very old house. In a 12" x 2" bit of oak.
I put it there, and only I know that it is there. Until someone else needs to replace the stairs in _another_ 500 years. (The house was built in 1450-ish)
It was made more fun by the fact that the walls it fis against are not at 90 degrees and the joint is not perpendicular to the strings.
(But, also, it took me most of a week, not 10 minutes and 36 seconds)
All the strength of a dovetail with a nice clean finished look, nicely done!
+Kelly Roberts thank you :)
this is AMAZING I love your videos. after watching your chisel work. I attempted two butterflys in a Crack I had on a table. I took my time and they came out flawless. woodworking is so rewarding.
+Art Connolly thanks! I'm glad I could encourage you to do some woodworking :) Also glad your work turned out well! Patience is really key ;)
The people watching your joinery videos and saying dowls or simple dovetail joint would work, completely baffle me. You show how to do it and how you can make wonderful things. I find solace in your videos, and it's only 7pm lol, most days I watch at 1am but I'm hooked on your skill.
Thank you very much!
lots of people here saying "but No one will know what you did" but that's really against Japanese philosophy anyways. be humble, be hard-working, do things right. This is a fantastic example of what the Japanese philosophy will do, beautiful design with strength hidden and not flaunted. what a beautiful piece of work!
Thanks ;)
That right there.
*puts it on youtube.
Still beautiful
Well said. This was relaxing to watch!!
A labour of love and true talent you have! Your skill is envied by the negative armchair carpenters that will never get it. May they all find their true passions someday; in order to feel half of the pleasure and pride you do. Working at something simply for its beautiful creation and the joy experienced in the "process"...is what ART is all about. Wonderful job!
+Love2 Hike2 thanks!
Wonderful display of patience and respect for the process.
+Greg Henderson thank you :)
I've been looking for a good video on how to make these secret/hidden dovetails for a while now. I found it. Great job! You've got yourself a new subscriber.
+MrPepakuracostumes thank you! Glad I could help!
It's always relaxing to see precision craft at work, and even more seeing those small shavings come one after another. Thanks for the share
+Steel Mecano thanks for watching!
Most, or perhaps all of us, don't have nearly the skill set Mr. Bracht has, me included. Just because we can use a keyboard with the help of spellcheck doesn't give us the right to critique or even suggest guidance. We ought to be grateful a Master Craftsman / Tischler Meister is willing to share his skill. A skill he acquired over many years compromised in short and concise videos. Never mind the 'wrong' camera angle as somebody eluded. You completely missed the bus. Wait for the next if there is one for you. Mr. Bracht, its an absolute treat to watch you work on a level most don't even come close. Please continue as is. Alles Gute und vielen Dank !!
Thank you very much for your kind words! Stay awesome ;)
No one is truly a master, there is always something left to learn. His wood woodworking his incredible, but maybe his filming could improve? Everyone has a right to critique, and you don't have the right to take that away. I still loved the video and can't stop watching :)
Was actually totally surprised how beautiful this turned out! Amazing job, hope to get there someday.
+Seth's Project thank you very much ;)
Stunning sir, I love the intense concentration to produce precision. I am obsessed with the art and people like you are very inspiring. Thank you.
Thank you!
Wow! Beautiful, resilient, strong job. Amazing, congratulations on your skills, knowledge, experience and patience.
+O C thank you very much :)
Beautiful joint, well done. Can't wait to see more of your videos
Thank you
Thank you
Excellent work as always. I always wonder who the people are who click the thumbs down button on something like this. Maybe they’re looking for a tutorial, which you’ve made clear this series is not intended to be. Although, I learn a lot from watching.
Excelente estimado Dorian, todos tus trabajos son de excelente calidad y profecionalismo. felicidades. saludos desde México.
So satisfying. A clean joint.
+Shane Asomi thank you!
Beautiful 😍 Thank you for sharing this! I hope it is as easy as you make it look lol! Owe you one, okay actually 3 now 😂👍
These videos are awesome. Thanks for posting and please add more.
Subscribed.
No intention to try this myself, just enjoying the skill and artistry of your work!
Thanks!
I was trying to imagine a hidden finger joint, so I had to come check your video. thanks, this helped.
Beautiful joint there. I’ll try it next time around, thank you ✊🏽
Incredible manuel work, real handcraft, congrats
+Ömer Faruk Petek thank you very much :)
Very nice, you got a new subscriber. Your next project should be building better clamps. XD
+Ziad Natsheh thanks! But I like my kliklamps:)
They were moving too much and couldn't clamp the wood properly.
Dorian Bracht Put some rubber material between the workbench and the piece of wood. This will prevent it from moving
good call!
J D
A great idea using jigs. Thanks for the share, subscribed and off to watch more 👍🏼😊
+Marc it's the only way to get them accurate ;) thanks for subscribing!
Dorian Bracht Yes I agree. Pleasure is mine Dorian 👍🏼😊
Have you created a video on how to make the jig that this piece of wood is in for the trimming shown ?
Great job!!! The only sad part that joint is that if you didn't make the joint you never know or understand just how much work and talent goes into making that joint. Well done!
+Chris Currell thank you!
I don't think that not seeing the joint and the work that goes into it, justifies not using it :)
This is stunning work. I know you describe this as “not a how-to,” but I’m interested in learning these techniques . Can you suggest any resources to help a beginner get started?
Really depends on what you mean by beginner, but David Charlesworth made a video on how to cut this joint: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/furniture-making-techniques-secret-mitre-dovetail
Very glad to have watched this video!
I‘m also glad!
Thank you for sharing your passion and craft. I suspect I have several nights of viewing to get through. (Would you happen to have the links for Ep 1 & 2).
+Greg Maitland click on the channel link, then you can watch all my videos :)
Very nice! You could make a very fine and super strong box using your joint! Thank you.
Yes, true! Thank you!
Awesome craftsmanship.
Thank yo!
Wow, beautiful. I never subscribed based on one video.....until now!
+Steven Rochon thanks for the compliment!
Hi Dorian. Can you post a picture of the wooden jug that you use to create the angle? It’s the one that you start using at the 8:00 mark. Thanks!
I‘ll try to next week.
Thanks Dorian!
OMG this joint is very difficult to get right. I'd be interested to learn more about those 45 degree jigs you used.
i can't believe how tight that was... the video definitely should be sold with the piece, whatever you built...
+Judson Clayto good call :) or maybe a link would be enough ;)
Look into making a few bench hooks. That will save you the sliding issues you were having. Top notch joinery.
+Phil Smith thanks, but I think I will go with high friction matts. It is pretty much impossible to fit bench hooks on a german workbench :(
Beautiful work ..artistry
Thank you!
I did this joint, for a sewing cabinet for my mother, when I was 16, but that was a long time ago. [1960]
Nice!
Very nice work
Thank you!
The music makes me feel like my call was placed on hold, and I'm just waiting for them to pick up
I remember having to do a concealed dovetail when i was an apprentice, it didn't turn out quite as well as yours but i got a pass anyway. Nice to see sharp tools. For any novices out there a job is much easier with sharp tools, you should be able to shave the hairs on your arm with your chisels.
Thanks, I remember doing my first concealed ones in my apprenticeship....ohhh man they looked really bad XD
Hey Dorian, been following your vids for a few years.
Question....on this full blind dovetail, it looks like you chose to mark and cut the pins first.
I’m assuming that you’d normally cut tails first, is there a reason why you went pins first on this one?
Mate in work is going to try, thought I’d ask
Cheers
Hey, thanks for following along!
Definitely do the pins first with blind dovetails so when you use them to mark out the tails you get the dovetail angle correct. Since there is not much space to mark with the rabbet.
@@DorianBracht thanks appreciate you answering.
this is a beautiful joint. thank you
+Browning Lui thanks!
Standing ovation! Nice!
Thank you!
have you done a load /stress test on your joints? I would like to know how much they can hold
Haven't done it. Maybe in the future...
The Japanese super thin draw blade saws are worth every dollar of the money that they cost.
fantastic work!
+Conor Brady thanks ;)
Nice tight beautiful joint, how did the inside turn out? you didn't show the inside corner of the joint. I wanted to see if all your hard work turned up a true blind joint inside and out. Feel a bit let down on that bit. Still, from the outside it is a gorgeous joint.
+Thomas Russell thanks! Take it from me, it was tight. I've done them a couple times before. I just forgot to take pictures of the inside...
Super Video, Dorian.
Ich habe mir mal ein Buch über Holzverbindungen (Japanische und westliche), gibt leider kaum Deutsche Bücher darüber.
Das schöne an den japanischen Holzverbindungen ist ja, das es alles Steckverbindungen sind. Die man immer wieder lösen kann/ könnte.
Dadurch stehen noch einige Japanische Pagoden (Tempel).
Danke! Das liebe ich halt auch. Es gibt aber auch westliche Varianten. Ich liebe Holzverbindungen generell, egal ob aus Ost oder West :)
Kannst dir auch japanische oder englische kaufen. Wenn sie Zeichnungen drin haben versteht man das ja auch. Technik bringt man sich ja sowieso selbst bei ;)
Das stimmt auch wieder.
weil das merke ich wenn ich hier Videos schaue, da sind viele in Englisch. Aber bilder sagen mehr wie worte. :-)
Jajaja no sé por qué pero me resulta muy relajante ver el trabajo de esta persona y lo felicito tiene una técnica impecable saludos desde Ecuador
Well done, this guy really skilled worker. Beautiful sharp hand tools. I just wondering the tools from japan? And You? Best regards Hungarian man from New Zealand
Thank you! Yes some are from Japan and some are from other places :)
Maybe a dumb question. Is that possible to disassemble them after?
There are hardly any dumb questions and this is not one.
If you don't glue it, it can be taken apart, yes.
Beautiful! Nicely done! One question though, is this joint used with glue? If it is, are the dovetails too tight for the glue to be of use? Ok, that was two questions Lol.
+Hotrod Hog thanks ;)
Depends on where it is utilized, but yes, if it were to be glued I would ease up the fit a bit.
Dorian, can you make a video of your jigs and how you made them.
+I want some maybe some day ;) but honestly my jigs are slways veeery simple :)
excellent work! I want to learn Japanese joinery too, do you have recommendations on books about this type of woodworking?
+Dino Kintanar you can check daiku dojo's internet site for a good list :)
ok so im very, very new to wood working, why would you use this, more to the fact where, like a drawer; or would you make a whole cabinet like this?
+DnsBuhamut more for carcass joinery. For drawers you would typically use half blind dovetails.
How does it look on the inside is my question
+Banunu Hawawa clean ;)
it would be hidden on the inside just like a normal dovetail.
if you drill a hole from top to bottom and glue a wooden stick though it, it cannot be taken apart. if you want something permanent.
I want to use 4 of these on a dog kennel I'm building. It's very advanced for my level of experience but it would look so good.
Go for it!
Thanks for the encouragement. I think I'm going to use a combination of a router and chisel for it.
As long as it works it's all good!
Hi Dorin, what kind of hand plane are you using to get the 45 degree angle?
+quimicamunro it's called a kiwa kanna.
thanks Dorian
Nice! Who makes the marking knife at 4:44??
Thanks, it’s from Pfeil
O rapais não é um carpinteiro e nem marceneiro mas sim um super artista na arte de encaixes em madeiras...
Obrigado!
What tool are you using to scribe your lines in the begininning with the wooden handle?
+KApfunk Pfeil double bevel marking knife.
Sir , What kind of wood you use ? very nice job :-)
Thanks! The wood is Hard Maple.
cool channel, what kind of wood are you using ?
Thanks! Hard Maple.
What was the Board thickness & how large was the Rabbet you Cut Prior?
Thanks in Advance
Josh.
+JR Wood & Metal Work's I think 27mm board thickness and a 7x7mm rabbet.
That's beautiful! Thanks! :)
+Laurent Blanchet thank YOU!
Шикарное соединение !!!!
When would a joint this strong be needed practically?
+Zachary Wolf fine furniture.
What kind of wood are you using for your joinery?
Ars Gratia Artis, very awesome!
+Chad A thank you ;)
Wonder if any scheme for this is available?
I never thought i'd like watching the manipulation of dead tree carcass, but this is some pretty skookum stuff.
+Cody Moncrief thanks! I'm glad you like it!
what tool are you using at 7:45 mins?
+BODGE71 it is called a kiwa kanna.
Why lay out the tails and pins with dividers when no one is going to see them?
Excelente trabajo felicitaciones
+Luis Rivas thank you :)
very nice
+7 -13 thanks!
Can these be done angles other than 90°¿
Of course :)
yeah lets say for pentagon, but the woods wouldn't have 45 degree angle but 54 each, joint stays exacly the same.. Just one question how strong are joints ? Are they stronger than nails and wood, and how do you measure angles for mini slots that fit one to another ? (any specific angle or more angles are good ? )
Clever joint. However in today's woodworking it's basically a sin because it makes it look like a simple mitre joint found in cheap furniture and hides the beautiful dovetails that took so long.
New subscriber.
hahaha, maybe.
Thanks!
I think you should have used a bigger saw for the job at hand.
I know right!
Beautiful
+Kashif Ali thanks!
Hi, what's the first tool you used (0:18) called?
+Colin Ho it's called a kama keshiki.
Wait, can you do that again ?
+nitsn :)
Excellent
+Luis Rivas thanks!
You da The Best !
Thanks!
Yeah, well, I'm sorry but this joint is like 1/10 of a mm off or so. I don't know I'll be able to sleep after seeing this mess :-)
Dude, err, Sama, I mean, this is off this world. Subscribed ...
Thank you man!
Another secret of their trade is to sharpen their chisels and all other planning and shaving wooden tools is to sharpen them and finish off their finely honed and sharpened cutting bladed ends to a minimum 4,000 grit size sharpening and polishing agent then a Japan stone perfect finish. I have seen wood shavings so thin they almost float in the atmosphere.
Those clamps looked pretty annoying during the initial waste removal...
+Ian Forrester (ifr33) it was ok... But I now use a high friction mat under the workpiece. That works like a charm :)
Amazing.
+Cory Pride thanks!
perfectly done.
+Alexander P thanks :)
best music ever, this video is hypnotic.
+Chabert Garmin hahaha, thank you!
Ohne viel Gequatsche, selbsterklärend; danke!
Freut mich! Danke!
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Ok Look! Could you just stop being so awesome? You're making the rest of us look bad
+MJ D XD thanks man!
es fabulosamente extraordinario
Super!!!!!
+FESwoodTOOL :D thanks!
Nice👏👍👌👌👌👌
Thanks!