That 13 million number comes from a quote from Ryan Day where he told boosters, AD, and NIL groups he could see where it could cost as much as 13 million a year to keep a roster. Meaning for 85-100 players.
Lane Kiffen spread that rumor based off of what Ryan Day said last year. Ryan Day stated that in order to keep the ENTIRE ROSTER in tact, it would cost 13m. 13m is not just for a handful of transfers
This was such a strawman argument by Cover 3. That segment was borderline embarrassing to watch. No one (at least anyone with sense) ever said OSU paid $13 million on NIL for the transfer portal. Everything I have read or seen on forums have been discussing OSU spending $13 million on NIL total for this 2024 roster they have built! Built in a number of way, existing players staying, transfer portal, and 5* recruits incoming. Meaning when they field the 22-30 starting players on the field, they will be putting $13 million dollars worth of talent on the field.
@@joewiley5101 Not even close, lmao. No one cares about the handful of folks OSU picked up. Also, couldn't careless about the players Bama lost. We see this ALL the time, the most talented teams don't always win. Literally had Michigan & Washington in the NC last year, last I checked Bama, Georgia and OSU all had more 4 & 5 stars than Michigan or Wash by a LOOONG shot. So all this means nothing unless Ryan Day can actually put a team on the field with decent coaching in big games. Haven't seen it yet under Day.
@@clearstar8354 right! And this is a desperate attempt by a desperate coach, because he doesn’t know what to do to win with the talent he has. He was out coached by Moore last year. Plain and simple.
Come on man! Ryan Day threw out a number like that last year to the boosters telling them that’s what it would take to keep his roster intact. Wake up.
@@jesselussier4854 That's not what he said. Read the post again. He said "it's not just the portal". The OP (and he's right) is saying the roster is what is the $13 million, not the portal! This was a lame argument by Cover 3, they were confused.
I think most people understand that's the total they are getting paid if they complete their college careers at Ohio State. So yes, the report is true.
I’m so confused why he thinks he’s so in tap with the exact dollar amount these guys are making. OSU was in talks of equaling MHJ draft pick value which would be north of 20 mil. For ONE GUY. OSUs football department spent 279 mil last year…..13 on players is less than 5 percent of that
You haven’t done your research either lol the numbers that schools are spending are out there & OSU wasn’t even top 5… It’s not even close.. really think about it to dude lol really add it up, a lot of the players who came back aren’t making as much as you think most of them came back to win. The most that most the guys got coming back is 500,000 cuz they understand & the culture is there, also why guys aren’t leaving. There so deep it’s not funny it really shows the culture OSU has. Guys aren’t making as much as what’s out there on the internet lmao
What the hell does you living in CBUS have to do with being in the “inside loop?” 😂😂😂 Reputable outlets are reporting its half the number, including returners.
It doesn't even with Chip Kelly and the other coach tOSU just hired, the most spent will be somewhere between 9-11mil. Im not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but imma need you to recalculate those.
lol we did, you have to read. In money spent to get the he’s to return along with the recruiting class and transfer class they’ve more than likely spent beyond that
FWIW I have a few pretty good sources and here's what I know. Downs is basically 1mil a year. JTT is the highest paid player on the roster around 1.5 (he asked for 4 LOL and the collectives basically went to donors trying to raise whatever they could because they wanted to not miss on anyone. They actually raise so much for JTT that they were able to use the excess on downs.) Howard is high 6 figures. Henderson and egbuka are mid 6 figures. I'm not sure on Sayin and Judkins but was told they weren't necessarily looking for NIL. Not that they didn't get anything but they didn't break the bank at all and they both entered the portal, reached out to Ohio State immediately and really didn't consider anyone else. Judkins texted 2 other Ole Miss transfer to OSU last year and immediately said he wants to come. Didn't care about henderson being there or not. He really just wanted to win. Sayin went to Bama the first time. Why? Because he thought it was the best football option for him. The family wants him to be a #1 pick first and foremost. OSU was pushing hard for him in HS and was his second choice if he would've flipped from Bama and now his lead recruiter at Bama is his coach at OSU. JJ Smith got high 6 figures as well. Henderson has good brand deals but he didn't come back for money. Again not that he's not getting paid, but that they weren't like luring him back with a big offer. Just hey if you do want to come back, we'll take care of you. Was also told the roster as a whole is somewhere just north of 10 mil, which generally makes sense. In the portal, if we only count THIS year for Downs, they spent south of 3mil
Bit more on Sayin and Judkins. If you followed their Portal entry news, on both of them, the national writers that broke the stories on them entering the portal immediately reported Ohio State, even in their initial reports. If you follow Birm, who is the most tied in OSU recruiting guy with the OSU staff, he was basically immediately dumping cold water on the reports because the coaches were not even sure they wanted to take them, especially sayin. I think the Judkins cold water was the staff thinking they thought initially Judkins saw a wide open room (if OSU lost Trey, they would've had 2 scholarship RBs, a true freshman and a player that redshirt last year) and they knew Trey was coming back and they assumed that'd change the calculus. On Sayin, he reported that within a few hours of Sayin entering the portal, he spoke to someone on the OSU staff that was generally very hesitant to take him. He said that he talked to him a few hours later and his tone had changed a bit. They had a staff meeting 2 days later and decided to take him (birm has been saying for over a year that Sayin was OSU's QB 1 in the class was Sayin and Noland was 2). Was told by someone else that BOB *loves* sayin (I mean day does too) but basically pounded the table like guys wtf are we doing here this is the best qb in the country if we can get him on the roster we should. But again goes back to the idea that neither of those guys were lured to OSU by NIL. When they initially entered the portal, OSU literally didn't think they wanted to even pursue them and they took them because they wanted to come not because they were tampering looking for them (like I believe they did do last year for maye/downs lol)
What, Saban gets a hold of the Alabama NFL players. To give to the collective. After, it came out that CJ Straud. Gave to the collective. If, you want a car. Saban car dealership. Game on
If you don't usually comment on rumors why the need to defend Ohio St on this rumor? And you literally defended it with your opinion, which was another guess in the dark and was less substantial than the "rumor" you called out 😅 This supposed to be posted on your Ohio St account?
Well, using a nonpartisan argument just simple logic, give me ONE good reason any player would transfer to OSU from Bama, just ONE!..both are Bluebloods so thats not it..OSU a better program? NO, quite the opposite..weather? NO..playing time? NO..coaching staff? only a complete Moron would leave for that reason, not giving the new staff a chance, even one week and the fact he could still transfer in the spring..because of Ryan Day? ha, doubt it..listen up, DeBoer has won Every where hes been, have a look..Bamas OC is one of the best, Ryan Grubb, saban wanted him but had to settle for Reese..WR coach Shephard and DB coach Brown are top notch, not to mention DeBoers offensive line won the Moore award, so im still waiting for a reason...oh yea, OSU $$$$$$$$$.
One reason umm they committed to Nick Saban not Alabama guy! Plus Ohio state was second in his recruiting before he ever went to Alabama plus the DB coach Walton was good friends with Caleb Downs dad they are from the same hometown!
13 million was the number that Day told a group of donors in at a function 2 years ago. He said that was his estimate on what it would take to retain rosters going forward. Some lazy journalist dug up some old quotes.
Sucking up to donors for money, all coaches tend too now. Its a different era and it caused saban to retire which is weird because he always had great classes but its what he said
Judkins wanted a mill when he entered the transfer portal and the next day was committed to Ohio state . I do think they paid him 1-1.5 million to transfer
They didn't spend 13 mil on the portal. They only took 5 portal kids. Any basic math tells you thats almost 3 million per kid. Common sense is lacking from you people.
@@johnnyoldenjr. All you need is common sense to figure out he's right. Either way Ole Miss, Miami, TAMU and others spent way more and no one cares about them doing it. Ohio State lives rent free in your heads and its great!
This pod cast guy keeps referring to Ohio State football in the same context as a professional team in the N.F.L. operates with player compensation. NO, that is not even close to how N.I.L. works. it is still against NCAA rules for a collegiate athletic dept to pay a student athlete. N.I.L. funds come from a non profit collective organization that is not affiliated with any school. The vast majority of funds are donated and the remaining are direct athlete brand endorsements. Without this organization, only the few most marketable athletes would be getting deals. This allows other student athletes to take part. However, no student athlete can just collect a check. Any deal requires approval with a compliance department, which includes declaration of what the student athletes service is for the value of compensation. The Thirteen million statement made by Day was a collective estimate. The actual value is around twenty million. There are other collegiate athletic departments with higher N.I.L. value than Ohio State. I think i saw where Texas is at the top of the list. i also saw Tennessee announced a desired collective of twenty five million. Here is the blurry issue that i don't like, the non profit board does get to assert a market value on players. Which in a way, grants them the combined power of a team general manager and agent to a professional athlete. "The Foundation" is the non profit for Ohio State football and basketball. Everything i stated is the way i understand it. My understanding might not be 100% on everything but im not far off. If anyone has a correction or anything to add, please do.
That 13 million number comes from a quote from Ryan Day where he told boosters, AD, and NIL groups he could see where it could cost as much as 13 million a year to keep a roster. Meaning for 85-100 players.
I figured that number was for the transfers and all the juniors that came back.
It’s still not accurate lol
I don't think it was the portal, but the portal plus the retention of all the players that didn't go into the draft.
They spent $13 million in the offseason. That includes returning players, transfers, and recruits.
Lane Kiffen spread that rumor based off of what Ryan Day said last year. Ryan Day stated that in order to keep the ENTIRE ROSTER in tact, it would cost 13m. 13m is not just for a handful of transfers
kiffin the king of paying players to that sad ass team
Fans don't understand how NIL works. They hear numbers that think players are getting millions per season. Lol 😆 People are insane 😳
It wasnt for any portal player. It was to retain the current players. LISTEN to what day said. " To keep the current roster"
This was such a strawman argument by Cover 3. That segment was borderline embarrassing to watch. No one (at least anyone with sense) ever said OSU paid $13 million on NIL for the transfer portal. Everything I have read or seen on forums have been discussing OSU spending $13 million on NIL total for this 2024 roster they have built! Built in a number of way, existing players staying, transfer portal, and 5* recruits incoming. Meaning when they field the 22-30 starting players on the field, they will be putting $13 million dollars worth of talent on the field.
Yes and they still aren’t. Just mad because you lost recruits
@@joewiley5101 Not even close, lmao. No one cares about the handful of folks OSU picked up. Also, couldn't careless about the players Bama lost. We see this ALL the time, the most talented teams don't always win. Literally had Michigan & Washington in the NC last year, last I checked Bama, Georgia and OSU all had more 4 & 5 stars than Michigan or Wash by a LOOONG shot. So all this means nothing unless Ryan Day can actually put a team on the field with decent coaching in big games. Haven't seen it yet under Day.
@@clearstar8354you obviously care...and are mad lmao
@@clearstar8354 right! And this is a desperate attempt by a desperate coach, because he doesn’t know what to do to win with the talent he has. He was out coached by Moore last year. Plain and simple.
It wasn’t 13 million for the transfer portal it was 13 million for the portal and retain draft eligible players so they would come back to OSU
Come on man! Ryan Day threw out a number like that last year to the boosters telling them that’s what it would take to keep his roster intact. Wake up.
You couldnt be more wrong bud....its not just the portal. Its the roster and caleb got $1.3 alone, judkins @ $1m. Your take on this is whats laughable
So the 2 best additions totaled $2.3 million? And they got up to 13? Math isn’t mathing
Caleb downs is going to wish he join Bama team. Watch what happen this fall season 😂😂
@@jesselussier4854 That's not what he said. Read the post again. He said "it's not just the portal". The OP (and he's right) is saying the roster is what is the $13 million, not the portal! This was a lame argument by Cover 3, they were confused.
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I think most people understand that's the total they are getting paid if they complete their college careers at Ohio State. So yes, the report is true.
Which really isnt much if you think about it
@@demodiums7216 Considering student athletes got no money until now, it's a bloody fortune.
It's not 13 mill per player.
They didn't spend $13 mill, it was waaaay higher.
Post the proof! Ill wait
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No, they didn't and the majority of the money was spent to keep their guys.
I’m so confused why he thinks he’s so in tap with the exact dollar amount these guys are making. OSU was in talks of equaling MHJ draft pick value which would be north of 20 mil. For ONE GUY. OSUs football department spent 279 mil last year…..13 on players is less than 5 percent of that
Im confused why you or anyone thinks they know the dollar amout either?
@@demodiums7216they don't. Just a way to complain later
Drake Maye & Caleb Williams huh. It's Nico time in Tennessee!!!
I live in Columbus, it’s even more! You haven’t done your research
You haven’t done your research either lol the numbers that schools are spending are out there & OSU wasn’t even top 5… It’s not even close.. really think about it to dude lol really add it up, a lot of the players who came back aren’t making as much as you think most of them came back to win. The most that most the guys got coming back is 500,000 cuz they understand & the culture is there, also why guys aren’t leaving. There so deep it’s not funny it really shows the culture OSU has. Guys aren’t making as much as what’s out there on the internet lmao
What the hell does you living in CBUS have to do with being in the “inside loop?” 😂😂😂
Reputable outlets are reporting its half the number, including returners.
You living in Cbus doesn’t mean a damn thing.
How many qb did they buy just to sit there and not get drafted
For that entire roster possibly close to 13
Did you do a short for the sliced bread A&M report too?
I thought the 13 million covered the whole team, not just the transfer portal? Regardless the probably over paid for Judkins and Howard.
It does. Bud and the Cover 3 team are silly on this one.
It doesn't even with Chip Kelly and the other coach tOSU just hired, the most spent will be somewhere between 9-11mil. Im not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but imma need you to recalculate those.
@@fr0stb1ght34 When I said team I was speaking of NIL contracts covering the players, not coaches. Two difference pots completely
you poor fool ...
lol we did, you have to read. In money spent to get the he’s to return along with the recruiting class and transfer class they’ve more than likely spent beyond that
FWIW I have a few pretty good sources and here's what I know. Downs is basically 1mil a year. JTT is the highest paid player on the roster around 1.5 (he asked for 4 LOL and the collectives basically went to donors trying to raise whatever they could because they wanted to not miss on anyone. They actually raise so much for JTT that they were able to use the excess on downs.) Howard is high 6 figures. Henderson and egbuka are mid 6 figures. I'm not sure on Sayin and Judkins but was told they weren't necessarily looking for NIL. Not that they didn't get anything but they didn't break the bank at all and they both entered the portal, reached out to Ohio State immediately and really didn't consider anyone else. Judkins texted 2 other Ole Miss transfer to OSU last year and immediately said he wants to come. Didn't care about henderson being there or not. He really just wanted to win. Sayin went to Bama the first time. Why? Because he thought it was the best football option for him. The family wants him to be a #1 pick first and foremost. OSU was pushing hard for him in HS and was his second choice if he would've flipped from Bama and now his lead recruiter at Bama is his coach at OSU. JJ Smith got high 6 figures as well. Henderson has good brand deals but he didn't come back for money. Again not that he's not getting paid, but that they weren't like luring him back with a big offer. Just hey if you do want to come back, we'll take care of you. Was also told the roster as a whole is somewhere just north of 10 mil, which generally makes sense. In the portal, if we only count THIS year for Downs, they spent south of 3mil
Bit more on Sayin and Judkins. If you followed their Portal entry news, on both of them, the national writers that broke the stories on them entering the portal immediately reported Ohio State, even in their initial reports. If you follow Birm, who is the most tied in OSU recruiting guy with the OSU staff, he was basically immediately dumping cold water on the reports because the coaches were not even sure they wanted to take them, especially sayin. I think the Judkins cold water was the staff thinking they thought initially Judkins saw a wide open room (if OSU lost Trey, they would've had 2 scholarship RBs, a true freshman and a player that redshirt last year) and they knew Trey was coming back and they assumed that'd change the calculus.
On Sayin, he reported that within a few hours of Sayin entering the portal, he spoke to someone on the OSU staff that was generally very hesitant to take him. He said that he talked to him a few hours later and his tone had changed a bit. They had a staff meeting 2 days later and decided to take him (birm has been saying for over a year that Sayin was OSU's QB 1 in the class was Sayin and Noland was 2). Was told by someone else that BOB *loves* sayin (I mean day does too) but basically pounded the table like guys wtf are we doing here this is the best qb in the country if we can get him on the roster we should. But again goes back to the idea that neither of those guys were lured to OSU by NIL. When they initially entered the portal, OSU literally didn't think they wanted to even pursue them and they took them because they wanted to come not because they were tampering looking for them (like I believe they did do last year for maye/downs lol)
This guy is sooo far off , get him off the screen
What, Saban gets a hold of the Alabama NFL players. To give to the collective. After, it came out that CJ Straud. Gave to the collective. If, you want a car. Saban car dealership. Game on
If you don't usually comment on rumors why the need to defend Ohio St on this rumor? And you literally defended it with your opinion, which was another guess in the dark and was less substantial than the "rumor" you called out 😅 This supposed to be posted on your Ohio St account?
You are tripping they definitely paid at least 7millions
$BUCK$ Guys is more like it. It won't work when the 💩 hits the 🎡, just like Texas ATM.
They spent millions to add players from the portal AND retain players already on the roster. It’s not complicated.
True but not 13 million not even chip kelly and the last open coaching spot and even when the portal reopens it wont be more than 10million
Rb's break down in the pros, rarely in college
You're right it was more 😂
Well, using a nonpartisan argument just simple logic, give me ONE good reason any player would transfer to OSU from Bama, just ONE!..both are Bluebloods so thats not it..OSU a better program? NO, quite the opposite..weather? NO..playing time? NO..coaching staff? only a complete Moron would leave for that reason, not giving the new staff a chance, even one week and the fact he could still transfer in the spring..because of Ryan Day? ha, doubt it..listen up, DeBoer has won Every where hes been, have a look..Bamas OC is one of the best, Ryan Grubb, saban wanted him but had to settle for Reese..WR coach Shephard and DB coach Brown are top notch, not to mention DeBoers offensive line won the Moore award, so im still waiting for a reason...oh yea, OSU $$$$$$$$$.
Ohio st is absolutely a better program with Nick Saban gone lol. Caleb Downs almost came to OSU out of high school...
One reason umm they committed to Nick Saban not Alabama guy! Plus Ohio state was second in his recruiting before he ever went to Alabama plus the DB coach Walton was good friends with Caleb Downs dad they are from the same hometown!
13 million was the number that Day told a group of donors in at a function 2 years ago. He said that was his estimate on what it would take to retain rosters going forward. Some lazy journalist dug up some old quotes.
Sucking up to donors for money, all coaches tend too now. Its a different era and it caused saban to retire which is weird because he always had great classes but its what he said
I think they are including hiring Bill O'Brien
Judkins wanted a mill when he entered the transfer portal and the next day was committed to Ohio state . I do think they paid him 1-1.5 million to transfer
Source: Trust me bro 🙄
@@UncleRicoOSUno its true, downs too but its still less than 9 mill.
@@UncleRicoOSUeven with the chip kelly and the final coach which i hope is the special teams coach its still under 10 m
You let lane kiffin take you on a ride........ 🤦
Can't believe everything you read
@@annarborbuckeye95 They paid a bum will Howard 1 mill so why wouldn’t they pay judkins
Horrible take. 13m for entire roster, not portal. Does that math add up now ? Probs. Got your views though.
Finally someone who actually did some real research and not just report on rumors from twitter!
The "real research" shows they probably paid way more than that... What're you talking about
@@Uncle_Slevincuz you've seen the official report right? If not its all just speculation kid!
Almost certain means he doesn’t know lol
Caleb Downs alone was like $3M
They spent $14 million 😂
13 was to retain their entire roster which is made up of draft eligible players.
So you KNOW they didn’t spend $13mil or you THINK they didn’t spend $13 mil? Cuz there is a difference. You’re the only one I’ve seen deny it.
He didnt give any real evidence they didn't😂😂
@@johnnyoldenjr. right! 🤣
They didn't spend 13 mil on the portal. They only took 5 portal kids. Any basic math tells you thats almost 3 million per kid. Common sense is lacking from you people.
@@johnnyoldenjr. All you need is common sense to figure out he's right. Either way Ole Miss, Miami, TAMU and others spent way more and no one cares about them doing it. Ohio State lives rent free in your heads and its great!
@kyleb5169 michigan is the champs i wonder why osu had to get all those players oh yea to beat the champs.🤣🤣🤣
Do you really don't know anything
You said a whole lot of nothing
There is no one's opinion in sports that I trust lesser than this man's.
Who cares? $13 Million is chump change. Ever look at Ohio State Football revenues?
This pod cast guy keeps referring to Ohio State football in the same context as a professional team in the N.F.L. operates with player compensation.
NO, that is not even close to how N.I.L. works. it is still against NCAA rules for a collegiate athletic dept to pay a student athlete.
N.I.L. funds come from a non profit collective organization that is not affiliated with any school. The vast majority of funds are donated and the remaining are direct athlete brand endorsements. Without this organization, only the few most marketable athletes would be getting deals. This allows other student athletes to take part. However, no student athlete can just collect a check. Any deal requires approval with a compliance department, which includes declaration of what the student athletes service is for the value of compensation.
The Thirteen million statement made by Day was a collective estimate. The actual value is around twenty million. There are other collegiate athletic departments with higher N.I.L. value than Ohio State. I think i saw where Texas is at the top of the list. i also saw Tennessee announced a desired collective of twenty five million.
Here is the blurry issue that i don't like, the non profit board does get to assert a market value on players. Which in a way, grants them the combined power of a team general manager and agent to a professional athlete.
"The Foundation" is the non profit for Ohio State football and basketball. Everything i stated is the way i understand it. My understanding might not be 100% on everything but im not far off. If anyone has a correction or anything to add, please do.