Jim Cornette on Smaller Wrestlers

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • From Episode 275 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 334

  • @mr._muji
    @mr._muji Рік тому +80

    Presentation is one of the most important aspects of pro wrestling, whether you're small or big, skinny or muscular. Without it, wrestlers wouldn't probably make it to the business successfully.

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt Рік тому +126

    Being small isn't that much of a problem as long as they're in good and believable shape. Rey Mysterio is a perfect example.

    • @_justinblizzle
      @_justinblizzle Рік тому +38

      Yea cuz Rey got a big fuckin chest… Jungle Boy, Hook, Darby Allen and Johnny Gargano look like teenage boys… Chad Gable in comparison looks like a million bucks + his in ring work/promos are miles ahead. The package, as Jim refers too. Dragon Lee, who’s coming to NXT, is small too but he presents so much larger bcuz of his incredible physique.

    • @Excremental_Discharge
      @Excremental_Discharge Рік тому +12

      Jushin Thunder Liger is another prime example

    • @LibertarianGamer-ff5tg
      @LibertarianGamer-ff5tg Рік тому +26

      Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero too.

    • @jonathancurran5366
      @jonathancurran5366 Рік тому +11

      The mask and contacts helped, also Rey was one of a kind.

    • @Excremental_Discharge
      @Excremental_Discharge Рік тому +9

      @@jonathancurran5366 the contact lenses is a recent gimmick for Rey😐 He didn't wear them in his prime

  • @bluntamainia444
    @bluntamainia444 Рік тому +71

    I think he’s saying, you can be short but you still have to look like a full grown man.
    These guys who look like skinny high school kids are just not believable against real looking men.
    Chris Candido was short but he was also filled out and super jacked up.

    • @dariosandoval5140
      @dariosandoval5140 Рік тому +6

      Like Ivan Putsky. He was very short and very intimidating at the same time.

    • @leafy4142
      @leafy4142 Рік тому +5

      Candido was on roids. Should all wrestlers just take steroids to fit this look?

    • @bluntamainia444
      @bluntamainia444 Рік тому +9

      @@leafy4142 yes, yes they should

    • @welowee7610
      @welowee7610 Рік тому +1

      @Leafy
      Yes, if they don’t want to take it. Just go to holywood, don’t try wrestling.
      Even Billy Gunn still looks good and healthy in his 50

    • @leafy4142
      @leafy4142 Рік тому +3

      @@welowee7610 Yeah, because there's no drugs in Hollywood.

  • @janinebrittanica4314
    @janinebrittanica4314 Рік тому +63

    Malenko was very short but he was built like an amateur strongman and could grapple and work like no one else. He obviously would likely never wrestle for the big belt but he's exactly the type of smaller wrestler that could wrestle for 20 years and be placed logically in multiple places on a wrestling card and look like he belonged in the ring.

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel Рік тому +5

      A lot of old timey strongmen were short. Take strongman Arthur Saxon who set records over a century ago that have yet to be matched, let alone beaten, was 5' 8", and considered tall for his profession.

    • @janinebrittanica4314
      @janinebrittanica4314 Рік тому +1

      @@thelastmotel omg haven't thought of Saxon in years

    • @anonymousbo0318
      @anonymousbo0318 Рік тому +4

      Nowadays the fanboys watching will be constantly crying that Malenko is being misused and needs multiple world championship runs. Even that wouldn't be enough either

    • @spaniardspqr
      @spaniardspqr Рік тому +2

      Loved the Ice Man!!!

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel Рік тому

      @@janinebrittanica4314 He was the guy. Sad how his life fell off after fighting in World War 1.

  • @RyanO22
    @RyanO22 Рік тому +101

    People still getting on Jim about this are just disregarding everything he says about a wrestler who is lacking in a certain area : either get better, hide it or be really good in some other aspect.

    • @BeyondDaX
      @BeyondDaX Рік тому +24

      Pretty much explains why explains Jim has nothing but praise and respect for Rey Mysterio Jr. What he lacks in size, he can make up for everything else rather well.

    • @hawk0187ify
      @hawk0187ify Рік тому

      You are a true mark

    • @NinjaskKing
      @NinjaskKing Рік тому

      It’s funny how easy guys like Goldberg had it compared to other guys lacking in genetics

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh Рік тому

      Social media is for worthless pos anyway

    • @RickJW-OSM
      @RickJW-OSM Рік тому +4

      And Jim also hates plenty of big guys as much as he does small guys. For example his guy, 'Zippy the Pinhead.'

  • @TheJJWA
    @TheJJWA Рік тому +31

    He’s exactly right about TV. When me (6’4”) and my son (6’2”) went to a Lucha Underground taping, the producers came out and moved us from our front row seats to a back row.
    When the wrestlers came out, who looked huge on TV, they were all very short. One of the PAs told me that they didn’t want tall people that close to the wrestlers because it hurt the “illusion!”

    • @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS
      @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS Рік тому +6

      So its not just a Vince thing then.

    • @Rjensen2
      @Rjensen2 Рік тому +6

      @@insignificantaftermathPROJECTS No, every promoter that ever lived.

    • @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS
      @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS Рік тому +6

      @@Rjensen2 yet fans love to blame Vince like he is the devil for having common sense like this lol

    • @Onzie77
      @Onzie77 7 місяців тому +1

      Bro this happened to me at an nxt show Adam cole had me moved

  • @DaRealBenRichards
    @DaRealBenRichards Рік тому +23

    I grew up watching 90s superstars so never really imagined becoming a pro. Now I'm bigger then 85% of the aew roster

    • @theatbfshow7049
      @theatbfshow7049 Рік тому

      No ur not who are you

    • @TheChristianNomad
      @TheChristianNomad Рік тому +7

      @@theatbfshow7049 actually he likely is...take out the 8 or 9 tall guys and the rest of the 130 guys on the AEW roster average 5'9" 185lbs.
      The average American male is 5'10" 210lbs.

  • @QAZ-OMEN
    @QAZ-OMEN Рік тому +38

    People must forget all the good stuff he says about smaller guys like PAC , Gable and Rey Rey or that he seems to b a fan of Darby Allin , and many other examples

    • @EliC09
      @EliC09 Рік тому

      Darby Allin should not be wrestling. Dude looks like a prepubescent teenager

    • @louclarkson6098
      @louclarkson6098 Рік тому

      I love how backhanded he is with Darby. He wants to like him and hate him at the same time.

    • @kumodohaizi7234
      @kumodohaizi7234 Рік тому

      Gothic school girl darby is not believable,I rather pick Adam Cole over this dweeb,idk what corny is talking about,he should of said pac,now that's a dude that's small but he got the look,the chest that corny is so obsessed with

    • @QAZ-OMEN
      @QAZ-OMEN Рік тому

      @@kumodohaizi7234 Baby Cole is boring all he is, is a 1 word catchphrase more superkicks and more destroyers. Atleast darby has a personality.

    • @kumodohaizi7234
      @kumodohaizi7234 Рік тому

      @QAZ-OMEN what personality?the dude barely says anything,I mean at least coles shows charisma and enthusiasm,the only thing Gothic school girl has going is he's a stuntman

  • @louclarkson6098
    @louclarkson6098 Рік тому +20

    Not that savage was small, but notice how meticulous he was in how he even walked. The robe, the sequins, the walk, the promo. He may have been 6'1-62 but his presence was at least 7'0".

    • @timbow1356
      @timbow1356 Рік тому +1

      The HGH in the end likely finished off Randy Savage (See Spiderman).
      He was Huge and we all saw it coming 🧐
      (Source :Poffos)

    • @indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927
      @indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 Рік тому +5

      Randy was 5'11 range.. so was Ric. No one accuses theme of being small. Yet HBK is also 5'11, and Bret is 6'0 and they get credited for breaking barriers lol.

    • @spookrockcity
      @spookrockcity Рік тому

      @@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 Randy in a hat though was like 6'1 easy lol

  • @MichaelSmith-fq6hz
    @MichaelSmith-fq6hz Рік тому +44

    “Do drugs to age yourself.”
    - Jim Cornette, 2023

  • @Simouno
    @Simouno Рік тому +10

    To me it's quite simple, i am all for small guys in wrestling when they have a particular set of skills that make them stand out like Rey insane high Flying moves catalogue, Dean Malenko technical majesty or Darby Allin daredevil style, the problem comes when short people with no personality gets pushed to the moon just because they can flip and flop all over the ring when there's no IT factor to justify their push. Also presentation is everything, it doesn't do it for me when 90% of the roster look the same and act same because I end up caring about none of them once they are jammed together and you can't say who is who

  • @gipsydanger7
    @gipsydanger7 Рік тому +17

    Wardlow and Powerhouse are so misused in AEW, Jim forgot about how badass they look.

    • @Nick_Nightingale
      @Nick_Nightingale Рік тому +6

      Yeah I keep seeing promos for Hobbs but I’d rather see him squash some jobbers and get a belt/title.

    • @MTG-444
      @MTG-444 Рік тому +2

      Wardlow is Vanilla as fuck, gimmick is just pOwErBoMb and dressing sharply for “angry” promos. Samoa Joe’s & Darby’s TNT reigns are already more memorable.

  • @Sansri16761
    @Sansri16761 Рік тому +6

    I don't mind small wrestlers as long as they have something special and unique to them which everyone, big or small should have. "I can wrestle good" is not a gimmick!! Rey Mysterio is smaller than most but arguably one of the best ever.

  • @TriplomatX
    @TriplomatX Рік тому +11

    Watching WCW Cruiserweights these days, they translate really well as you look back and see everything they put into the matches and how much they make sense more than the World Heavyweight Division matches on WCW programming. Small guys can be special in wrestling, as long as te booker continues to make them special and not expect the fans to make them feel special.

    • @rockerboyrage1609
      @rockerboyrage1609 Рік тому +5

      Often the best matches on a WCW show.

    • @ponokanaka
      @ponokanaka Рік тому +1

      Usually the openers, and always came out fast and flying

  • @clivet3252
    @clivet3252 Рік тому +6

    It was a long time before I realised Samoa Joe wasn't that tall. He looks huge and his size doesn't make him look shorter like it does with some well built guys. It was only when I started to see him next to other people that I noticed he was about 5'11.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      big e is the same hes only 5ft10 or 5ft11 and otis is only 2 inches taller than gable..

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 Рік тому

      @@jackstraw4222 Big E and Otis look a lot shorter than Joe, though. I think they are a bit shorter, but not as much as it looks.

  • @travissmith6380
    @travissmith6380 Рік тому +13

    The Rock N Roll Express was my favorite tag team when i was a kid, but they never came off as Big or large in any kind of way, i actually thought they were on the smaller side compared to others

    • @christophermarang.3569
      @christophermarang.3569 Рік тому +1

      I think they were both 6’1 and 220. Much like the Rockers. The small guys then are the regular sized guys now.

    • @travissmith6380
      @travissmith6380 Рік тому

      @christophermarang. thats normal size for a grown man right? hell, I'm 6'2 ,250

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine Рік тому +2

      ​@@travissmith6380 5'9 is the average, there on the taller end of normal.

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 Рік тому +3

      @@christophermarang.3569 neither ricky or Robert were that big

    • @TK-mf2fr
      @TK-mf2fr Рік тому +3

      Part of their appeal was facing the larger sized teams and still gutting out the win. If they had faced nothing but guys their size or smaller (bcuz they aren't tiny) they probably wouldn't have the same appeal as underdogs. IMO

  • @YouDummy
    @YouDummy Рік тому +4

    Oh god, the little lad! Travis you are a god damned genius.

  • @SupraViperhead
    @SupraViperhead Рік тому +5

    Smaller wrestlers are fine when they're the EXCEPTION. not the RULE.

  • @steves2241
    @steves2241 Рік тому +4

    I think Jim is right, the small guys are too small to make us think they can beat the bigger guys. I think they should have a lightweight division, because it is too hard to believe a 140 lb. guy can beat a 300 lb. monster.

  • @Csquared14
    @Csquared14 Рік тому +11

    Pro wrestling and NBA are the only places I know where 6ft is probably considered as small

    • @TheTalk23
      @TheTalk23 Рік тому +4

      To Jim it may but if you take a look at legends like Shawn Michaels, Ric flair, Eddie Guerrero. All of them are 5'10. But because they look like men. Jim forgets their height.

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 Рік тому +1

      @@TheTalk23 Guerrero ain't near that

    • @lsj6721
      @lsj6721 Рік тому +1

      @@chrischar9428 he might be around 5'6.
      I remember back then, watching the likes of Carlito and Chris Jericho talking shit against John Cena (Dr. Thuganomics gimmick), and asking myself how the hell these guys would go against someone as huge as Cena.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      cena is not as tall as he seems,hes only 1 inch taller than cm punk and theres plenty of photos showing that ...punk is around 5ft11 max...

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 Рік тому +1

      It's considered small for the sport they're playing. Not compared to non athletes

  • @jaysgamingcorner8539
    @jaysgamingcorner8539 Рік тому +3

    Jim is 100% right here. It's not height that's the issue. It's the entire presentation. Can the viewer suspend disbelief when the wrestler is onscreen? Do they look like someone that would kick your a** in a bar fight? Do they look like someone that would make you think twice before stepping to them? Braun Strowman may never get 8 stars from Meltzer but the average joe would not want to challenge him in a bar at 2am. It looks absurd when those wrestlers lose to an opponent that is 50-75 pounds lighter, not just in weight but muscularity too. See Lashley vs. Mustafa Ali; Ali just shouldn't be pinning Lashley unless he hits him with a bat or a shovel.

  • @notarealperson87
    @notarealperson87 Рік тому +2

    i dont know why these clips need to be uploaded in 4K, but i notice it and i appreciate you

    • @nathandts3401
      @nathandts3401 Рік тому +2

      Wouldn't surprise me if UA-cam pushes videos with high resolution. Can't see them putting anything under 1080p on the front page.

  • @theevilascotcompany9255
    @theevilascotcompany9255 Рік тому +16

    I think Jim likes small wrestlers who don't have to pretend to have video game superpowers to win matches.

    • @8Bitorbust
      @8Bitorbust Рік тому

      Yeah. Besides the idea there are such things as invincible Ewoks kind of comes across as silly.

    • @EliC09
      @EliC09 Рік тому +4

      Most small wrestlers nowadays don’t look believable. Most of them look like scrawny high school teenagers

    • @Mondragora99
      @Mondragora99 Рік тому +2

      Yep, he always like Rey Mysterio for example.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      to many of them look like have never been to a gym ....i sure dont want to see guys the size of tjp and kalisto jump around looking like clowns...

  • @johnnymedrano7081
    @johnnymedrano7081 Рік тому +1

    Darby Allen's shit looks good and makes sense because he's LISTENING to Sting.

  • @louiscsanko3673
    @louiscsanko3673 Рік тому +2

    Rey Mysterio looks like a middleweight compared to todays wrestlers." Size Wise".

  • @robfinlay8058
    @robfinlay8058 Рік тому +7

    Smaller wrestlers are fine when they are very skilled and the promotion isn't full of small guys. Rey Mysterio wouldn't have been nearly as big a star if the WWE had been full of 5'3 wrestlers all doing a similar style but not as well.

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine Рік тому

      You can have one giant or dwarf on the roster not a dozen.

    • @hercules1634
      @hercules1634 Рік тому +2

      He was becoming a star at WCW, thought he was going to get pushed after he pulled 2 upsets over Kevin Nash. I am not sure why he didn't, they could have ran with the giant killer gimmick.

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 Рік тому +1

      And Rey isn't a small guy using all the same moves as big guys. He uses his body as a weapon and his moves look high impact. The 619 to Big Show looks just as damaging as Hogan dropping the leg on Andre.

  • @zachg6562
    @zachg6562 Рік тому +4

    "drink/do drugs i dont know" 😂

  • @barrettokarate
    @barrettokarate Рік тому +3

    Dynamite Kid (as well as Davey "Boy" Smith) was 5'8" not 5'10". One thing I noticed is that Jim seems to actually believe some of the billed heights in wrestling.

    • @ValiantWrestling
      @ValiantWrestling Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I was about to type that, Kid qas 5'8", Davey might've been about 5'10"
      Even though Davey's listed at 5'11"

  • @pauliewalnuts829
    @pauliewalnuts829 Рік тому +17

    Darby is small but he gets the shit beat out of him every match. He usually wins by the skin of his teeth. He works like a small guy.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Рік тому +5

      Still can’t cut a promo

    • @TheMrAlgoh
      @TheMrAlgoh Рік тому +7

      The complete opposite of Orange Cassidy aka Pockets. Almost all his matches look so phoney against big guys like Ethan Page, Hobbs and Wardlow.

    • @TheMrAlgoh
      @TheMrAlgoh Рік тому +2

      @@pleaseshutup7053 it's part of his gimmick, to act all emo and angsty.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Рік тому +3

      @@TheMrAlgoh terrible excuse ever heard of raven?

    • @BB-ed4om
      @BB-ed4om Рік тому

      @@pleaseshutup7053 raven did promos?

  • @insupportofjunhado
    @insupportofjunhado Рік тому

    Light-Welter-Middle-Cruiser-Heavy, alternatively, Bantam-Feather-Middle-Heavy-Super Heavy. Not saying every promotion can realistically do this, but they should all strive for it.

  • @TheFailedmessiah
    @TheFailedmessiah Рік тому +5

    Jim loves Daniel Bryan. He’s a smaller guy. He’s loved smaller guys like candido etc.

    • @ValiantWrestling
      @ValiantWrestling Рік тому +1

      His name is Bryan Danielson, stop calling him by that stupid WWE gimmick name.

    • @totallykoolyeah
      @totallykoolyeah Рік тому +2

      "His name is Robert Paulson"
      Anybody?

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 Рік тому

      @@ValiantWrestling he is a stupid wrestler who is not believable at all. Also he is known as Daniel Bryan because most of his popularity is due to WWE

    • @TheFailedmessiah
      @TheFailedmessiah Рік тому +5

      @@ValiantWrestling lol I knew this would upset the marks. So I first spelled it daniel Brian and I was like oh I gotta change it, then I was like wait, the marks will love it. And here u are.

  • @TarHeels4430
    @TarHeels4430 Рік тому +16

    Jim is spot on here. 160 pound guys in MMA are believable in the fact that they can beat the hell out of ordinary people. 160 pound guys in AEW look like middle school kids that would get laughed at by ordinary people. MMA has hurt the trampoline comedy clowns more so than anyone else in the business

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому +1

      thats what iv been saying as well,all the tough small guys go to mma or featherweight boxing....they dont want to be pro wrestlers ...

    • @TarHeels4430
      @TarHeels4430 Рік тому

      @@jackstraw4222 No doubt. I’m not saying all of these smaller wrestling guys can’t handle themselves. But, does anyone really think Pockets, the Bucks, etc are a threat to people in general. I sure as hell don’t.

    • @TheNEOverse
      @TheNEOverse Рік тому +2

      160lb guys in MMA are weight cutters coming down from as heavy as 200lbs tbf.

  • @shawntyler863
    @shawntyler863 Рік тому +3

    Randy Orton I believe has the best overall look. Could you imagine him coming back w a full beard tho?

    • @LJWilliams15
      @LJWilliams15 Рік тому +2

      We need bald heel Randy back from 2009, who just didn’t give a fuck and was punting everyone and looked like a badass, I was legit scared of him.

  • @brendanwilliams106
    @brendanwilliams106 Рік тому +1

    Darby allin has charisma? Every time he talks he sounds like he's cruisin on lake havisoma 🤣.

  • @cowboyquebecanimations3068
    @cowboyquebecanimations3068 Рік тому +3

    Look at Marty jannetty one of the smaller guys but yet could knock you the hell out, also a former Golden gloves winner

  • @dalegreening2325
    @dalegreening2325 Рік тому +2

    Thing is wrestling is all about look. You don’t want to watch a guy who you think you could beat up!

  • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
    @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому +2

    Oh, cool .... They call wrestlers under 5'8'' = small. That means Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero were not small.

  • @eiephants
    @eiephants Рік тому +7

    Worst is the way they dress makes them look even smaller and younger. Skinny jeans and hoodies.

    • @bez_
      @bez_ Рік тому

      Also that indierific zipup vest that EVERYONE wears, think Corbin, Rollins, Theory. Every Indie wrestler who wears one of these looks terrible

    • @SamsarasArt
      @SamsarasArt Рік тому

      Yeah. It makes them look like children

    • @mramos1126
      @mramos1126 Рік тому +1

      Example: Hook

    • @BB-ed4om
      @BB-ed4om Рік тому +1

      @@mramos1126 hook is usually in sweatpants or joggers. Skinny jeans are not a thing anymore except for some mid 30s holdouts but same difference. They all dress like they’re going to class.

  • @mikepelosi9877
    @mikepelosi9877 Рік тому +1

    Eddie Guerrero was 5 feet, 8 inches. He weighed 220ish. But he looked 250-270. Cornette is right. It’s the presentation that matters.

  • @michael_stout79
    @michael_stout79 Рік тому +6

    Rey mysterio the goat

  • @rockerboyrage1609
    @rockerboyrage1609 Рік тому +2

    Weight Classes. Use them.

  • @silentpoet75
    @silentpoet75 Рік тому +4

    Exotic Adrian Street was a great small wrestler. Knew how to get the heat as a heel.

  • @ADAMdinho1
    @ADAMdinho1 Рік тому +1

    Brian Cage is built like Luger but wrestles like a cosplay trampoline cowboy.

  • @TeefrmGA
    @TeefrmGA Рік тому +4

    Uncle Corny is just saying what we all thinking. The whole package, that why I use to watch wrestling.

  • @InsignificantNick
    @InsignificantNick Рік тому +3

    I love that Jim has always respected and loves the GMOAT, Rey Mysterio!

  • @The_Cats_Pajamas
    @The_Cats_Pajamas Рік тому +2

    From what I heard Tattoo Face Man is a AAA Baseball player

  • @warzardtheboredtimelord2865
    @warzardtheboredtimelord2865 Рік тому +4

    What about Jonathan Gresham? I always found him believable.

    • @theatbfshow7049
      @theatbfshow7049 Рік тому +1

      Same here

    • @Mondragora99
      @Mondragora99 Рік тому +1

      Jim like Gresham too, he always say "short but built like a brick".

  • @JGoesBoom
    @JGoesBoom Рік тому

    I always thought dino bravo was short, but the dude was built like a tank!

  • @cryptomnesiac
    @cryptomnesiac Рік тому +5

    Jim is a little lad who loves berries and cream

    • @herbert9241
      @herbert9241 Рік тому

      I'm meeting up with my brothers and sisters tomorrow to have ice creams on the sea front in memoriam of mother, who died a couple of weeks before Christmas. All I can think of is BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM, BLACKCURRANT AND CREAM.

  • @edgarallen645
    @edgarallen645 Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised he didn't mention Marko Stunt, he's billed as 5ft 2inches and 117lbs.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      hes probably only 4ft10...this guy is a midget..and has no place on wrestling only as a jobber .....

  • @JoeR203
    @JoeR203 Рік тому +3

    I'm 6'2", 250lbs. I'd tower over the midget wrestlers. lol
    Sid Vicious had the best body for a big guy. And imagine if someone like Big Show or Omos were built like Lex Luger when he was in his prime.

    • @Rodshark75
      @Rodshark75 Рік тому +1

      The sad thing about Sid (who is my favorite wrestler), is that he never really learned how to sell well. It always looked awkward and stiff. And he hated the politics, was a big gullible, and his heart wasn't in the biz. But man, a good Sid Vicious squash match was a thing of beauty.

  • @toddwebb7521
    @toddwebb7521 Рік тому +1

    Well thinking of boxers the one I'd least want to face is actually one of the shorter heavyweights, no one in their right mind would want to mess with prime Mike Tyson

  • @JMFSpike
    @JMFSpike Рік тому +1

    I think that the look of a guy does matter to some extent, but a great character/personality can make up for a guy not being visually impressive. You just have to make up for any shortcomings in other ways.
    I don't know why he continues to shit on Kip Sabian. The guy changed his look when he came back, and it's a *huge* improvement. Before he looked the same as hundreds of other wrestlers, now he looks very unique and different. He stands out. The box thing is stupid, but if they put the guy in a good angle and gave him a chance to shine I think he could be a big breakout star.

  • @mistahwrestling1430
    @mistahwrestling1430 Рік тому +3

    I would love to know his thoughts on Dean Malinko.

  • @HereBeRabbit
    @HereBeRabbit Рік тому +2

    What about little Spike Dudley?

    • @BrandonJXN2
      @BrandonJXN2 Рік тому +5

      Spike Dudley's size was a major part of his gimmick.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska Рік тому +2

    "She is standing on the apron and can see over the top rope" - Jim Cornette

  • @chunguz5048
    @chunguz5048 Рік тому

    this is exactly orange Cassidy, i can't believe anything his does , the fact ppl sell his punch.

  • @dannygrinder8528
    @dannygrinder8528 Рік тому

    It's essentially the suspension of disbelief that Jim's talking about. Smaller guys can go, and we all smaller guys who are complete killers. It's about smaller guys coming off as dangerous or able to compete with a guy who's 6'4.

  • @danielburger1775
    @danielburger1775 Рік тому +1

    Wrestling should bring back a Junior Heavyweight division.
    Let the big guys fight the big guys, and the small guys fight the small guys.
    Promote Junior Heavyweight as 'different to' rather than 'worse than' Heavyweight.
    Seeing Fin Balor vs a guy like Lashley is absurd, unless it's a complete squash.

  • @michaelsadowski2360
    @michaelsadowski2360 Рік тому

    Not for nothing but Ivan Putski and Pedro Morales we’re not overly tall but they were built like brick houses and has fire in the ring.

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Рік тому +2

    Jonny ‘SameFace’ has Left the Chat …. 👀

  • @andisuge1119
    @andisuge1119 Рік тому +7

    Mike Tyson is the best example of what Jim is trying to say.

    • @bigfatchubbybritboy9445
      @bigfatchubbybritboy9445 Рік тому +1

      Joe Frazier as well, who was only like 5'9"

    • @tlbradio
      @tlbradio Рік тому

      @@bigfatchubbybritboy9445 Nah, Frazier was 5'11'' - 6'0"

  • @benespinosa6725
    @benespinosa6725 Рік тому +1

    Rey Mysterio in ECW was awesome his Matches with Psicosis in 1995 was amazing We went from that To Boring Johnny Gargano he has zero personality I don't get the hype about him the IWC is weird sometimes

  • @willshad
    @willshad Рік тому

    What happened to it being 'heavyweight' wrestling? The real problem is that a lot of the guys who are obviously well under 200 pounds are mixing it up with huge guys and we are expected to just accept it. In boxing and mma there are weight divisions, and with good reason. Even the 'smaller' guys back in the day..Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Jeff Hardy, at least they could pass as being 200+ pounds, if barely. I love Rey Mysterio, but he was the one who really started the idea of the 150 pounder being in there with heavyweights.

    • @trinityj1
      @trinityj1 Рік тому

      Bret Hart was 6' and definitely a minimum of 230lbs in his heyday. He only seems small in comparison to the massive giants in the WWF, he was a big dude in pretty much any other context and would be a heavyweight in legitimate combat sports. This is part of the power of presentation and narrative, because you never hear Flair being called small and he was shorter than Bret.

  • @JAG214
    @JAG214 Рік тому +1

    Ray is a real short guy compared to the guys he said in this video

  • @TheWIPChristian
    @TheWIPChristian Рік тому +1

    I don’t think Jim has this right. Guys don’t have to look like they can kick the shit out of big guys. But they need to accept that in a match vs a big guy they are the underdog and tell an in ring story.
    Ex:
    Gargano better use his speed and not get caught by Braun or he’s in trouble. Work the match around that.
    The problem is they don’t want to use their brains to tell a story, they want to pretend like they’re on equal ground.

  • @Robby_C
    @Robby_C Рік тому +1

    The biggest problem with pro-wrestling culture and “smart” marks is that they treat pro-wrestling like it’s a math problem that has set formulas, which completely defeats the purpose and the essence of Pro-Wrestling.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Рік тому

      I think you are on to something. There is something to said about Simplicity David and Goliath story will always work. But I think it’s fair to say wwe and aew have failed delivering stories like how they use to and I believe that’s the root of why fans always complain

    • @vb2806
      @vb2806 Рік тому

      @@pleaseshutup7053 No, David vs Goliath only works in the long term when David also looks better than the audience. That's why Daniel Bryan as a champion actually lost viewers but Hogan made it a global thing.

  • @Godsmess
    @Godsmess Рік тому +1

    Polish Power Ivan Putski! He was one of my favorites

  • @dalegreening2325
    @dalegreening2325 Рік тому +1

    Dynamite kid was never 5ft10!

  • @nokintendo9132
    @nokintendo9132 Рік тому

    Jonathan Gresham is a beast.

  • @PoochMG
    @PoochMG Рік тому +1

    Idk why they ever got rid of cruiserweight titles. We need one of those now more than ever. Like Darby Allin could really take down Joe. They shouldn't be going at each other. Complete opposite weight classes.

    • @griffservo8074
      @griffservo8074 Рік тому +1

      Especially if AEW is keeping up those meaningless fight records. Why pretend to be a serious fight promotion with stats but without weight classes?

    • @PoochMG
      @PoochMG Рік тому +1

      @@griffservo8074 right? Like, I love a lot of the smaller guys. It's just when they are up against somebody with 150+ lbs on them it's really hard to suspend disbelief.

  • @indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927

    I hope Jim doesnt think Lex was 6'6! (Try 6'2 range).

  • @ASCUMBAGWh0re
    @ASCUMBAGWh0re Рік тому

    Adam cole is phenomenal shape

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 Рік тому

    Back in the day, a lot of the smaller wrestlers who got over projected size.

  • @frayhua9716
    @frayhua9716 Рік тому

    What about Rockstar Spud he should be list after he's 5ft 4.

  • @georgejackson4426
    @georgejackson4426 Рік тому

    It seems like the big men of wrestling nowadays either stink up every match they're in (Omos) or try to wrestle like they weigh 150 pounds (Luchasaurus)

  • @royce1041
    @royce1041 Рік тому

    Ricky Morton was under six feet with a bird chest

  • @Mandrahale
    @Mandrahale Рік тому +1

    So it’s not the size, it’s what you do with it.. 😂 😂

  • @alain99v6
    @alain99v6 Рік тому

    Maurice Mad Dog Vachon was not a tall guy

  • @TheTalk23
    @TheTalk23 Рік тому

    Rey Mysterio maybe be 5'6 but he is muscular. Pac is 5'8 but is a machine. It's about presentation not size. Another thing worth mentioning. If you are 5'10 you aren't short. That is the average size. Look at mjf,Darby Allen, Ricky stark, Austin theory, Ric flair, Kevin Owens and many more. So I disagree with Jim when he brings up sizes like 5'9 to 5'11. Because you are average height.

  • @herbert9241
    @herbert9241 Рік тому

    "Then there's other wrestlers who are 6'6", 280 lbs, built like Luger and they're still the shits."
    Luger, for example.

  • @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS

    What small guys these days dont understand is that Spike Dudley was small as hell and skinny but he looked like a misfit and a wild man. He was convincing as an underdog who could claw and bite his way through a match.
    Adam Cole looks the size of Spike but acts like he can go toe to toe with a Samoa Joe which is absurd.
    Even handsome smaller guys like London and Kendrick were booked strong but wrestled like they were in peril.
    Small guys like David vs Goliath should wrestle with peril in mind. Not act like they can do it all because Marvel or DC have convinced fans that everyone can achieve and everyone has to be relatable.

  • @brianbrittain84
    @brianbrittain84 Рік тому

    Darby Allin is smaller than Johnny Gargano, & Jim speaks higher of Darby in every metric.

  • @samuelsturgill6825
    @samuelsturgill6825 Рік тому

    Tazz is 5ft 9in and was ECW most badass wrestler.

  • @SonnyK248
    @SonnyK248 11 місяців тому

    Wrestling is a visual medium like movies. The best actors in the world aren't necessarily the ones at the top making the most money. Gary Oldman is one of the best actors of all time but he didn't get to play Batman. In fact he seldom plays leading men in movies. Whereas Hemsworth, Pratt, Rock etc are always front and center for the biggest movies of the year because they have a leading man look and leading man size. Wrestling really needs to go back to this. Guys who look like they could work in Wallmart in the main event is what's destroying wrestling. Being able to work is an important factor but just because you can work doesn't mean you cant get in main event shape and make your stuff more believable.

  • @followerofchrist1994
    @followerofchrist1994 Рік тому

    Eddie guerrero was 5'8 but very believable against brock lesnar

  • @mattycakezzz
    @mattycakezzz Рік тому

    I think Corny is forgetting about Rey....

  • @wildnight8776
    @wildnight8776 Рік тому

    I think the problem is that the majority of AEW wrestlers fall on the shorter frat boy looking side. Look at Mike Pappas next to Jungle Boy, Cassidy or Adam Cole. It's about looking believable.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      all them look like trash,the most boring ordinary looking ,esp that jobber jungle boy ...none of them look like they ever been to a gym....

  • @animegamesmoviesandotherst3037

    I do not hate small guys. Look at guys like Shawn, Rey hell even Bret they made it look real. I just hate any wrestler that turns the ring into a circus act Omega, the Young Clucks, and the like. If we still had the territories, they all be kicked out by now.
    Also like Jim said all the new wrestlers look like kids,

  • @TheJuise26
    @TheJuise26 Рік тому

    Is Garganos appearance really so bad tho? I mean I get it he’s small but he’s a talented wrestler, at least he’s not Pockets or Jungle Boy

  • @blakemaxfield4267
    @blakemaxfield4267 Рік тому

    Bryan Danielson

  • @jeepernj99
    @jeepernj99 Рік тому +1

    What is the actual height of Danielson? He seems so tiny.

    • @theatbfshow7049
      @theatbfshow7049 Рік тому +1

      Brian Danielson is actually 5'10

    • @chrischar9428
      @chrischar9428 Рік тому +1

      5'9 tops

    • @jeepernj99
      @jeepernj99 Рік тому +1

      No way 5’10” he’s barely above the top rope.

    • @feetfungus2747
      @feetfungus2747 Рік тому

      @@theatbfshow7049 he's 5'7

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      hes no taller than Renee paquette...neither had any height on the other...

  • @NinjaskKing
    @NinjaskKing Рік тому

    Not every wrestler has to look the same as in a 6 foot+ bodybuilder

    • @TheNEOverse
      @TheNEOverse Рік тому

      No, but they should strive to have some sort of appeal and look about them that makes them dangerous.
      Don't have to be a 6 foot bodybuilder for that.

  • @insignificantaftermathPROJECTS

    Gargano seems like a decent guy but my goodness, I dont care that he was scripted to wrestle clinics in a small NXT arena to die hards, on Raw he seems so goofy and sounds like a guy id see in the retro gaming night at the local cafe or the guy who gives me my ice skates at the rink.

  • @kRazyyyyyyy
    @kRazyyyyyyy Рік тому

    there are smaller guys and there are kids like hook, allin, cassidy and adam cole...
    even juventud was more believable than those guys. there was a time when we had cruiserweights, but now they are all the same in the eyes of the bookers and that makes it ridiculous.
    another problem is, back in the day smaller guys could actually wrestlie, like malenko, but this isn't the case either nowadays.

  • @stevep4574
    @stevep4574 Рік тому +2

    Bring back the midgets!

  • @geden1729
    @geden1729 7 місяців тому

    Guess he isn’t a fan of Gator X

  • @jayturbo3844
    @jayturbo3844 Рік тому +1

    Look up some midget matches from Mid-South and I’m not exaggerating in the least when I say those dudes look like they could take on a lot of modern wrestlers in a shoot or at the very least have much better physiques

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 Рік тому

      most of the old school guys would beat these current stars down and out wrestle them...guys like zayn and owens wouldn't stand a chance....

  • @pendafen7405
    @pendafen7405 Рік тому

    Two words: Jimmy. Jacobs.

  • @GregHuffman1987
    @GregHuffman1987 Рік тому

    Little lord fauntelroy