Great video. Im a 67 year old newbie who just ordered his first bow and deciding which draw weight to choose was my thorniest decision. After lots of research, including your excellent opinions, I decided to suppress the machismo factor and go with a 30 lb. draw weight. I would have gone with a 25; however, the Obert Black Hunter hybrid longbow I selected was only available in a 30 lb. draw weight. I don’t think that will be a problem for me, as I’m 6’2 and I’m in reasonably good shape. Bottom line is I want to practice as much as possible and master the correct techniques, without developing bad habits from being over-bowed. When ready I can just buy heavier risers.
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Shooting a light draw weight bow is like shooting a .22 LR rifle, in that it can be an excellent training device for beginners, as well as those who might need to refine their technique. To remind you of the fundamentals, or discover a flinch for example.
So helpful. This is a sport/art that is difficult to understand all the dynamics for what equipment/tools are best. After a year I am just now appreciating how my experience is informing my choices...
I've heard that a light bow is more sensitive for a bad release compared to a heavier one. If you have a habit of twisting the string, not anchoring close to you face, not releasing straight back, etc it will be more visible on a lighter bow as the arrow has more time to be affected by the bad habits. It sounds reasonable but I am not sure that is true
Fangasm! And also wow you pronounced my name correctly, that's a first. I'm really satisfied with the 10 minute answer! Absolutely love your videos thanks so much for responding.
initially I wanted to increase draw weight.......so I bought a 45, 50 and 55 pound recurves. Months later I realized that I want to consistently hit the target and that is all about Form........I'm loving my 30 and 35 pound bows and try to shoot daily. Thanks for the lessons, I am learning. : )
Even a person who goes to the gym often and can lift heavy weights might still want to start off with a lower draw weight to build up strength in the fingers. Lifting weights does improve finger strength but not so much that you would find it really easy to shoot a 45 lb bow for a few hours and not have aching fingers the next day if you aren't used to it
Ragnar Bostock I don't think fingers strength should be trained though. Unless you're one of those badasses who choose to shoot #60 without finger tabs.
I dont think its about fingers. You fingers can hold the wieght of the 45 pound bow for those few seconds no problem. Maybe you cant shoot constantly for hours, but hobby shooter rarely does that anyway. It's more about back muscles which are pretty hard to train in gym. They are usually not in focus because they dont really have big volume, mostly defined by genetics. Also strenght doesn't mean proper controll of the muscle. Most people can do 5 push ups. But if you have to make every pushup 20 second long with constant slow movement while balancing a glass of water on your back is a pretty different story.
Why are back muscles hard to train at the gym? I have actually come up with drawing specific exercises for each arm using just an exercise band and a Hook on an Stud in my Basement (Other back muscle exercises are no problem with easy home equipment as well). At a gym, my options would be more plentiful.
They aren't, he either doesn't know what he's talking about or is rather trying to convey that the best exersise you can do for your back muscles in regard to archery is to just do draw exercises with your bow or an exercise band.
Jeff Kavanagh also made a video a few years back that encouraged practice using lower draw weights. Basically, light draw weights are great for practicing a smooth release because they really force you to relax those fingers and any faults you may have are easily amplified.
I weigh 124 pounds and have no physical strength at all, whenever i try to shoot something heavier than 28 pounds i start to visibly shake. Anyway, my goal is to achieve consistency even when shooting for hours, so i picked up a 22 pounds barebow and i'm perfectly fine with it.
The difference is your anchor point because with the low poundage bow you don't know quite where you are drawing to and you are actually wary of overdrawing! Also the reaction of the bow itself! With the high poundage bow, the limbs snap back instantly, but with the low power bow, the limbs wobble back and fourth to the point where even the string looks loose! Check out your video and see what you think?
I tested a Crosman Sentinel on 1/4" plywood at about 20 feet. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that. I have a 30# Samick Sage that I like very much.
I think it may have an effect on the release, in relation to compound, coach prefers less let off on compounds. This is because he believes the higher weight is more forgiving as he believes it makes the bow less susceptible to inconsistencies resulting in better accuracy.
A heavier bow will be more forgiving of a poor release naturally since it's not the speed at which it want's to come off your fingers but the resistance that is pulling hard to come off your fingers. Think about holding an empty cup with three fingers in it and trying to get it to drop to the floor by opening your fingers versus doing the same thing with a gallon of water. The gallon of water just wan'ts to drop straight down no matter what whereas the lighter cup is more likely to go left or right when releasing which in archery can cause more left/right miss issues since your release has to be more delicate and fine tuned. I noticed a large difference in the way the string behaved when you shot each bow after the release. The lighter bow string wobbled since it's not as stout where as the 45# bow nearly stopped dead after the arrow was off the string because it's very stout with a much higher resistance than the lighter bow. Also, heavier limbs give the advantage in that they are much harder to torque and therefore more forgiving and less critical of your release. You also get a bunch of other benefits such as flatter trajectory and it's just all around more forgiving. I guess it's all subjective but I would not consider a 45# draw weight a heavier draw weight, I personally reserve that for anything 60# and greater. There's no reason why someone can't build there body up to the point where they can shoot a 60# bow (or greater) all day with little to no fatigue.
For me the only advantage of using a higher draw weight bow when punching paper is the arrow has a less parabolic flight so you don't have to allow for as much drop
Paintball_airsoft_youtube yeah for compound moving weight up and down is easy as a twist of a knob. For a beginners recurve (which still costs around $100 if you don’t cheap out, you need to buy a whole new bow every time you wanna move up in draw weight.
One reason why some heavier bow users dislike low draw weight bows might have to with poor alignment making it more difficult to release the arrow? With correct form, where the elbow is well back and weight is held on the stronger back muscles rather than those of shoulder and arm, a clean release should be possible no matter what the draw weight is?
the biggest difference is range. I have heard you want the lightest bow to get your arrow to the target. with a heavier bow you can tyre quicker. that can mess up your grouping.
For me it's totally fine for my students to use light drawweights even it does not suitable for the user. Because it depends on your preferences and what you gonna use for it. As long as you don't need to be know it all guy, just go out and do archery because me myself love using low poundage and still fine to me. Why using low? My arm is injured and i still need to teach people archery..what i mean is.. What good even tho you have higher poundage but did not have the strength to pull it. If you can it's fine...its your bow anyway Just have fun lol Again for some info.. -NEVER DRY FIRE YOUR BOW ASSIFU ARCHERY
It is about technique, but I think the point of the original question was that it's more difficult to develop the correct technique with very light weight bows (sub 20-25lbs). If the bow is so light that it's easy to just use your arms and shoulders, it's difficult to remember to use your back tension. The lighter draw also means you have to force yourself to remember correct follow-through/form. Of course all these can be learnt with time and practice, just takes longer I believe.
With my 20 pound PSE Razorback, sometimes my arrows bounce off my Stinger target. Doesn't happen with 25 pounds or higher pull bows. Other than that diff, I feel like a giant pulling, holding and aiming my 20 pounder. A kick, for sure.
Is it common to not take time to aim with a recurve? When you draw your 45lb you release before event reaching your anchor points. With the 25lb you take a second on the first, which is what I would expect, then after a few shots it goes back to releasing before you get back to your original anchor points.
It depends on whether you use a point of aim method or shoot instinctively. As an instinctive shooter, it's normal to release once you touch your anchor point, as the body and brain have developed the muscle memory and mental adjustment to recognise the correct sight picture without having to spend a second or two to aim. Shooting with a recurve rewards a smooth shot process, while "hanging" onto the shot for more than 2 seconds will induce muscle contraction and fatigue.
@@kinzokushirogane1594 There is a huge difference. It shows how he is using his back. It is often called follow through and his is not consistent with the low powered bow.
I can only speak for myself but the higher my draw weight went, the cleaner my release got. Currently shooting a gorgeous hill style flatbow (not an original but made by a local aficionado) with a rather small arrow shelf that might do about 68# on my draw and I've never had a cleaner release or better and more true arrow flight. I'm quite aware that no one "needs" that draw weight to hit but I'm really enjoying it and can easily go through a 3d Parcour twice without feeling too exhausted. When shooting I just give the bow a little extra push and let it draw the string off my fingers, works beautifully. I'm only cursing when I hit wood and then spend the next five minutes carving the arrow out again... 🤣 🤣 🤣 Happy shooting everyone!
there was a drastic audible difference between the two bows. if I were to hear anything like I heard with the 25lbs bow, I would instantly assume I didn't achieve a clean release. judging by your technique however, it's quite possible that this twangy sound is unavoidable in lower draw weights. in the end however you should always use a draw weight that's comfortable and for beginners, this is usually between the 20 - 30 lbs range work your way up to the weight and always warm up, or risk injury. it's as simple as that. if you are set on buying a powerful bow however, you can usually find a perfect condition second hand one being sold due to back injury.
There was also a visible difference in the strings when released. The 20lb bowstring had a bounce when it shot the arrow. However, the 45 was stiff which means it did shoot faster and farther because that string naturally had more tension than the 20lb
NUsensei, How do you think about your bow grip so you can hold arrows in left hand while shooting and not affect your aim by giving angled pressure while holding the arrow against handle ?
I think whether you are a novice or an advanced user for basic aims and a good the lighter weights are used as a training device I pretty much think the higher you go the better skill set you have.. If you have a muscle memory mind set because you started at 40lbs or higher ofcourse you are going to feel a difference in distance and shot power..
I am a little sad because I can't seem to got much past 80 pounds. I just started shooting at 90 and its a bit to heavy for me. I can only shoot it about 25 to 30 shots, and have to drop back down to the 80 pound bow.
You're doing well. I can't even remember when I was 6 hours old. Just think of what you'll be able to do when you're old enough to start growing a brain !
I shoot a 25lb bow in my garden.. If I shot a 35 or over, then when I miss my arrows are broken or gone missing.. I can shoot 25lbs and find them.. People forget that point and go off and buy a 40lbs bow and destroy arrows ad loose them.. A 25lbs bow will easily shoot 50m.. Far longer than anybody's gardens..
Yeah, I just bought a 25lb bow. It took everything I have to buy a bow that isn't legal to hunt with, but it brings the speeds and such down far enough that I feel comfortable shooting in my yard (garden) whereby my 40-50lb bows, or my 70lb compound are major no-no for that, one stray arrow and the neighbors dog, kid or barbecue is toast, it's wildly different, but not it a bad way, it astonished me just how much bad form a heavier bow was hiding in my release, but that just means next hunting trip I'll be even better prepared!
There's nothing stopping you from taking a massive leap... I've done it.. I went from a 20# club bow to my own 28# which I turned up over a couple of months to 32#... I then jumped to my current limbs 46# which are turned up to as near as makes no difference 50#... Did my arms fall off, no! Did the string chop off my fingers under the weight of 50#, no.. Although my finger tab didn't really have adequate protection for the draw weight so the odd soreness the following day. ( now fixed this issue with more layers) Have I risked an injury, possibly a greater chance of it happening, yes... You have to know when to stop and what is good and bad for your own body. I did all of this within my first year... I'm a short 5'6" guy with an amo draw which grew from 25" to 28" over the year of shooting as I worked out my correct alignment and draw technique. I'll probably continue around the 50# mark as I work on my long distance shooting and groups... Could I pick up a 70# and shoot it... Definitely... And it's definitely not about measuring man meat as whenever I've been asked by people that have shot for a good few years what my draw weight is I've conservatively said 40# as that's what people think you are able to and should be drawing!... I saved myself the hassle and shocks of actually telling them I'm shooting a 50# recurve and it's only been 11months Your body quickly adapts to the stresses you put it under with regards to weight whether it's carrying shopping bags, a ruck sack or weights at the gym I can't now pick up a light draw weight bow as I can't associate the feeling I have for the shot for my draw weight with the lighter poundage bow Think of it in terms of running... You don't tell people... "don't ever run as fast as you can straight away ... Start off jogging and build up a few mph your max speed mate!!!!"
Your grouping with the thrown arrows has me dying 😂😂
10/10 would not challenge you to darts
You must be really good at darts.
Bring a bow at a dart game that's seems.....fair
@@dante3546 he was talking about him throwing the arrows dumdum
I love how unbiased your videos are.
Great video. Im a 67 year old newbie who just ordered his first bow and deciding which draw weight to choose was my thorniest decision. After lots of research, including your excellent opinions, I decided to suppress the machismo factor and go with a 30 lb. draw weight. I would have gone with a 25; however, the Obert Black Hunter hybrid longbow I selected was only available in a 30 lb. draw weight. I don’t think that will be a problem for me, as I’m 6’2 and I’m in reasonably good shape. Bottom line is I want to practice as much as possible and master the correct techniques, without developing bad habits from being over-bowed. When ready I can just buy heavier risers.
Shooting a light draw weight bow is like shooting a .22 LR rifle, in that it can be an excellent training device for beginners, as well as those who might need to refine their technique. To remind you of the fundamentals, or discover a flinch for example.
Well a 9mm might be better for training recoil or .45 acp
So helpful. This is a sport/art that is difficult to understand all the dynamics for what equipment/tools are best. After a year I am just now appreciating how my experience is informing my choices...
I've heard that a light bow is more sensitive for a bad release compared to a heavier one. If you have a habit of twisting the string, not anchoring close to you face, not releasing straight back, etc it will be more visible on a lighter bow as the arrow has more time to be affected by the bad habits. It sounds reasonable but I am not sure that is true
Fangasm! And also wow you pronounced my name correctly, that's a first. I'm really satisfied with the 10 minute answer! Absolutely love your videos thanks so much for responding.
initially I wanted to increase draw weight.......so I bought a 45, 50 and 55 pound recurves.
Months later I realized that I want to consistently hit the target and that is all about Form........I'm loving my 30 and 35 pound bows and try to shoot daily. Thanks for the lessons, I am learning. : )
The string movement on the 25lb bow surprised me.
that tight shot group with throwing the arrows😂
The best explanation on this issue that I have heard. Good work.
Even a person who goes to the gym often and can lift heavy weights might still want to start off with a lower draw weight to build up strength in the fingers. Lifting weights does improve finger strength but not so much that you would find it really easy to shoot a 45 lb bow for a few hours and not have aching fingers the next day if you aren't used to it
Ragnar Bostock I don't think fingers strength should be trained though. Unless you're one of those badasses who choose to shoot #60 without finger tabs.
I dont think its about fingers. You fingers can hold the wieght of the 45 pound bow for those few seconds no problem. Maybe you cant shoot constantly for hours, but hobby shooter rarely does that anyway.
It's more about back muscles which are pretty hard to train in gym. They are usually not in focus because they dont really have big volume, mostly defined by genetics. Also strenght doesn't mean proper controll of the muscle. Most people can do 5 push ups. But if you have to make every pushup 20 second long with constant slow movement while balancing a glass of water on your back is a pretty different story.
Why are back muscles hard to train at the gym? I have actually come up with drawing specific exercises for each arm using just an exercise band and a Hook on an Stud in my Basement (Other back muscle exercises are no problem with easy home equipment as well). At a gym, my options would be more plentiful.
They aren't, he either doesn't know what he's talking about or is rather trying to convey that the best exersise you can do for your back muscles in regard to archery is to just do draw exercises with your bow or an exercise band.
Unless they have been doing weighted finger ups I guess
Jeff Kavanagh also made a video a few years back that encouraged practice using lower draw weights. Basically, light draw weights are great for practicing a smooth release because they really force you to relax those fingers and any faults you may have are easily amplified.
2:20 that one missed and hit that train
I weigh 124 pounds and have no physical strength at all, whenever i try to shoot something heavier than 28 pounds i start to visibly shake. Anyway, my goal is to achieve consistency even when shooting for hours, so i picked up a 22 pounds barebow and i'm perfectly fine with it.
Thanks for making these videos they are very helpful
very fun moment at 2:13 man that was lucky....
18lb Cartel ILF limbs for indoor form learning!!! I do use use 28lb and 38lb outdoors.
The difference is your anchor point because with the low poundage bow you don't know quite where you are drawing to and you are actually wary of overdrawing!
Also the reaction of the bow itself! With the high poundage bow, the limbs snap back instantly, but with the low power bow, the limbs wobble back and fourth to the point where even the string looks loose!
Check out your video and see what you think?
I totally understand your points, they make sense to me. thank you
I tested a Crosman Sentinel on 1/4" plywood at about 20 feet. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that. I have a 30# Samick Sage that I like very much.
Good knowledge transfer ,your way of explaining is great. Thanks sensei
love how you prove your point with funny arrow throwing lol
I think it may have an effect on the release, in relation to compound, coach prefers less let off on compounds. This is because he believes the higher weight is more forgiving as he believes it makes the bow less susceptible to inconsistencies resulting in better accuracy.
A heavier bow will be more forgiving of a poor release naturally since it's not the speed at which it want's to come off your fingers but the resistance that is pulling hard to come off your fingers.
Think about holding an empty cup with three fingers in it and trying to get it to drop to the floor by opening your fingers versus doing the same thing with a gallon of water. The gallon of water just wan'ts to drop straight down no matter what whereas the lighter cup is more likely to go left or right when releasing which in archery can cause more left/right miss issues since your release has to be more delicate and fine tuned.
I noticed a large difference in the way the string behaved when you shot each bow after the release. The lighter bow string wobbled since it's not as stout where as the 45# bow nearly stopped dead after the arrow was off the string because it's very stout with a much higher resistance than the lighter bow.
Also, heavier limbs give the advantage in that they are much harder to torque and therefore more forgiving and less critical of your release. You also get a bunch of other benefits such as flatter trajectory and it's just all around more forgiving.
I guess it's all subjective but I would not consider a 45# draw weight a heavier draw weight, I personally reserve that for anything 60# and greater.
There's no reason why someone can't build there body up to the point where they can shoot a 60# bow (or greater) all day with little to no fatigue.
But a lower draw weight bow will make your release cleaner in the long run, since you have to pay more attention to it.
For me the only advantage of using a higher draw weight bow when punching paper is the arrow has a less parabolic flight so you don't have to allow for as much drop
I think your arrows were a little stiff when you were throwing them :-). Keep up the good work and thank you. Alan
Improperly spined for sure! 🤣
Did you have to register your hands as deadly weapons?
As a starter archer I define try agree with you although the heaviest bow I can shoot is a 28lbs
I for me I raised the weight 5 pounds week until I got 45 pounds good luck
+Ethan Mcatamney I might do that but by 2 lbs each week
Paintball_airsoft_youtube yeah for compound moving weight up and down is easy as a twist of a knob. For a beginners recurve (which still costs around $100 if you don’t cheap out, you need to buy a whole new bow every time you wanna move up in draw weight.
One reason why some heavier bow users dislike low draw weight bows might have to with poor alignment making it more difficult to release the arrow? With correct form, where the elbow is well back and weight is held on the stronger back muscles rather than those of shoulder and arm, a clean release should be possible no matter what the draw weight is?
What do you think about the Oneida kestrel?
the biggest difference is range. I have heard you want the lightest bow to get your arrow to the target. with a heavier bow you can tyre quicker. that can mess up your grouping.
Here here !!!! I can get to 70m NO PROBLEM with #24lbs limbs, 260grain arrows, Sight almost fully forward extended but not quite all-out.
For me it's totally fine for my students to use light drawweights even it does not suitable for the user.
Because it depends on your preferences and what you gonna use for it. As long as you don't need to be know it all guy, just go out and do archery because me myself love using low poundage and still fine to me.
Why using low? My arm is injured and i still need to teach people archery..what i mean is..
What good even tho you have higher poundage but did not have the strength to pull it. If you can it's fine...its your bow anyway
Just have fun lol
Again for some info..
-NEVER DRY FIRE YOUR BOW
ASSIFU ARCHERY
It is about technique, but I think the point of the original question was that it's more difficult to develop the correct technique with very light weight bows (sub 20-25lbs).
If the bow is so light that it's easy to just use your arms and shoulders, it's difficult to remember to use your back tension. The lighter draw also means you have to force yourself to remember correct follow-through/form.
Of course all these can be learnt with time and practice, just takes longer I believe.
With my 20 pound PSE Razorback, sometimes my arrows bounce off my Stinger target. Doesn't happen with 25 pounds or higher pull bows. Other than that diff, I feel like a giant pulling, holding and aiming my 20 pounder. A kick, for sure.
love ur vids bro keep it up
Huh, they sounded different. The heavier bow sounded tighter but the low bow sounded twangy like it was looser. :/
The sound is a sign of how much energy is lost while shooting (not all the energy is sent into the arrow, which causes for example vibrations)
i recently bought a 30 lb longbow one piece , kanokie, wood , shoots great!i shoot my compound 60 lb, and my longbow at one sitting , good workout
Some people have NUSensei, but I do.
Is it common to not take time to aim with a recurve? When you draw your 45lb you release before event reaching your anchor points. With the 25lb you take a second on the first, which is what I would expect, then after a few shots it goes back to releasing before you get back to your original anchor points.
It depends on whether you use a point of aim method or shoot instinctively. As an instinctive shooter, it's normal to release once you touch your anchor point, as the body and brain have developed the muscle memory and mental adjustment to recognise the correct sight picture without having to spend a second or two to aim. Shooting with a recurve rewards a smooth shot process, while "hanging" onto the shot for more than 2 seconds will induce muscle contraction and fatigue.
I am thinking inbetween.....i am thinking about buying a bow with 33 pounds draw weight.Not super light or super heavy.
You needed to shoot arrows especially spined for the 25 lb bow for a fair comparison.
The place where you hand came to rest after the shot was consistent with the 45 and changed a lot with the 25.
Why?
There's almost no difference at all. What are you on about?
@@kinzokushirogane1594 There is a huge difference. It shows how he is using his back. It is often called follow through and his is not consistent with the low powered bow.
the see for yourself part is inconclusive, you need a high fps camera and slow motion for us to 'see for yourselfes'
I can only speak for myself but the higher my draw weight went, the cleaner my release got.
Currently shooting a gorgeous hill style flatbow (not an original but made by a local aficionado) with a rather small arrow shelf that might do about 68# on my draw and I've never had a cleaner release or better and more true arrow flight.
I'm quite aware that no one "needs" that draw weight to hit but I'm really enjoying it and can easily go through a 3d Parcour twice without feeling too exhausted.
When shooting I just give the bow a little extra push and let it draw the string off my fingers, works beautifully.
I'm only cursing when I hit wood and then spend the next five minutes carving the arrow out again... 🤣 🤣 🤣
Happy shooting everyone!
double camry, asian flex
there was a drastic audible difference between the two bows. if I were to hear anything like I heard with the 25lbs bow, I would instantly assume I didn't achieve a clean release.
judging by your technique however, it's quite possible that this twangy sound is unavoidable in lower draw weights.
in the end however you should always use a draw weight that's comfortable and for beginners, this is usually between the 20 - 30 lbs range
work your way up to the weight and always warm up, or risk injury. it's as simple as that.
if you are set on buying a powerful bow however, you can usually find a perfect condition second hand one being sold due to back injury.
There was also a visible difference in the strings when released.
The 20lb bowstring had a bounce when it shot the arrow.
However, the 45 was stiff which means it did shoot faster and farther because that string naturally had more tension than the 20lb
Couldn't agree more. It's all ybout your technique.
ty nu
NUsensei, How do you think about your bow grip so you can hold arrows in left
hand while shooting and not affect your aim by giving angled pressure while
holding the arrow against handle ?
Good video!
That Samik Sage just looks beautiful.
that's what i said
I think whether you are a novice or an advanced user for basic aims and a good the lighter weights are used as a training device I pretty much think the higher you go the better skill set you have..
If you have a muscle memory mind set because you started at 40lbs or higher ofcourse you are going to feel a difference in distance and shot power..
What are good 25 lb bows
#25lbs would be WNS Axiom alpha LIMBS on a light GALAXY CRESCENT Magnesium Riser
Bear Titan and other Fiberglass kids bows
Samick Red Stag
Samick sage
You can also get the Mandarin Duck Black Hunter/ Galaxy Ember in 30lbs
sensei, can't help myself, great explanation. is this a toyota commercial, lol ? sorry
1:00 Not the cleanest release ever I bet....
LMAO, nice experiment my friend
I am a little sad because I can't seem to got much past 80 pounds. I just started shooting at 90 and its a bit to heavy for me. I can only shoot it about 25 to 30 shots, and have to drop back down to the 80 pound bow.
I'm 6 hours old, and I shoot 120 pound war bows.
How do you shoot a bow most likely higher then your body?
NotThe RealDante thats a good question
You're doing well. I can't even remember when I was 6 hours old. Just think of what you'll be able to do when you're old enough to start growing a brain !
I drove M1 Abrams tank when I was 6 hours old.
I love compound bows because you can shoot a high draw weight without struggling to pull it back
it sound like predator proton launcher..:D :D :D
I shoot a 25lb bow in my garden.. If I shot a 35 or over, then when I miss my arrows are broken or gone missing.. I can shoot 25lbs and find them.. People forget that point and go off and buy a 40lbs bow and destroy arrows ad loose them.. A 25lbs bow will easily shoot 50m.. Far longer than anybody's gardens..
Yeah, I just bought a 25lb bow. It took everything I have to buy a bow that isn't legal to hunt with, but it brings the speeds and such down far enough that I feel comfortable shooting in my yard (garden) whereby my 40-50lb bows, or my 70lb compound are major no-no for that, one stray arrow and the neighbors dog, kid or barbecue is toast, it's wildly different, but not it a bad way, it astonished me just how much bad form a heavier bow was hiding in my release, but that just means next hunting trip I'll be even better prepared!
ok..
heavy draw weight= years of gradually increasing poundage whilst practicing proper technique (biomechanically repeatable shot sequence)
There's nothing stopping you from taking a massive leap... I've done it.. I went from a 20# club bow to my own 28# which I turned up over a couple of months to 32#... I then jumped to my current limbs 46# which are turned up to as near as makes no difference 50#... Did my arms fall off, no! Did the string chop off my fingers under the weight of 50#, no.. Although my finger tab didn't really have adequate protection for the draw weight so the odd soreness the following day. ( now fixed this issue with more layers) Have I risked an injury, possibly a greater chance of it happening, yes... You have to know when to stop and what is good and bad for your own body.
I did all of this within my first year... I'm a short 5'6" guy with an amo draw which grew from 25" to 28" over the year of shooting as I worked out my correct alignment and draw technique.
I'll probably continue around the 50# mark as I work on my long distance shooting and groups... Could I pick up a 70# and shoot it... Definitely... And it's definitely not about measuring man meat as whenever I've been asked by people that have shot for a good few years what my draw weight is I've conservatively said 40# as that's what people think you are able to and should be drawing!... I saved myself the hassle and shocks of actually telling them I'm shooting a 50# recurve and it's only been 11months
Your body quickly adapts to the stresses you put it under with regards to weight whether it's carrying shopping bags, a ruck sack or weights at the gym
I can't now pick up a light draw weight bow as I can't associate the feeling I have for the shot for my draw weight with the lighter poundage bow
Think of it in terms of running... You don't tell people... "don't ever run as fast as you can straight away ... Start off jogging and build up a few mph your max speed mate!!!!"
I shoot a 60 lb recurve and have a draw length of 29 inches and I'm 14
Slingshot Mexican I shoot a 110 pound recurve and I am thirteen.
Same
Sebastian Jones that's bullshit kid
Fresh Lad fucking bullshit
I bet you suck too
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