Advocate Mshololo is brilliant and knows exactly where her cross questioning needs to go. That is,to get Zandi to make some CONFESSION implicating her sister Kelly,so that Kelly can be ordered to appear before court and testify. But, I'm not at all impressed by the Judge's unnecessary intervention. Whatever he observes should be for his OWN record to help him arrive at a clear JUDGEMENT at the end of the trial. He should allow Advocate Mshololo to do her job that she's there for.
I’m happy to see that someone else feels the same way about the judge’s comments. His comments may be viewed as giving the impression that he has already decided the case, which may cast doubt on his objectivity and his willingness to reserve judgment until the end of the proceedings! The dialogues he’s been having with Zandile seem to suggest that he agrees with what she’s saying, which is not wrong that he does by the way, but such remarks can form part of his ratio decidendi! He is within his rights as a judge to make incidental statements, but to have a dialogue with a witness where you clearly ridicule a lawyer I find rather disturbing. They have a dialogue like they’re having tea, and there’s no decorum observed where a witness just speaks even when not spoken to. There are instances where I feel he could have also addressed this key witness where she didn’t answer the question asked but rather chose to be sarcastic. Perhaps the lawyers also missed that opportunity also, because I feel this witness is a key witness because she witnessed the murder of the victim. She was asked whether she agrees that the police haven’t arrested the right people and she started talking about how people lose and gain weight over the years, going as further as answering by asking a question to the lawyer whether he can see anyone with dreadlocks amongst the accused, instead of simply stating that she agrees or not! The judge and the lawyer at that moment, like in many such moments, just let her off the hook without answering one way or the other! And I’m in no way picking sides here, but merely giving my opinion that the lawyers missed the opportunity to really test the witness’ version of events a little more, unless she can still be called back for more questioning at a later stage! Be that as it may, it’s been an interesting case, where it appears the real perpetrator(s) may not necessarily be the accused!
@@Mntungwa77 You couldn't have said it ANY BETTER my brother!!! The judge seem to be forgetting his IMPARTIAL ROLE!!! He gives us the impression that his mind is already made up in terms of his JUDGEMENT, which is really CONCERNING. This witness, should be thoroughly cross examined as she was on the scene and KNOWS EVERYTHING. She is NOT TELLING this court the TRUTH. JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED!!! My Heart goes out to the MEYIWA family.
This adv is very smart,her smile would make you think she is to lenient to you as a witness,,but she knows where to spear her Questions,,,big ups to Adv Z.Mshololo
@@bonganikhethelo1551 Yep brother but yesterday I saw her smile vanish as she was visibly and justifiably UPSET ,when the judge butted in to help a witness during cross examination. This judge keeps butting in to save the witnesses for whatever reason. He did that on more than one occasion to help Zandi Khumalo, who actually is a SUSPECT in this case. But, I could watch Advocate Mshololo the whole day with pride and pleasure. She carries herself like a true LADY and PROFESSIONAL. She's undoubtedly a TOP ADVOCATE!!!
@@darrylgovindasamy8255 I noticed that too about the judge, and it rlly annoyed me honestly and I personally felt ukuthi, he's trying to help the so called Zandi to escape the questioning hummer from adv Mshololo
And also, why is the court giving Zandi a privilege to testify at times in Zulu and then in English when it SUITS her. She understands and speaks English perfectly. Why can't she just testify in English???
Ppl think Mshololo is in court to make the Khumalo girls to be seen as perpetrators in the crime where in fact she is representing Accused 5. All his questions are trying to get the guy out.
This whole case is a waste of time. The confidence, the arrogance yalocc shows clearly ukuth there is the highest power involved, and they gave her their word ukuth akakhululeke, thina siyiduphunga nje ngokulandela le case
Yes...let him elaborate, defeated how bcs the trial is still on??? Rushing a person to hospital doesn't mean one of them didn't pull the trigger accidentally during the fight between longwe nd zandi...remember someone called the meyiwa and said ""senzo was accidentally shot"" remember that statement?
( Pllanned murder).I dont think she is the one, but she seems to know something.This case was misjudged and misprosecuted from the very first time.The writing of statenents by police is just s joke here.This seems from the first time or from the start was not taken seriously enough as the case is.How far now ?
The way I understand the case longwe twala is the one who shoot senzo (im outside why he didn't go insde cause he was called for dinner)in short he was coming to collect money for drugs and the was no money and the fight starts there
Zandie, who shoot you? Because you were shot on your foot? Who shot the bullet that shoot you on your foot? And Longwe? Is this the first two perpetraiters ? Zandie you are contradicting your self. Who shoot on the foot. Why didn't you report that you are also shot? Who shot Longwe? Because i understand that Longwe is also shot. 17:02
Even if there's any form of transaction💰in this line of witnesses,may God intervene ngezwi lakhe bakitbi,,,,,uSenzo belongs to God, and Everything on Earth belongs to the God our maker bakithi,, iqiniso lona lizophuma one day and Justice will served for Senzo's soul.
U advocate Mshololo be ka funa ukubuza ukuthi u mfazi ka Senzo ungena kanjani kulendaba ngoba ubukho ubufakazi ubutholwe e founini yakhe bokuthi.she regrets uku zwana ngwakhe no Senzo nangu u gudge ayivala le question
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Advocate Mshololo is brilliant and knows exactly where her cross questioning needs to go. That is,to get Zandi to make some CONFESSION implicating her sister Kelly,so that Kelly can be ordered to appear before court and testify. But, I'm not at all impressed by the Judge's unnecessary intervention. Whatever he observes should be for his OWN record to help him arrive at a clear JUDGEMENT at the end of the trial. He should allow Advocate Mshololo to do her job that she's there for.
I’m happy to see that someone else feels the same way about the judge’s comments. His comments may be viewed as giving the impression that he has already decided the case, which may cast doubt on his objectivity and his willingness to reserve judgment until the end of the proceedings! The dialogues he’s been having with Zandile seem to suggest that he agrees with what she’s saying, which is not wrong that he does by the way, but such remarks can form part of his ratio decidendi! He is within his rights as a judge to make incidental statements, but to have a dialogue with a witness where you clearly ridicule a lawyer I find rather disturbing. They have a dialogue like they’re having tea, and there’s no decorum observed where a witness just speaks even when not spoken to. There are instances where I feel he could have also addressed this key witness where she didn’t answer the question asked but rather chose to be sarcastic. Perhaps the lawyers also missed that opportunity also, because I feel this witness is a key witness because she witnessed the murder of the victim. She was asked whether she agrees that the police haven’t arrested the right people and she started talking about how people lose and gain weight over the years, going as further as answering by asking a question to the lawyer whether he can see anyone with dreadlocks amongst the accused, instead of simply stating that she agrees or not! The judge and the lawyer at that moment, like in many such moments, just let her off the hook without answering one way or the other! And I’m in no way picking sides here, but merely giving my opinion that the lawyers missed the opportunity to really test the witness’ version of events a little more, unless she can still be called back for more questioning at a later stage! Be that as it may, it’s been an interesting case, where it appears the real perpetrator(s) may not necessarily be the accused!
@@Mntungwa77 You couldn't have said it ANY BETTER my brother!!! The judge seem to be forgetting his IMPARTIAL ROLE!!! He gives us the impression that his mind is already made up in terms of his JUDGEMENT, which is really CONCERNING. This witness, should be thoroughly cross examined as she was on the scene and KNOWS EVERYTHING. She is NOT TELLING this court the TRUTH. JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED!!! My Heart goes out to the MEYIWA family.
This adv is very smart,her smile would make you think she is to lenient to you as a witness,,but she knows where to spear her Questions,,,big ups to Adv Z.Mshololo
@@bonganikhethelo1551 Yep brother but yesterday I saw her smile vanish as she was visibly and justifiably UPSET ,when the judge butted in to help a witness during cross examination. This judge keeps butting in to save the witnesses for whatever reason. He did that on more than one occasion to help Zandi Khumalo, who actually is a SUSPECT in this case. But, I could watch Advocate Mshololo the whole day with pride and pleasure. She carries herself like a true LADY and PROFESSIONAL. She's undoubtedly a TOP ADVOCATE!!!
@@darrylgovindasamy8255 I noticed that too about the judge, and it rlly annoyed me honestly and I personally felt ukuthi, he's trying to help the so called Zandi to escape the questioning hummer from adv Mshololo
Z Mshololo she is doing so good keep well the good work am so impressed maybe you must become a Judge ❤
Noma bangathini igazi lomuntu liyakhuluma
❤ love you advocate you're really know your story 👏👏👏
Axacley
Noma bengaphika bethini oksalayo iskhuni sbuya nomkhwezeli,Okwenza komunyumuntu kuyobuya nakuwe🤞
Iqiniso lelo.
Injalo
Using an interpreter is a sheer ABUSE of the court's TIME and processes.
As if she can't speak or understand English so maybe she should stick to that language but then lose the fake boobs, nails, wigs, all colonial stuff
I seems like the magistrate is defending Zandile Khumalo
Magistrate or judge
My lord -Judge
Your worship -magistrate
Hheyi Ntombi Khuluma amaqiniso azokukhulula amanga ayakubopha awuboni kuzosala wena Hheyi ziyabuya phakathi lapha phakathi Sisi okwazibopha kuzozikhulula nakuwe kunjalo nawe kuzozikhulula Sisi asazi lelo ibhubesi angazi awuliboni yini
I wish they could reveal her identity so that we can comment according to her body language
She didn't that before she came to testify
She didn't want that
And also, why is the court giving Zandi a privilege to testify at times in Zulu and then in English when it SUITS her. She understands and speaks English perfectly. Why can't she just testify in English???
Well in court that is allowed
Do you think SA court is the court if the suspect says what they want like hhay okwakhoke lokho
Bayabulala laba bathwala ngabantu bathathe Mshololo uyophonsa phakathi kubuhlungu lento abayenza kwaze kwashona umkhulu ubaba ka baba uSenzo 😢
Okheli no zandi,nandipha badila ngegazi labantu bancolile abafazi abaningi
Nandipha muphi?
Ngiyalesaba leli judge ngathi lidlala i mind game uyingozi to the Khumalos
Uyalibona kodwa limdonsela emgodini naye uyalivumela uzifaka kunogxaka
Ei she sang whn the judge seemed like was on her side..woooo she sang evn remembering tt he's MyLord😅😅..weee Ms Matric; hope ths isnt a snare.
Most ppl ngathi bafuna iKhumalo sisters zibhadle ejele,kanti okudingekayo Abantu /Umntu ababulele usenzo bagwetywe qha.
ngoba ibona abazi iqiniso
Ppl think Mshololo is in court to make the Khumalo girls to be seen as perpetrators in the crime where in fact she is representing Accused 5. All his questions are trying to get the guy out.
Kelly khumalo is a mastermind
Zandile Khumalo is not here for subsequent justice but for certain agenda. Nothing will come out of her
Yeah uzele ukuzolahla umkhondo
Liar liar your pants are on the fire I remember Lucky Dube song
Mshololo wasn't defeated i trust dis judge he playing mind games khumalo are in danger i bet
I'm 100% with you on this one
Exactly , I foresee trouble in KHUMALO’s house hold.
I am with you too, lets just wait and see
Bazophinda baphunyuke fut labantu....😮😮😮😮ei madoda
😂😂😂 BANTU EDUCATION VS SCAMMERS
Mshololo is pushing to this cas and she doing wonderfully work and the judge is doing balancing act.
ngisho noma kungayini eyogcina ishiwo as a judgement but the reality is owadubula uSenzo kwabangomunye wababesendlini .
Wawungekho mfethu, konke nje esikicabangayo asingenzi engathi sasikhona, asethembe ukuthi iqiniso lizovela.
Am lookin forwad for longwe to cme and testify so he teaches us his skill of pushing an armed person
Eiiiii Thandi NAMI I'm waiting to hear how Jacky China did that guys phela he must have had bullet proof of that's the case 😅
Yasaaa
Yhoooo dis one is not easy trust me....I really don't think da truth will comeout
Zandei's answers....are straight forward
I disagree, Mshololo was deafeted by the Judge here.
The judge is biased, seems like he is defending the witness. always on the witness side.
But Mshololo is over confident also
@@luckyphikela4506 That what a lawyer is supposed to be like"Over confident ", otherwise there is no point in them representing anyone in court.
Dlala Dlalaaaa Mshololo wayifundela lento iawudlali Shame umuntu uma ngonyawo olulodwa njengeNkukhu
Isihloko sakho👀
This whole case is a waste of time. The confidence, the arrogance yalocc shows clearly ukuth there is the highest power involved, and they gave her their word ukuth akakhululeke, thina siyiduphunga nje ngokulandela le case
You're right kodwa kumele sibheke and sivote ngokuhlakanipha
Zizojika izinto!!!
This case Limpopo province we will be done with them by now
Kanti why uJudge Mokgoeng Mokgoeng angabuyi and take over this matter Kanti vele,,,
@@lisamthethwa4088 chaaa ayifuni vote Lena,mina ngithi wonke amagundwane adla abantu aye'ejele and futhi kube yidhilika jele Lena vele
Bathathe mshololo
Bonkers.baba
And muthi is working there at court
Ahhhh😅😅😅😅😅
Besefuna mshololo ukuthi u zandile amshuthe ngemehlo lo ntanzi
The calls from accused no 5 And kelly shut everything 😊
So the judge is testifying as well?
Kazi iyozala nkomoni?
Yey Nkosiyam
Defeated how?
Yes...let him elaborate, defeated how bcs the trial is still on???
Rushing a person to hospital doesn't mean one of them didn't pull the trigger accidentally during the fight between longwe nd zandi...remember someone called the meyiwa and said ""senzo was accidentally shot"" remember that statement?
Hheyi asazi kodwa manje akudlalwa impiiii ihlasele ngempela
This girl already lost the case
( Pllanned murder).I dont think she is the one, but she seems to know something.This case was misjudged and misprosecuted from the very first time.The writing of statenents by police is just s joke here.This seems from the first time or from the start was not taken seriously enough as the case is.How far now ?
U ntanzi is one of the intrunder with hoodie you like it or not
Shothi lokkwantanzi kuyambhabaza lomshololo
I like this judge is 😊 seems he is a charmer like me💪. Justice must be served
Z Mshololo is emotionally matured. Zandile Khumalo o senjene😂😂
Mathithabala 😮
Heeee leli jaji bakithi boidlelwe umuthi nje too much
Mshololo was asking zandile khumalo nonsense about his boy friend Bingani ntanzi
How can Learned people be undermined by a musician😮 yooo
The way I understand the case longwe twala is the one who shoot senzo (im outside why he didn't go insde cause he was called for dinner)in short he was coming to collect money for drugs and the was no money and the fight starts there
Why they aren't using that statement coz it has the beginning and the last part of the fight
Hai abaqine nabo labameli ikakhulu lona ohlale ejuluka kebakhohlwe ukusindiswa
Zandie, who shoot you? Because you were shot on your foot? Who shot the bullet that shoot you on your foot? And Longwe? Is this the first two perpetraiters ? Zandie you are contradicting your self. Who shoot on the foot. Why didn't you report that you are also shot? Who shot Longwe? Because i understand that Longwe is also shot. 17:02
ukuba ngiyakwazi ukuvusa umufi azokhulumele ngabe ngiyamvusa ayivale lendaba
this people they must tell the country dt who killed meyiwa in the house
The jugde interfered when it start to boil
Thatha ma kumalo thatha ayeye Mshololo ayeye 🤔
I think its too late for any of them to tell the truth coz they will all go to jail so 🤷
akazikhohlwa ugirl
Bathe Cell phone records Judge😮 zange usheshe kanje let us know what you know😢waiting for judgment 😢
Mshololo was weak today
😢
Hai soka there is no suspect, suspect is you and everyone that was in the Makhuma 's house
Actually she defeated everyone
Why kubgavele kugwetywe wonke umntu owayephaya ngelaxesha coz soze avele oyena mntu wadubulayo zonke ejele qha
Zonke including Makhumalo
I’m just thinking about the pain on both the deceased’s kids 😢😢
Eish my guy don't say it,yazi some ppl are heartless shem🤞
But ke,mina ngithi,,the truth is in their heart may God judge them with His word,iqiniso libashise
Even if there's any form of transaction💰in this line of witnesses,may God intervene ngezwi lakhe bakitbi,,,,,uSenzo belongs to God, and Everything on Earth belongs to the God our maker bakithi,, iqiniso lona lizophuma one day and Justice will served for Senzo's soul.
Bophan bonke ababesendlin that all
Volume plz
This trial must end just now
Not just yet, it just got serious
Kanti zenzeni izingane zakwaKhumalo?
Ziphethe iqiniso
Matric is basic. If u don't have it halala, u end u being defensive.
Lo
Lol yabona Zandie came prepared la
Baloi did they pay u?
What do you mean? Its obvious as he is representing them
😢😢😢
😂
U advocate Mshololo be ka funa ukubuza ukuthi u mfazi ka Senzo ungena kanjani kulendaba ngoba ubukho ubufakazi ubutholwe e founini yakhe bokuthi.she regrets uku zwana ngwakhe no Senzo nangu u gudge ayivala le question
Mshololo was weak today
Intimidation nayo iyakwenza ube weak
@@Rhadi3345 she's probably getting the same SMS' and phone calls Teffo was getting 💔
Yeyi Zandile plz Dedela igazi cc ukhulume iqiniso funa uTixo angakuzwela Xolisa ukhulume inyani
😢😢😢😢😢😢