Rap Pioneer Rahiem Sets Record Straight: Kool Herc, Puerto Rican Rappers, & Distorting Rap History

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  • @mikmoss88
    @mikmoss88 2 роки тому +164

    Shout out to Lord Jamar for bringin these brothas together to spread truth, it's way too many Hip Hop "legends" out here that's lettin tha BS fester

  • @twilson2605
    @twilson2605 2 роки тому +63

    Busta Rhymes' comments are what really got to me. He was speaking as if we had no concept of rhythm and cadence before Jamaicans came along. How does a people who created Blues, Jazz, Rock n Roll and RHYTHM and Blues not possess thise two qualities? Black American pastors suddenly developed their style of speaking after Herc arrived? There aren't videos decades prior to the 70s showing black Americans doing what are essentially breakdancing moves? Busta must've had some mind blowing pum pum with how much he was sucking up to Latinos

    • @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1
      @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 2 роки тому +10

      @T Wilson We had Cadences from the Church to the Chain Gang, Busta don't know what he's talking about🤦🏿‍♂

    • @garifuna78cashtag12
      @garifuna78cashtag12 2 роки тому +3

      The dreads in Brooklyn was crazy ..couldn't come out the crib with no hip hop or the pistol's would go pop pop...

    • @SOLDIERSOFCHRISTCWO
      @SOLDIERSOFCHRISTCWO 2 роки тому

      Sucking up to Latinos or Jamaicans?

    • @keyopronin4134
      @keyopronin4134 2 роки тому

      He's a fuckin' "STEROID" freak pure & simple.

    • @malikbey5522
      @malikbey5522 2 роки тому +3

      @@garifuna78cashtag12 Not true only Flatbush are maybe crown heights but must of Brooklyn was of So call African American so no dreads stop any such thing known as Hip Hop because I'm a Brooklyn knight all my life and that's word is bond.

  • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
    @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 2 роки тому +82

    Hold all liars responsible. They should apologize publicly and get dismissed from hip-hop for pushing a lying narrative to discredit us in America. Our culture is under attac_k by our own whom has benefited greatly. Mad respect to the original brothers in this video setting the record straight.

    • @comfortmobilecarwash9561
      @comfortmobilecarwash9561 2 роки тому

      agree
      Fat Joe always lying.
      he was born in '70, he dont remember ish before '75
      hip-hop or Rap "officially" started around '72

    • @indigoearthangel888
      @indigoearthangel888 2 роки тому +1

      💯💯💯

    • @Bigk3695
      @Bigk3695 2 роки тому

      That's mainstream white media pushing that lie

    • @yolandahughes2205
      @yolandahughes2205 3 місяці тому

      YES WHEN YOU GOOGLE WHO "CREATED" RAP SOME BS POP UP
      I NEVER THOUGHT IN ALL MY YEARS WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING THIS BS
      AS AN AMERICAN ABORIGINAL AIN'T NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WHERE RAP ORIGINATED...THE TRUE ABORIGINAL'S OF AMERICA

  • @hviii7452
    @hviii7452 2 роки тому +46

    One of the best conversations regarding the history of Hip-Hip I’ve seen/heard.

    • @LSturdy
      @LSturdy 2 роки тому

      Indeed but Look up Krs one , if you hadn’t already 💪🏾

    • @Black_unity597
      @Black_unity597 2 роки тому +1

      KRS be spreading that same bull Shit heard him spit some now cipher shit multiple times!

    • @LSturdy
      @LSturdy 2 роки тому

      @@Black_unity597 That's pretty common
      how many even do that but What Bullsahit?

  • @jd-pt1xx
    @jd-pt1xx 9 місяців тому +7

    And Flash was a record boy dancing and studying DJ Smokey at his house parties on Grant Ave...

    • @samhernandez1248
      @samhernandez1248 3 місяці тому +1

      Talk bout it fam im raised on Grant ave appreciate the history lesson

  • @deeel5692
    @deeel5692 2 роки тому +32

    I already saw the whole program, I just stopped by to give the video segment a Like. "Brand Nubian!!!!" Lord Jamar stepped up!

    • @amyhughes4678
      @amyhughes4678 2 роки тому +2

      Brand Nubian were one of my favorite groups

  • @CJ-vh2hf
    @CJ-vh2hf 2 роки тому +120

    People are confusing Attendance & Contribution with “CREATION” We love all our people from the African diaspora but there’s no need to make false claims let’s keep the unity this is just another way to separate!

    • @melanatedwarrior3530
      @melanatedwarrior3530 2 роки тому +17

      I agree, But I hope you're not including Puerto Ricans when you said "We love all our people from the African diaspora"🤔

    • @WarriorsCherub999
      @WarriorsCherub999 2 роки тому +16

      I agree: with there is no need for the lies, but we are realizing. There was only unity & universal acceptance on our part. That is over.

    • @jayshah9967
      @jayshah9967 2 роки тому +25

      Exactly. Attendance and Contribution is NOT Creation

    • @MangoSlade.
      @MangoSlade. 2 роки тому +19

      People need to stop with this African diaspora myth!!!!

    • @jayshah9967
      @jayshah9967 2 роки тому +3

      @@MangoSlade. Exactly

  • @thebookofronism.723
    @thebookofronism.723 2 роки тому +29

    I'm from Philly and I'm enjoying the conversation and documentation of the music that I love and hold dear because it is the soundtrack of of some of the best times in my life. When the 5% nation was removed as the standard of hip-hop it began to degrade literally overnight.

    • @darklight7452
      @darklight7452 2 роки тому +6

      Good observation

    • @chanceblak8132
      @chanceblak8132 2 роки тому +2

      Yo I never noticed that 😢

    • @williamdavis8855
      @williamdavis8855 3 місяці тому +2

      Uh huh . cause Knowledge is the element that keeps it all together!!

    • @anthonyosburn3786
      @anthonyosburn3786 2 місяці тому

      Tell this dudes about jocko the original rymeing Disc jockey from philly

  • @fatherfire4343
    @fatherfire4343 2 роки тому +51

    Raheim is in the top 4 of MC pioneers along with Mel, Moe Dee, and CAZ. Highly underated. Go study his work or you'll be wack.

    • @thetruthhurts8618
      @thetruthhurts8618 2 роки тому +7

      Kool Moe Dee definitely is a legend! Nobody wanted to battle him back in his day! He's a real lyrical battle rapper!

    • @mack2629
      @mack2629 2 роки тому +4

      Yessir !! Raheim was and IS a lyrical BEAST !!

    • @thelmathomas9399
      @thelmathomas9399 2 роки тому

      Nah your wack for acting like you really know🤦

    • @keithcarter1424
      @keithcarter1424 2 роки тому

      True Indeed my G

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому +4

      Thank you

  • @cimarronreed7556
    @cimarronreed7556 2 роки тому +35

    Rahiem set the standard for TJ Swan and Nate Dogg. He could have even been apart of the Force MD's... The unfortunate truth is, the "Disco" DJ's don't get their props for influencing Hip-Hop because as teens weren't allowed in the clubs. GM Caz even admits that he was to young to go to Herc's parties. So, if Caz was too young, then he couldn't see Pete DJ Jones using 2 turntables, who GM Flash in his autobiography credits Jones with teaching him how to mix. Jone's later credits Flash with taking it to the next level with looling. That's how history is suppose to work where you give credit where credit is due. Early pioneers talked about Hip-Hop as if it was formed in a vacuum and now50 years later it has roots outside of what was going on before and simultaneously. Shout out to DJ Hollywood and the other prodgenies!

    • @Lovely-ff7uv
      @Lovely-ff7uv 2 роки тому +5

      He for sure influenced the Force MD's. I ALWAYS wanted to know his perspective on that. But this is really the FIRST time I am EVER seeing him being interviewed properly. I am excited for this ep.

    • @cimarronreed7556
      @cimarronreed7556 2 роки тому +5

      Hopefully, more of them will begin to do more interviews.

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому

      Thank you

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому

      Thank you

    • @Lovely-ff7uv
      @Lovely-ff7uv Рік тому

      @@Rahiem.official do you have a UA-cam channel? You need one if not

  • @doingit2death
    @doingit2death 2 роки тому +19

    Rahiem calls Grandmaster Flowers a "disco Dj" (Flowers wasn't a disco dj), but The Furious 5, Kurtis Blow, The Sugar Hill Gang and the rest of hip hop groups who first starting making records, all made records rhyming over disco music or disco type music

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому +4

      That’s true however, the contrasting difference between Flash or hip hop DJs and Disco DJs is the hip hop DJs showcased and highlighted the breaks of those disco records, whereas the didco DJs played the entire records and they blended and hip hop DJs cut and scratched, so there is a contrasting difference

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому

      Typo disco

    • @mayalunics4740
      @mayalunics4740 4 місяці тому +1

      Brooklyn DJs and Bronx DJs were different. Hip Hop as we know it today was fine tuned in the Bronx.

    • @negroantonio28
      @negroantonio28 3 місяці тому

      He was there, so he would definitely know

    • @williamdavis8855
      @williamdavis8855 3 місяці тому

      When did Disco music come out 1975?? Flowers was in the 1960s he's playing funk and soul that had the original break beats.. Pig Meat Markam 1968 MCing in Here comes the Judge

  • @michaelcampbell5849
    @michaelcampbell5849 2 роки тому +22

    Kool herc didn't start hip Hop, but he did play Music in the park, just like other cities DJ's played in the park in the early 1970's.

    • @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
      @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie Рік тому +3

      I don't think one person created hip hop. Hip hop is a combination of alot of things. Graffiti, scratching, break dance, mixing records. Rhyming.

    • @FBA_AllTHEWAY
      @FBA_AllTHEWAY Рік тому +7

      It’s documented Park Jams started with Disco King Mario of BxDale .

    • @lionspirit131
      @lionspirit131 11 місяців тому +2

      Disco Mario just played music before Kool Herc started looping breaks.

    • @bennyblanc100
      @bennyblanc100 6 місяців тому +1

      He bought that big ass sound system from a Puerto Rican guy too

    • @t.stanley6315
      @t.stanley6315 3 місяці тому

      Hip Hop was created in The Bronx...we're no other cities or anything like that, doing what The Bronx was doing. This is exactly what Rahiem was talking about...re-writing history.

  • @badnewzscubasteve
    @badnewzscubasteve 2 роки тому +44

    Yessss we need these things documented ASAP while our legends are still here to tell us before "they" REALLYYYYYY take our shit.. I can imagine the story of HIP Hop told 60,70,75 years from now 🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @jman1562001
      @jman1562001 2 роки тому

      We got the museums and the TV programming platforms NOW, the Documentaries are being DONE now....TV One do a good job with the Unsung sereis. Revolt TV is Diddy's thing. There are black folk in position, it's on US to MAKE SURE that we continue to document this history and OWN IT. Rap has more millionaires and billionaires in POSITION from the black community. And in this independent climate there is no excuse for US to not CLAIM what belongs from our people. PERIOD!!! Ain't no need to imagine when it's on RECORD and WE ARE HERE. Let's put that ENERGY out there.

  • @WillieBangg
    @WillieBangg 2 роки тому +43

    This is so important to document with the actual letter living legends that created and birthed the culture.

  • @AF-Twice
    @AF-Twice 2 роки тому +36

    People keep calling Hip Hop, rap. Rap is a part of Hip Hop, it is not Hip Hop itself.

    • @ev8318
      @ev8318 8 місяців тому +3

      I wish people would get this correct.

    • @ChristopherBrown-c8u
      @ChristopherBrown-c8u 3 місяці тому +1

      Facts of life💯‼️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @timothywhitt8517
      @timothywhitt8517 3 місяці тому

      Explain the difference

    • @AF-Twice
      @AF-Twice 3 місяці тому

      @@timothywhitt8517 - Hip Hop is a culture that consists of several elements. Rap is an element of Hip Hop, but Hip Hop is more than just Rap. DJ'ing/Turntablism, Breakdancing, Graffiti, and Lifestyle is Hip Hop.. Commercial media usually just acknowledges Rap as Hip Hop because Rap is the only element that makes a lot of money. The other elements don't generate the money that Rap does so the music industry and commercial media marginalizes the other elements and act like they don't exist.
      To put it simpler, Rap is Hip Hop music, not Hop Hop itself.

    • @timothywhitt8517
      @timothywhitt8517 3 місяці тому

      @@AF-Twice You still didn't answer the question, how is it a culture, what makes it a culture?

  • @joshuawisdom9694
    @joshuawisdom9694 2 роки тому +21

    I want to thank the beloved Lord Jamar for setting the remixed record straight beloved. This is the definition of representing. Peace Gs.

  • @akvalues
    @akvalues 2 роки тому +46

    EVERYONE TRY TO STEAL OUR SHIT!!! FAT JOE LIKE EM YOU ARE A GUEST IN HIP HOP!!! STOP THE DISRESPECT!!!

    • @melanatedwarrior3530
      @melanatedwarrior3530 2 роки тому +19

      Facts!!! All Non FBA'S are guest

    • @ralphpinkins5619
      @ralphpinkins5619 2 роки тому +1

      Facts... Sloppy Joe/All Puerto Ricans/All Jamaicans are guests. The most disrespect is the fact that Fat Joe / Busta havent come out and clarified their statements. They standing on that. Knowing damn well, theyre lying.

    • @ralphpinkins5619
      @ralphpinkins5619 2 роки тому +4

      @@IAMHIPHOP974 always guests. Nothing wrong with it. Respect to Puerto Ricans for their participation /contributions to the artform and culture called hip hop created by blacks. Their contributions helped push the culture forward. 🙏Peace

    • @ralphpinkins5619
      @ralphpinkins5619 2 роки тому +8

      @@IAMHIPHOP974 Puerto Ricans ain't gatekeepers to nothing hip hop. Lmao. I'm from NYC so make it make sense

    • @melanatedwarrior3530
      @melanatedwarrior3530 2 роки тому +9

      @@IAMHIPHOP974 How are we outsiders in our own culture?? Boy stop projecting 🤭

  • @mack2629
    @mack2629 2 роки тому +9

    My favorite Rubie D line : Hey Rubie D is my name and I'm a puertorican, you might think I'm black by the way that I'm speakin. ALL THESE MEN ARE LEGENDS. Let the TRUTH be TOLD !! By the way, Prince Whipper Whip and Dotta Rock are the ORIGINAL SALT AND PEPPER MC'S !!

    • @malikbey5522
      @malikbey5522 2 роки тому +4

      But all FBA culture not Puerto Rican be real.

  • @gixxer750cc
    @gixxer750cc 2 роки тому +19

    6:16 This solo by Rahiem is probably the Best RnB, Soul, Gospel, Funk, Pop, Hip-Hop, Rap Deliveries Ever!!!

    • @pickleman5041
      @pickleman5041 2 роки тому

      what song is tha? I'm not sure if I ever heard that

    • @gixxer750cc
      @gixxer750cc 2 роки тому +2

      @@pickleman5041 “Flash to the Beat” - Grand Master Flash

    • @Marcus-kc9wc
      @Marcus-kc9wc 2 роки тому +1

      @@gixxer750cc appreciate the information.

    • @terrenceliburd8655
      @terrenceliburd8655 2 роки тому

      The actual performance of Flash on the Beatbox was done in BronxRiver Center in 1979. On the Promo/Plate Mele Mel actually did the solo parts because Rahiem had a bad throat and couldn't actually sing that night. Fast foward 3 years on the Sugar Hill 12 inch Flash on the Beatbox Rahiem is the lead vocalist on that song.

  • @CAMOFLAJJONES
    @CAMOFLAJJONES 3 місяці тому +3

    this made me so happy, PEACE TO THE GODS!

  • @gloriousmathematicsallahs9084
    @gloriousmathematicsallahs9084 2 роки тому +23

    Peace to Lord Jamar for going to the root of how this culture was actually made. Hip-Hop is the fruit of Black life in North America no matter what era of time it is appropriated by others.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Рік тому

      but not all black ppl like hip hop..

    • @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1
      @GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 Рік тому +4

      @@soramirez5473 Irrelevant and way off topic, since whether Black People in general liking Hip Hop isn't the subject matter and a deflection from discussing it's origins

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Рік тому +3

      @@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 actually it IS relevent because hip hop was born out of the STREETS and NYC streets at that.. if you dont know that then you are severly lacking in hip hop knowledge.. and since it was birthed in NYC streets, guess what, LATINOS do run in the streets over here ESPECIALLY in the Bronx.. Hip hop is NYC street music created by a SPECIFIC type of black person.. its NOT BLACK MUSIC.. perhaps r&b and other things of that nature IS black music but NOT EVERY BLACK PERSON IDENTIFIES WITH HIP HOP CULTRE..

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Рік тому

      @@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 the bronx is PRIMARILY Puerto Rican (even MORE SO back then).. Hip Hop was CREATED IN THE SOUTH BRONX an EXTREMELY puerto rican neighborhood in NYC.. yet for some reason black people want to say latinos are STEALING YOUR CULTURE? lol it was BORN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.. LOL.

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 Рік тому +1

      @@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 SO to go with YOUR point, JUST because the MAJORITY of hip hop fans or hip artists are black DOESNT make it BLACK music. yea your right. its NYC STREET music.. created MOSTLY by black NEW YORKERS, with A FEW latinos (primarily puerto rican new yorkers) there as well. THAT is a FACT..

  • @soulknob
    @soulknob 2 роки тому +6

    Rahiem was the first MC to say long form rhymes that told stories. He was so dope that other MC's had to follow what he was doing or get left behind. He is not credited for changing the game. The crowd would roar after he said rhyme and them hit them with the punch line.

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому +5

      Thank you for remembering and acknowledging me

    • @MalcolmFreeman-u9m
      @MalcolmFreeman-u9m 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Rahiem.official you deserve it my brother I salute you.

  • @arrellehnisrael8229
    @arrellehnisrael8229 2 роки тому +3

    Love strong honest dialogue. Shout out to these Puerto Rican pioneers for being pioneers and and helping to translate the real fruits of our culture to their people. Unfortunately some have chosen to be intentionally dishonest but there are some PR riders out there like these gentlemen and hiphop scholars. Guys who paved the way and don't really get that much love from their own community for being pioneers unless there's a check involved. Now they gotta push the narrative while trying to leave these guys out continually which really debunks the narrative.

  • @smarke76
    @smarke76 2 роки тому +10

    This debate gave you some really good content.

  • @JayS64
    @JayS64 2 роки тому +8

    10:57 Quite frankly if old school hip hop pioneers have been hearing incorrect info for 40-50 years they should have set the record straight and stopped the disrespect a long time ago.

    • @anthonyosburn3786
      @anthonyosburn3786 2 місяці тому

      Good point I wonder why rappers like Curtis blow have nor made any comments

  • @sankofaafari4374
    @sankofaafari4374 2 роки тому +14

    Don’t forget about the black spades from Bronxdale. Those black American kids started the culture of Hip-Hop. A lot of them are still around. Hip-Hop didn’t start in 1971 exactly. It was being organically created in the late 60’ into the 70’s. You had DJ’s like King Mario doing breaks before Kool Herc.

  • @diadomingue7306
    @diadomingue7306 2 роки тому +23

    The FBA Rappers need to get together and create their own documentary. Ice Cube is a Director. I just don't understand how Puerto Ricans/Jamaicans can say they created hip-hop when the Black Southern Baptist Preachers have been rapping forever!! Rhyming their sermons and religious sayings, with the church in call-and-response mode with that soul-clap to GOSPEL music. PR are Catholic - rhyming, call-and-response and that soul-clap to Gospel music is not part of the Catholic church or their culture.

    • @JD-ny3vz
      @JD-ny3vz 2 роки тому +5

      Because that's hip hop....just because you rhymed to music in the 40s isn't Hip Hop...Hip Hop is rhyming on break beats, with two turntables, it's b-boying, it's graffiti.
      It's an entire culture it's fashion, slang, swagger, a mindset.
      Rapping is just one part of hip hop.
      Truth is Hip Hop was a collaborative genre. The culture was created by Jamaicans, Black Americans, and Puerto Ricans. Those were the people living in the South Bronx during that time. It's a fact

    • @renaudvillacis8066
      @renaudvillacis8066 2 роки тому +2

      @@JD-ny3vz these dudes dont know what hip hop is they thibk rap is hip hop . Rap is a part of hip hop . Ny created hip hop

    • @diadomingue7306
      @diadomingue7306 2 роки тому

      @@JD-ny3vz Black music was created by Black Americans - all stemming from gospel music. You can lie to yourself, but rap/hip-hop was created by FBA. PR and Jamaicans do not have swagger - that's all FBA. They are copying off FBA.

    • @diadomingue7306
      @diadomingue7306 2 роки тому +9

      @@renaudvillacis8066 I know PR and Jamaicans didn't create it. BLACK NY did.

    • @renaudvillacis8066
      @renaudvillacis8066 2 роки тому

      @@diadomingue7306 mark twain was brack ? Mozart was brack ? Jeez us was brack ? U one of those ? Lmmfao

  • @OrganicTrap
    @OrganicTrap 2 роки тому +18

    Rahiem is the father of Treach and Wesley Pipes

  • @jdealsdirect7660
    @jdealsdirect7660 2 роки тому +24

    DJ Mario was completed left out of his depiction of the start of hip hop. Before Bronx River, there was Bronxdale where Bam, Theodore, and Herc got their education on hip hop culture. Herc himself stated he learned FBA culture by going to parties in Murphy projects in the bronx before he even picked up a turntable.

    • @mbp333
      @mbp333 2 роки тому +5

      Thank you & the fact is left out that the 10473,10472 has the most housing projects in the Bronx period..... Plus we had the biggest gang in NYC the BLACK SPADE'S.

    • @TheIntrovert83
      @TheIntrovert83 2 роки тому +1

      @@mbp333 Are The Black Spades still around?

    • @MizTheDonGargon
      @MizTheDonGargon 2 роки тому +4

      ding ding ding.... the black spades and bronxdale projects created hiphop culture. Kool herc used to try to dress like king mario!

    • @jdealsdirect7660
      @jdealsdirect7660 2 роки тому +1

      @@mbp333 yo minny.. this is Mel B

  • @vnorm2907
    @vnorm2907 Рік тому +2

    Yo, I am glad Rahiem talked about being the first MC to sing on the mic.
    I forgot all about the singing on Flash on the Beat Box and was thinking all these years it was G Man from the Crash Crew.

  • @discoslice2205
    @discoslice2205 2 роки тому +2

    This panel is official tissue! Akademiks I hope your tuned in and learn to respect these living pioneers throwing GEMS at us!✊️✌️

  • @themix3350
    @themix3350 2 роки тому +5

    I love this for y’all… Jamar, Whip, Silk, Raheem and Dee peace to y’all and all the true innovators creators of HipHop

  • @garfieldbright
    @garfieldbright 7 місяців тому +1

    needed that actual history. Thanks. Valuable content.

  • @ray1411
    @ray1411 2 роки тому +10

    Tell Rahiem, Disco is the bastard child of Funk and Hip Hop is the bastard child of Disco. Thats a fact.

    • @WarriorsCherub999
      @WarriorsCherub999 2 роки тому +8

      Nooooo disco & funk birthed hiphop. There are no bastard children in our creations.

    • @ray1411
      @ray1411 2 роки тому +2

      @@WarriorsCherub999
      True.

    • @georgeguntrip6850
      @georgeguntrip6850 2 роки тому

      Think the crack epidemic came just around the time of disco

    • @abrahambowen8332
      @abrahambowen8332 2 роки тому +2

      @@WarriorsCherub999 Actually Hip Hop was influenced by Disco and a Rebellion against it.
      That's what makes the relationship between disco and hip hop complicated

    • @abrahambowen8332
      @abrahambowen8332 2 роки тому +2

      @@georgeguntrip6850 The crack epidemic started in the early 80s when the Disco era was over.

  • @creamwave
    @creamwave Рік тому +1

    Much love to Lord Jamar and a Major thanks to Rahiem for explaining the contributions of Grandmaster Flash & Grand Wizzard Theodore in an elegant way. He didn’t detract from the greatness of anyone but clarified for us all. God bless & pray that Kid Creole gets free soon

  • @5000G-x2z
    @5000G-x2z 2 роки тому +19

    If Hip Hop has a start date it would be 1968 with Pigmeat Markham song Here Comes the Judges. If it has a place it would be Bronxdale the people would be the Black Spades and FBA young men between the ages of 9 to 16 who wanted to break dance to break beats. Disco King Mario gave flash and bam their first chance to DJ. The music was based on Jazz Soul R& B and Funk. Herc played James Brown records with drummer Clyde Stubblefield drum breaks. Vocalist writers producers and musicians create music not DJs they only play music. herc or any immigrants had nothing to do with the creation of Hip Hop. Imagine someone taking Lord Jamar lyrics loop them then say they created music. Ricans were the first non Black fans they created nothing they pioneered nothing the contributed nothing. They were just fans in small numbers.

    • @ralphpinkins5619
      @ralphpinkins5619 2 роки тому +7

      and participants in the later years of hip hop. They didnt create anything related to hip hop but were fans in small numbers in the early beginnings and were some of the first participants, first groups of people to adopt the culture.

    • @jdealsdirect7660
      @jdealsdirect7660 2 роки тому +6

      absolute facts bruv.

    • @abrahambowen8332
      @abrahambowen8332 2 роки тому +2

      Those like Herc didn't create it but they played Important roles in its development.

    • @christinagraham2915
      @christinagraham2915 2 роки тому +1

      You gotta go way back

  • @MERGE-1
    @MERGE-1 Місяць тому +1

    Blacks unquestionably were the majority of the early days and most influential but make no mistake Puerto Ricans, whether in small numbers or not, were early contributors in keeping the culture alive even having to use aliases to avoid backlash for being Latino and many of us have died for this culture. For those Puerto Ricans who were not present, I apologize on their behalf because they were busy getting the highest Cancer rates from the Navy bombing test sites on the island for 60 years, being sterilized by the US government along with being tested on and transplanted with cancer and radiation. So, as a result, PR Nationalist attempted to assassinate President Truman in DC for his atrocities!! They didn’t rap about it but wanted their people’s voices heard! There were Young Lords marching with the panthers in the 60’s. Since the 19th century, they came to the US for a better life mainly due to poverty and instead we’re constantly shamed and faced racism & prejudices from blacks & whites but God forbid we talk about that! Keep your founding member trophy!
    Peace & love is colorless!

  • @stephonpervez2760
    @stephonpervez2760 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this upload... It's definitely needed these days to show and remind people of the truth in rap /hip hop music... ✌️ 🙏

  • @nipplife
    @nipplife 2 роки тому +4

    Dope 🔥 I rocked the mic with Kool Herc at the T Connection and Mean Gean at the Ecstacy Garage and Grandmaster Flowers in Brooklyn I'm so Hip Hop 👊🏾

  • @bangswift
    @bangswift 2 роки тому +7

    In the 70s in New York Puerto Rican influence was everywhere especially in the South Bronx. Blacks and Ricans grew up together, Hip Hop was not made overnight Hip Hop is a evolution of everything that was happening in the Bronx.

    • @thelmathomas9399
      @thelmathomas9399 2 роки тому

      Lies!! Ricans we're racist as hell

    • @erickellam8237
      @erickellam8237 3 місяці тому

      Pr only influence other pr or Caribbeans not blk Americans

    • @williamdavis8855
      @williamdavis8855 3 місяці тому

      That's a myth.. the 4 in this panel who were teens in the 1970s says it was tension with PRs being around Brown youth.. I guess that's the Spaniard in Puerto Ricans coming out loudly!!

  • @cfgodwell
    @cfgodwell 2 роки тому +1

    This is a real circle. I only wish these things could take place in person in a town hall setting with young rappers invited to both LISTEN and partake with questions later.

  • @FBAquicksand
    @FBAquicksand 2 роки тому +14

    I got my hands on the tapes from my people in NY all the way to Augusta GA. I was the plug 😂😂😂😂

    • @zxcccccc1
      @zxcccccc1 2 роки тому

      Impressive since in 81, 82 I couldn't get rap music in D.C

  • @MalcolmFreeman-u9m
    @MalcolmFreeman-u9m 10 місяців тому +1

    I feel like all the pioneer's from the beginning should start writing there books & and contribution to hip-hop, cause each and every one has a different history of when and how they came into the hip-hop scene, and i find it very interesting to read and hear there story. It was all for the Love of the culture.

  • @MrSincerious
    @MrSincerious Рік тому

    I came back to this video to say, THE HIP-HOP DOCUMENTARY IS ALMOST HERE!! I hope all 5 of these brothers are in it! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
    Big ups to Tariq Nasheed! Lord Jamar keep killing em! PEACE! 🙏🏾

  • @SIRTURF
    @SIRTURF 2 роки тому +11

    This conversation needs to be had on the Breakfast Club.

    • @jman1562001
      @jman1562001 2 роки тому +2

      Word this got to be on BIG hip-hop platforms to really make that IMPACT in the mainstream.

    • @hagnuj1070
      @hagnuj1070 4 місяці тому

      Those radio stations are dominated by Hispanics. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

  • @slimischillin7753
    @slimischillin7753 2 роки тому +10

    I didn’t know funky 4 + 1 more rhyme style proceeded the furious. I thought sha was biting creole. This is crazy. Y’all gotta battle again after this lol smh. Free creole mane rip cowboy

  • @myronsmith2114
    @myronsmith2114 2 роки тому +2

    I can’t see how New York can have a conversation about the origins of Hip Hop without including Philly

  • @mrforrester488
    @mrforrester488 2 роки тому +1

    This is why lord jamar is needed the culture was under attack and everybody scared to speak up

  • @MusicLover-oq6dk
    @MusicLover-oq6dk 2 роки тому +3

    Kool Herc had a dj name Jay Cee who was as good if not better than Grandmaster Flash back then.

  • @vincentwilliams5271
    @vincentwilliams5271 2 роки тому +5

    GW Theodore didn't appreciate Rahiem down playing his role in hiphop!

  • @djtren63
    @djtren63 2 роки тому +1

    What a lot don't know is Rahiem is multi talented Musically Singing and creating music. Many of these brothers are.

  • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307
    @bootneyleefarnsworth7307 2 роки тому +12

    Rap and Hip-Hop are both Black AmericanDOS creations, however they're two different things with different histories. Ninety nine percent of the time when people say Hip-Hop what they really mean is Rap, the "Hip-Hop" term needs to be fazed out when discussing music. Technically, Hip-Hop is a youth movement that was birthed in the Bronx and died there. The Hip-Hop term has been misused and thrown around loosely and inappropriately for decades, it's caused confusion and that's one of the reasons Rap doesn't have a proper standard history as a music genre. You don't associate the creation of Blues or Jazz with any type of separate youth or cultural movement so why would you do it with Rap?

    • @JD-ny3vz
      @JD-ny3vz 2 роки тому +1

      Because rap is part of that youth movement sub culture and continues to be an element of that.
      Hip hop is rapping, it's the beats, it's dancing, it's fashion, it's graffiti, it's a mindset, etc.
      The rapping part is the most important part but hip hop is more than music it is the biggest most dominant sub culture in the world

    • @bootneyleefarnsworth7307
      @bootneyleefarnsworth7307 2 роки тому +2

      @@JD-ny3vz False, technically Hip-Hop never made it out of the Bronx. Afrika Bambattaa and the Universal Zulu Nation got a lotta y'all confused.

    • @JD-ny3vz
      @JD-ny3vz 2 роки тому

      @@bootneyleefarnsworth7307 How the fuck did Hip Hop never make it out the Bronx you sound insane.
      So when dudes in Brooklyn, Harlem, Queens and shit started rapping and DJing, break dance, and doing graffiti that wasnt hip hop then?
      Again you think your slick your trying to dismiss hip hop as a sub culture because you know it was a collaborative sub culture between Black Americans, Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans. But you wanna harp on rap because again you can then connect it to early forms of black people in America rhyming to music.

    • @odemata87
      @odemata87 2 роки тому

      @@JD-ny3vz Graffiti is what the media called it. It was called Writing by those who pioneered it just as people confuse Hip-Hop with Rapping.

    • @sslyshalom333
      @sslyshalom333 4 місяці тому

      @@bootneyleefarnsworth7307 , LMAO.......HIPHOP CULTURE IS GLOBAL.

  • @DavidSheltonKCDJUnique
    @DavidSheltonKCDJUnique 2 роки тому +3

    I'm glad Raheem broke it down like that.

  • @UzzielLewi
    @UzzielLewi 2 роки тому +3

    Moreno just means brown is not a derogatory term, cocolo is, but that is more so a term used by Dominicans not so much Puerto Ricans.
    The argument is not wether or not Puerto Ricans were the creators of hip-hop , but wether or not they were there at the beginning, and by default I think that they were.

  • @soramirez5473
    @soramirez5473 Рік тому +1

    i agree with that. my moms lived in the bronx during the 70s.. it was MOSTLY black, with SOME puerto ricans/maybe other latinos sprinked in there that were jamming to hip hop.. . MOST latinos were into salsa or disco. My uncles were disco heads, they tell me stories of getting into knife fights in clubs during the 70s in NYC. my AUNTS liked hip hop. THERE WERE SOME latinos there. why is that so hard to accept? and it IS mostly black ppl that started it. Hip hop is STREET music and guess what.. LATINOS ARE IN THE STREET.

    • @hagnuj1070
      @hagnuj1070 4 місяці тому

      Colonizer mindset. Also Hip Hop birthed a multi-billion dollar industry.

  • @cfgodwell
    @cfgodwell 2 роки тому +2

    I so wish that they brought up the disrespect of one DJ AKADEMIKS, who has been on a tear disrespecting "old rappers" for "not managing their business", when he obviously does not know that the early days of the music (especially Hip Hop, which didn't even have a name yet) industry were shady, mafia connected, drug dealer financed and Jewish controlled. Bottom line. DJ Akademiks wouldn't have survived with that mouth of his in the early days of hot house parties in Bronx, Brooklyn, Harlem and Queens basements.
    DJ AKADEMIKS is a CLOWN 🤡

  • @willierobinson9501
    @willierobinson9501 3 місяці тому

    peace and respect legends pioneers

  • @michaelcampbell5849
    @michaelcampbell5849 2 роки тому +2

    Rap/Boy has evolved into Hip Hop once it went nationally and mainstream. Grandmaster flash was different from the earlier 1970's.

  • @randumbryan
    @randumbryan 2 роки тому +1

    Feel my arm, got the chills.....
    Hip Hop Just Don't Stop

  • @sls554
    @sls554 Рік тому +2

    Grandmaster Theordore said he Learn how to scratch by himself and not Flash. Look up Grandmaster Theordore on how he invented scratching.

  • @nconquest2915
    @nconquest2915 2 роки тому +1

    Peace, that episode hit me like a plus degree! Power breakdown on the podcast.

  • @sls554
    @sls554 Рік тому +1

    The so call Disco DJs had the DJ skills and DJ techniques before and herc, flash, and baambaata.

  • @joeyyy771
    @joeyyy771 2 роки тому +6

    I thought Eminem started hiphop lol just kidding thanks for these OG guests setting things straight

    • @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie
      @KrishnaSingh-ow1ie Рік тому +1

      Next 100 years they might say that. You know history is distorted. The original person never gets the credit.

    • @joeyyy771
      @joeyyy771 Рік тому

      @@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie that’s true haha all I know is I grew up in the hood and I never once heard a car crusin in the hood playing , “ hi my name is slim shady lol garbage music

  • @venomousfeminist1038
    @venomousfeminist1038 2 роки тому +4

    Fba's created hip hop but that's irrelevant cause the almighty smallHats controls it

  • @sls554
    @sls554 Рік тому +1

    Some of you all putting the Disco DJs down but they Play the Breakbeats, extending the Breakbeats, played two copies of the same Breakbeats, Blending, Mixing, back spinning, scratching, cutting, needle drop, and DJing with Two turntables sometimes turntables. The so called Disco DJs were doing all these DJ skills before herc, flash, and baambaata.

  • @NYScott-mj6uo
    @NYScott-mj6uo 2 роки тому

    FACT,FACT,FACT, is about time PEACE to Rahim the only one to peel back the layers of the HIP HOP ONION

  • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
    @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 2 роки тому +1

    We need to call all the A&R's out by name also that enabled record labels to control HIPHOP Music which eventually forced artists and music oroducers to compromise their talents.

  • @donaldmccall3968
    @donaldmccall3968 9 місяців тому

    The culture came outta the black power movement of the 60s and 70s against segregation against social injustice, black is beautiful talented jive talking. All of was rapping since the 1930s thought 70s

  • @360will7
    @360will7 2 роки тому +3

    In another interview, Dylan credited the entire genre of rap to Brown. "Nothing is new," Dylan said. "Even rap records. I love that stuff but it’s not new, you used to hear that stuff all the time … there was this one guy, Big Brown, he wore a jail blanket, that’s all he ever used to wear, summer and winter. John Hammond would remember him too-he was like Othello, he’d recite epics like some grand Roman orator, really backwater stuff though, Stagger Lee, Cocaine Smitty, Hattiesburg Hattie. Where were the record companies when he was around?"[7]

  • @777equals666
    @777equals666 10 місяців тому

    Dj Phase (Black Spade’s member) from Bronxdale projects and Coke La Rok says that it was Disco King Mario who put Bam and Herc on game on a few occasions before they made their own names. In addition you had Dj Hollywood, New Sounds, Cameron Flowers and a number of people that laid the foundation for what we call Hip Hop. Many Zulu Nation members don’t mention these people.

    • @sunborn_7
      @sunborn_7 3 місяці тому +1

      Disco King Mario was black

  • @JD-uk8hy
    @JD-uk8hy 3 місяці тому +1

    All y'all need to put some respect on Pigmeat Markham's name. Word!

  • @antionemartin5698
    @antionemartin5698 2 роки тому +1

    Kangol from UTFO was singing/rapping back in the early 80’s too!

  • @turonwhitfield7917
    @turonwhitfield7917 2 роки тому

    The fact that lord Jamar is the young man out the group he said he grew up listening to them is gold because lord Jamar is a elder so the fact that the people he brought he they young bo this knowledge needs to be appreciated.

  • @sls554
    @sls554 Рік тому +1

    RAHIEM, YOU said Grandmaster Theodore may Have seen flash do something may cause.

  • @merchantsmithimages
    @merchantsmithimages 2 роки тому +1

    "Rahiem in all the Ladies dreams..."

  • @boomboombaby9140
    @boomboombaby9140 2 роки тому +1

    James E West who is a black American invented the microphone. his technology is in all of the digital devices used for speaking . Black Americans fathered all of them

  • @vnorm2907
    @vnorm2907 Рік тому

    I remember meeting Wild Style Whipper Whip on North Island, San Diego while in the Navy.

  • @NOXX1985
    @NOXX1985 2 роки тому +1

    fuckin Whipper whip??? Ruby Dee??? these emcees are Fucking LEGENDS!!!!! These dudes been around for easily 4 decades man holy shit!!!💯💯💯💯💯💯 To make it short go watch Wild Style, they're in the movie💯💯💯

  • @vnorm2907
    @vnorm2907 Рік тому

    Whoa I never knew that was Rahiem signing on that jam.
    Deep interview.

  • @forensicaccountant259
    @forensicaccountant259 2 роки тому

    The first time I heard scratching was in 1971, at the end of the What's Going On album, when at the end of the acapella reprise, you can hear the engineer cueing up the party sequence using a reference disc.

    • @hagnuj1070
      @hagnuj1070 4 місяці тому

      Hendrix Are You Experienced?

    • @forensicaccountant259
      @forensicaccountant259 4 місяці тому

      @@hagnuj1070 That was the tape being run backwards. I mean actual scratching. Listen to the What's Going On reprise at the end of Inner City Blues.

  • @BBlanco_
    @BBlanco_ 2 роки тому

    Yo this is 🔥 seeing this cats together kicking talking about tapes old music good music man that's what's up !!!

  • @rccurry7431
    @rccurry7431 2 роки тому +3

    Salute to the pioneers of Hip-hop 🎵🎶🎙️ Kool Herc 👍 furious 5 fantastic 5 Dj Hollywood 🎧 Entire Boogie Down Bronx Birth of Hip HOP Many layer's of Hip HOP was Added Much Respect to the Latinos of Hip HOP the Rapper's And DJ 🎧 whipper whip was the Spanish ambassador of Hip HOP SALUTE 🤜🤛

  • @michaelcampbell5849
    @michaelcampbell5849 2 роки тому +2

    B-boys came later in the 1970's, when the parks were happening, it was just the DJ's. Break down early, Middle and late 1970's Rapping.

    • @gdiesal7738
      @gdiesal7738 2 роки тому +1

      No they didn’t break dancing been around since the 40s

    • @michaelcampbell5849
      @michaelcampbell5849 2 роки тому

      @@gdiesal7738, I agree with that, and breaking dancers been around since the 20's. My Cousin was a 1930's performer, named Bill Bailey, whose Pearl Bailey younger Brother.

  • @rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596
    @rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596 2 роки тому +3

    AnD aLL The TiMe I ThoughT ThaT Was KiD CReoLe SinGin' ThoSe MJ PaRTS. 🤦🏾 SaLuTe RahieM. 💯

  • @sls554
    @sls554 Рік тому +1

    Grandmaster Theodore said flash did not teach him had to Scratch, or DJing Skills Period.

  • @vnorm2907
    @vnorm2907 Рік тому

    You guy were the some of the people I looked up to as a kid.

  • @dcwashingtonpresident5938
    @dcwashingtonpresident5938 2 роки тому

    Respect to the GOD Lord Jamar 💯... The Truth is everything

  • @TWILS02119
    @TWILS02119 2 роки тому

    Peace!! I’m loving this!! Yup we got the 10th generation tapes up this way…lol!!
    Peace and blessings… this is beautiful!

  • @zoomanx9661
    @zoomanx9661 2 роки тому +1

    8:17 😂😂😂😂😂a lot of old school moms wasn’t trying to hear that

  • @vaughnwhittaker9691
    @vaughnwhittaker9691 3 місяці тому

    Salute to a legend. I'm a day one fan. You had got good parents for you to know who he is Salute to

  • @colinc5531
    @colinc5531 2 роки тому +6

    My thing is, why now?....for the last 40 yrs noone was disputing the claim of kool herc being the godfather, the one who created hip hop....nobody had a word to say, now all of a sudden there is confusion about the origin of the culture ?...smh

    • @stone5578
      @stone5578 2 роки тому +2

      since UA-cam . everyone got a opinion . now you got dudes from down south claiming they created hip hop . its getting ridiculas

    • @wisdommasterreviews4712
      @wisdommasterreviews4712 2 роки тому

      Politics are involved and they want to replace FBA Aboriginals with Immigrants being the face of the culture because it makes so much money and to take it next level you must disconnect the Indigenous Blacks from the origin. It's all political and we are at war against Non FBA people!

    • @down-b8197
      @down-b8197 2 роки тому

      This isn't true. Multiple people disputed the claim that Kool herc invented hip hop even the Zulu nation but it became a bigger thing when Jamaicans and others from the diaspora started saying black americans have no culture and that they influenced us. Yall overdid it with ur lie and black americans brought out the truth.

    • @LOU1982
      @LOU1982 2 роки тому +12

      Because FBAs have woken up and we want all of our creations back. And we not letting no outsiders come here and tell us we don’t have a culture, when everyone is knee deep in our culture. Black immigrants have played this deceitful shit and we allowed it to fester. Now we setting the story straight with receipts that you can’t refute. 🇺🇸☝🏿

    • @stone5578
      @stone5578 2 роки тому

      @@LOU1982 the fuck is a fba

  • @vaughnwhittaker9691
    @vaughnwhittaker9691 3 місяці тому

    Yo I'm 56 & I didn't know rahiem sang my favorite hip hop r&b blend

  • @NYScott-mj6uo
    @NYScott-mj6uo 2 роки тому +2

    STEVIE D force MD did that too Rahim probably did it on wax first, But STEVIE was the GOAT at that facts,

    • @Rahiem.official
      @Rahiem.official Рік тому +1

      Actually i was doing it in the parks before rap got on wax and if you ask Stevie D what emcee influenced the Force MDs he’ll say Rahiem

    • @NYScott-mj6uo
      @NYScott-mj6uo Рік тому

      @@Rahiem.official PEACE God thanks for setting the record straight I'm from Jesup Ave, I should have known better STEVIE from Harlem,

  • @keithcarter1424
    @keithcarter1424 2 роки тому

    We use to go the YWCA back in 1984 , 1985 , 1986 in Paterson N.J. and get by the speaker's me and boy Zo use to record all the show's on tape just recently converted most of them on 💿 CD'S

  • @Gtotheess
    @Gtotheess 3 місяці тому

    Raheim and mobb deep’s prodigy (r.i.p.) look spitting image facial wise. And even outlived his younger predecessor

  • @cookingnana8204
    @cookingnana8204 2 роки тому +1

    Lord Jamar I found a interesting video called B-Boys A History of Breaking, 1Rock Steady Crew/The Origins. And to the knowledge of the culture of this dance being a culture before other culture saw it and imitated it.

  • @ES2990
    @ES2990 Рік тому +5

    Absolutely nothing from hip hop comes from Puerto Rican or Jamaican culture. We don't have to debate the music, comes straight from funk. Toasting comes from a Black American folkloric oral tradition called "toast-telling" and there are records of it going back to 1919. you can see this in the Journal of American Folklore 1919-jul-sep vol. 32 iss. 125 in an entry by Portia Smiley called Folk-Lore from Virginia, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida. She asks a young boy about toasting and he replies that it's done "just fo pass de time".
    Toasts are also discussed in the 1964 book "Deep down in the Jungle: Black American Folklore from the Streets of Philadelphia by Roger D. Abrahams.

    • @bangswift
      @bangswift 4 місяці тому +2

      Wtf you talking about??

  • @olowasegun6829
    @olowasegun6829 2 роки тому +3

    Is it possible for a brother to do an interview w\o rolling and smoking a blunt.

  • @roc120forever
    @roc120forever 2 роки тому +5

    The irony of all this is that those who pushing FBA don’t realize that the title says “Black” people. The people in the Caribbean are Black people! And it’s in the lessons right Lord Jamar? Columbus discovered the Indians here who were also original people, that is BLACK!
    People fail to realize Columbus never set foot on North American mainland, he was strictly hopping around the Caribbean islands! The lessons say he found North America and the Caribbean‘s are part of North America! And no doubt, the KNOWLEDGE (5th element of hip hop) is the KEY to what made the mainland black Americans special, but they got the KOS from a dude from the middle east! These FBA bots need to stop acting like they created everything! Because they didn’t.
    WHERE THE GODS AT??!

    • @melanatedwarrior3530
      @melanatedwarrior3530 2 роки тому +6

      Huh 😂😂😂

    • @lexbogie1
      @lexbogie1 2 роки тому +1

      Um but there’s no such thing as “black” as race or a history.

  • @hviii7452
    @hviii7452 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Lord Jamar. A listener/fan since 90/91. One..