You missed DC20 which is shaping up to look super amazing. and Starfinder is one good scifi ttrpg. Bit wordy....I wish they would cut it down honestly and streamline stuff, but if you like D&D 3.5, or pathfinder 1 or 2. Starfinder Enhanced edition just makes it better.
I'm actually pretty excited for the DC20 RPG, but I haven't heard a lot of people talk about it since the Kickstarter ended. I think it'll be a great game for those who want a ton of character customization while still staying with familiar areas like classes/species/stats, etc.
The dagger heart system mentioned here sounds reminiscent of the Star Wars rpg from fantasy flight games. (Eote etc)Also you should check out DC20 by the dungeon coach. It’s shaping up to be a great game.
Exactly! I heard the description of Dagger Heart and I immediately went "Wait, why he presents that as something groundbreaking? I've played like that already!". The FFGs mechanics build upon Star Wars RPG line is called Genesys and has been released as a framework rulset to work in many settings, with sourcebooks for some of FFGs original universes. Also, most modern mechanics allow for degrees of succes/failure to be determined by the roll.
Part two!!!! For a Sci-Fi game I think starfinder also fits on the list. Also I know Pathfinder second edition is technically already released but with the remaster version I think it could still kind of fit as a new TTRPG. Plus it has a super-rich lore history and does an amazing job at creating compelling characters and is very well balanced mechanically.
Yeah. I know everybody hates WotC and Loathes Hasbro, but the idea that Dungeons and Dragons is going to stop being the market leader in the ttrpg space is a pretty wild fantasy at this point.
Hm... I am actually most excited about the Fallen London TTRPG which will be coming out in 2025. I hope its mechanics help it be as interesting as the Fallen London game, or its spinoffs like Sunless Sea and Sunless Skies. :)
I started to run Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. My players are excited because they think it brings more depth to the roleplaying. I personally also like the scaling better. If anyone is interested,the starter set has enough material in in to last a full campaigns length in Ubersreik, your favorite vermintide hangout. Im not buying in, but im curious how the upcoming tainted grail ttrp will perform.
Happy holidays man. I am personally excited for Daggerheart and Draw Steel. The hard part is getting my table to try literally anything that doesn't have the D&D logo on it. A few of my players are big Sanderson fans, so that might be an option. Maybe 2025 will be the year.
Daggerheart is the one that I'm most excited about, though I have a feeling that a lot of groups will drop the initiative-less setup in favour of more structured play. Us humans don't have the acting / comedy / improv chops to know when we're taking too much of the spotlight in combat, and even with the initiative tracker tokens, it can feel like one character gets to shine at the expense of the others. That's pretty much my only gripe with it though, I'm in love with everything else about the system - including the fact the Combat Wheelchair is part of the core rules and EVERYONE knows sign language. Discworld is going to be a tonne of fun too - I just need to find some players with a similar enthusiam for witty puns! Happy holidays to you from (sometimes) sunny Scotland!
I love Daggerheart's good and bad side effects in addition to success and failure. Star Wars FFG RPG did this concept, but unfortunately that product line has been neglected
Honestly none of these are even mildly interesting to me. It seems like they are not innovative in any way and the only thing they have is marketing and/or big money behind them.
Given my feels on 5e, I have no faith in WotC making a good sci fi rpg. For the time being I'll stick to PF2e for fantasy, and I'll check out Starfinder 2e when it comes out. I'm curious about Daggerheart and... uh... the MCDM rpg too. Cosmere RPG... well, while I do quite enjoy the books, I have never once thought "I want to play in these worlds" so unless the system is stellar (I haven't looked into it) and not a pita to put into a different setting, I imagine I'll be passing on it.
It is ridiculous to state that Daggerheart, the Discworld RPG or the Cosmere RPG will be a DND Killer. You would have to ignore math, pattern recognition and logic to state this - and I think you very much are.
@BonusAction Every TTRPG has a few tables that prefer their game. The definition of a D&D killer is a ttrpg that fully arrives and actually competes with D&D a national and international level. Thank you for the video.
Lmao, Daggerheart. Earthdawn has done all this since the 90’s. None if this is new. D&d absolutely needs de-throning. The game that will be and should always have been king since the 90’s is Earthdawn. The only fantasy rpg for series role-players and great system mechanic buffs alike.
Timestamps!
0:27 Daggerheart
1:45 Draw Steel
3:24 Cosmere
5:00 discworld
5:40 Exodus
7:15 2024 d&d (and why it counts
also great work as always man! :D
Broken Empires, this I’m very excited for,
Biggest D&D killer is Hasbro.
You missed DC20 which is shaping up to look super amazing. and Starfinder is one good scifi ttrpg. Bit wordy....I wish they would cut it down honestly and streamline stuff, but if you like D&D 3.5, or pathfinder 1 or 2. Starfinder Enhanced edition just makes it better.
Ah yes, the other dnd ripoff that everyone keeps talking about. Hard pass.
@@UltraTtrpger even though it's heavily inspired by DnD, you should give it a chance, it's a completely different game now.
I'm actually pretty excited for the DC20 RPG, but I haven't heard a lot of people talk about it since the Kickstarter ended. I think it'll be a great game for those who want a ton of character customization while still staying with familiar areas like classes/species/stats, etc.
I would also mention Nimble 2 and DC20! (Personally really looking forward to Nimble)
Competition is good, glad to see more TTRPGs incoming
This is so true. The more product that is out there, the more the companies do their best to put out a high quality product to draw customers.
The dagger heart system mentioned here sounds reminiscent of the Star Wars rpg from fantasy flight games. (Eote etc)Also you should check out DC20 by the dungeon coach. It’s shaping up to be a great game.
My thoughts exactly.
Exactly! I heard the description of Dagger Heart and I immediately went "Wait, why he presents that as something groundbreaking? I've played like that already!".
The FFGs mechanics build upon Star Wars RPG line is called Genesys and has been released as a framework rulset to work in many settings, with sourcebooks for some of FFGs original universes.
Also, most modern mechanics allow for degrees of succes/failure to be determined by the roll.
Really excited for a few of these!
Wait, what? Why didn’t you include DC20???
There’s a few I didn’t mention due to time constraints! I think I might have to do a part 2!
Part two!!!! For a Sci-Fi game I think starfinder also fits on the list. Also I know Pathfinder second edition is technically already released but with the remaster version I think it could still kind of fit as a new TTRPG. Plus it has a super-rich lore history and does an amazing job at creating compelling characters and is very well balanced mechanically.
@@BonusAction Time constraints...? It's an 8 minute video lol wtf
@@tylergibson7652 Time restraints for me to get the video out before the holiday break
@BonusAction DC20 is what Im most excited about so yes please make a part 2! Happy holidays!!
I'm sticking with Dragonbane. I just don't care any more. I found my game. Shadowdark is good, too.
Forget dc20 and also Ember from the creator of foundry vtt
I really doubt any of these will be DnD killers, but any competition is good
Yeah. I know everybody hates WotC and Loathes Hasbro, but the idea that Dungeons and Dragons is going to stop being the market leader in the ttrpg space is a pretty wild fantasy at this point.
I played Genesys and I've learned that adding narrative weight to every single die roll gets old fast.
Hm... I am actually most excited about the Fallen London TTRPG which will be coming out in 2025. I hope its mechanics help it be as interesting as the Fallen London game, or its spinoffs like Sunless Sea and Sunless Skies. :)
I started to run Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. My players are excited because they think it brings more depth to the roleplaying.
I personally also like the scaling better. If anyone is interested,the starter set has enough material in in to last a full campaigns length in Ubersreik, your favorite vermintide hangout.
Im not buying in, but im curious how the upcoming tainted grail ttrp will perform.
FYI Discworld already had a GURPS book previously, so it's not really just stepping into TTRPG
Wait what about DC20???
Thanks for the list! Interesting stuff for sure
AND we getting the Mighty Nein!
Happy holidays man. I am personally excited for Daggerheart and Draw Steel. The hard part is getting my table to try literally anything that doesn't have the D&D logo on it. A few of my players are big Sanderson fans, so that might be an option. Maybe 2025 will be the year.
Merry Christmas sir, I'm going to be continuing to play D&D 5e /5.5e into and through 2025, including starting a new campaign with a whole new group.
Daggerheart is the one that I'm most excited about, though I have a feeling that a lot of groups will drop the initiative-less setup in favour of more structured play. Us humans don't have the acting / comedy / improv chops to know when we're taking too much of the spotlight in combat, and even with the initiative tracker tokens, it can feel like one character gets to shine at the expense of the others.
That's pretty much my only gripe with it though, I'm in love with everything else about the system - including the fact the Combat Wheelchair is part of the core rules and EVERYONE knows sign language.
Discworld is going to be a tonne of fun too - I just need to find some players with a similar enthusiam for witty puns! Happy holidays to you from (sometimes) sunny Scotland!
I love Daggerheart's good and bad side effects in addition to success and failure. Star Wars FFG RPG did this concept, but unfortunately that product line has been neglected
Where is 0:17 from ?
Speaking of scifi: Blue Planet: Recontact should be released early 2025 (backers already have the pdfs).
Honestly none of these are even mildly interesting to me. It seems like they are not innovative in any way and the only thing they have is marketing and/or big money behind them.
Was more excited about daggerheart before i learned about the dice/roll systems. Tbh, the more I hear of the game, the less appealing its becoming.
Have you never played Edge of the Empire? Its been doing what Daggerheart has for almost a decade.
In regards to Draw Steel, this is just Savage World but in d20
Daggerheart yes!!
Given my feels on 5e, I have no faith in WotC making a good sci fi rpg. For the time being I'll stick to PF2e for fantasy, and I'll check out Starfinder 2e when it comes out. I'm curious about Daggerheart and... uh... the MCDM rpg too. Cosmere RPG... well, while I do quite enjoy the books, I have never once thought "I want to play in these worlds" so unless the system is stellar (I haven't looked into it) and not a pita to put into a different setting, I imagine I'll be passing on it.
It is ridiculous to state that Daggerheart, the Discworld RPG or the Cosmere RPG will be a DND Killer. You would have to ignore math, pattern recognition and logic to state this - and I think you very much are.
I think it could be for some tables
@BonusAction Every TTRPG has a few tables that prefer their game. The definition of a D&D killer is a ttrpg that fully arrives and actually competes with D&D a national and international level. Thank you for the video.
Hm, non of the mentioned rpgs sounds even vaguely interesting to me. And that's kind of sad as I do appreciate the people involved quite a bit.
Lmao, Daggerheart. Earthdawn has done all this since the 90’s. None if this is new. D&d absolutely needs de-throning. The game that will be and should always have been king since the 90’s is Earthdawn. The only fantasy rpg for series role-players and great system mechanic buffs alike.
Moar product.
Daggerheart - woke garbage
Draw Steel - Woke Garbage
Cosmere - D&D ripoff
Discworld - meh
Exodus - fuck wotc
D&F 6e/2024 - woke garbage
Make tabletop great again and play Shadowdark.