One of them was prominent in a movie, as Cary Grant had Irene Dunne take an armload of records into a booth in her record shop {or rather, he did}- just so he could hear and buy records he didn't have a phonograph for, but wanted to spend more time with her- in "Penny Serenade" (1941).
Phonograph needles made of tungsten steel were available in the 1920s, these didn’t need to be changed out after every playing of a record. And now in the 21st century we can hear great orchestra and danceband recordings from even earlier days via a mouse click or a keystroke.
The CD almost made vinyl {which took the place of shellac discs by the early 1950's) obsolete- and now vinyl is making yet another comeback! And so are needle cartridges.......
Very interesting video. Now most the best phono cartridges are made in Japan, except for one ,Grado in Brooklyn NY. Why can't we go back to those days when the US manufactured?? Until we do,we will never be the great country we once were .
But according to Bill's tutorial on the history of needles, it was World War II's need for plane navigation that stimulated the needle making process. So where would the business be without the Japanese?
You mean all this elaborate explanation was spoken off the cuff in the store to the woman this guy was interested in? Oh, she's gonna fall for him head over heels! Nothing wins a woman's heart more than a 14-minute long tutorial about how needles are mass produced!
In promotional films such as this, a story of sorts unfolded {usually, a love story- where you *KNOW* the guy and gal are going to be happy together}, inbetween the "pitch" for the manufacturer's product. Just having someone seated at a desk- with visual aids- droning on and on about how superior and vital the company's product is, made for a pretty dull sales pitch. The longer the film, the more elaborate the story unfolded.
@@fromthesidelines In the immediate aftermath of WW II, everybody in the U.S. was rushing to the altar, or being told you must get married. It was the central focus of the society during that moment.
Unfortunately, that was often the case. And sometimes, they "fell apart" {more than one newspaper printed a "CRAZED VETERAN RUNS AMOK" headline at the time}.
@@fromthesidelines No GI Bill, lots of inflation and unemployability. LBJ took young men to Vietnam with no high school diploma in many cases. Horrible practices by our powers that be. They re-impoverished a whole group.
On their 1958 LP "inner sleeves", Columbia Records printed a chart of how long osmium, sapphire and diamond needles usually lasted- 15, 50 and 1000 hours, according to them (of course, they also reminded you to check them at "your Columbia dealer".....and consider THEIR brand of needles).
But still VALID info today. In 1958, OSIUM was obsolete and dangerous as you'd forget to change and by then most machines are a bother. But earlier premium was tolerable on 78s if you changed daily after album playing. Remember during 78 era: 1++ Needles were easy to change 2+++Virtually ever record player used the .. SAME STANDARD NEEDLE. 3+++Many record players made with cups to keep needles next turntable. 4+++One cup on most machines and was marked USED.
Yes. One complete "play" of the entire record counts {anywhere from two to almost five minutes, depending on the "78"). And the "33 Long Play" record had yet to be introduced (in 1948).....and the "45 single" (in 1949).
@@fromthesidelines maybe in the UK we were a bit later getting 45 singles because I remember my older teen sister getting one of these ‘new fangled’ records in the late 50s and when she told me the great news that they were ‘unbreakable’ I as a ten year old just had to try this out by throwing it to the hard floor! It didn’t completely break but it damaged the edges quite badly, so I was in the doghouse for a long while. The irony is that the record was Neil Sedaka’s”I go ape”. Well my sister certainly went “ape” with me!
@@fromthesidelines I have a Crosley stereo that looks like an old time radio it has FM/AM radio cassette player CD player and record player it’s wooden I hope you will reply to this
By the mid-1920's, the recording industry chose the "lateral cut" method as their standard {even Edison's company started producing them before they ceased making commercial recordings in late 1929}.
EDISON hill and DALE records were called DIAMOND DISCS and played by "permeant" diamonds. When Edison produced regular 78s the used ordinary needles. In fact he called them NEEDLE RECORDS.
Talk0phone, Leeds & catlain, were hill& dale records played with steel needles also. Emerson produced UNIVERSAL RECORDS, were cut at a 45 angle as were his players, but they could also play (sort of) on both hill & dale and regular players like Victrola s Here on UA-cam there were also machine like Brunswick models that had a turnover head that could play all kinds of records Also SONORA sold machines with changinle tone arms to play them all..
One of the joys in life was going to a record store. Tower, Sam Goody, etc. Sneak over during lunch break.
wax trax
Telcom100 2nd & Charles and Target have records you can look through I hope you will reply to this
I absolutely love films like this 😭
I recall listening rooms. Truly the good old days.
One of them was prominent in a movie, as Cary Grant had Irene Dunne take an armload of records into a booth in her record shop {or rather, he did}- just so he could hear and buy records he didn't have a phonograph for, but wanted to spend more time with her- in "Penny Serenade" (1941).
Phonograph needles made of tungsten steel were available in the 1920s, these didn’t need to be changed out after every playing of a record. And now in the 21st century we can hear great orchestra and danceband recordings from even earlier days via a mouse click or a keystroke.
The CD almost made vinyl {which took the place of shellac discs by the early 1950's) obsolete- and now vinyl is making yet another comeback! And so are needle cartridges.......
I don’t trust those Tungstone needles tbh
One of the actors is Mr. Wizard!
If you mean Don Herbert as "Bill Rand", I think you may be right. 🙂
Originally released in 1945.
In 1958, the company's name was changed to "Fidelitone, Inc."- and yes, it's still in business.
Did a google search and they seem to be a logistics company now..
Right! Very few companies still make phono needles these days.
There's a company called Fidelitone not far from me. They're a logistics company, surprised they were able to use the name
I believe it's the same company.
Very interesting video. Now most the best phono cartridges are made in Japan, except for one ,Grado in Brooklyn NY. Why can't we go back to those days when the US manufactured?? Until we do,we will never be the great country we once were .
But according to Bill's tutorial on the history of needles, it was World War II's need for plane navigation that stimulated the needle making process. So where would the business be without the Japanese?
uh"Ouch !!
Wish they still produced these needles...all i find are ordinary steel ones online
You mean all this elaborate explanation was spoken off the cuff in the store to the woman this guy was interested in? Oh, she's gonna fall for him head over heels! Nothing wins a woman's heart more than a 14-minute long tutorial about how needles are mass produced!
In promotional films such as this, a story of sorts unfolded {usually, a love story- where you *KNOW* the guy and gal are going to be happy together}, inbetween the "pitch" for the manufacturer's product. Just having someone seated at a desk- with visual aids- droning on and on about how superior and vital the company's product is, made for a pretty dull sales pitch. The longer the film, the more elaborate the story unfolded.
@@fromthesidelines In the immediate aftermath of WW II, everybody in the U.S. was rushing to the altar, or being told you must get married. It was the central focus of the society during that moment.
they "dubbed-Out" the "wanna make-out" part..,,
Unless they were "making out" with a "Fidelitone" needle between them, you wouldn't see that part. 😏
That"s Tyte"!!! !!
Thanx for the interesting video.
Love these!
"It's okay, Pop! This'll make you forget all about those jitterbugs!"
(Puts on Rammstein's "Du Haus.")
Or maybe a Guy Lombardo record would lull you to sleep....... 😄
It's actually *"Du Hast."* Gern geschehen. 😉
$1 US in 1946 is now $14.28 US 2022.
5:30 "In the Air Corps, I was a Captain. Now, I'm just a clerk selling phonograph needles..."
Of course when soldiers came home from the war 25 years later, a lot of them became dependent on needles too. But not the kind that play records. 😥
Unfortunately, that was often the case. And sometimes, they "fell apart" {more than one newspaper printed a "CRAZED VETERAN RUNS AMOK" headline at the time}.
@@fromthesidelines No GI Bill, lots of inflation and unemployability. LBJ took young men to Vietnam with no high school diploma in many cases. Horrible practices by our powers that be. They re-impoverished a whole group.
I thought the gal at 5:43 looked familiar; pretty sure she's also in the "Telephone Courtesy" film from about the same era, roughly 3/4 into the film.
The prize she won was a Fidelitone needle
Sapphire and diamond were materials used later. Any method results in wear of the record.
On their 1958 LP "inner sleeves", Columbia Records printed a chart of how long osmium, sapphire and diamond needles usually lasted- 15, 50 and 1000 hours, according to them (of course, they also reminded you to check them at "your Columbia dealer".....and consider THEIR brand of needles).
But still VALID info today.
In 1958, OSIUM was obsolete and dangerous as you'd forget to change and by then most machines are a bother.
But earlier premium was tolerable on 78s if you changed daily after album playing.
Remember during 78 era:
1++ Needles were easy to
change
2+++Virtually ever record
player used the
.. SAME STANDARD
NEEDLE.
3+++Many record players
made with cups to
keep needles next
turntable.
4+++One cup on most
machines and was
marked USED.
During WW1 phonograph companies donated machines & records to military hospitals. A period correct detail.
The Pop channelling Oliver Hardy
First!:) Thanks great video!
First, already said it all!
What counts as a play? The whole record? Just a song?
Yes. One complete "play" of the entire record counts {anywhere from two to almost five minutes, depending on the "78"). And the "33 Long Play" record had yet to be introduced (in 1948).....and the "45 single" (in 1949).
@@fromthesidelines Very much appreciated.
You're welcome. 🙂
@@fromthesidelines maybe in the UK we were a bit later getting 45 singles because I remember my older teen sister getting one of these ‘new fangled’ records in the late 50s and when she told me the great news that they were ‘unbreakable’ I as a ten year old just had to try this out by throwing it to the hard floor! It didn’t completely break but it damaged the edges quite badly, so I was in the doghouse for a long while. The irony is that the record was Neil Sedaka’s”I go ape”. Well my sister certainly went “ape” with me!
That was in 1959. 🙂
Next they'll be using man made diamonds.
Good ole "cave-aphonic" sound.😁😁
BIRD NEEDLE: "I hope this is a jazz-type record! Those waltz tones put me to sleep!"
I hope y’all will reply to this I still have records and a record player
*GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!* I hope you continue to enjoy listening to them. 😃
I have many… both records and players lol
@@fromthesidelines I have a Crosley stereo that looks like an old time radio it has FM/AM radio cassette player CD player and record player it’s wooden I hope you will reply to this
Good. Just make sure you have a spare needle in case something happens to the original. 😃
French "PATHÉ" records use round sapphire on their vertically grooved records in the 20's with limited success.
YIKES !!!! edisons "Hill-&-Dale" process,,, it"s funny huh" stupid funny,,,
By the mid-1920's, the recording industry chose the "lateral cut" method as their standard {even Edison's company started producing them before they ceased making commercial recordings in late 1929}.
There were also steel needle style hill and Dale records
EDISON hill and DALE records were called DIAMOND DISCS and played by "permeant" diamonds. When Edison produced regular 78s the used ordinary needles. In fact he called them
NEEDLE RECORDS.
Talk0phone, Leeds & catlain, were hill& dale records played with steel needles also.
Emerson produced UNIVERSAL RECORDS, were cut at a 45 angle as were his players, but they could also play (sort of) on both hill & dale and regular players like Victrola s
Here on UA-cam there were also machine like Brunswick models that had a turnover head that could play all kinds of records
Also SONORA sold machines with changinle tone arms to play them all..
Don't want to needle anybody. 😁😁
The production line is amazingly labor intensive. I wonder if they were paid a living wage.. 25:34
Considering a home cost $3,000 then, and gasoline was 25 cents a gallon, I'd say they were.