If you decide to revisit this elevator you will notice that the alarm bell was recently removed which I think that at some point that they determined that it was unnecessary to have a bell that loud hooked up to a freight elevator and possibly they received multiple complaints about it going off every time that the elevator is used and it also sounds like the fire alarm going off. Although I don't work at the king of prussia mall but that's what my opinion is on them removing the alarm bell.
@@andreawinkler9651 I've ridden it. There's a video of it on my channel. Plus, Owenhinton and many others uploaded a video of it with the bell removed.
That store employee was actually quite nice, I wonder why... And now that I'm re-watching this video 13 years since it has been uploaded I realize that there weren't any security cameras in the service corridor, loading dock and freight elevator lobby. How could it have been like this ? Aren't there cameras everywhere nowadays ?
This was the sister to the former Abraham & Strauss stores at Short Hills and Willow Grove. Short Hills originally had an Otis (passenger), until it was modded by Schindler. However, the Willow Grove location had a Westinghouse, at least when it was Strawbridge's, because I remember that store when it was Strawbridge's (the Willow Grove location). Hence, this may have originally been a Westinghouse, unless the Westinghouse at the Willow Grove location was installed by Strawbridge's in 1988 when they moved in, which would have made it one of the last Westinghouses ever installed. We may never know for sure, unless we see Pennsylvania elevator records.
I'm quite happy that from all of the elevators I've used, none of them would sound an unnecessary alarm that just sounded like an annoyance. Especially because I have moderate hearing impairment and use hearing aids.
The video is uploading. They told me I shouldn't use it if I am not handling freight. ALL of the doors to the service corridors in that mall are always open...
@owenhinton yeah, I filmed it, and got stuck in it. It is in the Pavilion (former A&S/Strawbridge's), and is down the corridor between Borders and Eurocraft (former Golfdom) on 2, and between DSW Shoes and Nestology on 1. It is very hard/confusing to access on 3... Like I warned you before, DO NOT take the elevator to the 2nd floor, as you have a 95% chance of getting stuck. I wouldn't start it their either as it could get stuck as it answers your call...
That's pretty much what I get recording an elevator by a Simon (or store) employee, or no reaction. Glad it went well, except for the annoyance factor.
This be an OTIS. I have proof that Short Hills is, also A&S and opened the same year with a similar freight. The only reason that has OTIS doors and this has Courion is that OTIS doors stopped being made that year, sometime between Short Hills and here. you can put OTIS int he title BTW
This was the sister to the former Abraham & Strauss stores at Short Hills and Willow Grove. Short Hills originally had an Otis (passenger), until it was modded by Schindler. However, the Willow Grove location had a Westinghouse, at least when it was Strawbridge's, because I remember that store when it was Strawbridge's (the Willow Grove location). Hence, this may have originally been a Westinghouse, unless the Westinghouse at the Willow Grove location was installed by Strawbridge's in 1988 when they moved in, which would have made it one of the last Westinghouses ever installed. We may never know for sure, unless we see Pennsylvania elevator records.
I'm sure when Andrew slept later he probably heard "PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE. PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE." I'm just kiddin. Been a long time fan of this channel. Andrew keep up the great work.
You know what users that said about what company modernized the freight elevator, you're right. Schindler did the modernization. Besides, the door close doesn't work in which is a Schindler issue.
you should try to do a kickout video of filming in the mall (after you got your vids of the elevators) and trying to see what the guards say when they spot you
I've driven right past this mall a few times including once on my way to Boston about 10 years ago because we were going through Philadelphia and New York. I live an hour away from it.
Im still wondering to this day why these freight elevators have the vertical doors instead of the normal ones maybe its so if they have big carts like that lady had and they bang on the doors on accident it doesnt break it
I delivered in that mall for years, hated that damn thing, got stuck a lot and was slow. The other one is worse tho because people don't shut the door and then you have to run up/down the stairs to close the door to get it to work.
@@ECFE the one over by Pottery Barn kids. That could have changed because that was a few years ago but I doubt it. You had to manually close the doors or it wouldn't run.
I was in a hotel in gran canaria and all the lifts were Schindlers and the door close button worked on all the lifts And these "freight elevators" don't seem to be very reliable...
My dad has one just like this at his work except it has two doors, doesn't have a bell, doesn't have a strobe light, needs a key, doesn't have a voice and you have to open and close the big door and the chain manually.
At least the employee was a nice one. I'm planning on heading out there Wednesday. May or may not do any filming as it is a busy mall. Don't think I'll go for the freight elevator though.
Truth be told, most freight elevators nowadays have an electric eye on the door. This is so that if someone or something is blocking the door, The door will not shut on them/it.
@@ECFE, if you watched DieselDucy’s video of this elevator, the employee that got in the elevator with him mentioned that the elevator had gotten stuck “many times.” But that was back in 2009. Maybe they did fix it, or maybe not.
Did you get permission to ride the freight elevator? If you dont get permission, you will get into trouble. So never ever ride the freight elevator without permission at all.
Yesterday I accidentaly pressed call for help instead of 2. The Otis elevator company came and they didn't even check to see if it worked. it just goes to show Otis quality.
the motor is very nice but the bell could do with a replacement a remote strobe could be the best replacement because when the strobe flashes it tells staff the doors are closing instead of having that obnoxious ear-raping bell ringing in their ears all the time.
andrew you lnow you were on the phone to andrew i just watched dans video and he got stuck and he was going to 3 he stopped at thre but the elevator was a tincy wincy bit under levled
If you decide to revisit this elevator you will notice that the alarm bell was recently removed which I think that at some point that they determined that it was unnecessary to have a bell that loud hooked up to a freight elevator and possibly they received multiple complaints about it going off every time that the elevator is used and it also sounds like the fire alarm going off. Although I don't work at the king of prussia mall but that's what my opinion is on them removing the alarm bell.
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I love how people can be so supportive with our hobbies, yet I find it strange how others automatically accuse terrorism.
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The only elevator that said PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE. Too bad the voice is gone.
Not anymore. The voice and bell have since been removed.
@@Ih8kone How Do You Know
@@andreawinkler9651 There are other videos.
Please allow the doors to close
@@andreawinkler9651 I've ridden it. There's a video of it on my channel. Plus, Owenhinton and many others uploaded a video of it with the bell removed.
That store employee was actually quite nice, I wonder why...
And now that I'm re-watching this video 13 years since it has been uploaded I realize that there weren't any security cameras in the service corridor, loading dock and freight elevator lobby.
How could it have been like this ?
Aren't there cameras everywhere nowadays ?
1:32 Please allow the doors to close.
Please allow the doors to close
I LOVE THIS MAAAAAALLLL
So do I
i am looking forward to riding it. As I said in the TXT I just sent you, I will include the machine going up 1 floor as well...
This was the sister to the former Abraham & Strauss stores at Short Hills and Willow Grove. Short Hills originally had an Otis (passenger), until it was modded by Schindler. However, the Willow Grove location had a Westinghouse, at least when it was Strawbridge's, because I remember that store when it was Strawbridge's (the Willow Grove location). Hence, this may have originally been a Westinghouse, unless the Westinghouse at the Willow Grove location was installed by Strawbridge's in 1988 when they moved in, which would have made it one of the last Westinghouses ever installed. We may never know for sure, unless we see Pennsylvania elevator records.
Thanks so much for the info!
@@DieselDucy Of course.
Security manually opened the doors within 5 min of the elevator stopping...
I'm quite happy that from all of the elevators I've used, none of them would sound an unnecessary alarm that just sounded like an annoyance. Especially because I have moderate hearing impairment and use hearing aids.
It is loud.
I’m guessing the alarm bell from floor 1 just rings when the door is about to close when it’s at floors 2-3 like you can hear it from floor 1 lol
it was soo annoying.
@@DieselDucy lol yeah
The video is uploading. They told me I shouldn't use it if I am not handling freight. ALL of the doors to the service corridors in that mall are always open...
@owenhinton yeah, I filmed it, and got stuck in it. It is in the Pavilion (former A&S/Strawbridge's), and is down the corridor between Borders and Eurocraft (former Golfdom) on 2, and between DSW Shoes and Nestology on 1. It is very hard/confusing to access on 3... Like I warned you before, DO NOT take the elevator to the 2nd floor, as you have a 95% chance of getting stuck. I wouldn't start it their either as it could get stuck as it answers your call...
Oh no you got stuck on same elevator
1:32 grandpa voice
That sound like a fire bell
Kram Animations An Old-fashioned one.
It has been removed
probably because that's what its sold as
@@Undercoverelevator212-s2n **** YOU!!!
@@Ih8kone You have serious anger issues.
the lantern is wired backwards...
Andrew, many people are considering 2 as a forbidden floor due to the leveling problem.
I love the fact the lady did NOT get mad at you for riding the elevator!
Bruh , ten years ago
@@edytapolasiak1315 It is 12 now. :D
Knowing it's a SIMON mall I thought it was gonna be BAD, but the lady was nice and thats the way everyone should be. Minding her own business!
That's pretty much what I get recording an elevator by a Simon (or store) employee, or no reaction.
Glad it went well, except for the annoyance factor.
This be an OTIS. I have proof that Short Hills is, also A&S and opened the same year with a similar freight. The only reason that has OTIS doors and this has Courion is that OTIS doors stopped being made that year, sometime between Short Hills and here. you can put OTIS int he title BTW
This was the sister to the former Abraham & Strauss stores at Short Hills and Willow Grove. Short Hills originally had an Otis (passenger), until it was modded by Schindler. However, the Willow Grove location had a Westinghouse, at least when it was Strawbridge's, because I remember that store when it was Strawbridge's (the Willow Grove location). Hence, this may have originally been a Westinghouse, unless the Westinghouse at the Willow Grove location was installed by Strawbridge's in 1988 when they moved in, which would have made it one of the last Westinghouses ever installed. We may never know for sure, unless we see Pennsylvania elevator records.
The alarm was removed and the phantom voice was disabled.
I love Freight Elevators
I wonder how many people thought someone was sounding the alarm
The bell that sounded when the freight elevator door closes by the way it sounds like the simplex 2901-9333 bell on the continuos tone
I got stuck too. What did it do to you?
The alarm bell on this elevator was removed sometime in 2013 and the phantom voice was removed sometime last year.
2012 I believe and its not a alarm bell its a school bell
I'm sure when Andrew slept later he probably heard "PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE. PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE."
I'm just kiddin. Been a long time fan of this channel. Andrew keep up the great work.
You know what users that said about what company modernized the freight elevator, you're right. Schindler did the modernization. Besides, the door close doesn't work in which is a Schindler issue.
A robber comes to this building. He says to his friend ok we have to go up fast and quiet. Next second door closes and the robber just thinks OH SH**
You planned to take some retake on this one with your TX10? :)
Funny it still says "Golfdom Receiving, and they've been out of business 4 a while, it is now some furniture store...
From 0:15 to 1:30 , it feels like I'm watching "Found Footage" of a backrooms level.
Ikr?
good way to get attention with that bell
you should try to do a kickout video of filming in the mall (after you got your vids of the elevators) and trying to see what the guards say when they spot you
I've driven right past this mall a few times including once on my way to Boston about 10 years ago because we were going through Philadelphia and New York. I live an hour away from it.
I burst out of laughter after the lantern regestered as Up when Andrew pushed the down button
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lol
Thats a nice hobby.
hey andrew its a schindler. we have a lot of schindlers in fayette county,PA and some otis
@xderytuju I meant where did it stop? For Me, it stopped about 2in below the Upper Level (2) of the Mall
I did get stuck in it today lol
that is definitely a Filechia elevator
1:31 & 5:26 R.I.P Headphone Users
oh no that bell is my schools fire alarm SO ANNOYING
I bet the door open button doesn't work either
WOW! What king size of freight elevator the classic. Is pretty cool aren’t. Great videos!
Im still wondering to this day why these freight elevators have the vertical doors instead of the normal ones maybe its so if they have big carts like that lady had and they bang on the doors on accident it doesnt break it
@jimster586 yeah, and that makes it a "Sweet/Queen Hood" elevator...
I delivered in that mall for years, hated that damn thing, got stuck a lot and was slow. The other one is worse tho because people don't shut the door and then you have to run up/down the stairs to close the door to get it to work.
@@ECFE the one over by Pottery Barn kids. That could have changed because that was a few years ago but I doubt it. You had to manually close the doors or it wouldn't run.
I guess the mall don't mind people going in the service corridor area.
I was in a hotel in gran canaria and all the lifts were Schindlers and the door close button worked on all the lifts
And these "freight elevators" don't seem to be very reliable...
My dad has one just like this at his work except it has two doors, doesn't have a bell, doesn't have a strobe light, needs a key, doesn't have a voice and you have to open and close the big door and the chain manually.
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Why does that bell ring for so long? And how are you able to go to these off-limits areas without security coming after you.
He might have a elevator photographer permit that enables him to do that.
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Not likely but maybe he got permission to film or he just got lucky and there was no one there to catch him.
Normally security don't know if someone enters service corridors/areas.
He got permission
coondogtheman1234 That's a warning that the doors are closing so that the doors don't crush you.
each door also has its own floor indicator. in another video jimster said that.
That elevator needs to be modernized.
At least the employee was a nice one. I'm planning on heading out there Wednesday. May or may not do any filming as it is a busy mall. Don't think I'll go for the freight elevator though.
Truth be told, most freight elevators nowadays have an electric eye on the door. This is so that if someone or something is blocking the door, The door will not shut on them/it.
yeah they do.
Annoying as it may be, those noises serve as a warning that the doors are closing so that the doors don't crush you.
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the bell?
i'm not going there
1:32 Please allow the Doors to Close + Close alarm
1:32 PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE!!!
yep lol
I'm glad they got rid of that loud bell on floor 1 - but this lift should be modernised as the door close should work
Yeah, and the fact that this elevator often gets stuck on 2 (unknown whether or not that issue has been fixed).
That happened once. If it went on for a while it surely would have been fixed by now since tenants use this elevator for merchandise and other things
@@ECFE, if you watched DieselDucy’s video of this elevator, the employee that got in the elevator with him mentioned that the elevator had gotten stuck “many times.” But that was back in 2009. Maybe they did fix it, or maybe not.
Yes I’m aware. But that doesn’t mean it was always on the second floor
This must be a hydraulic because the sound on the way up sounds to be a hydraulic piston activating
Me too I was a fan since 2016
at what point did the elevator break I didn't see it.
6:22 The indicator on the 2nd floor is wired upside down.
It was
This video was made before when i born :0
I honetly would be finding where the bell is connected to and be disconnecting it.
4:12 The bell turns off and restarts again at 4:26
yep it does.
Did you get permission to ride the freight elevator? If you dont get permission, you will get into trouble. So never ever ride the freight elevator without permission at all.
Shut up
You would think they would of painted the walls. They do here in Australia
Isn't it just simpler to make it so the doors don't close until you push door close?
It´s maybe going in "Nudge Mode"
Yesterday I accidentaly pressed call for help instead of 2. The Otis elevator company came and they didn't even check to see if it worked. it just goes to show Otis quality.
the motor is very nice but the bell could do with a replacement a remote strobe could be the best replacement because when the strobe flashes it tells staff the doors are closing instead of having that obnoxious ear-raping bell ringing in their ears all the time.
Yes please move the strobe to the outside of the 1st floor because also we could see pulses of electricity on the wall
@DieselDucy Hey I love your videos! I have Asperger's Syndrome and I love your videos as they contain lifts (elevators
That bell is annoying
They took out both the bell and disabled the phantom voice.
Did the fire alarm go off when you pressed the button on the elevator?
+Vera Kafer it was a door buzzer.
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@xderytuju so it did the same thing to you?
To be honest I would not want to work at a place like this because it would also be annoying to have to walk through those corridors every day
are you freight?
+Dennis James I work for the rail road
the part u came out of the hallway is the court pavilion.
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*PLEASE ALLOW THE DOORS TO CLOSE*
andrew you lnow you were on the phone to andrew i just watched dans video and he got stuck and he was going to 3 he stopped at thre but the elevator was a tincy wincy bit under levled
If they had left the Otis with GAL in i’m sure it would’ve lasted forever.
Yeah totally agree!
Is this Schindler's List elevator?
10,000th sub! Great content! Loved it since 2010 before I had a channel!
I can confirm this was an Esco.
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Hey dude, why don't you stop at 1st floor. You stoped at 2nd floor.
"Please allow the door to close." The bell is like an emergency alarm.
That is really annoying!
Elevator&TrainChannel 743 Actually, the emergency alarm is on top of the car.
Despite being annoying it has an epic motor
It did
What even is the purpose of that bell??
i guess to be super annoying.
@@DieselDucy used to serve as a warning bell, until it was modernized and the doors started closing automatically, then was later removed.
I like that elevator.
I've been to the KOP mall b4
Wow. That door closing bell is annoying... How you didn't get picked up by security I'll never know :S even the staff didn't ask questions...
Annoying as it may be, those noises serve as a warning that the doors are closing so that the doors don't crush you.
TBH the scariest elevator is the one going up to Billy Penns HAT