Astonishing what Mercedes has achieved !!! Simply amazing !!! The best EV right now !! As always, superb video Kris keep it up this wonderful work !! Greetings from Barcelona ;)
Too far from best EV. Nice car yes, not bad EV yes but too far from best EV from the point of EV metrics. Just consumption/efficiency is just bad which excludes it from the "best" EV. Compared to other EVs it has worse EV metrics as well just make the effort and compare it.
Love all the snow, even if the road was snowy I'm sure Norwegian road maintenance has plenty of snow ploughs to deal with the problem unlike say if this was the UK. Bjorn has already proven driving an EV vs Petrol the times are pretty much identical. He did the petrol test in a Porsche think a couple years ago now.
Yoloing EQS in winter - nice! ☺️ Remember to let the car intelligence do the charging planning (and maybe edit charger by hand) for proper preheating to get the 200 kW. At least that is what I understand from Bjørn's tests.
Kris, I believe that a really detailed and careful comparison eith thd car you are purchasing and awaiting delivery, that would be opportune. And, if this IS the best for long distance, what about in the Centrum, right in the middle of town . . . with its rear wheel steering? And . . . On the Feast of St Stephen, from the most beautiful sunny day in Kraków, ver best wishes for health, and happiness, and for all your dreams, for you and your daughter.
“remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down”. Having uncontrolled variables make interpretation of results harder but not unscientific.
Checking the S580 4MATIC Limo technical data: V8 engine, 503PS, 76l fuel tank and for the sake of argument - 11l/100km fuel consumption (it is stated 10-11.3l/100km) gives a range of 690km before stopping is needed. Sure, not many would drive 690km without stopping at all, but it is still fully possible. And this is worst case. The 400d has a range of 850km.So, to say that the EQS is close to the ICE cars in range it strictly not true. I know many other factors are in play, but comparing like for like - the ICE cars still lead. By a lot. And, for me personally, once you’re out of range in an ICE car, it takes less than 5min to add another 690km of range. Disclaimer: I have both types of propulsion in my stable, so I have personal experience. Both types have advantages, both have disadvantages. neither do the full job.
I live in an area with severely limited charging infrastructure. For those long trips where my EQS580 might be iffy my GLS 580 will suffice, plus its a hybrid. Its 21mpg highway are not bad for a 7 seater!🤣
According to ABRP a dacia spring would do the same route in 9 hours 50 min - not bad for a car costing 10% of the EQC? And the same difference applies to tires, insurance etc..
Should have preheatet the battry Kris😉 Then you would have gotten close to 200 KW. But nice car and video 😊👌 Think we will see better times next year. ET5 with a 100 KWh battry 🥰
EQS dies not preheat the battery. I’m currently sitting at a 350kW that I navigated to after two hours of driving in 0c. My current charging speed after 10 minutes of charging is 147kW….
@@KrisRifa Björn found out that it is possible to preheat the battery, but you need to set the final destination of the trip into the navigation. If it can’t be reached without charging, it will then suggest the best charging stops and will preheat the battery ready for those charging stops. If you simply navigate to a charger, it won’t preheat.
Sadly a little disappointed with the range. As my leased car expires next year, I've started to look for alternatives. EV is the future (and the norwegian goverernment is pushing us as hard as they can down that road). But still, long distance driving in hard conditions is what frightens me. I was hoping the likes of this car and the ix 50 would be the options to go, but it seems I might have to wait longer (and then miss out on the tax evasion). Today I drove from Oslo to Trondheim, via Alvdal (RV3). The part from Elverum to Berkåk was -10 c to -20 c - happy to see most chargers at Alvdal was free. My PHEV has a small fueltank (42 L petrol) and it was not charged before leaving Oslo. I still arrived with a range of more than 200 km to go. The last part is not important, but my worry is if even the premium cars would have gotten me to the ionity charger at Alvdal with -20 c..? And with comfortable cabin temperatures and a buffer to spare, so I wouldn't be terrified of being stuck in a queue or anything. Anyone to comment and make me relaxed to choose an EV next year? Making two stops from Oslo to Trondheim is not a preffered option
Teslabjorn did the trip with EQS from Oslo to Mo i Rana and arrived at Alvdal at -14 degrees no problem. Started charging with 175 kW, too. Check it out!
I got to say this . Your range test is the most confusing one. What's wrong with a simple range test. When you charge it 100% . And go with standard speed 70 to 100 mile per hour. And see how far the car can go ? And compare it with others
Astonishing what Mercedes has achieved !!! Simply amazing !!! The best EV right now !! As always, superb video Kris keep it up this wonderful work !! Greetings from Barcelona ;)
Too far from best EV. Nice car yes, not bad EV yes but too far from best EV from the point of EV metrics. Just consumption/efficiency is just bad which excludes it from the "best" EV. Compared to other EVs it has worse EV metrics as well just make the effort and compare it.
Wow! That's a hella respectable time considering the lousy road and weather conditions. You gotta figure at least a 5% improvement on dry roads alone.
Thanks Kris,, 👍👍
Merry Christmas to you and your family too 🎄🎄🎄🙏🙏🙏🎅🎅🎅
Love all the snow, even if the road was snowy I'm sure Norwegian road maintenance has plenty of snow ploughs to deal with the problem unlike say if this was the UK. Bjorn has already proven driving an EV vs Petrol the times are pretty much identical. He did the petrol test in a Porsche think a couple years ago now.
Yoloing EQS in winter - nice! ☺️
Remember to let the car intelligence do the charging planning (and maybe edit charger by hand) for proper preheating to get the 200 kW. At least that is what I understand from Bjørn's tests.
Correct.
You need to led the car do its thing😊
I'm not a ev-driver, but I doubt the 150 kW charger would give 200 kW... He got 148-149 quite quick, I guess thats as good as it gets.
Impressive! Maybe this is the car to aspire to (for now), if money was no object?
There are no headlightwashers, that is a big shame. All cars i Norway needs that
Kris, I believe that a really detailed and careful comparison eith thd car you are purchasing and awaiting delivery, that would be opportune.
And, if this IS the best for long distance, what about in the Centrum, right in the middle of town . . . with its rear wheel steering? And . . .
On the Feast of St Stephen, from the most beautiful sunny day in Kraków, ver best wishes for health, and happiness, and for all your dreams, for you and your daughter.
The 450+ did really well in the summer. Achieving roughly 650km while at 100-110km/h. I hope you'll get the 450 in the summer
Looking forward to the Norwegian High Speed run nonstop in an EQS 450+ AMG line with 19" wheel range setup at 20 degrees. 👍
Yes I think the 450+ would probably set a new record in that test.
You guys probably know Bloch he did a test from Munich to Berlin and made it without recharching and even had 40km left in the end
@@Scrap-press fDrive cz went on a big tour around the czech republic on B roads and achieved 852.9 km afaik.
@@Scrap-press that's with appr. 500 meters loss in altitude - but still impressing.
“remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down”. Having uncontrolled variables make interpretation of results harder but not unscientific.
Good too know 😊
as a scientist, I beg to disagree with such definition!
Checking the S580 4MATIC Limo technical data: V8 engine, 503PS, 76l fuel tank and for the sake of argument - 11l/100km fuel consumption (it is stated 10-11.3l/100km) gives a range of 690km before stopping is needed. Sure, not many would drive 690km without stopping at all, but it is still fully possible. And this is worst case. The 400d has a range of 850km.So, to say that the EQS is close to the ICE cars in range it strictly not true. I know many other factors are in play, but comparing like for like - the ICE cars still lead. By a lot. And, for me personally, once you’re out of range in an ICE car, it takes less than 5min to add another 690km of range.
Disclaimer: I have both types of propulsion in my stable, so I have personal experience. Both types have advantages, both have disadvantages. neither do the full job.
So it is!
I live in an area with severely limited charging infrastructure. For those long trips where my EQS580 might be iffy my GLS 580 will suffice, plus its a hybrid. Its 21mpg highway are not bad for a 7 seater!🤣
According to ABRP a dacia spring would do the same route in 9 hours 50 min - not bad for a car costing 10% of the EQC? And the same difference applies to tires, insurance etc..
Want to impress neighbours and ladies? Get a spring and walk around with your fly constantly open, hahaha
Really great video! Question: what are those teo red flashing lights on the dash? They look extremely annoying
Only visible to the camera :) it's Infra red cameras
@@SegerGiesbers oh okay. That makes sense. Gotta look up what the IR cameras are looking at now.
@@pshillingI believe they are checking if you are paying attention to the road
Huge battery in this thing! I guess more battery means more range
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Should have preheatet the battry Kris😉
Then you would have gotten close to 200 KW.
But nice car and video 😊👌
Think we will see better times next year.
ET5 with a 100 KWh battry 🥰
i think he was using 150kw charger so that was the limit.
EQS dies not preheat the battery. I’m currently sitting at a 350kW that I navigated to after two hours of driving in 0c. My current charging speed after 10 minutes of charging is 147kW….
@@KrisRifa Björn found out that it is possible to preheat the battery, but you need to set the final destination of the trip into the navigation. If it can’t be reached without charging, it will then suggest the best charging stops and will preheat the battery ready for those charging stops. If you simply navigate to a charger, it won’t preheat.
Come on TESLA open that SC network in Norway. Coming soon !!
Sadly a little disappointed with the range. As my leased car expires next year, I've started to look for alternatives. EV is the future (and the norwegian goverernment is pushing us as hard as they can down that road).
But still, long distance driving in hard conditions is what frightens me. I was hoping the likes of this car and the ix 50 would be the options to go, but it seems I might have to wait longer (and then miss out on the tax evasion).
Today I drove from Oslo to Trondheim, via Alvdal (RV3).
The part from Elverum to Berkåk was -10 c to -20 c - happy to see most chargers at Alvdal was free.
My PHEV has a small fueltank (42 L petrol) and it was not charged before leaving Oslo. I still arrived with a range of more than 200 km to go. The last part is not important, but my worry is if even the premium cars would have gotten me to the ionity charger at Alvdal with -20 c..? And with comfortable cabin temperatures and a buffer to spare, so I wouldn't be terrified of being stuck in a queue or anything.
Anyone to comment and make me relaxed to choose an EV next year? Making two stops from Oslo to Trondheim is not a preffered option
Teslabjorn did the trip with EQS from Oslo to Mo i Rana and arrived at Alvdal at -14 degrees no problem. Started charging with 175 kW, too. Check it out!
Mercedes is Benchmark?
Mercedes shows the way for a real luxery EV :D It's only a question of money...
I got to say this .
Your range test is the most confusing one.
What's wrong with a simple range test. When you charge it 100% . And go with standard speed 70 to 100 mile per hour. And see how far the car can go ? And compare it with others
Yeah, I already do that one and it’s called “Motorway Range test” 😊🙈🤣 you’ll find a bunch of them on the channel
You need to edit out "GUYS" about 30 times. Just saying...