The fact that they did this entire operation without turning off the Steam Deck feels distinctly like “Whoops, we forgot to anaesthetise the patient before surgery”
Thats what impressed me the most, also they kept fiddling the board with a literal chunk of aluminum and screwdrivers and didn't even unplug the battery.
@@stefan514 Absolutley..... In all those Episodes so far they made soooo little out of such great tools. In Germany we say "Perlen vor die Säue" and i think it fit's here spot on. But at least they are getting there, love this Episode. There is really a usefull product coming out at the end.
@@Entertainment- yeah, I thought that as well. Besides, These episodes are awesome, and Alex designs and builds some really cool prototypes. These are literally one of my favorite series from LMG.
"What about a big heat sync?" "It's still kinda hot...What if we also added a fan?" I love that as the video goes on, they're just slowly building it back up into a gaming PC
@@Badsniperarmy Mechanical. I went through shop training not too long ago and am still in a sort of honeymoon phase with the profession. Especially since I'm in the process of getting a patent filed for the 1st product I was a major part of.
I love these types of actually not that messy modifications too. I hoped they would have milled in a dovetail to make the cooler slide in and out. They could have gone farther and added a small power connector for the fan as well.
Alex is an engineer after my own heart. Involves the boss just enough in projects to get him excited enough to dump large amounts of cash into supplying him with equipment and tooling. Excellent work.
Why it wouldnt fit when it was hot? Isnt termal expansion make it easyer to fit the thing? The back plate was hot so souldnt the expansion make the slot bigger? Im a bit confused. Why would it be easy to remove when its cold?
@@tojassargaja2085 with weird shapes come weird expansion patterns. Might just have been a couple thaus but it was enough to make the whole thing not fit properly
The best part about all of this is that steam released CAD files for the deck. So instead of cutting a hole in the rear case they could have modeled a hole in the cad file and 3D printed an entire new case.
and had a crappy looking 3d print instead of a precision molded back cover. If anything they should only have cut a hole for the cooler an not the mounting plate.
No you can't The case is a "full" 3d model used to get an idea how the Steam deck looks. These are not part level. So you don't have just the back shell seperately with screw holes etc at the correct location. Afaik no even has ever made a custom back panel for the steam deck.
@@iceghost doesn't change the fact that without the janky fan, the whole thing wouldn't have worked. I'm not saying the idea isn't great or the workmanship was bad. Just saying that the "beautiful product" the other guy was talking about is completely useless without that janky fan. 5 minutes solution or not, there is no final working "beautiful product".
Linus might not be an engineer but he is doing a great service to engineering… Linus you are getting the next gen excited about engineering and making it look as cool as it really is👍🏼 … Thank you
imo definitely one of the cooler vids ive seen lately. looked so refined by surprise, the new additions with the machines you guys have really is elevating your content
@@MrIamadon But the lower temps can allow the GPU to boost higher and for longer amounts of time, therefore it might keep up the same temperatures even. I undervolted and overclocked my 6600 XT only to keep it at the same temps, but faster and quieter.
@@MrIamadon what alot of people don't consider that lower temps from undervolting can also = higher clocks thus also = higher performance such as this. That's why under volting with a mild overclock is so awesome, more performance, less nois, less heat. Ofcourse there is a balance you have to find with the voltage and clock speed. It's easy to put an over kill cooing solution on a part and get more clocks out of it simply from it not thermal throttling, but doing all of it with just tuning is a fun project if you have the time and knowledge.
Yeah, he reminds me of someone I would have grown up with I'm from a rural part of the US, he definitely has our "screw it let's see what happens" way of life a lot of my friends have
Alex and in the last few months Dan tend to result in the video getting a watch, they definitely seem to go more into the details/engineering side of things even if that observation may not be accurate.
This is such a cool idea, the end product looks really cool. This same idea should be done on a laptop. Imagine the extra cooling and no need for elevating the laptop as the heatsinks will be doing that job.
There is that Water cooled Laptop that LTT covered. You connect reservoir and radiator outside of the laptop and there are water ports on the laptop itself.
“What’s the repeatability of your scissor cutting? Mine laser’s under a thou.” This is quite possibly the single nerdiest line Alex has ever said and I love it.
@@victorrzhang That's accuracy, not repeatability. Unless he used the wrong term, I believe he meant it will produce the same result a thousand times before it makes an error.
Not sure if Linus or Alex noticed this, but even when the temps were the same, 84C stock and 85C after, the frequency was 150mhz higher on the cooled one. The stock ran at around 1850 and the after ran around 2000.
@@liev535 actually it's using less power. If you look at the voltage, on stock it was using 1.8V to achieve those speeds and on the modded one it uses 1.6V to achieve higher clocks. This often happens when thermals are an issue. It's why sometimes undervolting your cpu when you overclock, can give you higher oc results with a good cooler.
Temps were 20c lower once they added to fan to the assembly though. With a bit more prototyping, I bet you could get a fan/heatsink assembly that goes on and comes off without any fuss. This is great for a 'proof of concept' prototype.
The Steam Deck was already a pretty "cyberpunk" device, but you've gone and made it more punk. Love it even if it's less practical! Now it's time for a miniature liquid cooling loop. ;)
5:25 For any prospective modders, note that this trick only works because the holes are the same size. If you want to make something that bridges two holes of unequal size, you just measure both holes and the maximum distance, and the center to center distance = maximum distance - (hole 1 diameter + hole 2 diameter)/2
I'll be honest, I'm really looking forward to the lab opening. While I do like to game as a hobby, doing crazy ideas and creating things out of thin air is what I really wanna see.
I love how you guys explain everything you are doing and figuring out and don't just gloss over what you're doing for these types and all types of videos.
Hands down, best engineering effort so far. Linus actually took the time to make his hole the correct size, even using such primitive tools as paper, tape, and a dremel. Hats off to you two.
The dimension in the groove should have grown with more heat. The most likely reason it went in before bolting it on is because the back is so thin when they tightened it up the groove warped slightly.
@@GregoryVeizades But it grows uniformly in all dimensions so for the slot to get smaller the walls would have to expand more than the and floor. Warpage I think is still the most likely cause.
I am actually shocked that they own a CO2 laser and do not know that you can easily cut ABS with it. If you add a nitrogen nozzle you can even get rid of (almost) all scorch marks. But it really isn't necessary if you chose your parameters correctly. I did it all the time a couple of years ago in our rapid prototyping lab at the university.
Also that they don't know how to use their laser cutter - they cut out outline before the holes so it was not held in place. You can even see it move while cutting the final hole
I know y'all are all about "going extreme", however, a straight up way to add more cooling quietly is to swap out the ole conventional fan in the Steam Deck with a Squirrel Cage variant. They produce a much greater airflow, with greater pressures, while being very quite (why A/C units use them). It would still require your retrofitting magic, but, costs and general ability for your readers to be able to follow what you are doing in their own homes is much higher.
@@georgepetrakis7703 he is probably there for a stand in for the person who knows nothing about how to do this stuff. To show that a normal steam desk user could do it.
That Linus' smirk when Alex did a flippin' 10/10 sponsor segue at the end.. He was so proud. Like a proud father who trained his boi to do segues all his life. 😂😂
If I have to guess that’s probably because of resistance I think, resistance increases with temperature, so you need more power to overcome the resistance, since the whole device got cooler, internal resistance of the transistors in the CPU got lower, which free up extra power which was then used for higher clock speed
@@STORMFIRE07 you're right but i didn't expect the internal resistance deviation at such temperature delta would be that much. i always thought it would need more temperature drop
When I lived in Austin TX I worked at Z-Bot(Tormach South effectively, we made all the cool stuff for the Tormach CNCs, tool changers, smart cool, and whatnot(We were also the southern showroom and sales)) and I had access to our shop 24/7 with 4-5 Tormach mills and a CNC lathe, and a standard lathe. Combine that with our hackerspace and I had access to all the equipment you guys have in that shop and I miss it.
I've been waiting for more content like this since they announced the "shop" and hiring of an actual engineer. A little "jank" is fun to watch here and there but this is what we need a lot more of.
!!Safety warning!! First I wanted to say I always enjoy content like this and I appreciate you guys taking time to put fun and interesting projects like this together. That being said, at 13:40 in the video it appears you used a grinding stone on the aluminum heatsink. PLEASE NEVER USE A GRINDING WHEEL FOR ALUMINUM!! Aluminum can get lodged in the porous grinding wheel and expand causing the wheel to crack or break apart causing injury. If that was a grinding wheel, please replace it and put a warning label up. Love everyone at LMG, please be safe and keep putting out the content!! 💛
Ok, I don't know everything, so I'm curious. I work with sheet metal, pretty commonly aluminum. We use grinding wheels on aluminum all the time. There are wheels specifically for grinding aluminum. Are the specific aluminum grinding wheels not good enough? Or how can you be sure they aren't using one here?
@@Hick25 that's my thought. I wouldn't even call aluminum cutting wheels "special", they're just different than steel cutting wheels. Pretty common actually.
Well it's a bigger fan theoretically so lots more airflow thus lot more cooler and quieter since it can run a bit slower. He could just have used the HR-10 Pro. It already has a fan incorporated. Heck it might even fit right where the HR-09 was. Ain't noctua quality though, for sure.
Ngl with the amount of knowledge Valve has gained from people testing and experimenting with the Steam Deck. The Deck 2 is going to be significantly better. We are in for a treat boys!!
@@klaasvaak4803 if the thermal medium is large enough it can't be heat soaked especially if you're holding onto it constantly... also if they made it slightly bulkier they could have dual fans on it near the top with a fin stack used in laptops to attempt to move heat off...
@@klaasvaak4803 I was thinking to embed heatpipes inside the casing and then you could have the chamber and fins on a bit you don't touch, maybe at the top. Also a metal one would just look cool.
The second one will be significantly more expensive, so i bet it'll be better ☺️👍. The version out now is such a steal, because it's a test balloon. Get it as long as you can... Well, if you can get your hands on one 😂
Alex: *cuts a template with a laser cutter instead of scissors* DIY Perks: *makes a PS5 slim with a jigsaw and file* Actually, I keep wondering why you guys haven't collabed yet, and I fully support it.
Might have to do something with the distance between UK and Canada. 🤷♂️ It's difficult to collaborate on a hands-on level without interacting in person.
I was here to comment the same thing! Collab with DIYPerks would be cleanest most efficient system! The engineering would outweigh distance. LTT to LMG was a long distance as well once upon a time.
Putting Linus's money spent on equipment to good use. You could see Linus's excitement at being able to do this cool stuff. I'm glad his channel and business are succeeding insanely.
Absolutely love the fact that the Steam Deck is such a great handheld for modding. I just wish they'd increase their production, will only get mine in Q3
So for anyone wondering, aluminum has very low emissivity. That's why the temperatures stayed pretty close despite strapping a big heat sink to it. Not much of the heat was being transfered to the surrounding air. However, aluminum works great when used with forced convection (fan). The rate of thermal transfer to air is significantly higher under those conditions.
I'd say very low is being rather harsh on Aluminium, not that you are wrong, I'd just not call it VERY low as out of similarly suitable mechanical properties materials its still pretty good... Also the fins on that cooler gave you lots of surface area which is good for heat transfer, but are far to close together to really cool by creating convection currents in the air - if you want passive cooling you need enough gap between the fin on the heatsink that the hot air rising can actually really pull cool air all the way through the fins (so for the natural way you hold the steam deck these fins were also in a sub optimal orientation).
Yep .... Same thing us noticed by guys like me who fabric race cars. You can put 5 aluminum rads and still overheat. Airflow is required be lt via fan or vehicle movement. Copper is def more forgiving
18:55 you could've also just put the cooling tower into the freezer for like 2-3 minutes, or let's say 5 - remember, with thermal expansion your aluminium plate widens, and in that case, so does the gap the tower had to fit in! So your goal was not to cool the plate, but actually to cool the heatsink instead! (since it would've shrunk and therefore fit into the gap much more easily) From mounting bearings onto shafts at work I do know a thing or two about this stuff xD
Honestly, I'd like to see the effects of simply using that fan on the outside of the air vent (it could be literally temporarily taped, to not leave marks), and connect it to the USB port with some soldering onto a pass-through USB extender, so it simply takes away the power (or splits it) and lets you use the rest of the USB port, like normal, just extended a bit outside the device. It could also be used with a 90-degrees USB port extender, in case that's how you want to connect to it.
Yeah pretty much like the smartphone fans they sell for gaming (without the plate some have) , I don't remember how the air flow goes on the inside of the Steamdeck but it could work
@@walkinmn At the very least, running the heatsinks in double pull configuration would be better than running it in single pull configuration. Because each fan has to do less work if working together, than if only one is working.
I was almost disappointed. Things were going well. The heatsink mount looked almost like a professional product. There was an alarmingly minimal level of jank. OMG! Say it ain't so! But then they zip-tied a Noctua fan to the heatsink. And ran an external power supply with cables everywhere. Oh thank goodness! We're back to the chaos that is Linus. Some joking aside though, so how long do you think we'll have to wait before someone from China rips off this idea and mass markets a kit? And can it come with a built-in USB hub?
I don't think you even need usb hub. Steam deck's own charging port will support the fan. Usb charging ports easily do 5w this supports SSD so it might be something like 7.5-10w even. So no problem
@@rapiddu6482 "Steam deck's own charging port will support the fan." No, not a USB hub to power the fan. I don't think the fan needs external power either. I mean a USB hub because the Steam Deck NEEDS MORE USB PORTS!!! LOL I swear, why Valve thought skimping on USB ports was a good idea, I'll never know. So while adding a big honkin' cooler to the back to turn it into the "Vapour Porch", why not include a USB hub that attaches to the back as well? The fingers on your other hand need something unfortunate to accidentally brush against too. Symmetry! LOL
As a proof of concept this is already amazing, With just a little more thought and planning, and perhaps additional thermal know-how, it could be incredible. I would actually buy a product that worked as user-friendly as this was originally envisioned.
I LOVE that Alex is wearing Adam Savage's apron. Would be awesome to see a collab one day. "Under a thou" yeaaah, I see what Alex is binging while working and off work 😆.Oh, and don't think I overlooked the pen... that I can't remember the name of but that's as accurate as you can get with a pen.
Suggestion: Take a photo of the PCB you're making parts for measure the largest chip you can find to get the scale (the larger, the lower the likely error rate) size the image to be 1:1 scale use that as your template for parts. Might let you make parts in one shot instead of more trial & error route
With a photo, you have to be careful to minimize perspective. So go far away and zoom in. They definitely have the cameras for that, but if you don't, a scanner also works perfectly. I've used that exact technique a lot of times
Seeing Linus be so enthusiastic about a Strapon after watching the LTT videos for so long and knowing he has a history of talking about Pegging, really makes me happy to be subscribed to this channel
Honestly, this seems like a sick product the LTT team could sell us on their shop. I would be so down to buy this custom cooling solution for my steam deck.
They can't sell you a hole in the back of your Steam Deck, though. So, like, you'd have to cut out the hole yourself. The rest, though, could conceivably be offered up as a kit... with a massive legal liability disclaimer attached, of course. (Although, with their equipment there, it's not really set up for mass-production, more one-off prototypes. Like, it can do it, but you can't realistically knock out a thousand of these in a day, without a massive drain on human resources... and I think they'd rather make videos.)
@@klaxoncow I agree with most of what you're saying, but what Im doubting is that thousands of people are going to order something that will ruin their Steam Deck if they dont do everything properly themselves. Like, who can safely and reliably cut a hole in their Steam Deck? They could just be made to order since they've already shown it doesn't take long but with the equipment involved the mark-up could be significant.
@@klaxoncow like with getting your brake calipers refurbed, you could send in your back plate to swap it for a back plate that has been cut already (or just have yours cut if prepared to wait longer lead times)
I love it that Alex has totally owned managing Linus. If you're an engineer running a workshop, watch this video to learn how to deal with managers. Also, major props to Alex for scamming a fricken Tormach for the kinds of jobs he's doing.
@@Grey_Winters There are none because all of that is scripted, I dont know if people like @The Antipope are serious and belive that this is their casual conversation or what. On top of that there are hardly any cases of "managing" linus
So true. He also walks linus through the long route of doing something, full well knowing that Linus will suggest the short and easy route. Letting it be his idea that saves time and energy.
id like to see someone make a replacement back for the steamdeck that gives some extra room internally for a proper heatsink and at least a 2nd fan to help move air in the tiny case. its already kinda thick on the sides and to use some of that void in the middle would make a LOT of sense to both shut the normal fan up and to make the whole system run better.
A couple videos ago Alex explained the concept of tolerance stacking, and it really did open my eyes to the potential factors/problems in these types of projects. Good shit.
"If you're cutting paper with scissors, what are you even doing? My repeatability is within .001" followed by "Setting up the router is too much work, I'm just going to hand Linus a dremel." 🤣
i feel like a good idea would be someone who takes the steamdeck back plate, scan it, then create a new form factor so it ends up being a little bigger in the middle, but you can fit a bigger fan that's quieter and/or pushes more air through the system.
This NEEDS to become a standard feature in future PC handhelds. A lot of the time these devices are used in the home. Attaching some bulk to the back wouldn't hurt. Making it removable might be a hassle sure, but it's an effort that's worth it Imo. And especially with the steam deck. My first thought seeing it was "why is this so thin?". The handles stick out pretty far anyways. I was thinking filling up that space on the back with a battery. Some people planned to mount storage devices there. But honestly, I think if they just made the chassis a bit thicker on the back, think the old apple charging case, and filled that space with heatsink, it could have genuinely improved the product with little cost aesthetically/functionally.
The handles stick out because that's more ergonomic, a full fat back would make the grip worse by a noticeable margin, and though they could probably make space for the grip by just slimming down the space between the middle of the deck and the grips but it wouldn't have looked great and there may be other issues too.
Man Alex's attitude is awesome! There is no idea that Linus throws out wanting to try, and he throws out some insane things sometimes, that even phases Alex. It is pretty cool to watch.
Crazy Idea: 3D print or CNC a new back cover in the shape of the original but in metal with copper heat piping. That way the whole back becomes the heat sink and it would look normal.
Also interesting is at 21:17 the CPU is running at higher clocks AND lower power because silicon static power goes down if temperatures are lower. Less leakage current through the transistors. Its 2.5W lower with 8% more FPS. That is almost 20% higher performance per watt.
Now we need a cold plate, call it the Cold PlayTT A dock that acts as a massive cooler, allowing not only for a cooler SOC, but also cooler VRMs and RAM for higher overall CPU/GPU frequencies
You could also replace the entire backplate with an aluminium one and use that as a giant heatsink. I'm fairly sure Valve released the 3d files for the Steam deck, so you don't even need to reverse engineer the backplate, just chonk it straight into the cnc machine.
Brilliant design and engineering from Alex. Outstanding lead into the sponsorship segment at the end. Overall a fantastic video. You've set the bar even higher going forward.
This feels like the unofficial Sketchy Heatsinks episode 4, where alex finally has all of the equipment he wanted 5 years ago.
Pretty much haha
They should bring back that series with now advanced equipment
I say they return to sketchy heatsinks made of cast aluminum. Screw the machinery
@@andrewtheabomination2371 i thought they already tried that
Left or right-handed scissors - quick to the laser.
The fact that they did this entire operation without turning off the Steam Deck feels distinctly like “Whoops, we forgot to anaesthetise the patient before surgery”
PC Building Simulator meets Surgeon Simulator.
The imperium is laughing.
"Stop yer squirmin', this gonna make you go fastah!" - Ork Painboy
Thats what impressed me the most, also they kept fiddling the board with a literal chunk of aluminum and screwdrivers and didn't even unplug the battery.
*steam deck silent screaming the entire operation*
I can not overstate how much I love these engineering type episodes.
I agree man, its so cool seeing a bunch of people make the weirdest stuff and still be functional.
Engineering is such a big word for anything Alex does 🤷🏼♂️ He has all the tools and no training
@@stefan514 Absolutley..... In all those Episodes so far they made soooo little out of such great tools. In Germany we say "Perlen vor die Säue" and i think it fit's here spot on.
But at least they are getting there, love this Episode. There is really a usefull product coming out at the end.
@@Entertainment- yeah, I thought that as well. Besides, These episodes are awesome, and Alex designs and builds some really cool prototypes. These are literally one of my favorite series from LMG.
These are 100% the best episodes
One of my favourite episodes ever, this is exactly the kind of enthusiast madness I come to this channel for
@@thelaggymonster so when do you think your dad began to suspect you were gay?
@@thelaggymonster delete this comment to save yourself the embarrassment
@@okarowarrior what did he commented though ??
The look of sheer happiness on linuses face when Alex said the line for the sponsor
The look of a proud father
Man! I didn't notice it the first time! :D ty! That smile is Gold! :v
He missed the opportunity to call it a smooth segue though
I came to post this. 😁
"What about a big heat sync?"
"It's still kinda hot...What if we also added a fan?"
I love that as the video goes on, they're just slowly building it back up into a gaming PC
This.
which IS, of course, peak performance.
I seriously wish some tablets would go back to CHONK values so they could put better heat dissipation in them.
Up
Next video, they gonna take out the whole board inside and make it into mini-PC.
Next up, liquid cooling!
Ooh, a shop episode. This is the kind of stuff that makes me happy to be an engineer, so I love seeing it here.
Oo what type if u dont mind me asking?
@@Badsniperarmy Mechanical. I went through shop training not too long ago and am still in a sort of honeymoon phase with the profession. Especially since I'm in the process of getting a patent filed for the 1st product I was a major part of.
I love these types of actually not that messy modifications too.
I hoped they would have milled in a dovetail to make the cooler slide in and out. They could have gone farther and added a small power connector for the fan as well.
@@jablue4329 Tell us about this product of yours!
These are the best with home stuff.
Alex is an engineer after my own heart. Involves the boss just enough in projects to get him excited enough to dump large amounts of cash into supplying him with equipment and tooling. Excellent work.
Somehow reminds me of Doc Brown.
I think these are my favorite types of videos from you guys, small-scale engineering and modification is always interesting to watch.
Don't read my name (((
and they have all to toys to make it happen, a dream.
Totally agree!
I love how proud Linus looked when Alex made that absolutely buttery smooth transition to the sponsor.
That scene was the birth of a great memory :')
Yeah that was awesome!
Attaboy
^This #prouddadmoment
I was searching for that comment haha
Genius, easy to remove when it's cold, stays on during use due to thermal expansion. 10/10 "It's not a bug, it's a feature"
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Both aluminium, so both expand the same. He just made them with an interference fit.
Why it wouldnt fit when it was hot? Isnt termal expansion make it easyer to fit the thing? The back plate was hot so souldnt the expansion make the slot bigger? Im a bit confused. Why would it be easy to remove when its cold?
@@tojassargaja2085 with weird shapes come weird expansion patterns. Might just have been a couple thaus but it was enough to make the whole thing not fit properly
@@tojassargaja2085 it expands in all directions not just outwards
The best part about all of this is that steam released CAD files for the deck. So instead of cutting a hole in the rear case they could have modeled a hole in the cad file and 3D printed an entire new case.
and had a crappy looking 3d print instead of a precision molded back cover. If anything they should only have cut a hole for the cooler an not the mounting plate.
@@excitedbox5705 Still that would be reversible and interchangeable.
No you can't The case is a "full" 3d model used to get an idea how the Steam deck looks. These are not part level. So you don't have just the back shell seperately with screw holes etc at the correct location. Afaik no even has ever made a custom back panel for the steam deck.
@@harmvanvliet6299 This is true. It was kind of a letdown. The CAD files weren't the step files. They were just the solid objects to work around.
Or just mill an entire aluminimum back case
I'm so amazed to see how LTT transitioned from total jank solutions to this beautiful product. Alex was a great addition to the team!
It was pretty jank at the end with the fan though
@@h5b12345 because that was the quick 5min solution
@@iceghost doesn't change the fact that without the janky fan, the whole thing wouldn't have worked. I'm not saying the idea isn't great or the workmanship was bad. Just saying that the "beautiful product" the other guy was talking about is completely useless without that janky fan. 5 minutes solution or not, there is no final working "beautiful product".
@@h5b12345 it did work without the janky fan, 20:12. The soc was running 150mhz higher at the same temp, the editor added the 13% faster note
Linus' smiles at 22:39 like "I'm so proud, he grew up so fast"
love the sponsor segues
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Finally it's here .
Came here to comment exactly this xD
Linus might not be an engineer but he is doing a great service to engineering… Linus you are getting the next gen excited about engineering and making it look as cool as it really is👍🏼 … Thank you
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22:40 I love the proud dad look linus gets anytime someone other than him nails a segue into a sponsor spot.
Linus was so proud of that, you could see him glow with joy
22:39 That face Linus makes after that flawless segue by Alex is just perfect. Bet he's thinking "you learned well, my son"
Proud dad face.
I thought the same, jus visible happiness from linus lol
Linus is SO proud!
I agree, though there is a cut there, it might be linus giving him the tip ;-)
@@minibeyse I don’t think so, there were probably just 1 or 2 seconds silence the cut removed - Linus just looks too surprised and happy
imo definitely one of the cooler vids ive seen lately. looked so refined by surprise, the new additions with the machines you guys have really is elevating your content
"cooler vids"
Pun intended? ;)
Haha.... Cooler
Wow, the +13% of performance is huge for same thermals and a bit less noise!
That by itself could be a huge marketing point!
Same can be achieved with undervolting your GPU; Give it a go when you have time!
@@KINGOFFILMSDUDE wtf obvs you get less temps with less power :D
@@MrIamadon But the lower temps can allow the GPU to boost higher and for longer amounts of time, therefore it might keep up the same temperatures even. I undervolted and overclocked my 6600 XT only to keep it at the same temps, but faster and quieter.
@@MrIamadon what alot of people don't consider that lower temps from undervolting can also = higher clocks thus also = higher performance such as this. That's why under volting with a mild overclock is so awesome, more performance, less nois, less heat. Ofcourse there is a balance you have to find with the voltage and clock speed. It's easy to put an over kill cooing solution on a part and get more clocks out of it simply from it not thermal throttling, but doing all of it with just tuning is a fun project if you have the time and knowledge.
@@MrIamadon mine now maintains a much more stable clock while losing 20W power draw and about 6c cooler; honestly try it :)
The delight on Linus’s face when Alex went to the sponsor 😆
RIGHT?! The sudden realization and the proud dad look afterwards. Haha
I just came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed it. It was amazing rofl
Linus looked like a proud dad watching his son learning from him when Alex did the sponsor transition
Damnit you beat me to it
22:38
omg yes
For me, Alex is the most relatable person at LTT. I love these projects, and watching Alex play with all his new toys.
Yeah, he reminds me of someone I would have grown up with
I'm from a rural part of the US, he definitely has our "screw it let's see what happens" way of life a lot of my friends have
Alex and in the last few months Dan tend to result in the video getting a watch, they definitely seem to go more into the details/engineering side of things even if that observation may not be accurate.
This is such a cool idea, the end product looks really cool.
This same idea should be done on a laptop.
Imagine the extra cooling and no need for elevating the laptop as the heatsinks will be doing that job.
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Finally it's here .
Could probably incorporate it into a dock as well. As long as there are accessible heat pipes in the laptop cooler, a similar approach could be used.
Yep, laptops should come with a removable bottom plate to actually prevent burns when not using cooler stand.
There is that Water cooled Laptop that LTT covered. You connect reservoir and radiator outside of the laptop and there are water ports on the laptop itself.
I was thinking the same thing!
“What’s the repeatability of your scissor cutting? Mine laser’s under a thou.”
This is quite possibly the single nerdiest line Alex has ever said and I love it.
As a laser noob and fascinated by them explain what the second part means ?
My laser is under a thousand watts?
@@venasanev thousandth of an inch in precision
1/1000 inch = 0.0254 mm
@@victorrzhang That's accuracy, not repeatability. Unless he used the wrong term, I believe he meant it will produce the same result a thousand times before it makes an error.
@@venasanev YOU WOULD HAVE FUN WHERE I WORK ,12000watts amada fiber cutter
Not sure if Linus or Alex noticed this, but even when the temps were the same, 84C stock and 85C after, the frequency was 150mhz higher on the cooled one. The stock ran at around 1850 and the after ran around 2000.
Is that good or bad?
@@aepallenp its good
@@aepallenp its good and bad, more performance, but slightly more power consumption with it.
@@liev535 actually it's using less power. If you look at the voltage, on stock it was using 1.8V to achieve those speeds and on the modded one it uses 1.6V to achieve higher clocks. This often happens when thermals are an issue. It's why sometimes undervolting your cpu when you overclock, can give you higher oc results with a good cooler.
@@aepallenp good, with additional cooling allowed the deck to reach higher clock speed since it had temp to spare.
It's cleanest and the best project I've ever seen from Alex, Temps may not be that much different but boosts are higher.
Just loved it so much
Temps were 20c lower once they added to fan to the assembly though. With a bit more prototyping, I bet you could get a fan/heatsink assembly that goes on and comes off without any fuss. This is great for a 'proof of concept' prototype.
The Steam Deck was already a pretty "cyberpunk" device, but you've gone and made it more punk. Love it even if it's less practical! Now it's time for a miniature liquid cooling loop. ;)
@@yackablejohnson1485 What would you say the best quality/price ratio one is rn?
@@yackablejohnson1485 so what "chinese-based Linux hand-held" is the most cyberpunk device out there that we haven't heard about?
So put the coolant tank on the other side to balance the system?
No it’s Steam Punk 😁
@@yackablejohnson1485 "so what "chinese-based Linux hand-held" is the most cyberpunk device out there that we haven't heard about?"
5:25 For any prospective modders, note that this trick only works because the holes are the same size. If you want to make something that bridges two holes of unequal size, you just measure both holes and the maximum distance, and the center to center distance = maximum distance - (hole 1 diameter + hole 2 diameter)/2
4:50 I love how I can tell by Alex's face that he's gonna bring up the "thermal smoo" before he even does it XD
I'll be honest, I'm really looking forward to the lab opening. While I do like to game as a hobby, doing crazy ideas and creating things out of thin air is what I really wanna see.
Thank you for the honesty
Alex your finished products have improved tremendously, this looks incredible! Props
that's what happens when you give an engineer the tools they ask for xD
@@singhtv1911 Ok I won't
@@singhtv1911 Ok I won’t
I love how you guys explain everything you are doing and figuring out and don't just gloss over what you're doing for these types and all types of videos.
This is one of the only times I’ve seen Alex not complete half-baked try something and I’m here for it.
That's because they actually have the tools they need for once.
desk PC and fan desk were also very nicely put together
Hands down, best engineering effort so far. Linus actually took the time to make his hole the correct size, even using such primitive tools as paper, tape, and a dremel. Hats off to you two.
Between the "So today I'm making your strap-on?" and "It's like a dremel, but with balls" Alex is on fire today lmao
The whole LTT team seem to be always ... in a great mood, like they do it a lot lol !
Haha I made the likes 609!
I almost fell over when Alex said " I'm making your strap-on?" Then the look Linus gives us just TOPPED it OFF !!! Hilarious !!! LTT at it's BEST!
22:38 I laughed my ass off and had to watch that a few times. The smile on Linus' face is priceless.
The man si proud
Bruh i came here to comment this. Took the words out of my mouth 😂
popped down to the comments to talk about it lmao
@@galahad38
Alright, you go first 😃
in linus' head : NOW THAT'S MA BOI
When your tolerances are so tight that you can actually PRESSFIT the heatsink to the plate, that's how you know you're doing precision machining.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. Cool it off and shove it in. Good job boys.
The dimension in the groove should have grown with more heat. The most likely reason it went in before bolting it on is because the back is so thin when they tightened it up the groove warped slightly.
As a very long-time view of LTT, it's like I'm watching the wrong channel or something.
Why is this working, and WTF channel am I on?!
@@TomDetka Metal expands in all dimensions. So the groove will get smaller when the whole mass is heated vs localized heating.
@@GregoryVeizades But it grows uniformly in all dimensions so for the slot to get smaller the walls would have to expand more than the and floor. Warpage I think is still the most likely cause.
Alex: What’s the repeatability of your scissors?
Also Alex: just cut a hole in the back of a Steam deck by hand, yolo lol
To be fair the hole was cut after using said non-scissored stencil for marking the cut.
I am actually shocked that they own a CO2 laser and do not know that you can easily cut ABS with it. If you add a nitrogen nozzle you can even get rid of (almost) all scorch marks. But it really isn't necessary if you chose your parameters correctly. I did it all the time a couple of years ago in our rapid prototyping lab at the university.
Also that they don't know how to use their laser cutter - they cut out outline before the holes so it was not held in place. You can even see it move while cutting the final hole
the smile linus gave when alex said "what will never burn you out" 22:39
🤣🤣 i though i was the only one who noticed that LOL, linus was like like that duo in school that they know when a joke was getting setup
I know y'all are all about "going extreme", however, a straight up way to add more cooling quietly is to swap out the ole conventional fan in the Steam Deck with a Squirrel Cage variant. They produce a much greater airflow, with greater pressures, while being very quite (why A/C units use them).
It would still require your retrofitting magic, but, costs and general ability for your readers to be able to follow what you are doing in their own homes is much higher.
Really nice seeing an Employer ask and learn with his employees, these are always such a fun watch
LTT should be a worker coop at this point.
Linus should not appear in these episodes. He didn't do any work (just video shots). He appears only for the +++ views because he is Linus.
@@georgepetrakis7703 well its his channel, and hes their boss
@@georgepetrakis7703 he is probably there for a stand in for the person who knows nothing about how to do this stuff. To show that a normal steam desk user could do it.
That Linus' smirk when Alex did a flippin' 10/10 sponsor segue at the end.. He was so proud. Like a proud father who trained his boi to do segues all his life. 😂😂
what's more interesting is the power usage actually almost the same while frequency went up a bit. it's running a bit more efficient
If I have to guess that’s probably because of resistance I think, resistance increases with temperature, so you need more power to overcome the resistance, since the whole device got cooler, internal resistance of the transistors in the CPU got lower, which free up extra power which was then used for higher clock speed
@@STORMFIRE07 You sir, you're correct. If you cooled it down to -150 degrees, it would run around 100% more efficiently (+ or - 20%).
@@GeneralZimmer superconducting
@@STORMFIRE07 you're right but i didn't expect the internal resistance deviation at such temperature delta would be that much. i always thought it would need more temperature drop
When I lived in Austin TX I worked at Z-Bot(Tormach South effectively, we made all the cool stuff for the Tormach CNCs, tool changers, smart cool, and whatnot(We were also the southern showroom and sales)) and I had access to our shop 24/7 with 4-5 Tormach mills and a CNC lathe, and a standard lathe. Combine that with our hackerspace and I had access to all the equipment you guys have in that shop and I miss it.
I swear that the cooling/sketchy heatsink videos with alex are my favourite ones! Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see the lab up and running!
For me it's because he's usually stone cold when he's doing those too. As if it's a "ya, who wouldn't do it this way?" kinda deal!
Yes! whenever Alex is involved I know its gonna be good, love these cooling videos especially :D excited for the lab to be up and running!
I've been waiting for more content like this since they announced the "shop" and hiring of an actual engineer. A little "jank" is fun to watch here and there but this is what we need a lot more of.
Agreed, this is the fun stuff!
Indeed! This is the good stuff!
!!Safety warning!! First I wanted to say I always enjoy content like this and I appreciate you guys taking time to put fun and interesting projects like this together. That being said, at 13:40 in the video it appears you used a grinding stone on the aluminum heatsink. PLEASE NEVER USE A GRINDING WHEEL FOR ALUMINUM!! Aluminum can get lodged in the porous grinding wheel and expand causing the wheel to crack or break apart causing injury. If that was a grinding wheel, please replace it and put a warning label up. Love everyone at LMG, please be safe and keep putting out the content!! 💛
Ok, I don't know everything, so I'm curious. I work with sheet metal, pretty commonly aluminum. We use grinding wheels on aluminum all the time. There are wheels specifically for grinding aluminum. Are the specific aluminum grinding wheels not good enough? Or how can you be sure they aren't using one here?
Alex is a pretty smart guy and i would think he mostly works with aluminium, so it would most likely be a specialty wheel for aluminium
Woah... I did not know that - I guess you learn something new everyday.
@@Hick25 that's my thought. I wouldn't even call aluminum cutting wheels "special", they're just different than steel cutting wheels. Pretty common actually.
Silicon carbide wheels are used for grinding aluminum
Getting rid of the fans by adding a fan was a genious idea.
Well, they did drop it like 20c. That’s huge.
Well it's a bigger fan theoretically so lots more airflow thus lot more cooler and quieter since it can run a bit slower. He could just have used the HR-10 Pro. It already has a fan incorporated. Heck it might even fit right where the HR-09 was. Ain't noctua quality though, for sure.
Ngl with the amount of knowledge Valve has gained from people testing and experimenting with the Steam Deck. The Deck 2 is going to be significantly better. We are in for a treat boys!!
Solid alloy casing with built in heat pipes is the way forward just for extra awesomeness.
@@ollianddelphine wouldnt that just get the entire thing hot as hell?
@@klaasvaak4803 if the thermal medium is large enough it can't be heat soaked especially if you're holding onto it constantly... also if they made it slightly bulkier they could have dual fans on it near the top with a fin stack used in laptops to attempt to move heat off...
@@klaasvaak4803 I was thinking to embed heatpipes inside the casing and then you could have the chamber and fins on a bit you don't touch, maybe at the top. Also a metal one would just look cool.
The second one will be significantly more expensive, so i bet it'll be better ☺️👍. The version out now is such a steal, because it's a test balloon. Get it as long as you can... Well, if you can get your hands on one 😂
Alex: *cuts a template with a laser cutter instead of scissors*
DIY Perks: *makes a PS5 slim with a jigsaw and file*
Actually, I keep wondering why you guys haven't collabed yet, and I fully support it.
Might have to do something with the distance between UK and Canada. 🤷♂️ It's difficult to collaborate on a hands-on level without interacting in person.
I was here to comment the same thing! Collab with DIYPerks would be cleanest most efficient system! The engineering would outweigh distance. LTT to LMG was a long distance as well once upon a time.
Funny, I just thought about why I haven't heard LTT even mention DIY perks when I saw his slim video come up my feed.
@@SamAsMe theyve talked about him on wan show i believe
Putting Linus's money spent on equipment to good use. You could see Linus's excitement at being able to do this cool stuff. I'm glad his channel and business are succeeding insanely.
Absolutely love the fact that the Steam Deck is such a great handheld for modding. I just wish they'd increase their production, will only get mine in Q3
I hear you I'm Q4 getting so tired of looking at my email she's supposedly they're coming a little early
@@jamestorres3262 Well, I just got mine today, so their predictions are really accurate at least
A detachable heatsink like this as an add on would be a cool idea.
@@InservioLetum you do know that you can engineer a mount? 3rd parties with more time could totally make this an actual product
@@InservioLetum So?
@@InservioLetum Cope.
The problem is a thermal expansion
@@abdulmuhaimin5274 thermal expand some bitches
So for anyone wondering, aluminum has very low emissivity. That's why the temperatures stayed pretty close despite strapping a big heat sink to it. Not much of the heat was being transfered to the surrounding air. However, aluminum works great when used with forced convection (fan). The rate of thermal transfer to air is significantly higher under those conditions.
I'd say very low is being rather harsh on Aluminium, not that you are wrong, I'd just not call it VERY low as out of similarly suitable mechanical properties materials its still pretty good... Also the fins on that cooler gave you lots of surface area which is good for heat transfer, but are far to close together to really cool by creating convection currents in the air - if you want passive cooling you need enough gap between the fin on the heatsink that the hot air rising can actually really pull cool air all the way through the fins (so for the natural way you hold the steam deck these fins were also in a sub optimal orientation).
Yep .... Same thing us noticed by guys like me who fabric race cars. You can put 5 aluminum rads and still overheat. Airflow is required be lt via fan or vehicle movement. Copper is def more forgiving
Although you have a point, it's not the cause. The deck thermal throttled to 1700MHz during the first test, with heatsink it ran at 2000MHz.
18:55 you could've also just put the cooling tower into the freezer for like 2-3 minutes, or let's say 5 - remember, with thermal expansion your aluminium plate widens, and in that case, so does the gap the tower had to fit in! So your goal was not to cool the plate, but actually to cool the heatsink instead! (since it would've shrunk and therefore fit into the gap much more easily)
From mounting bearings onto shafts at work I do know a thing or two about this stuff xD
22:40 Linus' face killed me 🤣 I think he really dug Alex's sponsor segue.
It was amazing, he looked so proud haha
dude, i think we all dug that seque, i love Alex, he delivers everything so dry its just all the more funny.
Honestly, I'd like to see the effects of simply using that fan on the outside of the air vent (it could be literally temporarily taped, to not leave marks), and connect it to the USB port with some soldering onto a pass-through USB extender, so it simply takes away the power (or splits it) and lets you use the rest of the USB port, like normal, just extended a bit outside the device. It could also be used with a 90-degrees USB port extender, in case that's how you want to connect to it.
Yeah pretty much like the smartphone fans they sell for gaming (without the plate some have) , I don't remember how the air flow goes on the inside of the Steamdeck but it could work
@@walkinmn they had a fan attachment for the xbox 360 that hooked onto the vent and shot the air forwards
@@walkinmn At the very least, running the heatsinks in double pull configuration would be better than running it in single pull configuration. Because each fan has to do less work if working together, than if only one is working.
Someone should try this and report back to see if it actually works cuz if it does, when I get my steam deck I will do it!
Linus in 2025: putting a fan on a fan to cool the fan
liquid cooled fans are coming
There sometimes is a fan on the fan's motor...
Fans that are cooled by other fans which are cooled by water that are cooled by
Linus tech tips moment
na man he gonna heat a fan so he can then cool it
LTT has many fans 😎
I'm nerding out over that shop more than the Steam Deck mod, that super organized tool chest is just *chefs kiss* beautiful.
Linus: "In place ish"
Really getting technical with this one
22:37 Linus smiles like a proud father when the Segway to the sponsor was soooo smooth
you guys should be proud of the quality of your work here. its nice to see the growth from the first things you made.
so cool watching Linus and his team grow over the years. you guys are doing amazing things for the tech community.
I was almost disappointed. Things were going well. The heatsink mount looked almost like a professional product. There was an alarmingly minimal level of jank. OMG! Say it ain't so!
But then they zip-tied a Noctua fan to the heatsink. And ran an external power supply with cables everywhere. Oh thank goodness! We're back to the chaos that is Linus.
Some joking aside though, so how long do you think we'll have to wait before someone from China rips off this idea and mass markets a kit? And can it come with a built-in USB hub?
I don't think you even need usb hub. Steam deck's own charging port will support the fan. Usb charging ports easily do 5w this supports SSD so it might be something like 7.5-10w even. So no problem
@@rapiddu6482 i think it was a joke about chinese products always having usb hubs but i might be dumb too
I was going to suggest a USB-C passthrough for power... Might take a bit of electronic smarts, but can disconnect easily when you remove the heatsink
@@rapiddu6482 "Steam deck's own charging port will support the fan."
No, not a USB hub to power the fan. I don't think the fan needs external power either. I mean a USB hub because the Steam Deck NEEDS MORE USB PORTS!!! LOL I swear, why Valve thought skimping on USB ports was a good idea, I'll never know. So while adding a big honkin' cooler to the back to turn it into the "Vapour Porch", why not include a USB hub that attaches to the back as well? The fingers on your other hand need something unfortunate to accidentally brush against too. Symmetry! LOL
As a proof of concept this is already amazing, With just a little more thought and planning, and perhaps additional thermal know-how, it could be incredible.
I would actually buy a product that worked as user-friendly as this was originally envisioned.
I LOVE that Alex is wearing Adam Savage's apron. Would be awesome to see a collab one day. "Under a thou" yeaaah, I see what Alex is binging while working and off work 😆.Oh, and don't think I overlooked the pen... that I can't remember the name of but that's as accurate as you can get with a pen.
Suggestion: Take a photo of the PCB you're making parts for
measure the largest chip you can find to get the scale (the larger, the lower the likely error rate)
size the image to be 1:1 scale
use that as your template for parts.
Might let you make parts in one shot instead of more trial & error route
With a photo, you have to be careful to minimize perspective. So go far away and zoom in. They definitely have the cameras for that, but if you don't, a scanner also works perfectly.
I've used that exact technique a lot of times
@@onebacon_ perspective distorsion definitely gets worse as the lens gets closer, especially with cellphone cameras. That zoom technique is a good tip
Seeing Linus be so enthusiastic about a Strapon after watching the LTT videos for so long and knowing he has a history of talking about Pegging, really makes me happy to be subscribed to this channel
wait a second, what?
yeah, what?
Man, all these 1/250, 1/500 of an inch just make me appreciate the beauty of metric even more.
who even thinks of dividing 2.54 cm by 500
americans are ridiculous
@@ydid687 it dates back to a time where a precision fit was viewed as "adjusted to the nearest foot" XD
@@jean-charlesweyland129 but that was metric's job wasn't it i.e. to replace the British yard, furlong stone system
@@ydid687 Yes but regular people continued to use the units that they were familiar with and suited their needs.
@@jean-charlesweyland129 sounds like something that dinosaurs would do
This would actually be a great item to sell on the LTT store !
I’d buy it.
i think there is a very low volume of people having a steam deck and wanting the item, nontheless its an amazing video
Or just sell a service to mail our decks in for a cooling upgrade.
Yeah this would be great as part of a dock.
I'm still waiting on the full on anti static gimp suite
Might be my favorite video here. Love seeing the machinery in use and linus and Alex learning, playing, and inventing.
Honestly, this seems like a sick product the LTT team could sell us on their shop. I would be so down to buy this custom cooling solution for my steam deck.
They can't sell you a hole in the back of your Steam Deck, though. So, like, you'd have to cut out the hole yourself.
The rest, though, could conceivably be offered up as a kit... with a massive legal liability disclaimer attached, of course.
(Although, with their equipment there, it's not really set up for mass-production, more one-off prototypes. Like, it can do it, but you can't realistically knock out a thousand of these in a day, without a massive drain on human resources... and I think they'd rather make videos.)
@@klaxoncow just include a back plate with the cooler. Be worth the extra to be able to swap back to oem.
@@klaxoncow I agree with most of what you're saying, but what Im doubting is that thousands of people are going to order something that will ruin their Steam Deck if they dont do everything properly themselves. Like, who can safely and reliably cut a hole in their Steam Deck? They could just be made to order since they've already shown it doesn't take long but with the equipment involved the mark-up could be significant.
@@klaxoncow like with getting your brake calipers refurbed, you could send in your back plate to swap it for a back plate that has been cut already (or just have yours cut if prepared to wait longer lead times)
@@alexdobma4694 this is why people can hire other people to do the risky™®© stuff
I love it that Alex has totally owned managing Linus. If you're an engineer running a workshop, watch this video to learn how to deal with managers. Also, major props to Alex for scamming a fricken Tormach for the kinds of jobs he's doing.
What are some of the highlights of Alex managing Linus?
@@Grey_Winters There are none because all of that is scripted, I dont know if people like @The Antipope are serious and belive that this is their casual conversation or what.
On top of that there are hardly any cases of "managing" linus
Shhh
So true. He also walks linus through the long route of doing something, full well knowing that Linus will suggest the short and easy route. Letting it be his idea that saves time and energy.
id like to see someone make a replacement back for the steamdeck that gives some extra room internally for a proper heatsink and at least a 2nd fan to help move air in the tiny case.
its already kinda thick on the sides and to use some of that void in the middle would make a LOT of sense to both shut the normal fan up and to make the whole system run better.
Honestly a back plate that is just a 100mm fan would probably do a ton even without a heatsink.
And it'd be a built-in stand to boot!
The most useful thing ive ever heard on this channel was alex's advice on how to measure between the center of two holes with calipers.
22:37 Linus spontaneous reaction freaking love it
One of the coolest projects you've done for me. This is so freaking awesome
From 1st sketchy heatsink to this, damn you guys really went a really long way, good job.
A couple videos ago Alex explained the concept of tolerance stacking, and it really did open my eyes to the potential factors/problems in these types of projects. Good shit.
"If you're cutting paper with scissors, what are you even doing? My repeatability is within .001" followed by "Setting up the router is too much work, I'm just going to hand Linus a dremel." 🤣
The smile from Linus at the end when they cut to the promo looked like a proud dad moment lol .
Gotta love Alex's Adam Savage workshop apron. also great vid
Glad i am not the only person who spotted that.
The apeon means business. If it comes on, stuff is about to get serious. 💪
i didn't even know Mr. Savage sells an apron as a merchandise..nice.
i feel like a good idea would be someone who takes the steamdeck back plate, scan it, then create a new form factor so it ends up being a little bigger in the middle, but you can fit a bigger fan that's quieter and/or pushes more air through the system.
That shop is SICK. Love this “Tool Time”-esque episode. I was Tim the Tool Man grunting throughout, great work, fellas!
This NEEDS to become a standard feature in future PC handhelds.
A lot of the time these devices are used in the home. Attaching some bulk to the back wouldn't hurt.
Making it removable might be a hassle sure, but it's an effort that's worth it Imo.
And especially with the steam deck. My first thought seeing it was "why is this so thin?". The handles stick out pretty far anyways. I was thinking filling up that space on the back with a battery. Some people planned to mount storage devices there. But honestly, I think if they just made the chassis a bit thicker on the back, think the old apple charging case, and filled that space with heatsink, it could have genuinely improved the product with little cost aesthetically/functionally.
The handles stick out because that's more ergonomic, a full fat back would make the grip worse by a noticeable margin, and though they could probably make space for the grip by just slimming down the space between the middle of the deck and the grips but it wouldn't have looked great and there may be other issues too.
@@RomitHeerani I don't think you understand. I'm not saying make a full back, I'm saying add a hump in the middle of it.
Yeah, I think some sort of cooler charger combo (maybe in form of a dock) will be standard in portable gaming devices soon.
It's nice seeing you guys having the right tools to make stuff like this happen. Looks great!
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Finally it's here .
It would be interesting to see a dock with extra cooling like this built in.
Linus was so proud when Alex mące the segway 22:43
That dremel at 13:23 sound both like something used by a pit crew and my worst nightmare at a dentist's office
Man Alex's attitude is awesome! There is no idea that Linus throws out wanting to try, and he throws out some insane things sometimes, that even phases Alex. It is pretty cool to watch.
Crazy Idea: 3D print or CNC a new back cover in the shape of the original but in metal with copper heat piping. That way the whole back becomes the heat sink and it would look normal.
And would also burn the hell out of your hands.
22:39 Linus has such a proud look after Alex's sponsor transition :-D
These are the best videos, I love to see you guys doing engineering things and learning your way through
Also interesting is at 21:17 the CPU is running at higher clocks AND lower power because silicon static power goes down if temperatures are lower. Less leakage current through the transistors.
Its 2.5W lower with 8% more FPS. That is almost 20% higher performance per watt.
the cores were running at a higher clock with less utilization as well as more fps, this was a crazy good job, Good job Linus and alex!
Now we need a cold plate, call it the Cold PlayTT
A dock that acts as a massive cooler, allowing not only for a cooler SOC, but also cooler VRMs and RAM for higher overall CPU/GPU frequencies
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Finally it's here .
You could also replace the entire backplate with an aluminium one and use that as a giant heatsink. I'm fairly sure Valve released the 3d files for the Steam deck, so you don't even need to reverse engineer the backplate, just chonk it straight into the cnc machine.
So what you're saying is they 100% could do a gold steam deck?
It probably makes WiFi signal interferences...
*aluminum
*reverse-engineer
*CNC-machine
3 strikes, and you're ouch. I mean out.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 aluminium is correct spelling in British English.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 Because i'm not American? that's pretty racist now, isn't it?
Adam Savage's workshop apron. Did not realize that was an actual product. Nice!
15:57 bro pulled out the gru voice
Brilliant design and engineering from Alex. Outstanding lead into the sponsorship segment at the end. Overall a fantastic video. You've set the bar even higher going forward.
You could see how proud of that sponsor segue Linus was lol
@@MrPhooey442 He certainly was. Training paid off bigtime.