So... what exactly was the flaw that was really a benefit? I didn't see you cover anything like that, unless you're implying it's the fact that they're unmanaged which isn't a "flaw" at all and is simply the type of switch.
Thank you. From the purchase reviews on amazon some were complaining about the once a day shutdown of the switch and resets itself. Did you encounter anything similar with both the 2T and 2S?
Anyways I bought and returned mine as it is constantly disconnecting. STH has many alternatives at much lower prices these days. Landed myself with seekerstor's 2x10g + 4x2.5g and no issues at the moment. Could get under USD 50 direct from tb.
I rewatched the video all over and was waiting for the flaw that was benefit. 😂 Anyhow, I'm torn between this and TP Link SX-105. But just a quick question. When you restart your router, do you also need to restart the switch as well. My current TP link SG-105 needs me to do it, if not it will not have any Internet signal on my router.
The flaw is that it's unmanaged. For non-tech users, this can be a benefit. I do not need to reboot the switch when I reboot my router. No switch should require that.
Well do they pass through VLAN tags unmodified? I mean the main use for such a switch in a home setup obviously is in between your normal 1 Gig switches and to the occasional device that supports 10 Gig.
This is a a pretty good option but i think in the long run the MikroTik CRS305 is probably a better buy since it has 4 10 gig ports and 1 1gig Ethernet port. 1 gig switches cost almost nothing and there is a pretty good chance that anyone interested in a 10 gig switch probably has a 1gig switch hanging around somewhere. so the real question here is does this switch have a reasonable advantage over the MikroTik?
It's 6 ports instead of 5. 2x 10Gb and 4x 2.5Gb. It runs cool and uses a lot less power. Many devices now use 2.5Gb (AP, motherboards, NAS, etc). Plus many, many places have 5 or 5e ethernet already in walls, which 2.5Gb works with. Microtik with SFP adapters costs a lot and gets really hot. In fact they recommend only 2 sfp to ethernet adapters max in that switch due to overheating. I don't know many homes with fiber runs to each room. What wrong with qnap, is no management.
how good is the cooling for SPF+ modules? i use a MikroTik 10G fiber module and a 10G copper module... but the 10G copper module runs VERY HOT and needs increased cooling of the SFP cage - that high temperature is normal behaviour for that SPF+ module and they even have a separate documentation page for thermal management for it.
I don't have any heat problems with my copper SFP+ modules. The power draw change when plugging the module in and getting link was less than 1 watt, which isn't huge. The module does get hot but it always works for me.
hmm.. i wonder how it would do with a MikroTik S+RJ10 module - it has a power consumption of 2.7 W - their PDF brochure says 2.4 W but then the "general guidance" page specific for this model says 2.7W and that the transceiver itself can heat up to 90 degrees Celsius while this being considered "normal" operation. This is why i'm searching for something that can actually dissipate heat from these... i think i'll eventually go with getting an industrial-type switch, just for the heat dissipation.
@@PubliusHadrianus - You could also get a cheap AC-to-PC fan-header cable, connect a fan or two and it'd probably make a dramatic diff since there's 0 active cooling to start. The larger switches still have no way to cool transceivers even if their body is actively cooled.
I have a friend who runs a small business, (4 workstations, 2 NAS) he's about to make the jump from 1Gbit running off the ISP router to 10Gbit- this seems like a pretty good fit but it's one port short. Any suggestions?
The QNAP QSW-M408S looks good. Only $450AU from Scorptec. It does require SFP+ modules bought separately but I expect two of the three modules can be Multimode fibre modules at only $34AU each from FS.com.
You could just buy 2 of them if you don't need more than 2 10G ports, they are not very expensive. Just patch both switches together on one of the 10G ports. If you run 2.5G to the workstations or other devices, you shouldn't have to worry about packet loss with CAT5e. Even if you needed 3x 10G ports, buying 3 of them is still pretty inexpensive for 3x 10G and 15x 2.5G ports.
euhhmmm... Internet is not on the 10 Gb port ? At 0.40, you connect the internet on a 2.5 Gb port avec you want a 10Gb for NAS and PC 1 ? This is normal or I don't undertood ?
Most home internet connections are 1Gbit or less. The 2.5Gbit port will be sufficiently fast for almost all people. If you have a 10Gbit Internet connection then you are not likely to be interested in this switch.
These are the future. But I think in the current implementation the CPU and RAM is too less for really using these high demanding networks. I have seen reports that performance on Mikrotik breaks down as soon as you have one of the fast ports under load. And here with Qnap I hear some disconnects. If you are using it basically for 1GB this is no problem. But somehow it is not yet reliable. On Mikrotik I also hear the management software becomes unusable because it is too demanding and you have to go back to the smaller one of the two systems they have (rout and switch OS). This is only hearsay.. I did not buy it.. just what I am thinking that it is not yet prime time. Might be good to report your issues to the manufacturer if you have them and in 1 year these type of 2.5 and 10GB switches will be amazing.
Thanks for the tip, these switches seems nice. And pulling the prices down. More than 20 years that Gbps is the cheap norm. And since then, 2.5 / 5 / 10 Gbps is still so expensive. Unfortunately, it seems very hard to get one of them for less than 200 € in France. Jeff Bezos needs a new yacht ?
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So... what exactly was the flaw that was really a benefit? I didn't see you cover anything like that, unless you're implying it's the fact that they're unmanaged which isn't a "flaw" at all and is simply the type of switch.
Yes, the flaw is that it's unmanaged. But you are right, unmanageability is as much a classification as it is a feature (or lack of one).
Short, clear, concise. Thank you!
I have one of these on my desk, brings SFP+ fibre from my rack to my desk ! Very nice switch..
Thank you. From the purchase reviews on amazon some were complaining about the once a day shutdown of the switch and resets itself. Did you encounter anything similar with both the 2T and 2S?
I use both switches 24 * 7 and I have never had the switch shutdown or reset itself. They have been rock solid for me.
10GB side on mine resets once every minute when its under a load
Anyways I bought and returned mine as it is constantly disconnecting. STH has many alternatives at much lower prices these days. Landed myself with seekerstor's 2x10g + 4x2.5g and no issues at the moment. Could get under USD 50 direct from tb.
I rewatched the video all over and was waiting for the flaw that was benefit. 😂
Anyhow, I'm torn between this and TP Link SX-105.
But just a quick question. When you restart your router, do you also need to restart the switch as well. My current TP link SG-105 needs me to do it, if not it will not have any Internet signal on my router.
The flaw is that it's unmanaged. For non-tech users, this can be a benefit. I do not need to reboot the switch when I reboot my router. No switch should require that.
@@matthewdaley7535 thanks for replying. Yeah I find it strange as well.
Well do they pass through VLAN tags unmodified? I mean the main use for such a switch in a home setup obviously is in between your normal 1 Gig switches and to the occasional device that supports 10 Gig.
Has a "flaw" that it has a loopback protection. My mesh network ethernet back haul will not work through this switch. I have the TP-Link Deco X60.
It’s not compatible to mesh wifi access points, like Eero or similars. ( loop prevention functionality )
This is a a pretty good option but i think in the long run the MikroTik CRS305 is probably a better buy since it has 4 10 gig ports and 1 1gig Ethernet port. 1 gig switches cost almost nothing and there is a pretty good chance that anyone interested in a 10 gig switch probably has a 1gig switch hanging around somewhere. so the real question here is does this switch have a reasonable advantage over the MikroTik?
Well, the 2T version runs on Cat 5E or 6a cabling, which is a lot cheaper than using SFP adapters.
It's 6 ports instead of 5. 2x 10Gb and 4x 2.5Gb. It runs cool and uses a lot less power. Many devices now use 2.5Gb (AP, motherboards, NAS, etc). Plus many, many places have 5 or 5e ethernet already in walls, which 2.5Gb works with. Microtik with SFP adapters costs a lot and gets really hot. In fact they recommend only 2 sfp to ethernet adapters max in that switch due to overheating. I don't know many homes with fiber runs to each room. What wrong with qnap, is no management.
@@fwiler thanks I missed the fact that the Ethernet ports were 2.5 gig.
how good is the cooling for SPF+ modules? i use a MikroTik 10G fiber module and a 10G copper module... but the 10G copper module runs VERY HOT and needs increased cooling of the SFP cage - that high temperature is normal behaviour for that SPF+ module and they even have a separate documentation page for thermal management for it.
I don't have any heat problems with my copper SFP+ modules. The power draw change when plugging the module in and getting link was less than 1 watt, which isn't huge. The module does get hot but it always works for me.
hmm.. i wonder how it would do with a MikroTik S+RJ10 module - it has a power consumption of 2.7 W - their PDF brochure says 2.4 W but then the "general guidance" page specific for this model says 2.7W and that the transceiver itself can heat up to 90 degrees Celsius while this being considered "normal" operation. This is why i'm searching for something that can actually dissipate heat from these... i think i'll eventually go with getting an industrial-type switch, just for the heat dissipation.
@@PubliusHadrianus - You could also get a cheap AC-to-PC fan-header cable, connect a fan or two and it'd probably make a dramatic diff since there's 0 active cooling to start. The larger switches still have no way to cool transceivers even if their body is actively cooled.
I have a friend who runs a small business, (4 workstations, 2 NAS) he's about to make the jump from 1Gbit running off the ISP router to 10Gbit- this seems like a pretty good fit but it's one port short. Any suggestions?
The QNAP QSW-M408S looks good. Only $450AU from Scorptec. It does require SFP+ modules bought separately but I expect two of the three modules can be Multimode fibre modules at only $34AU each from FS.com.
I use Cisco so I can sleep at night.
If this is one port short than get a bigger switch ? Thats all. Of course the price will be higher.
You could just buy 2 of them if you don't need more than 2 10G ports, they are not very expensive. Just patch both switches together on one of the 10G ports. If you run 2.5G to the workstations or other devices, you shouldn't have to worry about packet loss with CAT5e.
Even if you needed 3x 10G ports, buying 3 of them is still pretty inexpensive for 3x 10G and 15x 2.5G ports.
@@andrewt9204 - How would you connect them to get to 3x10gb unless they can only speak via a 2.5gb port?
euhhmmm... Internet is not on the 10 Gb port ?
At 0.40, you connect the internet on a 2.5 Gb port avec you want a 10Gb for NAS and PC 1 ? This is normal or I don't undertood ?
Most home internet connections are 1Gbit or less. The 2.5Gbit port will be sufficiently fast for almost all people. If you have a 10Gbit Internet connection then you are not likely to be interested in this switch.
These are the future. But I think in the current implementation the CPU and RAM is too less for really using these high demanding networks. I have seen reports that performance on Mikrotik breaks down as soon as you have one of the fast ports under load. And here with Qnap I hear some disconnects. If you are using it basically for 1GB this is no problem. But somehow it is not yet reliable.
On Mikrotik I also hear the management software becomes unusable because it is too demanding and you have to go back to the smaller one of the two systems they have (rout and switch OS).
This is only hearsay.. I did not buy it.. just what I am thinking that it is not yet prime time.
Might be good to report your issues to the manufacturer if you have them and in 1 year these type of 2.5 and 10GB switches will be amazing.
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Thanks for the tip, these switches seems nice. And pulling the prices down. More than 20 years that Gbps is the cheap norm. And since then, 2.5 / 5 / 10 Gbps is still so expensive.
Unfortunately, it seems very hard to get one of them for less than 200 € in France. Jeff Bezos needs a new yacht ?
Corporate greed!!! 😂