It is not every South African who shares the views of Ramaphosa, and it is sad that we will all suffer because of his and other members of our government's actions
True the other half of the country would gladly sell their soul to the American Empire for their handouts...... who should care about Palestinian children?
@@carolinelouiseprinsloo-sb7fe So can you tell me where in the world does it work differently,all socalled democracies work like that, people make their choice, and that becomes the gov of choice, and if you dont agree with their choice, 2 options, you go with the choice of the majority, or you pack up and go where you think all is perfect, like yours, mine is also just an opinion.
@@vicmarx-sl5xz Oh yes white south africans after 30 years of ANC rule are accepted with open arms worldwide. Name one country that accepts white south africans. Please I beg you.
ANC (South African Government) i.e. Ramaphosa needs to STEP DOWN COMPLETELY!!! We South Africans have had enough of the crime, unemployment, mismanagement, lack of affordable housing, etc etc. We were all better off during the Apartheid era !!!
Maybe South Africa should first solve its own domestic problems, like rampant crime, derelict infrastructure and youth unemployment, before interfering in other countries' affairs.
Perhaps you don't know how the world works. But each country has a foreign policy which is set in place to help the country and its citizen. Each Gov department should be doing its job, you can't expect our foreign ministers to build road now, do you? Go complain to those ministers for not doing their jobs.
2025 let's pray for all South Africians and the rest of the world. We need God in our lives to make this world a better place. Too much pain and suffering taking place and little justice.
Africans don't need God to help them solve problems. Their leaders/looters are greedy and selfish particularlly those in Nigeria an oil producing country.
@@mannetjie3704 I don't get it. Ramaphosa isn't arrogant? I'm afraid, there is a big gap between the view of Trump and many Republicans and this South-African regime. You can call him a bully, but that doesn't help. By the way, I'm not American and my American family aren't Trump supporters. I've done business with SA for about forty years. I've in-laws in SA. I'm from a mixed family. This has given some problems in the past. The apartheid hasn't disappeared. This regime is corrupt. The commentators are often prejudiced as well. It is a dangerous country to live in, this pear of Africa. My daughter visited Cape Town and my cousins visit Cape Town, Johannesburg and other cities on a regular basis to organize festivals.
We're in agreement from for different reasons. You want agoa participation to end to punish SA for its foreign policy, we want it to end to maintain the independence of our foreign policy from the US. So you'll find that both sides agree...😊
I DO NOT AGREE. WE SUFFER UNDER THE ANC. THERE ARE NO JOBS, EVEN OUR HEALTH INSTITUTIONS LIKE SAVE HOSPITALS ARE SO POOR AND ARE NOT MANAGE WELL. BECAUSE RAMAPOSA STANDS FOR THE TERRORISTS EVERYBODY SUFFERS UNDER THE POOR DECISIONS HE MAKES. HE IS LIKE BIDEN A BAD PRESIDENT AND ONLY CARES FOR HIMSELF AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF SA. MAY GOD BLESS US WITH GOD FEARING LEADERSHIP.
My knee will NOT bow to jzeus, nor my tongue confess. Been there, done that. Study & u'll see how "NT" & church doctrine corrupted & did sacrilege to Gd's Holy Tanakh! That passage is a corruption of Isa.45:21-25. Lit everything in "NT" is a corruption!
Hope you had the same energy for apartheid regime, the biggest corrupters. Apartheid was the base of corruption, not to mention their evil beliefs of Psychopaths and narcissists.
@@papaomphile5094 It was a so called struggle, so much so that white voters had to come to the rescue of the ANC and to vote in favour of dismantling apartheid.
As a black person am not surprised, the racism that pervades these commentaries disguised as ANC criticism can leave the mind befuddled😂.@@papaomphile5094
I would not like to see my country SA suffer, but it's high time, they must see corruption don't pay, crime don't pay, God alone could help us, and He only will decide SA future.
In his final term Ramaphosa goes out without any meaningful contribution to the country. I can't name a single new national item crafted by him except siding with countries begging for support over wrong choices leading to unnecessary wars.
1st off it's not Trump who threatens South Africa it's Anc Policy. 2nd we have not been eligible for the favourable trade agreement with America for years now. 3rd they have been letting our breaching the terms for years now and the Anc act as though they entitled to it.
Well, they are entitled to it. You pretend as if the USA doesn't benefit from AGOA. If they want to close the taps, they should do so immediately. as they have no right of telling us what to do just like we have no right of telling them what to do. I am very happy with the ANC stance on this, although I will never vote for them. By the way the AGOA agreement expires in 2025, so it looks like its going to be an interesting year.
😂😂😂i see alot of Africans celebrating here while forgetting that once economy of South Africa is pressured by USA then south Africa the country won't be able to host millions of Africans and middle East people.......a downfall for south Africa isn't good to Africa and Middle East
@@movementmathebula828 do you know why they put sanctions on south Africa Let me tell you it was against apartheid therefore if Mr Nelson Mandela was not released they would put sanctions on SA
AMERICAN administration never was a friend of the oppressed in South Africa, they supported apartheid and still doing the same. America need as more than we need them ,GET OUT
Is it or mayb ur mismanaged. Outsiders commends south africa for its stance and u locals sell out. Ur part of the problem..probably u believe in the american dream.
ANC is not anyone's enemy. America wars is to protect the interest of the world finance mogul. Any country that threatens the dominance of the United States of America dollar is rendered as a terrorist. Look what Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and the war in Ukraine, BRICS is a serious threat to the owners of the Bank that funded revolutions and wars. The creature from jekyll Island
The problem is the pie is open for everyone to eat but only a few have chosen to partake from it. If we all eat, we all do better but the poor will suffer even more
Panama, Greenland, tarrifs, south Africa, Elon musk and vivek, brics, china etc all before he's even inaugurated. This coming 4 years will be interesting.
After 30 years of running the country ANC could not do anything, the country is worse off what is the chance that after America pulls out things will get better, a laugh at those that think things will get better.
How shortsided you are....I doubt they'd dare unless it is another Libya they want. These are all smoke&mirrors and in my humble opinion an intentional push for worldwide chaos to favour the few
I'm a south African and really do not share the government views and policies. I'm ashamed of their choices as it's never beneficial to the citizens, but only their own pockets. 😢
Many of us are ashamed of our government here. I pray that God speaks to their hearts this year and they LEAVE BRICS and repent and ask God to forgive their hypocrisy!!!!!!
There's a saying: you are known by the friends you keep and I definitely don't like Russia, China and especially not Iran. The IRGC is on the brink of collapse, they certainly won't last, one thing I'm in favor of. It's appalling that we hosted hamas and hezbollah in our country especially after what they did on Oct 7. Russia forcefully removed 20 000 children from their families and relocated them to anywhere in Russia. And then there's China, them you can't even trust as far as you can throw them.
As president Paul Kagame of Rwanda said, "AID is more political than anything else in the world". Once you get used to it, it is like a drug with serious side-effects the moment you try to quit it. It was meant to treat you but Doctor Sam was a businessman enough to tell you half the story so you can keep coming back. Love from your Rwandan brother 🇷🇼❤🇿🇦.
@@Uuu29-fy2vc I absolutely don't get the metaphor...Maybe you want to say that Kagame likes bananas a lot? Well, I like them too, super sweet but on the healthy side.
@@PhansiKhongoloza😂😂😂 please don't ask the question. Uncle Cyril will appoint a 30 man team that is way overpaid with no background experience to look into the matter. You will have the answer in 4yrs time 😂😂 There are a helluva lot of civilians that could give the answer in +-15 seconds tho.
South Africa would have been better off if it stayed quiet and keep focused on their internal problems rather than trying to portray as a world super power.
When the blind follows the blind they all will fall into the hole. God will not ever be mocked. God will protect his children, the one's who bless Israel. He who blessis Israel will be blessed and he who curses Israel will be cursed. This is God who says this not a mortal. Wake up people.
Yes, should Trump go through with this, many South Africans will suffer because of it and it will serve the country right and maybe the current government will finally wake up but I doubt it and I am from South Africa and I don’t have any faith let alone, trust in the government.
This guy says Trump is a "con man and a bully", but I would also do the same thing if a country was cozying up to my enemies. What exactly did Ramaphoza expect? He must tread carefully now. Millions of lives are at stake!
"the enemies" are not SA enemy. When I say SA, I mean the real ones, not the artificial ones. On the contrary the enemies of the existence of Africans are the real enemies of SA.
Hi Redsky Alice, don't pay much attention to this Bond fellow. He's only a Ramaphosa / ANC puppet and I guess he gets paid well for it. He has no idea what the result of cuddling up with enemy Nr 1 of Israel is.
@redskyalice2529 The deleter is at work again. My 2nd try. Pay no attention to this Bond fellow. He is a puppet of Ramaphosa and his party. I guess he gets paid well for it. He has no idea what the result of going against the Nr.1 nation of this Planet is. He think Trump makes these decisions, but there is one Book that he has never read. Edit: The Nr.1 nation is the one that was taken to the I.C.J by Ram.... for defending themselves against Ram's friends who wear something like a checkered racing flag around their necks.
Never say never. For as long as Africa, China, and Russia belive that nothing, absolutely nothing is cast in stone, they will not stop forging this alliance that is forming. Everything regarding the ingredients of this alliance is on the table.
As a South African, pls. note we already suffer tremendously, still down into the dark deepest evil and no end or light in sight - That is why I agree with President Trump. We may suffer a bit longer - but it will end, there will be light again. Like I've said, we are already at our worst off, only a fraction of our capability. It time men of character, strength and honesty take contoll of South Africa as a whole. All our diverse people suffer under crime, no work/jobs, scercly food on our tables. What future do we have now - NOTHING AT ALL. May GOD ALMIGHTY unite all our diverse beautiful people together, we know the ANC and their evil partners (Russia, China, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.)do not like that. May we learn from American, they didn't listen to the Biden's Camp evil lies - they united under President Trump - beautiful diverse under President Trump. May GOD bless American and South Africa.
Don has no idea about anything to do with Africa. But as regards South Africa, he will listen to only one man - who knows South Africa (from an ap@rtheid perspective) - Musk. South Africa's goose is cooked.
Mandela sided with Hamas despite Hamas's 1987 charter calling for the global massacre of Jews and It's pro-Hitler stances on the final solution. Mandela sided with the wrong people on plenty of foreign diplomacy matters.
To hell with dictates of the west so called powers. USA IS FOOLED BY DENIAL. EVERY EMPIRE IS PRONE TO FAILURE ESPECIALLY THAT OF SHEER STUPIDITY. IT IS STUPID FOR USA TO IMAGINE ITSELF AS OUR ALMIGHTY!!!
SA is already in deep deep financial problems. Getting pushed over edge may indeed cause SA to civil wars and/or anarchy. SA should be finding ways to rehabilitate the power grid and solving crime instead of playing chess with world powers.
Trump is neither a bully or a con man. He is a superb negotiator. He talks straight and politicians hate that. I am South African and if I were Trump, based on how the government of SA have treated The USA over the past 10 years, I would also pull those agreements. Why support countries who allign with your enemies. Its simply dumb.
Trump's bluster is simple... it is an announcement that the U.S. is adopting an America First policy. South Africa has an SA First policy, as shown by BRICS, so this is both countries adopting the same view on their foreign policy relationships.
@@renskejansenvanvuuren2830 not all is corrupt in every nation there are bad people so dont be races aswell do you think jesus is races so follow his teaching and try to be a better human
@@julietbwalya2344The only God who created the Universe. The One who was crucified and paid for the sins of the world and the One who says if you repent of your sins and believe in His Name, you will be saved. His name is Jesus Christ!
@@loganathannaidoo2421 Say you don't know! You mean, you haven't noticed the many meetings that have been taking place between SA and China. There are rumours that China wants some of its major industries to move to South Africa. Why do you think Ramaphosa is pushing so hard for the Africa Free Trade Agreement? He wants to increase trade between SA and other African countries. He recently met the Nigerian and Angolan presidents and also visited Algeria. SA is also focusing more on other Asian countries now. That is the plan. I think he's had enough of the threats. By the way, if they isolate us, we also withhold our minerals.
US were suffering because of their leaders idiotcracy. The US should pay their 35 trillion dollars debt to other countries....Ramaphosa are already re alligned with Russia and China known as BRICS. The US think their hegemony could still exist, but no more. South Africa was no longer in negotiation with US because of sanctions and South Africa knows it.
I am a South African and believe: if you don't listen, you must learn. We can not even sort out our own country, but we interfere with Israel. We do not agree with our government, but we do not have a say.
Ap@rth3id apologist, westerners benefit far more in agoa than what they would have you think. They cannot produce their own goods locally at a competitive price. They us not the other way around. Australia is calling yall
SA is more dependant on the West than the East nations that includes Iran being part of BRICS. Trump is a wise man and can influence SA econmu negatively if he choses so! SA needs investments to create jobs for the millions unemployed! Can BRICS offer that? Ramaphosa is being managed by Putin! 😢😢
And, btw, how long will the DJT presidency last ? More than 48 months ? What then for South Africa ? Hopefully Mr Ramaphosa & South Africa will not choose the ticket to ride along with an unstable, self seeking, bully bouncing Potus 47. Stay strong, President Ramaphosa, the S A Leadership & All citizens in the Republic of South Africa. 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Yes SA can go forward. The are people in South Africa that like western countries alot. Remember alot of Germans and all those western are in South Africa. So by leaving America. Its them who will have difficult time more than those like Asia side with African countries
My white Dutch European ancestors were religious refugees who escaped persecution from the Catholics by coming to the south of Africa in the mid 1600's. There was not a brick or a road or a book in the vast, untamed wilderness that South Africa then was. Only small groups like the Khoisan roamed south of the Kei River. Africans arrived north of the Kei - only 100 years before the Whites. That's history, but it seems nobody bothered to inform themselves first before attacking us. The Europeans brought their skills and culture to build this land into a prosperous country, then they suffered the Boer War under the British where thousands of Afrikaans women and children perished in British concentration camps. The British destroyed the newly established civilization in one of their brutal colonialist wars. We survived that horror and went on to build a flourishing economy. Then the UN started meddling and the early leftist media came up with the dividing concept of 'apartheid' and promoted that to the world much as they did with BLM and wokeness now. The government's original intention in fact, was separate cultural development (we were then clearly multi cultural with various tribal areas and cultures to protect.) Because of the vitriolic attacks, and the relentless sactions by the West, the prosperous white minority handed over administration to the communist aligned ANC who wanted it all - including the area south of the Kei. They got their way and now we suffer again because of the ANC's racist black empowerment policies and their BRICS alliance. The world pushed us to hand over administration to the ANC - this total disaster is the result. ±22,000 people are murdered in our country every year - many being white farmers and their families - brutally slaughtered. The EFF black radicals chant "Kill the Boer" openly at their rallies. So for the ANC to stand up for Palestine against Israel - once an ally of South Africa - demonstrates their bigotry. They used the U.S. and Europe via the UN to give them billions to end 'apartheid' - only to stab the West and Israel in the back now. Even the original so called 'apartheid' government in South Africa at that time gave these cultural groups billions for self development, but all that visibly happened, was that all the chiefs bought themselves huge black Mercedez Benz cars in those days. Nothing went to infrastructure in the various chief/kingdoms. Nothing much has changed - like the millions in cash recently found stashed in Ramaphosas couch in Namibia. Perhaps it was a gift from Palestine? Who knows. Most white and some black South Africans support the Trump-led Republican Party in America. Instead I suggest Trump must support the few remaining white people in South Africa in business who are keeping the economy going despite unfair, racist Black empowerment policies. Our once pristine infrastructure is collapsing fast - roads, railways, airline, harbours, business, the exceptional educational system - everything we built, is going to the ground fast. We're just tired of politics and unfairness. Most black and white South Africans get on well, but the radical politicians constantly stoke the fires of hate because that is how they remain in power. Religious and political deologies are dangerous. It will be the end of us all.
All depends on who gave you the history facts.Still you have to be responsible, productive and humain.If everyone in SA will be responsible, productive and humain.we will be ok Ask your friends if they are.The world don't owe you, instead you are responsible for your children s future @deanfraser419
I definitely saw it coming! Suing Israel, joining Bricks was a direct declaration with US! In my mind SA isnt strong enough for the risk they took! Now he has to choose between Bricks and USA relations, he chooses USA he loses Bricks relations, either way! Do not touch Israel! He made the biggest mistake for South Africa
When us Christians tell U about Israel and God,U don't listen.Now we cursed.May God help us Christians who support Israel from those sick Arabs who kill their own children.
And yet the administration is getting involve in international politics that they don't have the economic, political and military strengths to handle, they just want to use South Africa against the west, South African people should reject it.
Ramaposa better help the people in SA instead of meddling in other countries affairs. Israel 🇮🇱 has no choice but to defend itself from attacks from different directions. What would countries like SA do, but then again Ramaposa doesn’t care about his people but himself. 🇬🇧
SA politicians took money from Iran to take Israel to the ICJ and they join Brics,2025 the heat is going to turn up in SA for the ordinary citizens coz of greed and corruption
Mozambique was a peaceful country until they discovered oil, all hell broke loose and we know who behind the chaos those who destroyed Libya Syria, Iraq and many other countries for their resources
I have a South African riddle.
If cyril ramapoza and julius malema were stranded on an island, who would survive?
South Africa!
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It's time for Pres. Trump to fix Rampies up! He dragged our country through the mud! We NEED TRUMP!!!
Deeply embarrassing for SA, bought with it's pants down , in alignment with Russia and China
@@liancoleneTrump is a joke and useless.He must fix his own country which he can't do.
No survivors 😂😂😂
It is not every South African who shares the views of Ramaphosa, and it is sad that we will all suffer because of his and other members of our government's actions
True the other half of the country would gladly sell their soul to the American Empire for their handouts...... who should care about Palestinian children?
@@carolinelouiseprinsloo-sb7fe So can you tell me where in the world does it work differently,all socalled democracies work like that, people make their choice, and that becomes the gov of choice, and if you dont agree with their choice, 2 options, you go with the choice of the majority, or you pack up and go where you think all is perfect, like yours, mine is also just an opinion.
@@vicmarx-sl5xz Oh yes white south africans after 30 years of ANC rule are accepted with open arms worldwide. Name one country that accepts white south africans. Please I beg you.
your probably white from the old south africans who benefited from the old apartheid system and probably a Zionist...just a calculated guess
A friend from South Africa told me that Putin and Ramaphosa are lovers.
As a South African, I can reassure you that Ramaphosa probably the most disliked man in South Africa.
One of the Top 10 indeed.
I agree with you… Cyril should stick his nose in sa soil and not jn other countries business
As if it worries him..!!!?
Naas Malema en Lesufi en nog so n paar ander!!!
HELLEN ZILLE IS THE MOST DISLIKED MAN IN S AFRICA. ..DA IS SUPPORTED BY THE GENO-CIDAL ZIO= NASTIES THAT IS BANKRUPT NOW
ANC (South African Government) i.e. Ramaphosa needs to STEP DOWN COMPLETELY!!! We South Africans have had enough of the crime, unemployment, mismanagement, lack of affordable housing, etc etc. We were all better off during the Apartheid era !!!
Absolutely
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Maybe South Africa should first solve its own domestic problems, like rampant crime, derelict infrastructure and youth unemployment, before interfering in other countries' affairs.
Perhaps you don't know how the world works. But each country has a foreign policy which is set in place to help the country and its citizen. Each Gov department should be doing its job, you can't expect our foreign ministers to build road now, do you? Go complain to those ministers for not doing their jobs.
With a name like Pete , you must know a lot about South Africa
Maybe the same can be said for America. Solve your own domestic problems and stop trying to run the world.
Trump should mind his business.
He's in a fight restoreing Freedom with other victims of USA..SOOOOOO!!! they don't need USA..DUMDUMD
Good! We are sick and tired of the ANC and Ramaphosa’s cronies living like kings while the people starve and face criminals and crime on a daily basis
You hear ANC and immediately decide to block everything out. This is bigger than that... This is a question of USA's bullying tactics....
USA and the west helped getting the ANC in power. What is their problem now?
@lebo343 And China, Russia, North Korea and Iran are Not Bullies.??
Yes but the issue is that it’s not the fat cat government officials who suffer but rather the people instead
as much as we're getting sick of being told what to do and what not to do by the USA. Trade is a two way stream by the way.
2025 let's pray for all South Africians and the rest of the world. We need God in our lives to make this world a better place. Too much pain and suffering taking place and little justice.
Africans don't need God to help them solve problems. Their leaders/looters are greedy and selfish particularlly those in Nigeria an oil producing country.
Exactly. Pray for the farmers who are in the greatest danger in SA.
We also need to take a stand against the satanic rule currently running our country. No use asking God for help but loving satan at the same time.
Prayer alone is not enough. People need to be spiritually mature.
We need good and responsible leaders God gave us power to change things already not prayers baba.
Good!!! The same Ramaphosa told Trump to leave SA alone way back. Now his arrogant attitude will come back with a vengeance
Trump is a village idiot.
the irony. go look up the definition of arrogance.
@@mannetjie3704 I don't get it. Ramaphosa isn't arrogant? I'm afraid, there is a big gap between the view of Trump and many Republicans and this South-African regime. You can call him a bully, but that doesn't help. By the way, I'm not American and my American family aren't Trump supporters. I've done business with SA for about forty years. I've in-laws in SA. I'm from a mixed family. This has given some problems in the past. The apartheid hasn't disappeared. This regime is corrupt. The commentators are often prejudiced as well. It is a dangerous country to live in, this pear of Africa. My daughter visited Cape Town and my cousins visit Cape Town, Johannesburg and other cities on a regular basis to organize festivals.
We're in agreement from for different reasons. You want agoa participation to end to punish SA for its foreign policy, we want it to end to maintain the independence of our foreign policy from the US. So you'll find that both sides agree...😊
Yes excastly....TRUMP is bac with a back lash ...
South Africa's ( the ANC ) wants its bread butterred on both sides.
Won't work while Trump will be boss of the world
Absolutely agree.
Unfortunately its a cultural thing, they are always standing with cupped hands for a hand-out but their policies support terrorism and chaos
Not SOUTH Africa but Ramaposa. He didn't give us any choice. He chose for us all. We do not stand with the terrorists
I wonder when will African leaders stop being beggars.... while we have all the minerals. May Africans unite under African Indigenous Spirituality
I am from S A...SHOCKING....GOD BLESS OUR LAND....JESUS REIGNS IN SA..EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO YOU JESUS.🙏🌺❤🙏🙏
I DO NOT AGREE. WE SUFFER UNDER THE ANC. THERE ARE NO JOBS, EVEN OUR HEALTH INSTITUTIONS LIKE SAVE HOSPITALS ARE SO POOR AND ARE NOT MANAGE WELL. BECAUSE RAMAPOSA STANDS FOR THE TERRORISTS EVERYBODY SUFFERS UNDER THE POOR DECISIONS HE MAKES. HE IS LIKE BIDEN A BAD PRESIDENT AND ONLY CARES FOR HIMSELF AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF SA. MAY GOD BLESS US WITH GOD FEARING LEADERSHIP.
My knee will NOT bow to jzeus, nor my tongue confess. Been there, done that. Study & u'll see how "NT" & church doctrine corrupted & did sacrilege to Gd's Holy Tanakh! That passage is a corruption of Isa.45:21-25. Lit everything in "NT" is a corruption!
Hi Mommy. Yes it's shocking!!!
Yes, but Jesus hates sin. SA. ANC hates Israel. Trump loves Israel. Sorry SA. It's time to get on the good side of History. Good on Trump.
The anc is the biggest problem South Africa has, it's lasted to long. They will always support those that helped them in there so called struggle.
to the detriment of the country
Hope you had the same energy for apartheid regime, the biggest corrupters. Apartheid was the base of corruption, not to mention their evil beliefs of Psychopaths and narcissists.
"the so called struggle" are you out of your mind? That's disrespectful
@@papaomphile5094 It was a so called struggle, so much so that white voters had to come to the rescue of the ANC and to vote in favour of dismantling apartheid.
As a black person am not surprised, the racism that pervades these commentaries disguised as ANC criticism can leave the mind befuddled😂.@@papaomphile5094
ANC the problem
I like,I like, they thought they were untouchable. Thank you Mr. Donald Trump!!
Oh please Trump will not control South Africa
All the aid ($$$) goes to Ramaphosa's couch anyway.
Qatargate
It’s not by mistake they found piles of dollars
It's not South Africans that is supporting Hamas it's the ANC
100% agree with you
Majority ANC, so it's South Africa
No the anc is not the majority.
Yes The ANC
@@corneliapeters7877 ANC is the majority. I'm sure they had more votes than DA, EFF, MK, etc
As a South African, it is high time someone stands up and tup this spineless Ramapohsa in his place.
Prez Trump, not every person in S/Africa is ANC
So be it. Ramaphosa must take responsibility.
He don't care
It is long overdue. The ANC should instead fix the mess they have created in RSA.
Open your eyes Ramaphosa!!!!!
You need to open ur eyes....stop eating up US propaganda. No one can choose our friends for us not even ur beloved USA.
Time for RAMAPHOSA Anc government to pay for their bad choices suffer the consequences
Thank you Jesus bring justice to the sane civilians of South Africa. Enough is enough.
I would not like to see my country SA suffer, but it's high time, they must see corruption don't pay, crime don't pay, God alone could help us, and He only will decide SA future.
In his final term Ramaphosa goes out without any meaningful contribution to the country. I can't name a single new national item crafted by him except siding with countries begging for support over wrong choices leading to unnecessary wars.
There's a huge lack of knowledge/research that will a leave number of very red faces, when reality comes home to roost.
1st off it's not Trump who threatens South Africa it's Anc Policy.
2nd we have not been eligible for the favourable trade agreement with America for years now.
3rd they have been letting our breaching the terms for years now and the Anc act as though they entitled to it.
Well, they are entitled to it. You pretend as if the USA doesn't benefit from AGOA. If they want to close the taps, they should do so immediately. as they have no right of telling us what to do just like we have no right of telling them what to do. I am very happy with the ANC stance on this, although I will never vote for them.
By the way the AGOA agreement expires in 2025, so it looks like its going to be an interesting year.
Your 3 points are not facts
One word for Trump and the US... BRICS
Like always
@makteko Mr. Trump can make us go under, I will rather we survive
Good! I am a south african, but this govermany who stand with evil will pay the price!!!
The biggest evil is USA
😂😂😂i see alot of Africans celebrating here while forgetting that once economy of South Africa is pressured by USA then south Africa the country won't be able to host millions of Africans and middle East people.......a downfall for south Africa isn't good to Africa and Middle East
american buys most of their minerals from south africa
Are U delusional 😂
@@movementmathebula828 do you know why they put sanctions on south Africa
Let me tell you it was against apartheid therefore if Mr Nelson Mandela was not released they would put sanctions on SA
They will get it elsewhere.@@blist14ant
Yah so keep laughing and Celebrating and watch how much faster the Foreigners get chased out of the country
Great please get him out as our President as he is a liar and a thief and we are suffering badly in South Africa
South Africa's foreign relations is just one more thing mismanaged by the ANC government.
being puppets and yes man is the proper management..??NO
AMERICAN administration never was a friend of the oppressed in South Africa, they supported apartheid and still doing the same. America need as more than we need them ,GET OUT
Entirely untrue
Is it or mayb ur mismanaged. Outsiders commends south africa for its stance and u locals sell out. Ur part of the problem..probably u believe in the american dream.
ANC is not anyone's enemy. America wars is to protect the interest of the world finance mogul. Any country that threatens the dominance of the United States of America dollar is rendered as a terrorist. Look what Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi and the war in Ukraine, BRICS is a serious threat to the owners of the Bank that funded revolutions and wars. The creature from jekyll Island
And we all will suffer. The crooks have stored enough food to see them through.
The problem is the pie is open for everyone to eat but only a few have chosen to partake from it. If we all eat, we all do better but the poor will suffer even more
I am not at all surprised.
South Africa's views are like a pot calling the kettle black.
Blame the late Nelson Mandela, he open the BOARDERS & took the death penalty away
lol shut up. You are not an African. You designed nonexistent African "countries" 80 years ago. In reality Africa is only 7 KINGDOMS!
Wonderful about time that the world see what is happening in South Africa in
Panama, Greenland, tarrifs, south Africa, Elon musk and vivek, brics, china etc all before he's even inaugurated. This coming 4 years will be interesting.
After 30 years of running the country ANC could not do anything, the country is worse off what is the chance that after America pulls out things will get better, a laugh at those that think things will get better.
How shortsided you are....I doubt they'd dare unless it is another Libya they want. These are all smoke&mirrors and in my humble opinion an intentional push for worldwide chaos to favour the few
Ja they are the reason South Africa is where it is. They are arrogant fools. South Africa is in no position to think we will be better off without US
BRICS ❤❤❤
🇷🇺🇿🇦❤️
South Africa is part od BRICS
I'm a south African and really do not share the government views and policies. I'm ashamed of their choices as it's never beneficial to the citizens, but only their own pockets. 😢
really? SA prefer US over BRICS?
@@Somuchtosay-l3uYES I DO PREFER USA OVER STUPID BRICS!!!!!AND FU.. THE REST,NOBODY WILL DICTATE TO ME
Many of us are ashamed of our government here. I pray that God speaks to their hearts this year and they LEAVE BRICS and repent and ask God to forgive their hypocrisy!!!!!!
The real South Africans, not the artificial ones, are with Rama on this one.
@@KomeshokakunanweneYou mean , The Stupid Ones.?
There's a saying: you are known by the friends you keep and I definitely don't like Russia, China and especially not Iran.
The IRGC is on the brink of collapse, they certainly won't last, one thing I'm in favor of. It's appalling that we hosted hamas and hezbollah in our country especially after what they did on Oct 7. Russia forcefully removed 20 000 children from their families and relocated them to anywhere in Russia. And then there's China, them you can't even trust as far as you can throw them.
@@AshRodda
And what is wrong with Brics. ?
The ANC are learning that you cannot sit on two chairs.
They must sit on the South African chair not the war criminal American chair
In America they not to sure who's chair they are sitting on
ITS BECAUSE THEY ONLY THINK ABOUT THEMSELFS
SOUTH AFRICA HAVE A LITTLE PUTTIN!ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN THE WORLD AND HIS COUNTRY ARE SUFFERING
So the DEVIL speaks...😂😂@@bartholomeusjordaan6203
As president Paul Kagame of Rwanda said, "AID is more political than anything else in the world". Once you get used to it, it is like a drug with serious side-effects the moment you try to quit it. It was meant to treat you but Doctor Sam was a businessman enough to tell you half the story so you can keep coming back. Love from your Rwandan brother 🇷🇼❤🇿🇦.
Quoting Paul kagame is like quoting a monkey
@@Uuu29-fy2vc I absolutely don't get the metaphor...Maybe you want to say that Kagame likes bananas a lot? Well, I like them too, super sweet but on the healthy side.
@@Uuu29-fy2vc you're fool in ignoring what Kagame say, he is human as you. He can take his stand.
Funny the old South Africa never received a cent in aid. From 1910 to 1994....not a cent.
I wonder what went wrong?????
@@PhansiKhongoloza😂😂😂 please don't ask the question. Uncle Cyril will appoint a 30 man team that is way overpaid with no background experience to look into the matter. You will have the answer in 4yrs time 😂😂
There are a helluva lot of civilians that could give the answer in +-15 seconds tho.
South Africa would have been better off if it stayed quiet and keep focused on their internal problems rather than trying to portray as a world super power.
Get rich quick scheme
Abba Father please be merciful to Your children in South Africa I ask in Jesus Name
Ramaphosa better clean up this mess. Because it is HIS most vulnerable citizens who will suffer. Even if they dont think so. Ignorance is a problem.
Bye bye ANC and EFF...You are defeated.
I wondered when this will happen. The only people who did not expect this , is the ANC leaders. Every action has consequences Mr President.
When the blind follows the blind they all will fall into the hole. God will not ever be mocked. God will protect his children, the one's who bless Israel. He who blessis Israel will be blessed and he who curses Israel will be cursed. This is God who says this not a mortal. Wake up people.
@@johnramsamy534 and it’s ok to wipe out PAL’s
@@johnramsamy534 What absolute kak!
Ramaphosa and the ANC don't care but it's people care
No we don't 🙏
South Africa doesn't Need USA, same way they don't need us.
Good very good - Kick us out - we the people don't benefit from ANYTHING the politicians do!!!!!!
I don't like the so called Ramaphosa at all because of his unreasonable alliance
THE ANC REALLY DESTROYED SA!
It was entirely predictable.
No, they did not. Delusional racist
ANC is a joke
Ramaphosa needs to be taught a hard lesson.
South AFRica is an independent Nation and no one can dictate wht the leaders want and deserve ?
Yes, should Trump go through with this, many South Africans will suffer because of it and it will serve the country right and maybe the current government will finally wake up but I doubt it and I am from South Africa and I don’t have any faith let alone, trust in the government.
Rammer Supposer has Picked the Wrong Side and will pay a Huge Price.
Trump is a great leader not a bully, he is putting his people and country first. Making his nation great that should be every President's goal.
Good for him 👍
Trump is going to make the world great. God is guiding him.
This guy says Trump is a "con man and a bully", but I would also do the same thing if a country was cozying up to my enemies. What exactly did Ramaphoza expect? He must tread carefully now. Millions of lives are at stake!
"the enemies" are not SA enemy. When I say SA, I mean the real ones, not the artificial ones. On the contrary the enemies of the existence of Africans are the real enemies of SA.
He is not reading the room
We are happy that Trump will sort out the corrupt ANC
Hi Redsky Alice, don't pay much attention to this Bond fellow. He's only a Ramaphosa / ANC puppet and I guess he gets paid well for it. He has no idea what the result of cuddling up with enemy Nr 1 of Israel is.
@redskyalice2529 The deleter is at work again. My 2nd try. Pay no attention to this Bond fellow. He is a puppet of Ramaphosa and his party. I guess he gets paid well for it. He has no idea what the result of going against the Nr.1 nation of this Planet is. He think Trump makes these decisions, but there is one Book that he has never read. Edit: The Nr.1 nation is the one that was taken to the I.C.J by Ram.... for defending themselves against Ram's friends who wear something like a checkered racing flag around their necks.
Pay no attention to this Bond guy. He is a puppet of Ramaphosa. Probably also wear a checkered racing flag around his neck .
WE have been isolated for decades, so what is new.
Will teach ANC to mind there own business. Now we all are going to suffer😢😢
In international political history, you don't go against the West/Israel and win.....it is what it is
Never say never. For as long as Africa, China, and Russia belive that nothing, absolutely nothing is cast in stone, they will not stop forging this alliance that is forming. Everything regarding the ingredients of this alliance is on the table.
The most impprtant word in the world is when everyone says "WE DON'T WANT THE WAR" . We must be free.
South Africa✖️
Powercut Africa✔️
Why do they have a white girl with pale edit reading african news? First post is woke 😊😊
We can do far better without them
You are fooling your self @@itumelengmosailane1192
Independence is key
South Africa doesn't have a president but a shop manager.
He's our President for sure, you better Shut up with your 💩threats 🤪
@Sacn4life-t2j we never had a president but puppets
@@denzel268 🤪
We could do with a shop manager as a president.
@@Sacn4life-t2j Pray, tell us, where are Denzel's threats? I don't see them.
As a South African, pls. note we already suffer tremendously, still down into the dark deepest evil and no end or light in sight - That is why I agree with President Trump. We may suffer a bit longer - but it will end, there will be light again. Like I've said, we are already at our worst off, only a fraction of our capability. It time men of character, strength and honesty take contoll of South Africa as a whole. All our diverse people suffer under crime, no work/jobs, scercly food on our tables. What future do we have now - NOTHING AT ALL. May GOD ALMIGHTY unite all our diverse beautiful people together, we know the ANC and their evil partners (Russia, China, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc.)do not like that. May we learn from American, they didn't listen to the Biden's Camp evil lies - they united under President Trump - beautiful diverse under President Trump. May GOD bless American and South Africa.
Lets see how Ramaphosa will create jobs
And how does Donald Trump create jobs for south Africans?
Ramaposa is just big talk,nearly 35% unemployment,50%on grants, in south africa and counting,
@@Leelms you living in denial, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ramaphosa will not create jobs as he never ever created single one
@@PumlaNzimaAnd who does, Trump??
We don't care. We need change and it's painful to transform
The black child doesnt care about who, they just want to live and China will eat them more than the west
But you transform.
It’s the people who won’t suffer that are very brave. Life is short. It’s a real shame that lives are played with such an attitude.
Change...😂 but u keep voting for these idiots
They can take their agoa, 90% of us don't benefit from it anyway,
Don has no idea about anything to do with Africa. But as regards South Africa, he will listen to only one man - who knows South Africa (from an ap@rtheid perspective) - Musk. South Africa's goose is cooked.
Like Mandela said, your enemies is not necessarily my enemies.
Mandela sided with Hamas despite Hamas's 1987 charter calling for the global massacre of Jews and It's pro-Hitler stances on the final solution. Mandela sided with the wrong people on plenty of foreign diplomacy matters.
But mandela expect the usa to view his enemy as their enemy.
No.He asked for US help in the beginning.The US refused and instead supported the apartheid regime.@@anomalousviewer3164
He then turned to Cuba and Cuba helped.
And he blamed everyone else for not viewing his enemy as their enemies. Nelson Mandela, the root to all south Africa problems
Isn`t that just the TRUE SOLUTION TO OUR WORLDS PROBLEMS...THE GOAL should be for ALL WORKING together and not against one another. PRAY GOD SAID !
God cleanly warned that the Antichrist will deceive with: we all stand together...
Cool. Next they will be telling us what to eat for breakfast
What do you expect when you people focus on american investors more than common African brothers😅😅😅😅
There might be nothing to eat for breakfast?
Why, did Musk buy Kellogs?
To hell with dictates of the west so called powers. USA IS FOOLED BY DENIAL. EVERY EMPIRE IS PRONE TO FAILURE ESPECIALLY THAT OF SHEER STUPIDITY. IT IS STUPID FOR USA TO IMAGINE ITSELF AS OUR ALMIGHTY!!!
Dey gots no maany to inves in Sout Efrika. Hulle is no baie arm. De man wid de gold makes de rools....and de Amerikans maany is gold. 😉
Not all people in south Africa are part of anc. And do not stands for there desisions
SA is already in deep deep financial problems. Getting pushed over edge may indeed cause SA to civil wars and/or anarchy. SA should be finding ways to rehabilitate the power grid and solving crime instead of playing chess with world powers.
😂😂 keep dreaming we hv everything in south africa 🇿🇦 frm gold to uranium and platinum .diamonds mines and coal plus agricultural products
Your civil war?., go back to Europe, or better to Donald Trump.
@@VusumziMahashe But internal political in-fighting problems will keep SA from mining those metals and coal because of corruption. Go back to sleep.
America owes china more money 😂 they deep in debt 😂
@@JuicyJLee Being in debt with a deficit. For a reserve currency it is a pretty powerfull asset
Trump is neither a bully or a con man. He is a superb negotiator. He talks straight and politicians hate that. I am South African and if I were Trump, based on how the government of SA have treated The USA over the past 10 years, I would also pull those agreements. Why support countries who allign with your enemies. Its simply dumb.
Bond does not understand this. He's just a paid puppet.
@deanpaterson3219• Bond does not understand this. He is a puppet of Ramaphosa.
Who is "Bond"?@@reteipegal7690
@@reteipegal7690 Yes, this is the vibe I got from listening to him, even though I had no knowledge of his politics.
Trump's bluster is simple... it is an announcement that the U.S. is adopting an America First policy. South Africa has an SA First policy, as shown by BRICS, so this is both countries adopting the same view on their foreign policy relationships.
But Russia and Iran are very broke and dictatorship. Unless if Ramposa wants to become a dictator!!!!
No, a ANC First Policy. The ANC unfortunately remained the so called liberation movement and will therefore always be in depth to their sponsors.
Zimbabwe did the same and had far more articulate and capable politicians were are they now?
Only China has a economy that rivals America this will fail 90% or atleast won't play out as SA thinks it will
@@garimakaya3403 How did Zimbabwe do the same with its Foreign Policy? Please elaborate.
Small fish in a very big pond. Our president sadly is going to learn this now.
Does he have the capacity to learn?
n Pispaddatjie!!
God bless South Africa
Bless South Africa... Open trade with India.. Don't let no one colonise the way you decide to do business.
Which God
Sa under these blackwaste is cursed
@@renskejansenvanvuuren2830 not all is corrupt in every nation there are bad people so dont be races aswell do you think jesus is races so follow his teaching and try to be a better human
@@julietbwalya2344The only God who created the Universe. The One who was crucified and paid for the sins of the world and the One who says if you repent of your sins and believe in His Name, you will be saved. His name is Jesus Christ!
Thank you Lord hope he give some advice how to run the country, we have so many issues and not intelligent people tryung to run it in the ground
You dont see many black people in Russia, China or Muslim countries. I hope Ramaphosa takes note.
Russia and China did not take slaves from Africa. I think SA is sympathetic.
All they see is money cant even mine the mines the zama zamas must come and show them how
Ramaphosa screws up everything he touches.
thats true .and he doesn't care a damn neither does his voters
What a lot of griefs this S.A. govt has caused...😢😢😢😢 Perilious times...
It is through this South African government that we can walk through the same doors as the oppressive whites.
voetsek
Hopefully South Africa is not just being brave but also has a plan to survive whatever pressure the US exerts
No plan exists . There is no forward thinking.
with God help I will survive
@@loganathannaidoo2421 Say you don't know! You mean, you haven't noticed the many meetings that have been taking place between SA and China. There are rumours that China wants some of its major industries to move to South Africa. Why do you think Ramaphosa is pushing so hard for the Africa Free Trade Agreement? He wants to increase trade between SA and other African countries. He recently met the Nigerian and Angolan presidents and also visited Algeria. SA is also focusing more on other Asian countries now. That is the plan. I think he's had enough of the threats. By the way, if they isolate us, we also withhold our minerals.
Character is revealed when pressure is applied
Zim brave. It starts.
This Ramaphosa must go we are tired of him
Racist u can go live Ramaphosa
US were suffering because of their leaders idiotcracy. The US should pay their 35 trillion dollars debt to other countries....Ramaphosa are already re alligned with Russia and China known as BRICS. The US think their hegemony could still exist, but no more. South Africa was no longer in negotiation with US because of sanctions and South Africa knows it.
South Africa is on a downhill spiral. You can not run a country with such high unemployme figures.
Yes. He must go. Nothing got better. Only worse..
The ANC must go. They do nothing to build a better future for the people who fought for freedom.
As an South African i share the views of Trump.
ANC want to side with Bricks they got to face the consequences
Stay strong South Africa.
As a South African, we deserve whatever punishment Trump throws at us because of the idiotic decisions of our mentally disabled President.
Mnr Trump stop pumping money is this country with It discriminating laws.
I am a South African and believe: if you don't listen, you must learn. We can not even sort out our own country, but we interfere with Israel. We do not agree with our government, but we do not have a say.
Ap@rth3id apologist, westerners benefit far more in agoa than what they would have you think. They cannot produce their own goods locally at a competitive price. They us not the other way around. Australia is calling yall
SA is more dependant on the West than the East nations that includes Iran being part of BRICS. Trump is a wise man and can influence SA econmu negatively if he choses so! SA needs investments to create jobs for the millions unemployed! Can BRICS offer that? Ramaphosa is being managed by Putin! 😢😢
Let the us move out like they did in Russia and watch Russian Chinese and others including south Africans take over us assets for cents on the dollar.
nonsense
Agreed these clowns don’t had a clue about how to run a country just look the past 31 years there track record useless..!!
And, btw, how long will the DJT presidency last ?
More than 48 months ?
What then for South Africa ?
Hopefully Mr Ramaphosa & South Africa will not choose the ticket to ride along with an unstable, self seeking, bully bouncing Potus 47.
Stay strong, President Ramaphosa, the S A Leadership & All citizens in the Republic of South Africa.
💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Yes SA can go forward. The are people in South Africa that like western countries alot. Remember alot of Germans and all those western are in South Africa. So by leaving America. Its them who will have difficult time more than those like Asia side with African countries
Good for Mr Trump. Something has to be done😊
My white Dutch European ancestors were religious refugees who escaped persecution from the Catholics by coming to the south of Africa in the mid 1600's. There was not a brick or a road or a book in the vast, untamed wilderness that South Africa then was. Only small groups like the Khoisan roamed south of the Kei River. Africans arrived north of the Kei - only 100 years before the Whites. That's history, but it seems nobody bothered to inform themselves first before attacking us.
The Europeans brought their skills and culture to build this land into a prosperous country, then they suffered the Boer War under the British where thousands of Afrikaans women and children perished in British concentration camps. The British destroyed the newly established civilization in one of their brutal colonialist wars.
We survived that horror and went on to build a flourishing economy. Then the UN started meddling and the early leftist media came up with the dividing concept of 'apartheid' and promoted that to the world much as they did with BLM and wokeness now.
The government's original intention in fact, was separate cultural development (we were then clearly multi cultural with various tribal areas and cultures to protect.) Because of the vitriolic attacks, and the relentless sactions by the West, the prosperous white minority handed over administration to the communist aligned ANC who wanted it all - including the area south of the Kei. They got their way and now we suffer again because of the ANC's racist black empowerment policies and their BRICS alliance. The world pushed us to hand over administration to the ANC - this total disaster is the result. ±22,000 people are murdered in our country every year - many being white farmers and their families - brutally slaughtered. The EFF black radicals chant "Kill the Boer" openly at their rallies. So for the ANC to stand up for Palestine against Israel - once an ally of South Africa - demonstrates their bigotry. They used the U.S. and Europe via the UN to give them billions to end 'apartheid' - only to stab the West and Israel in the back now.
Even the original so called 'apartheid' government in South Africa at that time gave these cultural groups billions for self development, but all that visibly happened, was that all the chiefs bought themselves huge black Mercedez Benz cars in those days. Nothing went to infrastructure in the various chief/kingdoms. Nothing much has changed - like the millions in cash recently found stashed in Ramaphosas couch in Namibia. Perhaps it was a gift from Palestine? Who knows.
Most white and some black South Africans support the Trump-led Republican Party in America. Instead I suggest Trump must support the few remaining white people in South Africa in business who are keeping the economy going despite unfair, racist Black empowerment policies. Our once pristine infrastructure is collapsing fast - roads, railways, airline, harbours, business, the exceptional educational system - everything we built, is going to the ground fast. We're just tired of politics and unfairness. Most black and white South Africans get on well, but the radical politicians constantly stoke the fires of hate because that is how they remain in power. Religious and political deologies are dangerous. It will be the end of us all.
Dude I couldn't have said it better and you were spot on! All FACTS!!!
𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮 𝗹𝗼𝗮𝗱 𝗼𝗳 𝗯𝘂𝗹𝗹𝘀𝗵𝗶𝘁!
@NtozakhePhakathi-cr1th it's fact. Go study the history of SA!!!
Nonsense!
All depends on who gave you the history facts.Still you have to be responsible, productive and humain.If everyone in SA will be responsible, productive and humain.we will be ok Ask your friends if they are.The world don't owe you, instead you are responsible for your children s future @deanfraser419
We are already stuffed.... just gonna be worse for us South Africans.. because of this corrupt government...
Go Trump. Our president needs a wake up call.
I definitely saw it coming! Suing Israel, joining Bricks was a direct declaration with US! In my mind SA isnt strong enough for the risk they took!
Now he has to choose between Bricks and USA relations, he chooses USA he loses Bricks relations, either way!
Do not touch Israel! He made the biggest mistake for South Africa
Oh man we in trouble 😢
NOT REALLY,
Yup
It's just facts. TUMP TEARING SHIT UP.
Nah
When us Christians tell U about Israel and God,U don't listen.Now we cursed.May God help us Christians who support Israel from those sick Arabs who kill their own children.
Don't say "South Africa" say Ramaphosa and the ANC government.
SA should tread carefully. National pride can blind you to economic reality (as Britain found out with Brexit)
What about South Africans NOT supporting Ramaphosa So the innocent suffers again 😡
SA in great trouble! Roads, highways in need of repairs. No money to repair infrastructure.
That's inspite of Uncle Sam's friendship
And yet the administration is getting involve in international politics that they don't have the economic, political and military strengths to handle, they just want to use South Africa against the west, South African people should reject it.
@@isasaleh1508 Because Iran gives much less money than the United States.
@@isasaleh1508 SA under the ANC is no friend of the USA.
@@AlanLe-p6n America’s roads, infrastructure and economy is fantastic and doing so well…!!
Ramaposa better help the people in SA instead of meddling in other countries affairs. Israel 🇮🇱 has no choice but to defend itself from attacks from different directions. What would countries like SA do, but then again Ramaposa doesn’t care about his people but himself. 🇬🇧
South Africa government took Israel to international court, must also take Frelimo to court
True
What is the case?
SA politicians took money from Iran to take Israel to the ICJ and they join Brics,2025 the heat is going to turn up in SA for the ordinary citizens coz of greed and corruption
Mozambique was a peaceful country until they discovered oil, all hell broke loose and we know who behind the chaos those who destroyed Libya Syria, Iraq and many other countries for their resources
South Africa did its part. Now let USA or England take Moçambique to the ICJ