Brambleclaw? I think you mean bramble *star.* for some reason moonkitti draws bramblestar more fluffy than brambleclaw. Lol this reply had nothing to do with the actual comment.
And... what was that guy’s name? That dude.. with the... face? The one who didn’t make it past the prologue of Into the Wild ? What was his name? Eh no one cares, he didn’t make it past the prologue of Into the Wild
I love how some people use a character from the books, named themself that, describes them a bit, and put moonkitti’s art as that character in the profile picture 😂
IN BLUESTARS PROPHECY, the WHOLE point of her apprenticing Ravenpaw to Tigerclaw is because he's timid and she wants him to have more confidence. Have the authors read the books? (Since everyone is already talking how oakheart was killed by rocks)
It was a lil' unfortunate that the book potrayed Ravenpaw as if the author had never heard of the character befofe, though by narrative it could kinda make sence? That wasnt what the book wanted to do probably but hmm Oblivious and insecure Ravenpaw who's being manipulated by his mentor, so he could possibly become a disposable lackey. It would be cool to see a fanfic where someone explores Ravenpaws kithood and Tigerclaws manipulation-later attemts to get rid of the apprentice
I think it makes a bit more sense if Ravenpaw is trying to be more violence based, but still is a bundle of nerves. Like a "oh haha...yup...violence...love it..." Kinda thing.
Was Ravenpaw really scared of being a warrior though? The only thing he's scared of in the original book is Tigerclaw and the social fallout of knowing something he's not supposed to. Beyond that, the writing goes out of its way to depict him as exceptionally capable at his duties.
Ravenpaw: **Smacks a buff kid** Also Ravenpaw: **Catches a snake and shows it to his gay lover** Also also Ravenpaw: **Cowers under a tree because the bark reminds him of Tigerstar**
I'm shocked no one else has pointed this out, but I always read that scene as ravenpaw putting on a tough act in front of tigerclaw because that's how he's expected to act to keep tigerclaw from getting angry at him. Nothing suggests he actually felt confident or that he meant anything he said.
I look at it like this - Ravenpaw only acted that way because of what Tigerclaw showed/taught him. After seeing the figure he was supposed to trust murder someone who's probably his cousin , traumatized him. Being traumatized changes you. It made him go from being sure of him self and outgoing, to timid and quiet. In a way it makes sense, but they could have been smoother about it.
I love how you gave redtail the same body type as squirrelflight which makes sense (cause their family) which makes it really funny to squirrelflights standing next to her family which is like(big muscles big bois so buff) and then her and redtail .(the badass shorties )
wait squirrelflight and redtail are kin? oh yeah i forgot- redtail may or may not be sandstorm's dad -Or maybe mom, hes a tortishell and supposed to be sterile- -What if both parennts are trans- -nevermind-
I was like "This is going really well! They did their research and kept it consistent this time-Oh no, no, never mind" When reading Redtail's debt tbh because wasn't like a BIG part of it that Redtail DIDN'T kill Oakheart?
I did a re-read recently while keeping this in mind. The battle in Redtail's Debt is mostly consistent with statements and implications from Into the Wild, which are contradicted by the statements made in Forest of Secrets. Notably, Ravenpaw's Forest of Secrets version claims that the reason he went back to the battle was that he hadn't seen whether Redtail was okay after the rockfall and that he had to creep past the retreating RiverClan cats to get back, while in his story at the gathering in Into the Wild he claims to have seen Redtail unharmed and actively involved in the battle after Oakheart's death, and in his private retelling to Firepaw in chapter 19, he claims that the reason he went back was that he didn't want to leave while they were still fighting. With enough semantic wrestling you can get the Into the Wild versions to fit the Forest of Secrets version, but it requires Ravenpaw's gathering story to be entirely made up, and for him to have lied about why he went back in the chapter 19 retelling. Instead Redtail's Debt takes everything he said from Into the Wild and nothing from Forest of Secrets. The "not losing at all" quip in this video seems out of place though, as RiverClan retreated in both versions. I can only assume Moonkitti mixed it up with the battle ThunderClan lost a moon earlier? (As another aside, I'm not sure why RiverClan would have retreated in the same direction Ravenpaw took to go towards ThunderClan's camp.)
The only thing worse than it is the abomination that is Spottedleaf's Heart. Honestly, after that and this new pile of garbage, it seems like the Erin's are just publishing bad fanfiction.
I havent read it yet, but I'd like to consider it canon if you just cross out all the stuff that messes with actual canon. Like Oakhearts' death and Ravenpaws'... everything.
Redtail's debt was about to be my favorite novella, but of course the Erins would never allow that. So Thunderstar's Echo sits at the top, where it should be. Now followed by Tawnypelt's clan solely because of that One (1) insult at Tigerstar and the adorable Tawnypelt and Dovewing friendship
Ravenpaw was a precious baby with ptsd and anxiety but he never stopped being brave and pretty amazing with his hunting and fighting. He killed a crow, an adder, and hunted in enemy territory alone as an apprentice.
According to Moonkitti's Canon hierarchy, Ravenpaw was never like this. In Bluestar's prophecy he was scared of everything and wanted to make peace every chance he got, and Super Editions are higher up than Special Editions.
Hi Moon, idk if you will see this, but thank you so much for introducing me to Goatlings! P.S- My user used to be Eclipstix but I moved my stuff to a account that goes by WishGlows
GummiCat Gaming It’s a rock. The novella writers (who aren’t the main authors) just have no concept of the canon outside of coat colors and brief skimmings of the Warriors wiki
I love how Squirrelflight's and Redtail's designs look so much alike. You know with him being her grandfather and all. Just two cute small beans with huge bushy red tails. As well as being done with everyones BS.
Maybe I’m in no position to talk seeing as I haven’t actually read Redtail’s Debt but from what I’ve heard maybe you could explain it away as Ravenpaw trying to suck up to Tigerclaw? Like “ah yes I totally love fighting and violence and everything you like my dear mentor ahaha please don’t bully me anymore” while actually being innerly terrified of the idea of actually going into battle
I haven't read Redtail's Debt or Bluestar's Prophecy, but I thought even in Bluestar's Prophecy Ravenpaw was mentioned as timid and jumpy. Wasn't that the whole reason Bluestar made Tigerclaw his mentor? To toughen him up? How can he go from timid, to a tough outgoing fighter, back to timid, all in the span of a month or so.... I also heard that they changed Oakheart's death in RT's Debt... not sure how they can explain that one since his death was kind of a main plot point...
I never thought I would hear Ravenpaw say that he loves fighting
bramble claw!!!!! what are you doing here
Brambleclaw? I think you mean bramble *star.* for some reason moonkitti draws bramblestar more fluffy than brambleclaw. Lol this reply had nothing to do with the actual comment.
Me either
-I honestly don't think Squirrelflight's gonna be a good leader-
Brambleclaw the 400 pound badger Holy Starclan, Your supposed to be picking moss
"OH NO I'VE WITNESSED A MURDER THERE GOES MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY!" -Ravenpaw
10/10 best line
quote of te year
FUR shure
this is why I don't accept the new retcons lol
relatable xDD
Just as Ravenpaw said that, I read this.
Ravenpaw: I have a personality!
Tigerstar: I'm gonna ruin his entire career
NO BUT THATS LITERALLY WHAT HE DID HE QUITE LITERALLY RUINED RAVENPAW'S CAREER
*I’m about to ruin this man’s whole career
I’m sorry I’m a meme geek
@@Blio_ it's not a thing to be sorry for
Im bout to end this man's whole career
boop
bam
bop
badda
bop
boom
pow!
(kills redtail)
*Ravenpaw:* I love fighting. Violence is great.
*Tigerclaw kills Redtail*
*Ravenpaw:* shockedpikachumeme.jpg
Ace Coordinator Mary shocked pikachu meme
WeHammies - .jpg
*Ravenpaw: "Be quiet redtail, your dead!"*
*Me: "yeah redtail you can't talk when your dead"*
Starclan: *Let* *us* *introduce* *ourselves* !
*RIP*
Here lies Ravenpaw's personality
_Killed by witnessing a murder_
And... what was that guy’s name? That dude.. with the... face? The one who didn’t make it past the prologue of Into the Wild ? What was his name? Eh no one cares, he didn’t make it past the prologue of Into the Wild
@BroClubSid lol i thoight he was talking about Oakheart i havent read the books in a long time
hmmmmmm you look familiar.
@@axeulo Copycat lmao
I love how some people use a character from the books, named themself that, describes them a bit, and put moonkitti’s art as that character in the profile picture 😂
Ravenpaw: *TIGERSTAR IN THE CAMP!!!! TIGERSTAR IN THE CAAAAAMP!!!! Thought you ought to know* **faints**
THIS IS INCREDIBLY ACCURATE AND A GREAT REFERENCE
I love this.
Best comment 👏👏 might make a drawing outta this xD
@@The.Viewer turban and everything
@@cora2828 yoss
His personality was so inconsistent it really confused me when I was recording my outloud reading of the book.
pinkbunnygirl43
OMG IM A BIG FAN!!! 😱😁
I honestly just found him boring.
Oh my god. I feel like they made it so inconsistent to try and make up for the fact he’s such a boring dude.
hey pinkbunnygirl wasnt expecting to see you here
Pinkbunnygirl43 IM A FAN
Tigerclaw:*insults redtail and calls him weak and says he’s a weak warrior/deputy*
Also tigerclaw:*kills redtail*
Ravenpaw: :0
Bluestar: >:0
Firestar: Ö
.- O -. Oh my..
Firestar: >:OOO
Tigerclaw: >:3
Here's a theory, Redtail *was* Ravenpaws personality
@@moonalpha9233
You don't say? It's almost like i could make this into a joke!
@@moonalpha9233
Yeperdoodle kiddo
Gasp! It all makes sense now :0
=0
You're right
Yes.
_RedTail's Debt Framed RedTail. I won't say this again_
*agrees with the statement above 1000 times* THEY DID OUR CALICO BOI WRONG.
It's not canon to me.
How did Oakheart die??? Was it a rock? Was it Redtail? Was it Tigerstar? Was it plot convenience? We will never know
@@buttonsplats77 The funny thing is that we do know. But the authors definitely don’t.
"Ravenpaw- weren't you like- timid..?"
"Oh no, that's me three minutes from now"
*THAT IS ME THE NEXT YEAR I GO TO SCHOOL*
That’s like...exactly my mindset
Ravenpaw: “I love to fight!”
Tigerclaw’s leg slowly slides into view.
Tigerclaw: *I’m about to end this man’s whole career.*
Tigerclaw: (step)
Ravenpaw: (self combust)
IN BLUESTARS PROPHECY, the WHOLE point of her apprenticing Ravenpaw to Tigerclaw is because he's timid and she wants him to have more confidence. Have the authors read the books? (Since everyone is already talking how oakheart was killed by rocks)
Seem they don’t reread their own series. Which is a shame. Always making mistakes cuz they don’t go back to make sure it makes sense
“THERE GOES MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY!”
That’s me.
Edit: Thanks for the likes!
👇🏻
So relatable
Get this comment to 666 likes
Not me, the person highest above me.
I made it 666 for you bros
It was a lil' unfortunate that the book potrayed Ravenpaw as if the author had never heard of the character befofe, though by narrative it could kinda make sence? That wasnt what the book wanted to do probably but hmm
Oblivious and insecure Ravenpaw who's being manipulated by his mentor, so he could possibly become a disposable lackey.
It would be cool to see a fanfic where someone explores Ravenpaws kithood and Tigerclaws manipulation-later attemts to get rid of the apprentice
Ashfur the blonde edgelord I see you in the comments of every Moonkitti vid, now I scroll through looking for your user XD
i like to think tigerclaw started to rub off on him until he wittnessed the murder
YOU AGAIN
I think it makes a bit more sense if Ravenpaw is trying to be more violence based, but still is a bundle of nerves. Like a "oh haha...yup...violence...love it..." Kinda thing.
Was Ravenpaw really scared of being a warrior though? The only thing he's scared of in the original book is Tigerclaw and the social fallout of knowing something he's not supposed to. Beyond that, the writing goes out of its way to depict him as exceptionally capable at his duties.
"Be quiet Red Tail you're dead."
Yeah Red Tail..JEEEZ
"Tigerstar Killed Redtail!"
*Do you mean the same Tigerstar that's been terrorizing us for mOnThS?!*
Uh i need to go noow... >:3 -Ravenpaw
Ravenpaw: **Smacks a buff kid**
Also Ravenpaw: **Catches a snake and shows it to his gay lover**
Also also Ravenpaw: **Cowers under a tree because the bark reminds him of Tigerstar**
I clicked a fast as possible I love Ravenpaw :3
Me too
The honour is mine :3
my favorite too 😘
The more I hear about Redtail's Debt, the less I want to read about it xD
I'm shocked no one else has pointed this out, but I always read that scene as ravenpaw putting on a tough act in front of tigerclaw because that's how he's expected to act to keep tigerclaw from getting angry at him. Nothing suggests he actually felt confident or that he meant anything he said.
I've never clicked on anything so fast...lol Ravenpaw
I’ve never clicked on anything so fast either! Only 6 hours late because I was watching other Moonkitti videos!
I look at it like this -
Ravenpaw only acted that way because of what Tigerclaw showed/taught him. After seeing the figure he was supposed to trust murder someone who's probably his cousin , traumatized him. Being traumatized changes you. It made him go from being sure of him self and outgoing, to timid and quiet. In a way it makes sense, but they could have been smoother about it.
The fact Redtail is much smaller than Ravenpaw is hilarious.
I honestly love how Ravenpaw is a foot taller than Redtail
*a small skinny black tom*
Oh no I witnessed my bouncy ball going over the roof- there goes my entire personality!!
*cries*
I love how you gave redtail the same body type as squirrelflight which makes sense (cause their family)
which makes it really funny to squirrelflights standing next to her family which is like(big muscles big bois so buff)
and then her and redtail .(the badass shorties )
wait squirrelflight and redtail are kin?
oh yeah i forgot- redtail may or may not be sandstorm's dad
-Or maybe mom, hes a tortishell and supposed to be sterile-
-What if both parennts are trans-
-nevermind-
I was like "This is going really well! They did their research and kept it consistent this time-Oh no, no, never mind"
When reading Redtail's debt tbh because wasn't like a BIG part of it that Redtail DIDN'T kill Oakheart?
I did a re-read recently while keeping this in mind. The battle in Redtail's Debt is mostly consistent with statements and implications from Into the Wild, which are contradicted by the statements made in Forest of Secrets.
Notably, Ravenpaw's Forest of Secrets version claims that the reason he went back to the battle was that he hadn't seen whether Redtail was okay after the rockfall and that he had to creep past the retreating RiverClan cats to get back, while in his story at the gathering in Into the Wild he claims to have seen Redtail unharmed and actively involved in the battle after Oakheart's death, and in his private retelling to Firepaw in chapter 19, he claims that the reason he went back was that he didn't want to leave while they were still fighting.
With enough semantic wrestling you can get the Into the Wild versions to fit the Forest of Secrets version, but it requires Ravenpaw's gathering story to be entirely made up, and for him to have lied about why he went back in the chapter 19 retelling. Instead Redtail's Debt takes everything he said from Into the Wild and nothing from Forest of Secrets.
The "not losing at all" quip in this video seems out of place though, as RiverClan retreated in both versions. I can only assume Moonkitti mixed it up with the battle ThunderClan lost a moon earlier?
(As another aside, I'm not sure why RiverClan would have retreated in the same direction Ravenpaw took to go towards ThunderClan's camp.)
Redtail at 0:09 was my exact reaction to this part of the novella
same xD
"BE QUIET REDTAIL, YOUR DEAD!" -ravenpaw to redtail
Ravenpaw: *does literally anything*
Bluestar: that boy aint right.
I was actually drawing Ravenpaw when this uploaded. What’s going on XD.
Brandon Camacho Oh boi.
"Oh no! I've witnessed a murder! There goes my entire personality!" XD
"Be quiet Redtail. Your dead."
Ravenpaw won’t be timid till 3 minutes from now
Get it right Redtail
“Weren’t you like, timid??”
“Oh, no, that’s me three minutes from now.”
I cried, that’s how hard I laughed 😂
I love Ravenpaw. I love his personality and especially in this, I love his sarcasm.
A moonkitti video I can actually WATCH without fear of spoilers?!
h e c c y e a h
'Be quiet Redtail, ur dead.'
-Sounds like something I would say while playing Werewolf
I just randomly saw "RavenPaw" and i just clicked and shouted
𝑨𝒄𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒅
nαgєttσ αnímαtíσnѕ ascended*
I love that nobody considers Redtail's Debt canon.
The only thing worse than it is the abomination that is Spottedleaf's Heart. Honestly, after that and this new pile of garbage, it seems like the Erin's are just publishing bad fanfiction.
I havent read it yet, but I'd like to consider it canon if you just cross out all the stuff that messes with actual canon. Like Oakhearts' death and Ravenpaws'... everything.
I'm in love with your ravenpaw design,, just gonna casually steal that and use it,,
When I saw the title I already knew what was about to go down xD
...
*THEY KNOW.*
Therapist - tall ravenpaw doesn't exist, He can't hurt you.
Tall ravenpaw -
Ahhh, I love Ravenpaw. So happy he left to live with Barley.
BEST COUPLE EVER
I love how firepaw has gotten consistently more orange the more videos are made with him in it
I just finished watching the playlist and then this releases
Redtail's debt was about to be my favorite novella, but of course the Erins would never allow that.
So Thunderstar's Echo sits at the top, where it should be. Now followed by Tawnypelt's clan solely because of that One (1) insult at Tigerstar and the adorable Tawnypelt and Dovewing friendship
I n e e d t o g o n o w
Ravenpaw was a precious baby with ptsd and anxiety but he never stopped being brave and pretty amazing with his hunting and fighting. He killed a crow, an adder, and hunted in enemy territory alone as an apprentice.
"Oh no I've witnessed a murder better to not tell until its to late"
Idk what to say so
what if Tigerstar’s plan worked?
I am making an AU where that happens
The plot takes place moons after the events
@@amberfirakitty *GASP* I MUST SEEEEEEE
Me too...honestly he was right lmao
He just went about it the wrong way
“Wait. Weren’t you like, shy and timid?” Red tail- “Oh no. That was me three minutes ago.” Raven paw-
THANK YOU
This really bothered me in the novella.
According to Moonkitti's Canon hierarchy, Ravenpaw was never like this. In Bluestar's prophecy he was scared of everything and wanted to make peace every chance he got, and Super Editions are higher up than Special Editions.
the icing on the cake is how they called him tigerstar despite him not being the leader of shadowclan yet
Hi Moon, idk if you will see this, but thank you so much for introducing me to Goatlings!
P.S- My user used to be Eclipstix but I moved my stuff to a account that goes by WishGlows
“THERE GOES MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY” -me at year 7
Ravenpaw: i love to fight and my life is great :DDD
Tigerclaw: hold my beer
I never thought I’d finally see Ravenboi in one of these vids
😅
*i like the Energy we’ve created in the studio today*
Why does oakheart die differently though >:O
IS IT ROCKS OR NOT AHH
GummiCat Gaming It’s a rock. The novella writers (who aren’t the main authors) just have no concept of the canon outside of coat colors and brief skimmings of the Warriors wiki
the one dislike is tigerclaw
Damp Duck 21 more, those are all the dead TigerClaws and TigerStars.
Muhahaha
I shouldn’t be up at 1 am watching this but here I am
Whenever I see Ravenpaw
*I click*
Btw he's my favorite character
0:21 Oh My God I love it
Yeah!
The beginning is a typical scenario of playing with your friends IRL in among us
Ooooh I yay another Moonkitti upload!
Ravenpaw?
RAVENPAW LIKES FIGHTING?
I love how red tail is so short-
10/10 this is the best video I have ever watched
I love how Squirrelflight's and Redtail's designs look so much alike. You know with him being her grandfather and all. Just two cute small beans with huge bushy red tails. As well as being done with everyones BS.
0:37 No didn't RedTail those sneaky pebbles killed him.
RIP Redtail and RavenPaw’s personality
I'm a simple person!! I see ravenpaw, I CLICK
I love u vids, been watcing them for like 3 years...i think. :,)
*rip ravenpaw’s personality*
Ravenpaw: I like to fight!
Tigerclaw: Hold my mouse
"timide" so cute :3
erin hunters: trauma makes you shy and anxious
I love how huge Ravempaw is/ how small Redtail is
Im in love with that Ravenpaw design
We need an itty bitty kitty club with redtail and squirrelflight
Maybe I’m in no position to talk seeing as I haven’t actually read Redtail’s Debt but from what I’ve heard maybe you could explain it away as Ravenpaw trying to suck up to Tigerclaw? Like “ah yes I totally love fighting and violence and everything you like my dear mentor ahaha please don’t bully me anymore” while actually being innerly terrified of the idea of actually going into battle
Ravenpaw: What's dead is dead and cannot be undead
Redtail: That's not how the saying g-
Ravenpaw: SHUT UP YOU'RE DEAD
Redtail's debt ended with something we all knew was coming, but were somehow surprised by.
Alternative title:
Anxiety itself manifested
When moonkitti uploads a video on ur favorite character
*Breathing Intensifies*
I haven't read Redtail's Debt or Bluestar's Prophecy, but I thought even in Bluestar's Prophecy Ravenpaw was mentioned as timid and jumpy. Wasn't that the whole reason Bluestar made Tigerclaw his mentor? To toughen him up? How can he go from timid, to a tough outgoing fighter, back to timid, all in the span of a month or so....
I also heard that they changed Oakheart's death in RT's Debt... not sure how they can explain that one since his death was kind of a main plot point...
Putting on a front so his mentor wouldn’t beat him up?
Dude this is an awesome video Moonkitti!!!
Oh wow tiger claw was crowed queen of shadow clan before firepaw could even warn blue star- YAS PRINCESS OF SHADOW CLAN HELP
"Oh no, I've witnessed a murder! There goes my entire personality!" - Ravenpaw
Omg I love Ravenpaw but this changed my life
My daughter loves theses things and I’m watching it and now I know. This is hilarious! Haha!
I love that Tigerstar murdered Redtail by smacking his butt with his paw
lol this is the best video i ever watched. i never read readtails dept yet and i have to say. MOONKITTI YOURE TO FUNNY!
Let's appreciate that Ravenpaw is so much taller than Redtail
That smack when Redtail was killed can change anyone’s entire personality