@natatliepinkston4868 Totally agree! I really wish they would stop dragging this because he's not father he's been getting on my nerves since the beginning I really hope nikolas returns soon even though I still have my doubts he's nikolas I feel like ace is a cassadine considering who esme was and she would want the money and what her son to have money but right nikolas is the father and I hope he will return soon because spencer is getting on my nerves it is weird he needs to start like a brother .
I want Nikolas to come back and NOT serve one second for holding E against her will. If she ain’t serving time for the stuff she’s done why should he…..
Oh she most definitely didn’t tell him because of Trina. She may pull Ace away as he gets closer to Trina. At the end of the day, Spencer needs to accept that he’s not that boy’s father or cut Trina loose and attach himself to Esme for the rest of his life! This is not sustainable!
This is so silly GH has made a horrible mistake by casting down the #Sprina storyline to build up Esme ! Why ? As my grandmother would say it's a dead cat on the line 🙄 😒 I believe the other soap operas are laughing at how GH the big wigs are destroying their own ratings because #Sprina is loved with great respect with a big following 👏 ❤ !!! The whole Esme storyline is filthy no pay off for what she has done is ridiculous! Look at Spencer's character has cha
When the mother has committed atrocities in the past and is clearly using Ace as leverage, I can understand why an older sibling would be worried. But Spencer isn’t handling the situation correctly, since he legally has no parental whatsoever. I hope the writers will get rid of this Ace storyline ASAP.
@martinmorles1 Same! Esme should decide to leave port charles with ace spencer needs to worry about his life and future I'm rooting for her to leave town with ace.
Crazy and obsessed Cassadines. I guess that dark and obsessive Cassadine trait is definitely rearing its ugly head in Spencer now. Stefan was one of the more easy- going Cassadines and yet his love of Nicholas bordered on near obsessive. He practically dedicated his entire life to Nicholas and his love life took back seat to his nephew.
Spencer has a co-dependant and extremely unhealthy relationship with Ace. It's loving and brotherly but borders on obsession. And it's tied up in his own psychological journey: all about what he went through with Nikolas, , what he wanted in his life and didn't get. It actually has NOTHING to do with Ace. Who won't even remember any of this period of his life when gets older. Spencer needs therapy asap, Trina and more healthy, boundary defined relationship with Ace.
And that little dig at Trina was so uncalled for . Girl you had plenty opportunities to take care of that child by yourself and at every turn you made sure to live in the little bubble where spencer is aces dad. Ugh
I did not like that little comment. Maybe she & Spencer need to be together. Kevin noticed Spencer and so did Trina. I think Nicholas has been away too long, come and claim your baby boy.
Can Esme just remind herself that she slept with Spencer's DAD! Whether Ace is a Cassadine or not (and I don't think he is) that would make you permanent kryptonite toward Spencer. And his family. I love how everybody is just forgiving all of this insanity plus her laundry list of crimes. It ain't that complicated. None of this foolishness would be going on in my house. Time for folks to wake up
You've Got Me Curious About Kevin Looking At Esme About What She's Doing. What Is It That She's Doing That I Am Not Seeing. Do You Have Any Idea What She Is Doing, Because I Don't Know What It Is She's Doing 🤔
I know a lot of fans say Spencer’s obsession with ace stems from abandonment issues but what I see is typical cassadine traits like obsessions with people or things showing up in spencer. It’s really concerning seeing spencer pretty much get in Kevin’s face when Kevin was just trying to state the obvious and that is he is not aces father. What’s also concerning is that spencer doesn’t see that esme only now is becoming independent since his trip with Trina has already happened. Prior to nyc esme couldn’t do anything herself including caring for ace now she wants to attend doctors appointments because she is ace is mother and can care for him best. I can see spencer becoming so consumed by this strange obsession that he looses Trina because he marries esme to keep his place in Esme’s life. The gh writers are forcing this spencer wants to make sure ace isn’t abandoned nonsense so they can hide behind the fact that they never really intended on making spencer and Trina the endgame viewers thought they would be.
@@pb4ugo19 I never followed the history until Spencer & Trina came on the scene. Spencer got up in Trina's face earlier, but she did not back down. So, this is a control factor from all the Cassadines in history? This is interesting to know, but he can't have it his way, he has to give some.
@@marshagreen9759A LONG history w/ obsession and control. It doesn't usually end well. With Spencer's particular storyline, he's a dope like his dad, but I don't trust that this whole charade isn't part of Esme's plan. Sometimes I wonder if Victor may have something to do w/ this being that he's pulling crap w/ Charlotte too.
@@marshagreen9759 Yes the controlling men in Cassadine history goes all the way back to Laura. She abandoned Nikolas on Cassadine Island to go back to Luke in the 80s and Stephan Cassadine helped to raise Nikolas as a infant and I believe he was instrumental with keeping Laura away from him for years until he was a teenager. The Cassadine men love to take the kids away from the mothers and raise them alone. They have no regard for the mothers/women. Just as Victor disregarded Esme like an afterthought when he kidnapped Ace. The Cassadine men only care about male heirs and keeping their lines going. The women/mothers in the baby's lives don't really matter. Now, for Spencer it seems they are going more the abandonment/daddy issues route in the telling of this story, but that is still a thread in this storyline that goes back decades.
@@CatchupGirl71 Didn't Helena kill her own daughter? She killed Alexis' mom. Flashbacks on UA-cam was showing it. You NAILED IT! That is their History. Been a watcher for a decades but I did stop for a few years. When, I came back, Nikolas was being introduced to Laura and her family with Luke ( I speed watched to get caught up. There are points I still need clearing on). Cassidine woman are just a means to an end. Helena was married into the family but she preserved the Bloodline until death
Thank you for loading this because this is up for debate. While I'm not happy with the way Spencer seems to be obsessing, let's talk about Ms. ESME. I'm sick of this character and this storyline. She is hell-bent on being a family unit until Spencer doesn't bend to her will. She was perfectly fine with going to Kelly's just the three of them but she HAD to remind him that she's Ace's mother because she's low key booty hurt he went to NYC and was visiting Trina. Esme did that on purpose, and both Trina and Kevin provided sound advice that Spencer is ignoring. His persistence to provide this faux family unit is dangerous because, in Esme's mind, it is Ace, Spencer (her man/baby daddy), and herself. Trina once again is placed in a dangerous situation where Esme feels she must remove her. Spencer's action will come back and bite him square in the axx. He thought the revenge porn and framing Trina was bad. Esme is going to up her antics much higher than before. Unfortunately, there will be major ramifications left when Esme does her damage again in Port Charles. Laura, Alexis, Gregory, and Portia all have given Esme an ear and a pass. I'm ready for Ace and Esme storyline to wrap up, but GH writers have a way to drag a storyline cause Nell and Peter were on longer than anyone wanted them to be.
@flacagonzales, 100% right my sister. Esme is sly like a fox and slick like Rick. If Trina & Kevin can see what is happening with Spencer, why can't Spencer see what is happening? Esme is already upping her antics, but I am now thinking Trina might have something up her sleeves. Trina was very bold with Spencer, and I think she is dam tired of Esme, what if she turns the table on Esme in a sneaky way.
@@marshagreen9759 Spencer is in too deep to see his own behavior or actions. It's like an addict, he has tunnel vision right now on Ace. Somebody has to wake him, shake him and snap him out of it. Ultimately, I think it will be Trina.
@@CatchupGirl71 For a minute when Trina clapped her hands, when Spencer lifted his hands towards her shoulder, he stepped back. Trina, I thought was going to slap the heck out of him and she later was tender with him, grabbing his hands. He was pissed that Trina spoke up for the first time and he could not out-talk her. Trina showed she didn't give a dam if Esme was a good mom or not, her concern was their relationship. She broke it down to him and was blunt in telling him. Later Spencer was pissed from Trina's conversation and got mad at Esme & Kevin. I did not like Esme dig at Trina and Spencer needed to pay attention as he is losing sight of the real Esme. You have been fooled once Spencer, Trina told you that last year, don't get fooled again, my man.
Spencer is giving "fatal attraction" vibes (I'm sure there is a better term here lol, but you know what I mean...an eeriness) over Ace. It's going to be a nasty battle when Nikolas reemerges. Just like Nikolas, Spencer doesn't think about the big picture. This will backfire on him, and he will eventually lose everyone in the process, including Trina. It will be delicious if it turns out that Ace isn't even a Cassadine after all is said & done.
I don't get why fans want Esme to remember cause that would just amplify Spencer obsession also it would feel like repeating old stuff & divert the story's direction. Instead I feel Spencer will become more obsessed to the point of using that fake evidence on Esme which will backfire and she be exonerated for her crimes and she leaves port charles afterwards.
@@martinmorles1 I don't know if Esme will regain her memory back or if she is faking, but obsession/control is a big trait and common theme in Cassadine history. Idk how this SL will end, but I don't believe it will end in Spencer's favor.
That’s the storyline I WANT SO BAD!! But they wouldn’t DARE give SPRINA fans the satisfaction of having that outcome. GH hates Trina and Spencer. I don’t care about New York. New York is a lot like Sonny and Nina’s wedding. Doing all of these amazing things for them as a couple isn’t to make them a stronger couple or to give them a happily ever after… it’s just so the fall out between Trina and Spencer can be 10 times Worse- Thats all New York was. A young couple who just experienced something like that wouldn’t be able to stay away from each other or keep their hands off each other, yet it’s like New York NEVER HAPPENED! Whoever is writing this storyline SUCKS!!! I hate everything about this. They are intentionally ruining SPRINA…
Spencer has *HARD* daddy issues and he's Vicariously living through Ace with trying to resolve his abandonment issues! His "love & protection" of Ace is slowly becoming borderline Obsessive & Possessive! I love him and Trinia together, but maybe she needs to leave him alone and live his fantasy life with his Father's son and Esmeralda just so that she can get her memories back, and Prince Nicholas popping back up and they Both take Ace away from him leaving him truly alone. Maybe then he'll Finally grow up....
I said it months ago, they should bring in some competition for his ass. Give Ava some family, nephews and have one be into Trina. Or have Nicholas pop up with a new relative around Spencer’s age.
Slowly becoming!? It's already happened. Spencer is projecting his feelings about his father through his desparation to hold onto Ace. This is a sick position to put Spencer in, and unless he does snap out of it, he will spiral out of control when faced with the reality of losing Ace, which is what GH is setting up to do.
Spencer is being a Cassadine. They all have obsessive traits. His uncle Stefan was the same way with Nicholas. This story line is finally getting interesting. I love all things Cassadine and watched when they were all on their worst behaviour, this is mild.
First, thank you for this prompt posting. Second, I have to admit that Spencer's undying love and commitment to Ace is finally getting me to a point of concern that I never had before. How adamant Spencer is in being a part of Ace's life makes me feel that the only way he and Trina will ever have any kind of life together is if Ace proves not to actually be a Cassadine. I hate how my mind turned to the most horrible outcome that it could and that is Spencer just being a brother has absolutely no say so in the raising of Ace (which seems to bother him every time he is reminded of this by either Trina, Kevin, or even Esme herself) and the only way he could work around that is to become Ace's parent either through an adoption or through a marriage of convenience to Esme. Spencer has a way of leaping first and not caring about the outcome until later. He could be callous and immature enough to think that Trina in her love for him would go along with this as he explains it to her either BEFORE or AFTER he has undertaken the deed of marrying Esme. I truly hope that is not where this is leading because if it is then Trina should break up with Spencer for good and I will promptly stop watching and supporting them as a couple. GH IF that is where you are trying to take this storyline then that is most foul. 😠
This is exactly what I was trying to say and EVERYONE in SPRINA nation kept hitting me with I am not really a fan which is not true. It is just this dumb storyline I mean if he really wants to be Ace’s father then get back with Esme adopt Ace and be his father and leave Trina. If he wants to be with Trina then be with her and remember your role of just brother and that is it. When you have a child with Trina then you can have that say over how he is raised as his father (which is all Trina was trying to say yesterday).
I think he might marry Esme to make sure he can still be in Ace's life and if he does that. I will go back to the CBS soaps. Trina's heart will break if he does this, and I think she might go dark on him. Later Spencer will find out that Ace is not his brother and that he didn't listen to Trina, she will not be waiting for him. I hope Spencer will come to his senses before he loses the best thing ever in his life.
@@marshagreen9759 That is my fear of where this storyline is going which is what I have been trying to say all along. That he may get fed up with being reminded that he has no say which in turn he will make a bad decision and step up to be Ace’s father and get with Esme to lock it in. Then in his ridiculousness he will inform Trina that it is just for show and wants to keep their relationship going but hide it turning her into the side piece. In that case why did GH kill Rory…he could have been in a coma or just left. They killed Rory to put her with Spencer for one night in the sack so she could lose her virginity to put him back with Annabelle but add a baby. Why make Spencer the brother if really wanted him to be the father this storyline is BS. There was a chance to make him the father and he could have a say and whatever Trina would still be with Rory. This is utter nonsense and back a**wards of a story. At this point give the Beautiful Black Princess a real Prince so she can give Spencer the boot. And give Spencer his ex gf Annabelle it is who he really wants and his brother to raise as his son.
@@tkeisha24 I just hope Trina's wise words of love hit Spencer in the depths of his heart. I really want Spencer & Trina to survive as a couple and I know you have ups and downs in a relationship. This too shall pass but their love for each other will have to step in to protect them from breaking up. Love can conquer anything, and their love is magical.
GH writers please let go of this. Have Nik come back on some anti-hero villain arc where he terrorizes Esme and starts reclaiming his life (specifically with Spencer, Wyndemere, and Laura exclusively - not Ace). Nik’s presence should force Spencer to confront his severe daddy issues and abandonment issues and restore Esme’s memory. While Esme’s memory is restored she is pretending to still have amnesia but turning back into the villain the story needs. Once people catch on about Esme (and they WILL), Nik reveals that was his plan all along as he wants/wanted to help Spencer get justice by revealing the truth of Esme’s character. In his terrorization, he was secretly gathering information and did a DNA test. This heals a part of Spencer’s broken heart in regards to this father which is necessary because Nik also reveals that Ace is NOT a Cassadine. In Nik’s time away he realized that Ace was not his son, which explains why Nik was in no rush to return to Port Charles and why he terrorized Esme upon his return. Make Nik like his the man who raised him, Stefan, a Cassadine who ruins their own good intentions but LOVES his family. End this with NAC being able to take his break because Nik takes Spencer on a much needed trip around Europe learning about the Cassadine legacy - the way Nik did growing up, training in martial arts, riding horses, lording over castles etc. (while sending Trina letters to update her about what he’s learning and how he’s bonding with not only his father, but his heritage)
Well! Well! Well! I like your storyline a lot. I can even picture it as you wrote it. That would be a great way to tie this all up and far better than me thinking that Esme will run off with baby Ace and Spencer will go after her as an explanation for why he is no longer in Port Charles. I like yours FAR better!!!😅 Now if only the writers would incorporate this into their story I wouldn't mind so much, especially if Trina is still faithfully waiting for him when he returns.
Does anybody else wish the writers are still on strike? I really think they really hate the idea of Spencer and Trina. Cause they keep making shit like this to make them break up
0k I see the turn around rhat the writers are doing. Especially is back. She is upset that Spencer went on vacation with Trina, so she is using baby Ace ea a pawn to won Spencer and he is falling in the trap. Spencer is upset at what Trina told him and now he is hearing it again from Kevin. He is being manipulated and he doesn't even know it. The writers are getting viewers ro dislike Spencer to pull Spencer and Trina apart.
Watching these scenes back, OMG they had Spencer acting like a crazy person. Phew, they will have destroyed that character if fans didn't step up and say enough.
Looking back at old episodes, I came up with another reason why Spencer is so determined to be close to Ace. Yes he doesn’t wants him to have a father figure and doesn’t want him to feel abandoned like he did, but I think another major part is that he feels responsible for Nic not coming home. He threatened him with the information he got from Ava. The cops have information about him holding Esme, but Nic confessed to throwing her off the parapet. Now that I think about it, did he say when? Does Spencer think he did it when she escaped from Wyndemere or does he know that was back when she disappeared after the trial? Either way, besides the deep seated feelings of abandonment, there are feelings of guilt too b
That look from Kevin, when Spencer was standing at the elevator was pricless...he was like WTF!....what is happening with Spencer, holy shit is about to hit the fan, something is psychologically wrong with that boy.😂😂😂😂.....For me, seeing how Spencer acted in this scene, i think this obcession with his brother is more serious than we think.
I didn't agree with Spencer's behavior with Kevin not only is Kevin his grandfather by proxy of being married to his grandmother AND he is Esme and baby Ace's actual blood uncle since she IS the daughter of his twin, Ryan he is also a certified therapist, and he should have shown him the respect he is due on all those fronts. However, in that instance Spencer reverted to the entitled brat he had always been as a kid.
I feel like Spencer is about to have a breakdown. He does have abandonment issues and they are manifesting more. Esme is using that to her advantage. I hurt for Trina due to this man basically defends someone that set out to ruin your life. I am GH is going to lose a lot of viewers if the mess up SPRINA.
I will be leaving and my daughter said she would. She is a Days follower but loves this couple. Please GH get this couple back on track before NAC leaves to do his movie.
Why is spencer feels like he constantly needs to know what's going on with Ace 24/7 As kevin states he's not the father i have a feeling this gonna get ungly if Esme asserts more her rights as his mother with Spencer pulling out that false evidence
Spencer.... The cracks are beginning to show. PLEASE seek Kevin out for some THERAPY, because watching you manifest your abandonment issues through Ace is VERY painful to watch; as well as watching your sanity slowly becoming detatched from reality. 👀😒😢
@desmawalker556, he is still pissed off from the heated conversation with Trina, she grilled his butt with the truth. He needs help and he needs it quickly. I do not know if Trina's love for him will be enough. I think after Laura talked to him about his dad, something snapped in his brain and Kevin noticed something and so did Trina. Trina did not baby him but if he keeps this up, he will run off with Ace or something.
Yeah this is about to very get interesting. This behavior may coincide with NAC going off canvas for awhile to shoot his Ryan Murphy movie. Re: your Spencer might run off with Ace theory. I was scared at the way Kevin was looking at Spencer too. Kevin can get up someone's face sternly as well- he does have those Ryan Chamberlain genes Ha ha😆😅
Our boy is headed for a breakdown. He’s gonna spiral. I hope he can get it together before he hits rock bottom. When Nicholas comes back I believe him and Esme will raise Ace together and Spencer will be left out in the cold. I still say Ace isn’t even a Cassadine. If he isn’t… that would be a great way to end this story line and let Spencer have a more outward distain for Esme and for him to grieve the loss of being Ace’s brother. There’s no positive place for this to go for anyone.
@@CatchupGirl71the actors strike is still going on and the last meeting between SAG and execs went poorly. So speculation is the strike will drag on until next year. Although I want actors to be working I can’t lie and say I’m not happy that NAC will be on GH consistently a little longer. Hopefully long enough to wrap up this story line. So then maybe he can take a break, do his project and come back. Maybe send Spencer on a therapy retreat or something lol😊
The more Spencer acts like this the more I feel like Trina will walk away. He already isn't listening to what she's saying and Kevin is saying the same thing , but Trina is going to notice and Spencer will lash out at her and say that he feels like he has to choose. Things will hit Spencer hard when Esme decides to move out of Laura and Kevin's ; either live upstairs at Kelly's or find an apartment for her and Ace either way its going to leave him lost and confused. If its true that the regular writers are back then that means that Nicholas Chavez will be leaving soon to do his movie. They can write that Esme decides to be more independent, moves out, and doesn't lean on Laura, Kevin, and Spencer. Then that gives Spencer an out and he can decide to leave town for awhile to figure out who he is and what does he want for his future. He could tell Trina that he loves her and he wants her in his life and his future , but he needs to go and figure things out , so when he returns he is the man she loves and see a future with. If not then they can write Trina deciding to walk away until he realizes that he's becoming obsessive over Ace and needs to step back and let Esme really raise Ace. Then he can focus on his relationship with Trina.
She should walk away. Im a big SPRINA fan but not at the expense of Trina looking like a desperate clown waiting around like she can’t find someone better for her. It’s getting ridiculous. I can’t STAND Portia but I’m starting to see her point when it comes to Spencer doing nothing but hurting Trina. He makes bad decisions all of the time concerning their relationship. He puts her on the back burner to everything. He has completely forgotten about the fact that Esmè almost killed Trina then almost got her sent to prison- He doesn’t even CARE! He now has this WIERD obsession over this baby- and it’s going to turn into an obsession with Esmè- watch and see. And I’m going to stop watching…
I wouldn’t say he doesn’t care about what she did to Trina. He says all the time he’ll never forget but that she’s “duh duh duh different “ now. 🙄 lol Trina has said that she can handle being around Esme and that he shouldn’t worry about her. I think when Esme reverts back to her old self ( because it’s a matter of when, not if), protective Spencer would be back in action.
As she should!! She shouldn't be the side chick. And also this is a storyline repeat where Esme=Carly Ace=Michael Spencer=Jason Trina=Robin Nikolas= AJ I don't want to watch it!!
@hirleyoreggio9720, Trina told Spencer she was not making him abandon his baby brother but wanted him to think about their relationship. He tried to put that on her on Thursday and she broke it down to him. He was pissed and he latched out, but she was very blunt with him and stood her ground with him. Trina does have goals and she really loves Spencer, but she can't and will not put up with this Esme drama any longer. She can deal with Ace (he is a baby) but with this baby mama drama, she wants no part. I love them as a couple, but they have had too much friction for a young couple. Will Spencer be happy with Esme as his girlfriend again (heck no) but will he put up with it to be around Ace (most likely)? He will lose Trina and find out later that Ace is not his brother, and he lost his best friend and true love (Trina).
This story is something….At this point, I’m ready to see what happens when Nikolas comes back. Because until then I can’t really predict where this will go. But I truly dislike every direction this could possibly take. Not just for the characters and Sprina, but for NAC. This story has been a waste of his talents. Even if it suddenly flips and becomes decent, they still spent the better part of the last 8 months(minus Greenland/NYC) having him obsess over a baby. So thank god he has that project to look forward to once the actors strike is over bc GH has squanders his skill set. We’ll see where this goes. I don’t trust Frank or the writers. My only hope is we see a turnaround quickly bc we’ve been dealing with amnesia esme for over ten months and that baby for 8. Until then, I think I’m going to do a rewatch of some of Sprina’s better story arcs.
"I'm perfectly capable of taking care of my own son" - Exhausting. Really? That's interesting because just a couple of weeks ago, she was complaining about Ace teething, washing/folding his laundry, changing his diaper, her being exhausted 24/7, etc., and her constantly running to Spencer to handle everything, NOW all of a sudden, she's "capable of taking care of her own son"? Girl, BYE! 😒🙄
Spencer my man, you just had a conversation with your lady Trina, and she told you. Ace is your brother, and you are acting very strange concerning him, snap out of this fog that you are in. Thanks for this review.
@@CatchupGirl71 I didn’t see it as intimidating. He’s a psychiatrist. I think he was worried about Spencer’s reaction. He sees how desperate he is to be in Ace’s life. He also may be concerned for Esme. He commented that she had nothing other than Ace. Now she’s trying to be independent, he sees Spencer still trying to control her actions to keep his place in Ace’s life. You are right, it there might be a showdown at Laura’s. Some form of intervention.
Spencer has major daddy issues. I think his obsession with stepping up to play the father role to Ace is his subconscious way of trying to prove to himself that he's a better man and can be a better father to Ace than Nikolas. It's like he's trying to recreate the life he wanted as a child of having an active father and living vicariously through Ace by playing daddy. It's actually scary, and weird to see, and Spencer needs intense therapy. Everybody keeps telling him he's not the father but he's not budging and if he doesn't get it together it will be at the expense of his relationship with Trina. I think Trina will give him an ultimatum it's her or Ace and Spencer will choose Ace. They'll probably temporarily break up, Nikolas will come back to step up, and they'll all probably find out Ace ain't even a Cassadine to begin with 😂
The gag is, Nikolas was an active father when Spencer was a child. Spencer wants to conveniently forget that. Spencer didn’t go away to boarding school until he was older and Nikolas was presumed dead (after Valentin shot him- how everyone forgets). The clips literally exist on YT lol Nikolas was always there for Spencer, now he’s being re-written as an awful father. Allowing Spencer to think he was dead was wrong, however, that doesn’t erase everything that came before. Spencer just doesn’t want to let go of his anger.
I see where the writers are going with this. Esme Will be in the forefront. She never lost her memory. She has been manipulating everyone from the beginning. Starting with Laura allowing her to stay at her home with Ace. It was so she could be close to Spencer.I remember that episode, when she said, I wonder what’s keeping your brother (Spencer was at the elevator with Trina). This is classic manipulation (taught to her by her dad). Trina is getting set up by the writers. Trina is telling Spencer the truth but his is already in Esme’s clutches. Esme has pretended to be this newly reformed , nice , young lady and baby mama, and Spencer has sucked it up. And if you look at it very close, she used Ace almost every time (except when Dex beat Spencer up). It is clear that the writers are breaking up Spencer and Trina because Spencer is too obsessed with Ace, he is defending Esme, and getting angry with Kevin and Trina.
I wanted to slap Spencer!! Boy, you're too much, and rude!! Because Spencer is rich, he thinks he doesn't have to listen to people with wisdom and gets to do whatever he wants. That's a turn-off for me. He needs therapy, a job, a male friend, and other interests in his life.
@222tresor, Trina already told him, and he got up in her face and she did not back down. He is still pissed from their conversation earlier. If she ever has a kid by him, he will watch her like a hawk.
@@marshagreen9759 And you know what's interesting? Spencer is using Esme. Manipulating her by playing nice and playing house so he can have full access to Ace. He doesn't even see that he's participating in that behavior either.
I do support Spencer, except in this instance . Ace has a father and a mother . Spencer disregard that fact , I think he going to be very disappointed when this whole mess isover. You cannot take over someone else’s life because yours didn’t work out the way you wanted . you would have wanted . He simply doesn’t look at the situation the way it is. Its unhealthy for Spencer and every one involved in this mess. I appreciate WHY he wants to do this but he is OVER board. Spencer wants to pretend that his father matter, doesn’t . . . care . How world would he know. He won’t give the man a chance ! I just feel like when his father gets in involved , its Spencer who will be left out . If Esme becomes more independent she WILL put rules and regulations about HER son, weather Spencer likes it or not. and again he will be left out. . but it will be Spencer's fault no one else will be to blame. I will add just one more thing . I hate baby storylines in soaps! They are a waste of time.
I think Kevin is concerned because he sees that Esme doesnt have a life of her own, which makes her fixate on Spencer. He wants Spencer to step back, but he keeps acting like he is the father, which is fueling Esme's fantasy of them being a real nuclear family. She will see Trina as a threat to her "family" and try to get rid of her.
Omg 1. Spencer has no life 2. I actually agree with Es(motional) distress it’s her child and whatever she says goes doesn’t matter if they had a parenting class and agreed on some things. If she has to uno reverse all the time hey I’m for it because nothing is getting through to him. 3. The harsh reality Kevin gave him should’ve been harsher. Trina literally gave him the same lecture and truth minutes ago and he’s defensive (because he knows it’s true and he can’t control it). This episode just further proved that Spencer has no life. Being a chauffeur, knowing his appointments and wanting to go to them and he literal said he doesn’t care if he’s a brother OR a FATHER FIGURE what! He needs a friend and therapy. 4. Esme never changed the slick comment she made about Spencer seeing his GF just proves she playing a game. One moment it’s “I don’t need no one’s help I can be a single mother by myself” and the nexts is “ I need help, where’s Spencer” every time she switches up it’s because he’s with Trina. 5. I can’t wait for Nicholas to come back and when he does I think that he’ll maneuver his way out of jail hopefully it’s evidence against Esme and a show down with Spencer.
What’s next Spencer? Legal adoption? Ace was looking 👀 at Spencer like, what kind of caffeine you on today, Dude? That’s right, he went for coffee earlier…
Ace was looking at Spencer strangely. Spencer was on a high because Trina heated his butt up on Thursday and was ready to slap the heck out of him with that clap of hands. She told him to Snap Out of It (Spencer was so startled at what she said).
Isn't Kevin a therapist or a psychiatrist? I forgot. But being fresh off the hunt for Nicholas with Laura, he probably can see what Spencer's obsession with Ace is really about. His trauma around loss and abandonment has been triggered. Spencer thinks he's just determined but it's giving "I have to be in control." His conversation with Trina has not sunk in yet. If Ace is one of the few sources of happiness and purpose for Spencer right now then the thought of losing him may have him shook. They gotta find him a job...quick.
He was pissed at his girl, and she got the best of him. He did take it out on Esme & Kevin but with Trina, a different story. When he was raising his arms to touch her, she clapped her hands, and Spencer backed away. Sister girl was about to slap him into daylight. Trina is just darn fed up with Esme & Spencer. He should at least try to understand Trina's feelings after they declared their love and made love for the very first time.
LMMN, first thank you. Now, did I get this straight? Spencer truly implied that he was fed up with Trina also, she being one of the few people who keep telling him that he is not Ace's brother for his own sake. What happened to 'the woman I LOVE' ? 'the LOVE of my life' ? How can he be so happy going to Kelly's to celebrate? The woman slept with his father, HIS FATHER!! (no matter Ace being his son or brother) !! And the day before, he said to Trina that he knew that he's Ace's brother not his dad and now he does not mind being either option for him? Well, well, well. Spencer character sure won the Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding nonsensical Performance ever. I'm out. Be back when and if GH starts writing more consistent and realistic scripts. This sucks.
I think Spencer told Kevin he was fed up with people telling him he was not Ace's father. He was mad at Trina, but sister girl broke it down to him, he dared to go off on her, she was ready for him, and he saw the look on her face. He took it out on Esme and Kevin. Esme had to say something smart about Trina, my man Spencer, you are being played by the pro (Esme) and you will lose your love and best friend (Trina).
@@lisemeunier9696 I am so proud of Trina, she got everything off of her chest. Spencer forgot that he told Trina to talk to him when she went over for lunch and Esme thought it was for them. So, when Trina voices her opinion, Spencer looks so dam shocked and asks her where this is coming from. Maybe Spencer thought that Trina would not say anything, but she did.
@@marshagreen9759 I forgot that too!! I remember him telling her, in the gallery, before she agreed to go to NYC with him that Esme was not his concern... This script is sooo inconsistent. As a fully committed Sprina fan, I feel let down and betrayed by the deceitful writers.
Spencer Needs To LEAVE Esme & Ace ALONE, He Needs To Focus On His Relationship with Trina. Spencer & Nikolas Are Not Ace's Father, They Need To Realize That By Now. I Hope That The Truth Comes Out About Ace's Biological Father. 💯🙌
When Esme agrees with common sense, you know you're in the Twilight zone. The entire Cassadine family is an endless Paso Double flexing, strutting and taking whatever it is they want with varying degrees of concern for others. Spencer has been adamant about keeping his sibling away from his father since January. This is the extension of the legal battle that never commenced. Peter Pan here has a stubborn streak that screams, "No! I won't give up my baby brother!" Spencer needs to worry about Trina and his future. He can't stay in his Neverland fantasy of having a perfect family. This is wish fulfillment at its finest. Phantom sings, "I Won't Grow Up" and "Some things never change" 👻🎻. ua-cam.com/video/nVW9QOIeqQg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Looks like Spencer is about to blow ... Eventually he will need counseling from all the bowl of crazy he has been through in his life ... No mother a semi crazed irresponsible father who cheated with his own sons would be girlfriend who's been groomed by two very insane ruthless serial killers took advantage of Spencer from the start ... Just adding on to hurt and anxiety fear he's projecting on to what he thinks might happen to ace ..... Actually I hope esmee gets a chance to move out far away as she been said in the past ... She knows how insane being around the cascidine men are ... Wait til Nicolas comes back with all that vengeance in his mind .... 😢😢😢...
And the original writers are back sigh 😔 Well, thanks for what we got with the temp writers. Now that the old crew is back, this is when i get off this sad ride 😢 Kevin is her Uncle, soooooo that alone tine with her ( in this scene) I am sure he "analyzed" her but then again she is his NIECE......! So what he tells Spencer is from what he saw IN HIS NIECE a brewing
@@marshagreen9759 I see a family battle for Ace coming up. When Nikolas gets back in town it's gonna be ON! And wait, until they find out Ace ain't even a Cassadine! Cause I don't think he is.
Toxic. Toxic. Toxic. Spencer is about to combust. I'm glad the viewers aren't the only ones recognizing that Spencer has an unhealthy attachment to this scenario. Like Trina said, get yourself some business.
Kevin is just trying to place some reality with Spencer, just like Trina tries. Spencer isn't seeing the reality of his situation. The group gave Esme the green light and her power. She can do what she wants with Ace. Spencer, son, you have no power. Get over yourself because Kevin is right. Your lives will begin to diverge. And soon!🤔😔
Ridiculous. And Esme has to bring Trina in this. She did this on purpose and Spencer to come running like a puppy. I can't with this mess of a storyline 😂😂
The way Ace looks at Spencer, even he doesn’t like him 😂😂😩😩 I agree with all the comments, Spencer is becoming obsessed with Ace and sadly this might end up being Sprina’s downfall. I don’t see Trina having patience for this foolery 🤦🏾♀️
I dnt think its an obsession but i think he keeps losing ppl and Ace is the only biological immediate family member he has left .having ur grandmother and uncle isnt the same as mother father sister brother and even worse he considered Cam his brother and Cam is no longer around thats why he said Ace and Trina are the only ones that make him happy . I think both their innocence makes him feel safe cause he knows they both will never use him or deceive him.Ace cause hes a baby and Trina cause of her character shes proven it through actions time and time again.
I totally agree with you, however being a Cassadine, it is a slippery slope from love and concern to obsession. I just hope that Spencer doesn't ending up exhibiting all of the bad Cassadine traits that Nikolas ended up doing and Nikolas had been the very best of the male Cassadines.
Word indeed. I'm over Esme and this jealousy over Trina and Spencer. We like Trina and Spencer and I want Ace to not be a cassadine just so we can move on and they focus on putting Esme with someone other than Spencer. She'd be less annoying of a character if she wants someone else. The writers need to do something about Esme. Ryan's face says it all. As long as he plays daddy to Ace, Esme will be a problem for him and Trina. Either get rid of Esme, or prove this kid isn't a cassadine so she's out the way without being killed off the show.
Why Spencer just listen to his girlfriend Trina and Kevin that Ace is not his responsibility. Man, I hope he takes his own son with Trina in the future. If not then his own will have all the smokes for him
They NEED to STOP THIS STORYLINE NOW with Spencer over obsessing over Ace. THE WRITERS going this route is putting an end to the SPRINA relationship so I’ll just continue to browse. I don’t want to start back watching again just to be subjected to THIS FOOLERY.
If there's a choice between being with Ace and being with Trina, who do you think he would choose? I remember a conversation he had with Trina at Kelly's diner about being a single and taking care of Spencer and everything Trina told him about taking care of a child with having no experience with children and learning at the expense of the child and he was like he could do that. So why isn't he letting Esme do it? If she's such a good mom, live her alone. Of course she could have some support from Laura but she is a grown woman let her learn on her own too.
Well SprinaNation Family apparently -GH don't care about the thousands of #Sprina fans how we feel about the rotten things being done to this beautiful coupling !
Spencer need a male friend were is Cameron ? Am so piss off by the way there writing Spencer character knowing dame well that nic will soon be leaving for goodness sake give the couple a break!
I’m sad for Spencer. 😔 Sad that he’s so damaged and blinded that this is all he can see for himself. He’s spiraling, which could be a good thing if it means movement in this damn story. Something needs to happen. We probably won’t like whatever it is though. 😏 Spencer just came back from that magical weekend with Trina and got hit with confirmation that his father has abandoned him yet again, and not only him, but Ace. Just like Spencer has been saying he would. So that’s sending him into hyper protective mode anyway. Then he goes to see Trina the next day ( like he said he would 👍🏻), and she hits him with some truth bombs that he’s not ready to hear yet. I hope it’s percolating there in his stubborn head, but right now he’s all impulse and reaction. This is Spencer’s usual mode anyway. Then he gets hit with it yet again from Kevin, who has had a hand in raising him too as well, right? Laura & Kevin raised him those years Nik was gone. He knows Kevin to be a reasonable and logical man, so he knows what he is saying is true but again, not ready to face it. We need to be calling and writing the show and executives and tell them we want this dumb obsession to end. I can’t see this story going anywhere good unless they just turn around his thinking about Ace.
I just hope they are not trying to turn him into one of those dark Cassadines who no one can tame or change except for the woman they love until she can't even do it anymore which is why most Cassadine men always end up alone.
Not watchin this again once is enough thankgod for special breaking news so was able to miss most of this wasted 5 mins which could being given to vanna or Laura and her grand daughter even drew and liz i would prefer.
I can’t stand Spencer. I know a lot of people give him slack because of his looks but looks do fade and they way he treats Trina is BS. I truly hope people stop defending him when he does the slightest little jester to Trina then all seems forgiven until the next BS thing he does. Frankly I’m just tired of him and Esme and Laura and Alexis and Kristina they all just should live happily every after on Greenland.
I adore Sprina but by no means am I giving Spencer a pass he has his many many faults ,deep down as much as I love them together to me Trina deserves so much better a man whose truly devoted to her, not this "older brother/baby daddy nonsense", Gh needs to get that man a job,at least do something with his life instead of focusing on his weird ass obsession
Spencer got a HUGE daddy issue! And it’s so annoying to see. And he WILL lose Trina… it’s sad to see how blinded he is. Like is it really all about ace or you love playing house with his mother as well. Which is making think about where the writers are taking this story … please let it not be that Spencer is the father.
Hey Sprina fans, we can see the writing on the wall SMH Spencer‘s obsession with his little brother is going to destroy his relationship with Trina. But I guess we have to remember. He is a Cassadine, the arrogant SOB’s 😅😅
Lol. I know right! They are something else once crossed and now that Spencer is more secure in Trina's love, he may start letting her see more of his bad Cassadine genes. Poor Trina may want to run for the hills!!!
It’s interesting that everyone thinks Spencer’s abandonment is from Nikolas (who disappeared when he was a teen), but no one ever considers the void he has from never having a mother 🤔
These writers and FV for (GH) Got Spencer acting like he can't be with out his brother. Ace. Okay I guess these writers and FV were trying to find some way. For SPRINA to be Happy for a weekend. I guess we can say that. So all the SPRINA Fans. Can finally be Happy for the Beautiful couple. We will let Spencer take. Trina on a romantic trip to NYC. Which was wonderful. They both tell each other. I ❤ you. Had Dinner went to see a show made ❤ for the 1st time. Had breakfast before they left. To come back to (PC). Get back Spencer takes Trina back over to her mom Poria and Curtis home. Spencer goes back to his (GM) Laura's house. Where her and Kevin have returned back from. Looking for Nikolas. When Spencer says. Ive missed you grandmother. Than Esme walks in says Oh you back. The look on Esme and Laura face was priceless. Especially when he was telling them about his trip to NYC with Trina. They didn't want to here about his romantic trip to NYC with Trina. But Kevin didnt mind hearing about it. He even told Spencer that it was good for him and Trina to get away. And have some alone time together. Kevin was Happy for them. Not so much Esme and Laura. This is when everything hit the FAN. When Laura told Spencer. That his father might still be alive. Now everything for SPRINA went from being Awesome to Oh Hell Naw. My father is alive. I can't concentrate. On Trina right now. Think about our plans and future together. Since I know my father is out there somewhere alive. I ❤ you. But also love Ace too. These writers for GH. Sure know how to mess up a Good Thing. For SPRINA. Now Im guessing there going to make. Spencer can not be out his brother Ace. He wants to know all about his doctor's appointment (s). Ok Spencer when is this going to sink into your head. You are not Ace father. You are his brother. All these things that. Trina and Kevin was saying to him about Ace. It just seems like it was going in one ear and out the other. He was listening to what they both were saying to him about. Ace. And than he wasn't listening. Spencer has a mind of his own. Right now. Its not a very good one. Spencer keeps telling Trina. Esme is a good mother. To Ace. If that's the case. Why can't you moved out of your GM house. Get your own place. Spencer. If you claim you trust Esme and she a good mother to your brother. I can not wait for Nikolas to show back up. When he do. All Hell is gonna break loose. Especially when Nikolas try to get custody of his son Ace. That is going to break Spencer's ❤. That is why Trina and Kevin is trying to get Spencer to see. His dad Nikolas can pop up any minute. In (PC) Spencer I know you love your brother. But his dad your dad is coming back. I cant wait. Maybe this time he can concentrate on Trina. The woman who supposed to be the ❤ of his Life. Unless (GH) have something else going on for SPRINA. The only thing. Ive have left to say is. If Esme wasn't pregnant or had a baby by Spencer's dad Nikolas or who ever she had the baby by. Spencer would not be acting like this towards Ace. If Esme didnt get pregnant and have a baby. He would be all up in Trina's face. Syndey the old Trina/ Taby the new Trina. He wouldn't even be thinking about Ace. Like he doing now. His first priority would be Trina. I remember one episode. When Joss had asked Spencer. Why wasn't he with Trina. He said because of Portia. Trina mom. Than I remember him saying. Trina will always be my number 1 priority. Spencer are you going back on your word. Because its seems to me. That Ace is your number one priority right now. I know you ❤ Trina. But you need to wake up Spencer. Your living in a fantasy world. I just hope Trina will be there for Spencer when all this stuff about who is the father of Ace and DNA Test. Because he is really going to need her to lean on. Good Morning SPRINA FAMILY. Happy Saturday to you All..
Spencer you really disappoint me you really disappoint me wake up and smell the coffee you're not the baby's father you're the baby's brother and nobody can come over here and say otherwise without proof If you don't have proof don't waste my time come on here talking about Spencer it could be the baby's father show me the proof if you don't have the proof that Spencer is a baby's father I don't want to hear I'm tired of people coming on here thinking they know what they talking about when they don't know what they're talking about I'm quite sure everyone has their own opinion I like most opinions are like diapers they have to be changed every day and thrown away out all the time straighten up and fly right now she's going to lose everything that you worked hard to get it was all gone remember that so wake up and smell the coffee😮😮😅
Well if everybody in town is telling Spencer the same thing (I'm sure Laura will be letting him know next) that means Spencer is going to be in for a rude and soapy goodness rude awakening very, very soon.
@@2muchttvv830 Spencer did not win the trick on Esme back when he was trying to collect information to help Trina out. I do not think he will want his father's help.
I really hope they bring Nikolas back and soon cuz this whole storyline with Spencer and Ace is getting ridiculous I know his intentions are good but what is gonna happen if or when Nikolas does come back;Then things really will get interesting but so far this whole storyline with Spencer and Ace is getting boring ;they need to get Spencer to move out and get his own place already and start acting like the kids brother and not his father
This is ridiculous. I understand his father’s not around, but he’s acting more like the kid dad than the kid brother, which is weird.
@natatliepinkston4868 Totally agree! I really wish they would stop dragging this because he's not father he's been getting on my nerves since the beginning I really hope nikolas returns soon even though I still have my doubts he's nikolas I feel like ace is a cassadine considering who esme was and she would want the money and what her son to have money but right nikolas is the father and I hope he will return soon because spencer is getting on my nerves it is weird he needs to start like a brother .
@@pamelaharris-murphy2442 I agree I don’t think ace is Nicolas kid. I hope Spencer wake up soon.
To be honest, the Cassadines are a weird bunch.
@@le2800 Well, they have been weird for 40 years+
@nataliepinkston4868 I agree, and hopefully, the truth comes out soon.
Esme knows exactly what she’s doing with creating boundaries with Spencer. She’s using ace as a tool to lure Spencer closer to her and his brother.
4:04 Kevin looking at Spencer like, "this fool is insane playing brother-daddy." I love Kevin's looks 😂
Kevin’s looks are hilarious and scary to me because he has Ryan’s face!😂
😅😅
Well Kevin knows esme is using it to control Spencer.
I want Nikolas to come back and NOT serve one second for holding E against her will. If she ain’t serving time for the stuff she’s done why should he…..
Agree! & he held her in a wing of a lavish castle w/ service too......the f**king horror. 🙄🙄
What is the problem Spencer??? Esme lives with the Mayor and her husband a Doctor, esme is not handicapped so leave it alone
This is classic Cassidine obsession.
Big brother please leave the lads alone
Okay while Spencer is being way too extreme with Ace, Esme's facial expression when mentioning Trina says everything.
I saw, heard that too
Yup, disdain with a side of eye roll...
Oh she most definitely didn’t tell him because of Trina. She may pull Ace away as he gets closer to Trina. At the end of the day, Spencer needs to accept that he’s not that boy’s father or cut Trina loose and attach himself to Esme for the rest of his life! This is not sustainable!
@@la214la If Spencer cut Trina loose, he will be an unhappy soul with Esme. I will leave this soap and go back to CBS.
This is so silly GH has made a horrible
mistake by casting down the #Sprina storyline to build up Esme ! Why ? As my grandmother would say it's a dead cat on the line 🙄 😒 I believe the other soap operas are laughing at how GH the big wigs are destroying their own ratings because #Sprina is loved with great respect with a big following 👏 ❤ !!! The whole Esme storyline is filthy no pay off for what she has done is ridiculous! Look at Spencer's
character has cha
Yeah, I'm 100% rooting for Nikolas to do what that man has to do to take Ace or get a DNA test, and end this miserable storyline.
@Dee-jp6no Totally agree! I'm ready for this story to end over ace spencer needs new storyline it's about ace like come he's the father.
ESME NEEDS TO GO HER AND THAT BABY
Spencer really needs to live his own life! What kind of sibling is so involved in their siblings life like this
When the mother has committed atrocities in the past and is clearly using Ace as leverage, I can understand why an older sibling would be worried.
But Spencer isn’t handling the situation correctly, since he legally has no parental whatsoever. I hope the writers will get rid of this Ace storyline ASAP.
@@cutielovelypinkiedifference been that this is not the same Esme
The only logical ending I see is Esme and Ace leaving port charles
@martinmorles1 Same! Esme should decide to leave port charles with ace spencer needs to worry about his life and future I'm rooting for her to leave town with ace.
Crazy and obsessed Cassadines. I guess that dark and obsessive Cassadine trait is definitely rearing its ugly head in Spencer now. Stefan was one of the more easy- going Cassadines and yet his love of Nicholas bordered on near obsessive. He practically dedicated his entire life to Nicholas and his love life took back seat to his nephew.
Spencer has a co-dependant and extremely unhealthy relationship with Ace. It's loving and brotherly but borders on obsession. And it's tied up in his own psychological journey: all about what he went through with Nikolas, , what he wanted in his life and didn't get. It actually has NOTHING to do with Ace. Who won't even remember any of this period of his life when gets older. Spencer needs therapy asap, Trina and more healthy, boundary defined relationship with Ace.
And that little dig at Trina was so uncalled for . Girl you had plenty opportunities to take care of that child by yourself and at every turn you made sure to live in the little bubble where spencer is aces dad. Ugh
I did not like that little comment. Maybe she & Spencer need to be together. Kevin noticed Spencer and so did Trina. I think Nicholas has been away too long, come and claim your baby boy.
Nik will come back, and that will begin the separation process. Now who will separate is the question!
This is what happened when you fall in love for a baby. It can be overwhelming
@@vanessawacleche383 That is not even his baby.
Can Esme just remind herself that she slept with Spencer's DAD! Whether Ace is a Cassadine or not (and I don't think he is) that would make you permanent kryptonite toward Spencer. And his family. I love how everybody is just forgiving all of this insanity plus her laundry list of crimes. It ain't that complicated. None of this foolishness would be going on in my house. Time for folks to wake up
I pray that the look Kevin is giving is not only because of Spencer, but also because he see's what Esme is doing!😡
You've Got Me Curious About Kevin Looking At Esme About What She's Doing. What Is It That She's Doing That I Am Not Seeing. Do You Have Any Idea What She Is Doing, Because I Don't Know What It Is She's Doing 🤔
Spencer obsession is a Cassadine trait and I hate it. He will mess up things with Trina himself and Esme will take full advantage of it
Spencer does not need to know everything Ace does
I know a lot of fans say Spencer’s obsession with ace stems from abandonment issues but what I see is typical cassadine traits like obsessions with people or things showing up in spencer. It’s really concerning seeing spencer pretty much get in Kevin’s face when Kevin was just trying to state the obvious and that is he is not aces father. What’s also concerning is that spencer doesn’t see that esme only now is becoming independent since his trip with Trina has already happened. Prior to nyc esme couldn’t do anything herself including caring for ace now she wants to attend doctors appointments because she is ace is mother and can care for him best. I can see spencer becoming so consumed by this strange obsession that he looses Trina because he marries esme to keep his place in Esme’s life. The gh writers are forcing this spencer wants to make sure ace isn’t abandoned nonsense so they can hide behind the fact that they never really intended on making spencer and Trina the endgame viewers thought they would be.
Exactly. If they have followed the Cassadine history, then this is normal for them lol.
@@pb4ugo19 I never followed the history until Spencer & Trina came on the scene. Spencer got up in Trina's face earlier, but she did not back down. So, this is a control factor from all the Cassadines in history? This is interesting to know, but he can't have it his way, he has to give some.
@@marshagreen9759A LONG history w/ obsession and control. It doesn't usually end well. With Spencer's particular storyline, he's a dope like his dad, but I don't trust that this whole charade isn't part of Esme's plan. Sometimes I wonder if Victor may have something to do w/ this being that he's pulling crap w/ Charlotte too.
@@marshagreen9759 Yes the controlling men in Cassadine history goes all the way back to Laura. She abandoned Nikolas on Cassadine Island to go back to Luke in the 80s and Stephan Cassadine helped to raise Nikolas as a infant and I believe he was instrumental with keeping Laura away from him for years until he was a teenager. The Cassadine men love to take the kids away from the mothers and raise them alone. They have no regard for the mothers/women. Just as Victor disregarded Esme like an afterthought when he kidnapped Ace. The Cassadine men only care about male heirs and keeping their lines going. The women/mothers in the baby's lives don't really matter.
Now, for Spencer it seems they are going more the abandonment/daddy issues route in the telling of this story, but that is still a thread in this storyline that goes back decades.
@@CatchupGirl71 Didn't Helena kill her own daughter? She killed Alexis' mom. Flashbacks on UA-cam was showing it. You NAILED IT! That is their History. Been a watcher for a decades but I did stop for a few years. When, I came back, Nikolas was being introduced to Laura and her family with Luke ( I speed watched to get caught up. There are points I still need clearing on). Cassidine woman are just a means to an end. Helena was married into the family but she preserved the Bloodline until death
Why everytime sprina has a beautiful moment they have to go right back to this annoying storie.
Thank you for loading this because this is up for debate. While I'm not happy with the way Spencer seems to be obsessing, let's talk about Ms. ESME. I'm sick of this character and this storyline. She is hell-bent on being a family unit until Spencer doesn't bend to her will. She was perfectly fine with going to Kelly's just the three of them but she HAD to remind him that she's Ace's mother because she's low key booty hurt he went to NYC and was visiting Trina. Esme did that on purpose, and both Trina and Kevin provided sound advice that Spencer is ignoring. His persistence to provide this faux family unit is dangerous because, in Esme's mind, it is Ace, Spencer (her man/baby daddy), and herself. Trina once again is placed in a dangerous situation where Esme feels she must remove her. Spencer's action will come back and bite him square in the axx. He thought the revenge porn and framing Trina was bad. Esme is going to up her antics much higher than before. Unfortunately, there will be major ramifications left when Esme does her damage again in Port Charles. Laura, Alexis, Gregory, and Portia all have given Esme an ear and a pass. I'm ready for Ace and Esme storyline to wrap up, but GH writers have a way to drag a storyline cause Nell and Peter were on longer than anyone wanted them to be.
Exactly. The writers need fix this immediately
@flacagonzales, 100% right my sister. Esme is sly like a fox and slick like Rick. If Trina & Kevin can see what is happening with Spencer, why can't Spencer see what is happening? Esme is already upping her antics, but I am now thinking Trina might have something up her sleeves. Trina was very bold with Spencer, and I think she is dam tired of Esme, what if she turns the table on Esme in a sneaky way.
@@marshagreen9759 Spencer is in too deep to see his own behavior or actions. It's like an addict, he has tunnel vision right now on Ace. Somebody has to wake him, shake him and snap him out of it. Ultimately, I think it will be Trina.
@@marshagreen9759she is a detective in the making after all. One of her many talents to read people and find clues.
@@CatchupGirl71 For a minute when Trina clapped her hands, when Spencer lifted his hands towards her shoulder, he stepped back. Trina, I thought was going to slap the heck out of him and she later was tender with him, grabbing his hands. He was pissed that Trina spoke up for the first time and he could not out-talk her. Trina showed she didn't give a dam if Esme was a good mom or not, her concern was their relationship. She broke it down to him and was blunt in telling him. Later Spencer was pissed from Trina's conversation and got mad at Esme & Kevin. I did not like Esme dig at Trina and Spencer needed to pay attention as he is losing sight of the real Esme. You have been fooled once Spencer, Trina told you that last year, don't get fooled again, my man.
Spencer is giving "fatal attraction" vibes (I'm sure there is a better term here lol, but you know what I mean...an eeriness) over Ace. It's going to be a nasty battle when Nikolas reemerges. Just like Nikolas, Spencer doesn't think about the big picture. This will backfire on him, and he will eventually lose everyone in the process, including Trina. It will be delicious if it turns out that Ace isn't even a Cassadine after all is said & done.
@pb4ugo19, Spencer will go nuts.
I hope the latter is true in the end. I want to see Nikolas and Spencer start mending their relationship.
I don't get why fans want Esme to remember cause that would just amplify Spencer obsession also it would feel like repeating old stuff & divert the story's direction.
Instead I feel Spencer will become more obsessed to the point of using that fake evidence on Esme which will backfire and she be exonerated for her crimes and she leaves port charles afterwards.
@@martinmorles1 I don't know if Esme will regain her memory back or if she is faking, but obsession/control is a big trait and common theme in Cassadine history. Idk how this SL will end, but I don't believe it will end in Spencer's favor.
That’s the storyline I WANT SO BAD!! But they wouldn’t DARE give SPRINA fans the satisfaction of having that outcome.
GH hates Trina and Spencer. I don’t care about New York. New York is a lot like Sonny and Nina’s wedding. Doing all of these amazing things for them as a couple isn’t to make them a stronger couple or to give them a happily ever after…
it’s just so the fall out between Trina and Spencer can be 10 times Worse- Thats all New York was. A young couple who just experienced something like that wouldn’t be able to stay away from each other or keep their hands off each other, yet it’s like New York NEVER HAPPENED!
Whoever is writing this storyline SUCKS!!!
I hate everything about this. They are intentionally ruining SPRINA…
Spencer has *HARD* daddy issues and he's Vicariously living through Ace with trying to resolve his abandonment issues! His "love & protection" of Ace is slowly becoming borderline Obsessive & Possessive! I love him and Trinia together, but maybe she needs to leave him alone and live his fantasy life with his Father's son and Esmeralda just so that she can get her memories back, and Prince Nicholas popping back up and they Both take Ace away from him leaving him truly alone. Maybe then he'll Finally grow up....
I said it months ago, they should bring in some competition for his ass. Give Ava some family, nephews and have one be into Trina. Or have Nicholas pop up with a new relative
around Spencer’s age.
Slowly becoming!? It's already happened. Spencer is projecting his feelings about his father through his desparation to hold onto Ace. This is a sick position to put Spencer in, and unless he does snap out of it, he will spiral out of control when faced with the reality of losing Ace, which is what GH is setting up to do.
I like them traveling around and him sending Trina letters.
Spencer is being a Cassadine. They all have obsessive traits. His uncle Stefan was the same way with Nicholas. This story line is finally getting interesting. I love all things Cassadine and watched when they were all on their worst behaviour, this is mild.
First, thank you for this prompt posting. Second, I have to admit that Spencer's undying love and commitment to Ace is finally getting me to a point of concern that I never had before. How adamant Spencer is in being a part of Ace's life makes me feel that the only way he and Trina will ever have any kind of life together is if Ace proves not to actually be a Cassadine. I hate how my mind turned to the most horrible outcome that it could and that is Spencer just being a brother has absolutely no say so in the raising of Ace (which seems to bother him every time he is reminded of this by either Trina, Kevin, or even Esme herself) and the only way he could work around that is to become Ace's parent either through an adoption or through a marriage of convenience to Esme. Spencer has a way of leaping first and not caring about the outcome until later. He could be callous and immature enough to think that Trina in her love for him would go along with this as he explains it to her either BEFORE or AFTER he has undertaken the deed of marrying Esme. I truly hope that is not where this is leading because if it is then Trina should break up with Spencer for good and I will promptly stop watching and supporting them as a couple. GH IF that is where you are trying to take this storyline then that is most foul. 😠
This is exactly what I was trying to say and EVERYONE in SPRINA nation kept hitting me with I am not really a fan which is not true. It is just this dumb storyline I mean if he really wants to be Ace’s father then get back with Esme adopt Ace and be his father and leave Trina. If he wants to be with Trina then be with her and remember your role of just brother and that is it. When you have a child with Trina then you can have that say over how he is raised as his father (which is all Trina was trying to say yesterday).
I think he might marry Esme to make sure he can still be in Ace's life and if he does that. I will go back to the CBS soaps. Trina's heart will break if he does this, and I think she might go dark on him. Later Spencer will find out that Ace is not his brother and that he didn't listen to Trina, she will not be waiting for him. I hope Spencer will come to his senses before he loses the best thing ever in his life.
Exactly. All of this.
@@marshagreen9759 That is my fear of where this storyline is going which is what I have been trying to say all along. That he may get fed up with being reminded that he has no say which in turn he will make a bad decision and step up to be Ace’s father and get with Esme to lock it in. Then in his ridiculousness he will inform Trina that it is just for show and wants to keep their relationship going but hide it turning her into the side piece. In that case why did GH kill Rory…he could have been in a coma or just left. They killed Rory to put her with Spencer for one night in the sack so she could lose her virginity to put him back with Annabelle but add a baby. Why make Spencer the brother if really wanted him to be the father this storyline is BS. There was a chance to make him the father and he could have a say and whatever Trina would still be with Rory. This is utter nonsense and back a**wards of a story. At this point give the Beautiful Black Princess a real Prince so she can give Spencer the boot. And give Spencer his ex gf Annabelle it is who he really wants and his brother to raise as his son.
@@tkeisha24 I just hope Trina's wise words of love hit Spencer in the depths of his heart. I really want Spencer & Trina to survive as a couple and I know you have ups and downs in a relationship. This too shall pass but their love for each other will have to step in to protect them from breaking up. Love can conquer anything, and their love is magical.
GH writers please let go of this. Have Nik come back on some anti-hero villain arc where he terrorizes Esme and starts reclaiming his life (specifically with Spencer, Wyndemere, and Laura exclusively - not Ace). Nik’s presence should force Spencer to confront his severe daddy issues and abandonment issues and restore Esme’s memory. While Esme’s memory is restored she is pretending to still have amnesia but turning back into the villain the story needs. Once people catch on about Esme (and they WILL), Nik reveals that was his plan all along as he wants/wanted to help Spencer get justice by revealing the truth of Esme’s character. In his terrorization, he was secretly gathering information and did a DNA test. This heals a part of Spencer’s broken heart in regards to this father which is necessary because Nik also reveals that Ace is NOT a Cassadine. In Nik’s time away he realized that Ace was not his son, which explains why Nik was in no rush to return to Port Charles and why he terrorized Esme upon his return. Make Nik like his the man who raised him, Stefan, a Cassadine who ruins their own good intentions but LOVES his family. End this with NAC being able to take his break because Nik takes Spencer on a much needed trip around Europe learning about the Cassadine legacy - the way Nik did growing up, training in martial arts, riding horses, lording over castles etc. (while sending Trina letters to update her about what he’s learning and how he’s bonding with not only his father, but his heritage)
This is better than anything GH has planned for sure.
Well! Well! Well! I like your storyline a lot. I can even picture it as you wrote it. That would be a great way to tie this all up and far better than me thinking that Esme will run off with baby Ace and Spencer will go after her as an explanation for why he is no longer in Port Charles. I like yours FAR better!!!😅 Now if only the writers would incorporate this into their story I wouldn't mind so much, especially if Trina is still faithfully waiting for him when he returns.
Does anybody else wish the writers are still on strike? I really think they really hate the idea of Spencer and Trina. Cause they keep making shit like this to make them break up
This storyline isn’t from the staff writers- it’s from the temporary writers… So no, I’m glad the strike is over 😂
0k I see the turn around rhat the writers are doing. Especially is back. She is upset that Spencer went on vacation with Trina, so she is using baby Ace ea a pawn to won Spencer and he is falling in the trap. Spencer is upset at what Trina told him and now he is hearing it again from Kevin. He is being manipulated and he doesn't even know it. The writers are getting viewers ro dislike Spencer to pull Spencer and Trina apart.
Keep it up Spencer your gonna push Trina away now I really see why Trina parents and family are over protective you need therapy
Watching these scenes back, OMG they had Spencer acting like a crazy person. Phew, they will have destroyed that character if fans didn't step up and say enough.
Looking back at old episodes, I came up with another reason why Spencer is so determined to be close to Ace. Yes he doesn’t wants him to have a father figure and doesn’t want him to feel abandoned like he did, but I think another major part is that he feels responsible for Nic not coming home. He threatened him with the information he got from Ava. The cops have information about him holding Esme, but Nic confessed to throwing her off the parapet. Now that I think about it, did he say when? Does Spencer think he did it when she escaped from Wyndemere or does he know that was back when she disappeared after the trial? Either way, besides the deep seated feelings of abandonment, there are feelings of guilt too b
All of this is really about nikolas again and him acting out because he hurt about his father once again
It's time for Spencer to start scheduling some counseling sessions with Kevin or he's going to lose Trina. His behavior with Ace is mentally unhealthy
So tired of this storyline. Hope Nikolas comes back soon.
You and me both! Agreed 💯 percent!
That look from Kevin, when Spencer was standing at the elevator was pricless...he was like WTF!....what is happening with Spencer, holy shit is about to hit the fan, something is psychologically wrong with that boy.😂😂😂😂.....For me, seeing how Spencer acted in this scene, i think this obcession with his brother is more serious than we think.
I didn't agree with Spencer's behavior with Kevin not only is Kevin his grandfather by proxy of being married to his grandmother AND he is Esme and baby Ace's actual blood uncle since she IS the daughter of his twin, Ryan he is also a certified therapist, and he should have shown him the respect he is due on all those fronts. However, in that instance Spencer reverted to the entitled brat he had always been as a kid.
I feel like Spencer is about to have a breakdown. He does have abandonment issues and they are manifesting more. Esme is using that to her advantage. I hurt for Trina due to this man basically defends someone that set out to ruin your life. I am GH is going to lose a lot of viewers if the mess up SPRINA.
I will be leaving and my daughter said she would. She is a Days follower but loves this couple. Please GH get this couple back on track before NAC leaves to do his movie.
Why has no one from the Cassadine family thought of doing a DNA knowing how conniving Esme is😢
Thank you for saying that and I wish Trina would run that by him.
Why is spencer feels like he constantly needs to know what's going on with Ace 24/7 As kevin states he's not the father i have a feeling this gonna get ungly if Esme asserts more her rights as his mother with Spencer pulling out that false evidence
Spencer.... The cracks are beginning to show. PLEASE seek Kevin out for some THERAPY, because watching you manifest your abandonment issues through Ace is VERY painful to watch; as well as watching your sanity slowly becoming detatched from reality. 👀😒😢
@desmawalker556, he is still pissed off from the heated conversation with Trina, she grilled his butt with the truth. He needs help and he needs it quickly. I do not know if Trina's love for him will be enough. I think after Laura talked to him about his dad, something snapped in his brain and Kevin noticed something and so did Trina. Trina did not baby him but if he keeps this up, he will run off with Ace or something.
Yeah this is about to very get interesting. This behavior may coincide with NAC going off canvas for awhile to shoot his Ryan Murphy movie. Re: your Spencer might run off with Ace theory.
I was scared at the way Kevin was looking at Spencer too. Kevin can get up someone's face sternly as well- he does have those Ryan Chamberlain genes Ha ha😆😅
Our boy is headed for a breakdown. He’s gonna spiral. I hope he can get it together before he hits rock bottom.
When Nicholas comes back I believe him and Esme will raise Ace together and Spencer will be left out in the cold.
I still say Ace isn’t even a Cassadine. If he isn’t… that would be a great way to end this story line and let Spencer have a more outward distain for Esme and for him to grieve the loss of being Ace’s brother. There’s no positive place for this to go for anyone.
@@CatchupGirl71the actors strike is still going on and the last meeting between SAG and execs went poorly. So speculation is the strike will drag on until next year. Although I want actors to be working I can’t lie and say I’m not happy that NAC will be on GH consistently a little longer. Hopefully long enough to wrap up this story line. So then maybe he can take a break, do his project and come back. Maybe send Spencer on a therapy retreat or something lol😊
@@CJ3581 I like the way you think... And I totally agree. Two people he's REALLY gonna need in the near-future will be Trina & Kevin. 😕
The more Spencer acts like this the more I feel like Trina will walk away. He already isn't listening to what she's saying and Kevin is saying the same thing , but Trina is going to notice and Spencer will lash out at her and say that he feels like he has to choose. Things will hit Spencer hard when Esme decides to move out of Laura and Kevin's ; either live upstairs at Kelly's or find an apartment for her and Ace either way its going to leave him lost and confused. If its true that the regular writers are back then that means that Nicholas Chavez will be leaving soon to do his movie. They can write that Esme decides to be more independent, moves out, and doesn't lean on Laura, Kevin, and Spencer. Then that gives Spencer an out and he can decide to leave town for awhile to figure out who he is and what does he want for his future. He could tell Trina that he loves her and he wants her in his life and his future , but he needs to go and figure things out , so when he returns he is the man she loves and see a future with. If not then they can write Trina deciding to walk away until he realizes that he's becoming obsessive over Ace and needs to step back and let Esme really raise Ace. Then he can focus on his relationship with Trina.
She should walk away. Im a big SPRINA fan but not at the expense of Trina looking like a desperate clown waiting around like she can’t find someone better for her. It’s getting ridiculous. I can’t STAND Portia but I’m starting to see her point when it comes to Spencer doing nothing but hurting Trina.
He makes bad decisions all of the time concerning their relationship. He puts her on the back burner to everything. He has completely forgotten about the fact that Esmè almost killed Trina then almost got her sent to prison- He doesn’t even CARE! He now has this WIERD obsession over this baby- and it’s going to turn into an obsession with Esmè- watch and see. And I’m going to stop watching…
I wouldn’t say he doesn’t care about what she did to Trina. He says all the time he’ll never forget but that she’s “duh duh duh different “ now. 🙄 lol Trina has said that she can handle being around Esme and that he shouldn’t worry about her. I think when Esme reverts back to her old self ( because it’s a matter of when, not if), protective Spencer would be back in action.
As she should!! She shouldn't be the side chick. And also this is a storyline repeat where
Esme=Carly
Ace=Michael
Spencer=Jason
Trina=Robin
Nikolas= AJ
I don't want to watch it!!
@@222tresorme neither! It’s a repeat of many stories like this and they all make the men look really stupid and fans hate it!
@hirleyoreggio9720, Trina told Spencer she was not making him abandon his baby brother but wanted him to think about their relationship. He tried to put that on her on Thursday and she broke it down to him. He was pissed and he latched out, but she was very blunt with him and stood her ground with him. Trina does have goals and she really loves Spencer, but she can't and will not put up with this Esme drama any longer. She can deal with Ace (he is a baby) but with this baby mama drama, she wants no part. I love them as a couple, but they have had too much friction for a young couple. Will Spencer be happy with Esme as his girlfriend again (heck no) but will he put up with it to be around Ace (most likely)? He will lose Trina and find out later that Ace is not his brother, and he lost his best friend and true love (Trina).
This story is something….At this point, I’m ready to see what happens when Nikolas comes back. Because until then I can’t really predict where this will go. But I truly dislike every direction this could possibly take. Not just for the characters and Sprina, but for NAC. This story has been a waste of his talents. Even if it suddenly flips and becomes decent, they still spent the better part of the last 8 months(minus Greenland/NYC) having him obsess over a baby. So thank god he has that project to look forward to once the actors strike is over bc GH has squanders his skill set.
We’ll see where this goes. I don’t trust Frank or the writers. My only hope is we see a turnaround quickly bc we’ve been dealing with amnesia esme for over ten months and that baby for 8.
Until then, I think I’m going to do a rewatch of some of Sprina’s better story arcs.
Me too starting now…I will watch whatever happens now on you tube.
I'm thinking Spencer might get so damn desperate to hold onto Ace that he'll be the one to kidnap him...
Is Nicholas coming back, Ace will be grown when he does?.
@@tkeisha24 I don’t blame you. It’s ridiculous how this show doesn’t care about its audience. That’s why ratings are so bad.
That is all I've been doing!! The actual is making me sick
"I'm perfectly capable of taking care of my own son" - Exhausting. Really? That's interesting because just a couple of weeks ago, she was complaining about Ace teething, washing/folding his laundry, changing his diaper, her being exhausted 24/7, etc., and her constantly running to Spencer to handle everything, NOW all of a sudden, she's "capable of taking care of her own son"? Girl, BYE! 😒🙄
She's only saying that to " punish him" for being with Trina. But yet he keeps saying the New And Improved Esme! - Improved at manipulation!
This is that "baggage" that I pointed out and Portia too a few weeks ago. It's getting more and more obvious.... Spencer needs help.
Spencer needs to take a step back. I hate to say this, but if his behavior doesn’t change he’s going to lose Trina.
Spencer my man, you just had a conversation with your lady Trina, and she told you. Ace is your brother, and you are acting very strange concerning him, snap out of this fog that you are in. Thanks for this review.
Kevin looked concerned about him at he end.
@@tr738 Kevin's look at Spencer actually scared me. It was extremely intimidating. I think it's about to go down in Laura's house
@@CatchupGirl71 Did something snap in Spencer's brain as Laura was telling him about his dad?
@@tr738 Kevin & Trina both looked concerned, but Trina did very well with him.
@@CatchupGirl71 I didn’t see it as intimidating. He’s a psychiatrist. I think he was worried about Spencer’s reaction. He sees how desperate he is to be in Ace’s life. He also may be concerned for Esme. He commented that she had nothing other than Ace. Now she’s trying to be independent, he sees Spencer still trying to control her actions to keep his place in Ace’s life. You are right, it there might be a showdown at Laura’s. Some form of intervention.
I don’t need everyone telling me that I’m not the father. Trina & Kevin already have that covered, thank you.
Get ur shit together ur stressing us out 😂
Spencer has entered the chat ya'll....lol
Spencer has major daddy issues. I think his obsession with stepping up to play the father role to Ace is his subconscious way of trying to prove to himself that he's a better man and can be a better father to Ace than Nikolas. It's like he's trying to recreate the life he wanted as a child of having an active father and living vicariously through Ace by playing daddy. It's actually scary, and weird to see, and Spencer needs intense therapy. Everybody keeps telling him he's not the father but he's not budging and if he doesn't get it together it will be at the expense of his relationship with Trina. I think Trina will give him an ultimatum it's her or Ace and Spencer will choose Ace. They'll probably temporarily break up, Nikolas will come back to step up, and they'll all probably find out Ace ain't even a Cassadine to begin with 😂
The gag is, Nikolas was an active father when Spencer was a child. Spencer wants to conveniently forget that. Spencer didn’t go away to boarding school until he was older and Nikolas was presumed dead (after Valentin shot him- how everyone forgets). The clips literally exist on YT lol Nikolas was always there for Spencer, now he’s being re-written as an awful father. Allowing Spencer to think he was dead was wrong, however, that doesn’t erase everything that came before. Spencer just doesn’t want to let go of his anger.
@@Kadasberry11 yep, I remember. It's crazy how his anger blinds him.
I see where the writers are going with this. Esme Will be in the forefront. She never lost her memory. She has been manipulating everyone from the beginning. Starting with Laura allowing her to stay at her home with Ace. It was so she could be close to Spencer.I remember that episode, when she said, I wonder what’s keeping your brother (Spencer was at the elevator with Trina). This is classic manipulation (taught to her by her dad). Trina is getting set up by the writers. Trina is telling Spencer the truth but his is already in Esme’s clutches. Esme has pretended to be this newly reformed , nice , young lady and baby mama, and Spencer has sucked it up. And if you look at it very close, she used Ace almost every time (except when Dex beat Spencer up). It is clear that the writers are breaking up Spencer and Trina because Spencer is too obsessed with Ace, he is defending Esme, and getting angry with Kevin and Trina.
Your assessment of the situation is making me queasy, dizzy and nauseous...
I wanted to slap Spencer!! Boy, you're too much, and rude!! Because Spencer is rich, he thinks he doesn't have to listen to people with wisdom and gets to do whatever he wants. That's a turn-off for me. He needs therapy, a job, a male friend, and other interests in his life.
@222tresor, Trina already told him, and he got up in her face and she did not back down. He is still pissed from their conversation earlier. If she ever has a kid by him, he will watch her like a hawk.
@@marshagreen9759 And you know what's interesting? Spencer is using Esme. Manipulating her by playing nice and playing house so he can have full access to Ace. He doesn't even see that he's participating in that behavior either.
Agree 💯
Yeah- Where is CAMERON? I thought he was coming back!
@@tameracoates398My thoughts too. Cameron is the voice of reason and sanity.
Spencer is to attach to that kid it just doesn’t make no damn sense
I do support Spencer, except in this instance . Ace has a father and a mother . Spencer disregard that fact , I think he going to be very disappointed when this whole mess isover. You cannot take over someone else’s life because yours didn’t work out the way you wanted . you would have wanted . He simply doesn’t look at the situation the way it is. Its unhealthy for Spencer and every one involved in this mess. I appreciate WHY he wants to do this but he is OVER board. Spencer wants to pretend that his father matter, doesn’t . . . care . How world would he know. He won’t give the man a chance ! I just feel like when his father gets in involved , its Spencer who will be left out . If Esme becomes more independent she WILL put rules and regulations about HER son, weather Spencer likes it or not. and again he will be left out. . but it will be Spencer's fault no one else will be to blame. I will add just one more thing . I hate baby storylines in soaps! They are a waste of time.
Ace doesn’t have a father that’s physically there at this point though. Nikolas hasn’t even met Ace yet.
I think Kevin is concerned because he sees that Esme doesnt have a life of her own, which makes her fixate on Spencer. He wants Spencer to step back, but he keeps acting like he is the father, which is fueling Esme's fantasy of them being a real nuclear family. She will see Trina as a threat to her "family" and try to get rid of her.
Omg 1. Spencer has no life 2. I actually agree with Es(motional) distress it’s her child and whatever she says goes doesn’t matter if they had a parenting class and agreed on some things. If she has to uno reverse all the time hey I’m for it because nothing is getting through to him.
3. The harsh reality Kevin gave him should’ve been harsher. Trina literally gave him the same lecture and truth minutes ago and he’s defensive (because he knows it’s true and he can’t control it). This episode just further proved that Spencer has no life. Being a chauffeur, knowing his appointments and wanting to go to them and he literal said he doesn’t care if he’s a brother OR a FATHER FIGURE what! He needs a friend and therapy.
4. Esme never changed the slick comment she made about Spencer seeing his GF just proves she playing a game. One moment it’s “I don’t need no one’s help I can be a single mother by myself” and the nexts is “ I need help, where’s Spencer” every time she switches up it’s because he’s with Trina.
5. I can’t wait for Nicholas to come back and when he does I think that he’ll maneuver his way out of jail hopefully it’s evidence against Esme and a show down with Spencer.
say that sis👏👏👏👏👏
What’s next Spencer? Legal adoption? Ace was looking 👀 at Spencer like, what kind of caffeine you on today, Dude? That’s right, he went for coffee earlier…
Ace was looking at Spencer strangely. Spencer was on a high because Trina heated his butt up on Thursday and was ready to slap the heck out of him with that clap of hands. She told him to Snap Out of It (Spencer was so startled at what she said).
beyond fed up with this " creepy fake ass big brother/ baby daddy storyline😒😒
Isn't Kevin a therapist or a psychiatrist? I forgot. But being fresh off the hunt for Nicholas with Laura, he probably can see what Spencer's obsession with Ace is really about. His trauma around loss and abandonment has been triggered. Spencer thinks he's just determined but it's giving "I have to be in control." His conversation with Trina has not sunk in yet. If Ace is one of the few sources of happiness and purpose for Spencer right now then the thought of losing him may have him shook. They gotta find him a job...quick.
Psychiatrist take care of the medication. Kevin is a Psychologist, which does therapy
He was pissed at his girl, and she got the best of him. He did take it out on Esme & Kevin but with Trina, a different story. When he was raising his arms to touch her, she clapped her hands, and Spencer backed away. Sister girl was about to slap him into daylight. Trina is just darn fed up with Esme & Spencer. He should at least try to understand Trina's feelings after they declared their love and made love for the very first time.
LMMN, first thank you. Now, did I get this straight? Spencer truly implied that he was fed up with Trina also, she being one of the few people who keep telling him that he is not Ace's brother for his own sake. What happened to 'the woman I LOVE' ? 'the LOVE of my life' ? How can he be so happy going to Kelly's to celebrate? The woman slept with his father, HIS FATHER!! (no matter Ace being his son or brother) !! And the day before, he said to Trina that he knew that he's Ace's brother not his dad and now he does not mind being either option for him? Well, well, well. Spencer character sure won the Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding nonsensical Performance ever. I'm out. Be back when and if GH starts writing more consistent and realistic scripts. This sucks.
I think Spencer told Kevin he was fed up with people telling him he was not Ace's father. He was mad at Trina, but sister girl broke it down to him, he dared to go off on her, she was ready for him, and he saw the look on her face. He took it out on Esme and Kevin. Esme had to say something smart about Trina, my man Spencer, you are being played by the pro (Esme) and you will lose your love and best friend (Trina).
*Kelly's
@@marshagreen9759 I get your point, but I'm so mad at Spencer right now treating Trina so disrespectfully and talking like that...
@@lisemeunier9696 I am so proud of Trina, she got everything off of her chest. Spencer forgot that he told Trina to talk to him when she went over for lunch and Esme thought it was for them. So, when Trina voices her opinion, Spencer looks so dam shocked and asks her where this is coming from. Maybe Spencer thought that Trina would not say anything, but she did.
@@marshagreen9759 I forgot that too!! I remember him telling her, in the gallery, before she agreed to go to NYC with him that Esme was not his concern... This script is sooo inconsistent. As a fully committed Sprina fan, I feel let down and betrayed by the deceitful writers.
I'm still surprised and nobody once thought about taking DNA
a test for that baby.
Spencer Needs To LEAVE Esme & Ace ALONE, He Needs To Focus On His Relationship with Trina. Spencer & Nikolas Are Not Ace's Father, They Need To Realize That By Now. I Hope That The Truth Comes Out About Ace's Biological Father. 💯🙌
When Esme agrees with common sense, you know you're in the Twilight zone. The entire Cassadine family is an endless Paso Double flexing, strutting and taking whatever it is they want with varying degrees of concern for others. Spencer has been adamant about keeping his sibling away from his father since January. This is the extension of the legal battle that never commenced. Peter Pan here has a stubborn streak that screams, "No! I won't give up my baby brother!" Spencer needs to worry about Trina and his future. He can't stay in his Neverland fantasy of having a perfect family. This is wish fulfillment at its finest. Phantom sings, "I Won't Grow Up" and "Some things never change" 👻🎻. ua-cam.com/video/nVW9QOIeqQg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Looks like Spencer is about to blow ... Eventually he will need counseling from all the bowl of crazy he has been through in his life ... No mother a semi crazed irresponsible father who cheated with his own sons would be girlfriend who's been groomed by two very insane ruthless serial killers took advantage of Spencer from the start ... Just adding on to hurt and anxiety fear he's projecting on to what he thinks might happen to ace ..... Actually I hope esmee gets a chance to move out far away as she been said in the past ... She knows how insane being around the cascidine men are ... Wait til Nicolas comes back with all that vengeance in his mind .... 😢😢😢...
I co-sign💯percent with everything you said!
And the original writers are back sigh 😔 Well, thanks for what we got with the temp writers. Now that the old crew is back, this is when i get off this sad ride 😢 Kevin is her Uncle, soooooo that alone tine with her ( in this scene) I am sure he "analyzed" her but then again she is his NIECE......! So what he tells Spencer is from what he saw IN HIS NIECE a brewing
Oh no 😢
That’s right!!!! So technically Ace is his great nephew. He has more rights than Spencer.
@@tavia221 Wow!! You are correct.
@@marshagreen9759 I see a family battle for Ace coming up. When Nikolas gets back in town it's gonna be ON! And wait, until they find out Ace ain't even a Cassadine! Cause I don't think he is.
Their stories don't aire until late November/ early September, this is still fi-core stories.
Spencer is giving me stress 😢 eish
Toxic. Toxic. Toxic. Spencer is about to combust. I'm glad the viewers aren't the only ones recognizing that Spencer has an unhealthy attachment to this scenario. Like Trina said, get yourself some business.
Even Ace is looking at Spencer like Spencer went crazy!
Previous spoilers said on week of October 16th, 'Spencer and Esme argue'. Actually, Spencer and Trina did. Spencer and Esme get along just fine...
They are making Spencer sound unhinged! Why aren't they making Esme sound unhinged like she actually is?
You tell him who’s the boss she is the boss of her sons lever that lady along
Kevin is just trying to place some reality with Spencer, just like Trina tries. Spencer isn't seeing the reality of his situation. The group gave Esme the green light and her power. She can do what she wants with Ace. Spencer, son, you have no power. Get over yourself because Kevin is right. Your lives will begin to diverge. And soon!🤔😔
Ridiculous. And Esme has to bring Trina in this. She did this on purpose and Spencer to come running like a puppy.
I can't with this mess of a storyline 😂😂
Esme is a pro and she learned from her crazy parents.
The way Ace looks at Spencer, even he doesn’t like him 😂😂😩😩
I agree with all the comments, Spencer is becoming obsessed with Ace and sadly this might end up being Sprina’s downfall. I don’t see Trina having patience for this foolery 🤦🏾♀️
Right! Like Spencer is weirding him out 🥴
Ace in his head like, "why you so obsessed with meee, bro I wanna knowww" 🎶🎵😂
@@chitlinjuice😂
The writers are doing their job. Break up Sprina and have us fans do it. NO!!! I’m hanging in there with Sprina.
@@chitlinjuice Baby Ace is a talented young baby, he looked funny also, tried not to laugh.
is it ust me or why do i feel like kevin is not kevin but his brother ryan
I dnt think its an obsession but i think he keeps losing ppl and Ace is the only biological immediate family member he has left .having ur grandmother and uncle isnt the same as mother father sister brother and even worse he considered Cam his brother and Cam is no longer around thats why he said Ace and Trina are the only ones that make him happy . I think both their innocence makes him feel safe cause he knows they both will never use him or deceive him.Ace cause hes a baby and Trina cause of her character shes proven it through actions time and time again.
We forgot about his aunt Lulu; she spent some time with him when he was younger.
I totally agree with you, however being a Cassadine, it is a slippery slope from love and concern to obsession. I just hope that Spencer doesn't ending up exhibiting all of the bad Cassadine traits that Nikolas ended up doing and Nikolas had been the very best of the male Cassadines.
@le2800 dunno .. Nicholas been doin questionable things since even before he slept with his brothers wife .I see what ur saying and l hope so also .
Also he lost his aunt Lulu and Britt.
Word indeed. I'm over Esme and this jealousy over Trina and Spencer. We like Trina and Spencer and I want Ace to not be a cassadine just so we can move on and they focus on putting Esme with someone other than Spencer. She'd be less annoying of a character if she wants someone else. The writers need to do something about Esme. Ryan's face says it all. As long as he plays daddy to Ace, Esme will be a problem for him and Trina. Either get rid of Esme, or prove this kid isn't a cassadine so she's out the way without being killed off the show.
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@@mudeasno1baby73 right, Kevin lol. Just watched the Ryan storyline again
Why Spencer just listen to his girlfriend Trina and Kevin that Ace is not his responsibility. Man, I hope he takes his own son with Trina in the future.
If not then his own will have all the smokes for him
Well we had a couple of good weeks of Trina and Spencer, now in one day I just want to say “run Trina run”.
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They NEED to STOP THIS STORYLINE NOW with Spencer over obsessing over Ace. THE WRITERS going this route is putting an end to the SPRINA relationship so I’ll just continue to browse. I don’t want to start back watching again just to be subjected to THIS FOOLERY.
Where is that baby's hat? It is cold!
I see a lot of mothers here in Oklahoma that do not have a hat on their babies either. Maybe this is a new thing.
Spencer is fine,he is smarter than esme,he don’t like what trina tells him most of the time but he listens
If there's a choice between being with Ace and being with Trina, who do you think he would choose? I remember a conversation he had with Trina at Kelly's diner about being a single and taking care of Spencer and everything Trina told him about taking care of a child with having no experience with children and learning at the expense of the child and he was like he could do that. So why isn't he letting Esme do it? If she's such a good mom, live her alone. Of course she could have some support from Laura but she is a grown woman let her learn on her own too.
Spencer what is wrong
Well SprinaNation Family apparently -GH don't care about the thousands of #Sprina fans how we feel about the rotten things being done to this beautiful coupling !
Spencer need a male friend were is Cameron ? Am so piss off by the way there writing Spencer character knowing dame well that nic will soon be leaving for goodness sake give the couple a break!
I’m sad for Spencer. 😔 Sad that he’s so damaged and blinded that this is all he can see for himself.
He’s spiraling, which could be a good thing if it means movement in this damn story. Something needs to happen. We probably won’t like whatever it is though. 😏
Spencer just came back from that magical weekend with Trina and got hit with confirmation that his father has abandoned him yet again, and not only him, but Ace. Just like Spencer has been saying he would. So that’s sending him into hyper protective mode anyway. Then he goes to see Trina the next day ( like he said he would 👍🏻), and she hits him with some truth bombs that he’s not ready to hear yet. I hope it’s percolating there in his stubborn head, but right now he’s all impulse and reaction. This is Spencer’s usual mode anyway. Then he gets hit with it yet again from Kevin, who has had a hand in raising him too as well, right? Laura & Kevin raised him those years Nik was gone. He knows Kevin to be a reasonable and logical man, so he knows what he is saying is true but again, not ready to face it.
We need to be calling and writing the show and executives and tell them we want this dumb obsession to end. I can’t see this story going anywhere good unless they just turn around his thinking about Ace.
Yep, he needs to break apart so he can assess his priorities in life because right now he's shaping up to be the worst of the greeks.
I just hope they are not trying to turn him into one of those dark Cassadines who no one can tame or change except for the woman they love until she can't even do it anymore which is why most Cassadine men always end up alone.
Spencer is not the father! He didnt want to be intimate with her he told Cameron that she even ask Spencer to do the do but he did not !!
Not watchin this again once is enough thankgod for special breaking news so was able to miss most of this wasted 5 mins which could being given to vanna or Laura and her grand daughter even drew and liz i would prefer.
Can someone tell me has Esme ask any questions about Nicholas? This is Ace father has she ask Laura about him ?
I can’t stand Spencer. I know a lot of people give him slack because of his looks but looks do fade and they way he treats Trina is BS. I truly hope people stop defending him when he does the slightest little jester to Trina then all seems forgiven until the next BS thing he does. Frankly I’m just tired of him and Esme and Laura and Alexis and Kristina they all just should live happily every after on Greenland.
I adore Sprina but by no means am I giving Spencer a pass he has his many many faults ,deep down as much as I love them together to me Trina deserves so much better a man whose truly devoted to her, not this "older brother/baby daddy nonsense", Gh needs to get that man a job,at least do something with his life instead of focusing on his weird ass obsession
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I'm really liking the actress portraying Esme
Spencer got a HUGE daddy issue! And it’s so annoying to see. And he WILL lose Trina… it’s sad to see how blinded he is. Like is it really all about ace or you love playing house with his mother as well. Which is making think about where the writers are taking this story … please let it not be that Spencer is the father.
If I said it once I have said it a thousand times, the on screen chemistry between Nick and Avery is undeniable!
Hey Sprina fans, we can see the writing on the wall SMH Spencer‘s obsession with his little brother is going to destroy his relationship with Trina. But I guess we have to remember. He is a Cassadine, the arrogant SOB’s 😅😅
Lol. I know right! They are something else once crossed and now that Spencer is more secure in Trina's love, he may start letting her see more of his bad Cassadine genes. Poor Trina may want to run for the hills!!!
@@le2800 If Trina run for the hills, he would be chasing her down.
#LMMN I'm gonna have agre on Spencer on this one spencer is gonna step to take care of his Baby 👶🏻 brother
It’s interesting that everyone thinks Spencer’s abandonment is from Nikolas (who disappeared when he was a teen), but no one ever considers the void he has from never having a mother 🤔
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These writers and FV for (GH) Got Spencer acting like he can't be with out his brother. Ace. Okay I guess these writers and FV were trying to find some way. For SPRINA to be Happy for a weekend. I guess we can say that. So all the SPRINA Fans. Can finally be Happy for the Beautiful couple. We will let Spencer take. Trina on a romantic trip to NYC. Which was wonderful. They both tell each other. I ❤ you. Had Dinner went to see a show made ❤ for the 1st time. Had breakfast before they left. To come back to (PC). Get back Spencer takes Trina back over to her mom Poria and Curtis home. Spencer goes back to his (GM) Laura's house. Where her and Kevin have returned back from. Looking for Nikolas. When Spencer says. Ive missed you grandmother. Than Esme walks in says Oh you back. The look on Esme and Laura face was priceless. Especially when he was telling them about his trip to NYC with Trina. They didn't want to here about his romantic trip to NYC with Trina. But Kevin didnt mind hearing about it. He even told Spencer that it was good for him and Trina to get away. And have some alone time together. Kevin was Happy for them. Not so much Esme and Laura. This is when everything hit the FAN. When Laura told Spencer. That his father might still be alive. Now everything for SPRINA went from being Awesome to Oh Hell Naw. My father is alive. I can't concentrate. On Trina right now. Think about our plans and future together. Since I know my father is out there somewhere alive. I ❤ you. But also love Ace too. These writers for GH. Sure know how to mess up a Good Thing. For SPRINA. Now Im guessing there going to make. Spencer can not be out his brother Ace. He wants to know all about his doctor's appointment (s). Ok Spencer when is this going to sink into your head. You are not Ace father. You are his brother. All these things that. Trina and Kevin was saying to him about Ace. It just seems like it was going in one ear and out the other. He was listening to what they both were saying to him about. Ace. And than he wasn't listening. Spencer has a mind of his own. Right now. Its not a very good one. Spencer keeps telling Trina. Esme is a good mother. To Ace. If that's the case. Why can't you moved out of your GM house. Get your own place. Spencer. If you claim you trust Esme and she a good mother to your brother. I can not wait for Nikolas to show back up. When he do. All Hell is gonna break loose. Especially when Nikolas try to get custody of his son Ace. That is going to break Spencer's ❤. That is why Trina and Kevin is trying to get Spencer to see. His dad Nikolas can pop up any minute. In (PC) Spencer I know you love your brother. But his dad your dad is coming back. I cant wait. Maybe this time he can concentrate on Trina. The woman who supposed to be the ❤ of his Life. Unless (GH) have something else going on for SPRINA. The only thing. Ive have left to say is. If Esme wasn't pregnant or had a baby by Spencer's dad Nikolas or who ever she had the baby by. Spencer would not be acting like this towards Ace. If Esme didnt get pregnant and have a baby. He would be all up in Trina's face. Syndey the old Trina/ Taby the new Trina. He wouldn't even be thinking about Ace. Like he doing now. His first priority would be Trina. I remember one episode. When Joss had asked Spencer. Why wasn't he with Trina. He said because of Portia. Trina mom. Than I remember him saying. Trina will always be my number 1 priority. Spencer are you going back on your word. Because its seems to me. That Ace is your number one priority right now. I know you ❤ Trina. But you need to wake up Spencer. Your living in a fantasy world. I just hope Trina will be there for Spencer when all this stuff about who is the father of Ace and DNA Test. Because he is really going to need her to lean on. Good Morning SPRINA FAMILY. Happy Saturday to you All..
Spencer you really disappoint me you really disappoint me wake up and smell the coffee you're not the baby's father you're the baby's brother and nobody can come over here and say otherwise without proof If you don't have proof don't waste my time come on here talking about Spencer it could be the baby's father show me the proof if you don't have the proof that Spencer is a baby's father I don't want to hear I'm tired of people coming on here thinking they know what they talking about when they don't know what they're talking about I'm quite sure everyone has their own opinion I like most opinions are like diapers they have to be changed every day and thrown away out all the time straighten up and fly right now she's going to lose everything that you worked hard to get it was all gone remember that so wake up and smell the coffee😮😮😅
Well if everybody in town is telling Spencer the same thing (I'm sure Laura will be letting him know next) that means Spencer is going to be in for a rude and soapy goodness rude awakening very, very soon.
He’s not disapponting me ,that’s what he did before to trick esme,we or he may need his fathers help
@@2muchttvv830 Spencer did not win the trick on Esme back when he was trying to collect information to help Trina out. I do not think he will want his father's help.
Some are still wondering if Ace might actually be Spencer's.
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I really hope they bring Nikolas back and soon cuz this whole storyline with Spencer and Ace is getting ridiculous I know his intentions are good but what is gonna happen if or when Nikolas does come back;Then things really will get interesting but so far this whole storyline with Spencer and Ace is getting boring ;they need to get Spencer to move out and get his own place already and start acting like the kids brother and not his father