the benefit of normal ash is that its extremely chill and zero risk of dying compared to dehkia even if you go crazy for 50mins flawless in dehkia sometimes you lapse in focus and just not paying attention and get onebanged by some back attack jumps. plus you have to focus the entire time too :( averaging close to 1 ever hour or even 1h30 is good for how chill it is in comparison
well, i did sessions of 1h (1 neck), 3h (2 neck), 1h (0 neck), 6h (2 neck), 1h (0 neck) here @ 12-12.5k tl/hr (can't even come close to your score but it is what it is) with 240-260% drop rate. so more like 1 per 2 hours~ at least for me..
Thanks for the input. I was mostly basing my debos/h on garmothcom global data, it suggests 0.8 necks/h with 12k tl on yellow and 300% drop rate. However I've seen many people go dry for multiple hours and average around 0.5/h so it's either garmoth being wrong here (not unlikely) or lots of people having very bad rng.
I did another 7hours total at the same tl 12-12.5k yellow/hr at 238-245% drop rate-ish, and got 2 debo necks in that time... so quite a big sample size by now at this clear speed and it's looking at least for me 2hrs+ for one neck@@PawelNovaBDO
Yeah. Just like that. Nowadays I think that 1bil - very bad. 2bil - OK for midgame and endgame. 2.5-3bil+ - must be a debo spot. The moment debos go below 60bil the game will be balanced again.
Not much changes though. Tuvala players will deal slightly more dmg. End game players will deal slightly less dmg. I more or less calculated everything already using garmothcom data.
@ovaBDO actually when i attack barnas, volkrases gets an animation and then after a moment they're coming to me. idk why they're taking that long to come to me. aren't they suppossed to come to me immediately?
@@mrhakk4538 that's their default animation. They physically cannot come faster than that. It's similar to dehkia hystria when it came out. Mobs would be stuck in an animation for 3s or more before moving. Meanwhile some spots like sycraia have 0s animation and mobs just instantly walk up.
To be fair, even in NA most people have been struggling to get an outfit each day lately. That said, it's still far better than EU and most other servers.
36k crons is enough for 3 tets with an average luck. Still not enough for a single pen debo though. Debos are currently expensive cause not many people have the gear and will to do debo spots. And getting at least one sellable tet debo can take 15h+ of grinding a spot and around 40bil in crons. On EU people are selling TRIs and I'm not even surprised.
I wish I could exceed 15k in dehkia. Sadly that's not happening, most I got was 14700/h. I wonder if I should add some sort of disclaimer in the thumbnail that it's not a dehkia video. I assumed I didn't need to since normal ash is still 3x as popular as dehkia but you're not the first person to assume that it's a dehkia video.
@@PawelNovaBDO When I saw your video on the Netherax discord, I swear I saw Dehkia in the name. I think my brain just auto concluded. It's just viewer error to assume it's Dehkia. :D
Crypt for sure. But if you don't want so much rng then jade, serendia elvia (orcs+fogans), stars end. As for endgame you can also consider dehkia thornwood and dehkia turos.
@@PawelNovaBDO i have the dps but only 375 dp so i got oneshote in crypt and orc i do 30-32k token but I'm having trouble getting the same token as you (36-37k)
You can try to get kabuas from the market and then do dehkia TW. Or stick to midgame spots like jade, serendia elvia, stars end and get your dp up. Once you're around 400dp you can do crypt very comfortably.
the benefit of normal ash is that its extremely chill and zero risk of dying compared to dehkia
even if you go crazy for 50mins flawless in dehkia sometimes you lapse in focus and just not paying attention and get onebanged by some back attack jumps. plus you have to focus the entire time too :(
averaging close to 1 ever hour or even 1h30 is good for how chill it is in comparison
well, i did sessions of 1h (1 neck), 3h (2 neck), 1h (0 neck), 6h (2 neck), 1h (0 neck) here @ 12-12.5k tl/hr (can't even come close to your score but it is what it is) with 240-260% drop rate.
so more like 1 per 2 hours~ at least for me..
Thanks for the input.
I was mostly basing my debos/h on garmothcom global data, it suggests 0.8 necks/h with 12k tl on yellow and 300% drop rate. However I've seen many people go dry for multiple hours and average around 0.5/h so it's either garmoth being wrong here (not unlikely) or lots of people having very bad rng.
I did another 7hours total at the same tl 12-12.5k yellow/hr at 238-245% drop rate-ish, and got 2 debo necks in that time... so quite a big sample size by now at this clear speed and it's looking at least for me 2hrs+ for one neck@@PawelNovaBDO
could you upload a dehkia ash video? I want to see how the clear is there and how "safe" nova is grinding there
That's the plan I have. I'll try to go there this week.
Ok thanks, looking forward to it!@@PawelNovaBDO
1b/h is bad "pawel 2023" now 2b/h is bad. I made 2/3b "pawel 2024"
Yeah. Just like that.
Nowadays I think that 1bil - very bad. 2bil - OK for midgame and endgame. 2.5-3bil+ - must be a debo spot.
The moment debos go below 60bil the game will be balanced again.
They are buffing ap soft cap in stars end and kratuga... gonna be interesting
Not much changes though. Tuvala players will deal slightly more dmg. End game players will deal slightly less dmg. I more or less calculated everything already using garmothcom data.
So you dont hit the seeds to lure the mobs, could you explain why? Nice video!
Ohh I just checked the video description haha. Gonna try it with my Awk DK =)
why can't i pull most of the volkrases after hitting the barnas?
Aggro limit. You can only pull 10 mobs. Game prioritises closer mobs and if you have too many gairas around then volkras won't come.
@ovaBDO actually when i attack barnas, volkrases gets an animation and then after a moment they're coming to me. idk why they're taking that long to come to me. aren't they suppossed to come to me immediately?
@@mrhakk4538 that's their default animation. They physically cannot come faster than that. It's similar to dehkia hystria when it came out. Mobs would be stuck in an animation for 3s or more before moving. Meanwhile some spots like sycraia have 0s animation and mobs just instantly walk up.
NA is so carried compared to us, they just get free crons from cm and still have close to max price tet debos
To be fair, even in NA most people have been struggling to get an outfit each day lately. That said, it's still far better than EU and most other servers.
is there any reason that you don't use brutal perforation/brutal death elixirs?
They're pvp elixirs. Not pve. Mobs have too much hp for them to make a difference.
ah, thought they'd at least have some use in min-maxing
я так и не понял почему деба такая дорогая если для заточки на 4 надо 36к крон, а это 118 лярдов
36k crons is enough for 3 tets with an average luck. Still not enough for a single pen debo though.
Debos are currently expensive cause not many people have the gear and will to do debo spots. And getting at least one sellable tet debo can take 15h+ of grinding a spot and around 40bil in crons. On EU people are selling TRIs and I'm not even surprised.
So 15k can be exceeded. Remarkable Pawel. :) Ah it's normal. not Dehkia. Still very nice.
I wish I could exceed 15k in dehkia. Sadly that's not happening, most I got was 14700/h.
I wonder if I should add some sort of disclaimer in the thumbnail that it's not a dehkia video.
I assumed I didn't need to since normal ash is still 3x as popular as dehkia but you're not the first person to assume that it's a dehkia video.
@@PawelNovaBDO When I saw your video on the Netherax discord, I swear I saw Dehkia in the name. I think my brain just auto concluded.
It's just viewer error to assume it's Dehkia. :D
Can you try Yzrahid? I tried several times but couldn't do it
Next week probably. Not now. I'm not expecting much. Should be 37-40k.
Pawel man wtf 2.3B really ? ur a fucking monster
Custom prices. If debos were to be sold on the market it would be less than that. The goal is to sell enhanced debos.
@@PawelNovaBDO Oh okey yes i see pawel, for you whats is the best zone for grind with nova awak 301 ap ?
Crypt for sure. But if you don't want so much rng then jade, serendia elvia (orcs+fogans), stars end. As for endgame you can also consider dehkia thornwood and dehkia turos.
@@PawelNovaBDO i have the dps but only 375 dp so i got oneshote in crypt and orc i do 30-32k token but I'm having trouble getting the same token as you (36-37k)
You can try to get kabuas from the market and then do dehkia TW. Or stick to midgame spots like jade, serendia elvia, stars end and get your dp up. Once you're around 400dp you can do crypt very comfortably.