Grace Community Church In Sun Valley Defies Court Order, Holds Indoor Services
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- A Sun Valley church held indoor services Sunday despite the most recent court ruling in an ongoing battle over COVID-19 restrictions. Joy Benedict reports.
It is far better to obey God than man! SO glad they are still meeting & worshipping the ONE TRUE GOD!
me to its a good distraction from the truth
I stand with Grace Community Church in the UK!
The Cross of Christ is foolishness to those who are perishing
Here si man Aged 81 and have guts to stand firm on word of God. We need to learn much more from this Man , he not just the teacher and Preacher but also a doer of his Words.
I remember another government that prohibited the free exercise of religion... how did that work out for the Egyptians? Don’t harden your heart let the people go to church.
Samuel Floyd Pharaoh was in direct opposition to Jehovah God and refused to let the Israelites flee Egypt to worship their God. In our day it’s different because meeting in person is not the ONLY way to worship together. My congregation and many others have been gathering virtually on zoom and it has been a blessing. God places a very high value on life- and this is the perfect time to social distance (potentially saving lives while still obeying Cesars law)
@@antiarugula Yeah, and so were they at Grace. MacArthur preached into a camera for months and the congregation watched online from home. They resumed meeting at their Worship Center of their own accord when they saw that the "oh crap! we're all gonna die" narrative pushed by the media and Democrat bureaucrats didn't match reality. MacArthur didn't tell anyone to come back to their Worship Center, they all did it on their own. Gavin Newsom shut down wineries in almost 20 other counties, but kept his own tasting room open in Oakville. Newsom's kids' private school was kept open while every public school in the state remains locked down as I type this. Aunt Nancy was caught *unmasked* on surveillance footage defying her sweet little nephew's lockdown order in a San Francisco salon getting her hair done, then accused the salon owner of "setting her up." So please save your sanctimony for something that actually warrants it. This isn't about a virus, it's about using COVID as an excuse to control the sheep.
Oh for pity’s sake
Stand strong pastor John MacArthur ! We stand with you!!
Way to go Pastor John. We serve The Living God not a silly little governor.
Funny how that short clip of the city official speaking looked no different than a pastor speaking in a church. I’m sure there was a “gathering” of people at that city briefing listening to the city official speak just as there was a gathering of people at the church listening to the pastor speak. So if the city is going to try to fine the church, then they need to also fine themselves as well for having their own similar type gathering!
Blessed are those who have seen and believe. Even greater is the blessing for those who have not seen yet believes!
Evolution works. Please, don’t wear a mask.
Nobody gripes about the protesters. Nobody. And if this bothers you (encourages me) go do something productive. It’s our right to go to Church. Our right.
Linda Taylor I’m ready whenever Jesus wants to return.
What a horrible witness. Christian chaplain at a local hospital. Help people die in overrun ERs and hospitals. And they’re getting younger. Can’t take care of broken legs or MIs because John needs to gather in super spreaders. Not even going to appeal to the Sacred Text. This is beyond galactic self absorption. Became aware of this video by a nurse considering Christ. Sitting on the floor in tears because the community doesn’t understand the importance of the implications of their choices. She’s turned off, thanks very much. It’s a temporary emergency shut down, not an attack on “American” freedoms.
@@jessebourneau6426 You hear about the Department of Defense now rolling out vaccine cards and tracking people? If you honestly believe this is just about COVID-19 and you are okay with all this garbage I honestly have no time for you and you have no place in society. Your response was downright inappropriate and uninformed.
@@JeffMaddock Thank you for that critically thoughtful reply. You sound terrified.
@@jessebourneau6426 You are welcome and no I’m not terrified but honestly, go get a life! Trolling three month old comments?! You must be miserable!
Praise the Lord
We ought to follow Christ Jesus, the King of kings and Lord of lords, not men. We stand with you Pastor John McArthur. 💯
I'm for the church... Walmart can stay open with three hundred people inside of their building... Then so can the churches... Jesus hear my pray amen...
Walmart is open for indespensable food that people need. And they require you to wear a mask.
You can worship at home with your family. Why do you have the need for prople to see you worshipping at a church?
@@victoralvarado36 ain't nobody going to Walmart just to go grocery shopping. I go frequently and it's not for food lol but read your Bible you'll see where fellowship with other Christians was necessary. Iron sharpens Iron. We don't need them to see us worshiping all throughout scripture you'll see the church meeting on houses breaking bread and worshipping were not doing it to be seen, and worshipping isn't the main concern of the service, it's the word of God that people want to hear.
@@adrftgvvbh I thought the bible was the word of god, so why can't you just read at home and nourish yourself with it? Youre just looking for excuses and ways to do whatever you want without worrying about putting others in danger. Jesus himself would pray alone and worship alone. If jesus was alive today and preaching do you think he would make a congregation when he knew the dangers of it? Use your own slogan for the situation right now, WWJD? Practice a little empathy, that'll get you closer to being a better person.
@@victoralvarado36 I don't think you read the Bible do you!? Lol because we're not called to sit at home and the read of God alone and that's it. We're called to not give up meeting together (Hebrews 10:25), we're called to have pastors and elders just like any other organization or company, we need someone that God has planted to keep order and structure in the church. Every member is important some serve some are deacons, like scripture says, every limb (Christian) is important, church can't function without everybody in their role.....If you don't read the Bible you wouldn't understand......... Jesus literally told Paul you will suffer for my sake, they were constantly trying to kill them and he didn't give up the mission, the cross, Jesus didn't say "well guys were being persecuted, we should probably stop just to be safe"...... Plus sin is the thing you should really be afraid of not covid, I get your point, you can infect others, but at the same time if it happens it happens, God's in control, covid is still part of God's decree, Colossians 1:15:16, read the story of Job you'll get angry seeing how God gave him up to Satan. But then you'll realize like Job that God is still good, that he is in control over everything so that puts you at ease knowing covid death cancer you name it, God created/allowed it to happen for a reason and it's all under his control..... Read Job You'll start thinking God isn't just love, hes wrath too.
@@adrftgvvbh theres no point in arguing with a person like you. You'll always think youre right when you're just a zealot. An eye for an eye is the law im referring to, dont act like you dont know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I won't add rhetoric to your cynical, self centered, incredulous, selfish, condescending brain washed self. Talk to me when you've studied theology for more than half your life, then we'll get somewhere. Good luck to you. And I'm sorry for all the people you've exposed and more than likely killed for taking this virus lightly.
Obey God not corrupt politicians
Happy to see the Grace community church and also the congregation carrying the Holy Bible in their hands and walking briskly towards the church.Truly it is a blessed church. Praise the Lord. Amen.
Lord bless this congregation and
Protect there church!
Having followed this story this article was pretty fair for the short amount of time they had. This included John’s statement that he wasn’t doing this to be rebellious.
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ!! Hallelujah to the Lamb of God!!!!
@John Whirling You're describing yourself. Enjoy your microchip.
The devil is mad because people still have faith
@@stef33zy93 The devil is mad (in the psychiatric sense) because he imagines he can be higher than God. That's what pride and sin does.
John Whirling I’m not sure what that means, but what I do know is that like me, you have broken God’s Law and commandments. We are both sinners and stand justly condemned for our crimes against God. How can God be both Just and Merciful? The Lord God Almighty sent His Only Son to die a brutal, torturous death on the cross to pay for our sin. He paid the fine for your crimes, my crimes, past present and future, for all who would place their genuine faith and trust in Him. He died, was buried, and three days later He resurrected from the dead, proving Himself to be God and proving His Sacrifice to be Worthy. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, live a perfect, righteous life in oneness with the Father. When we surrender to Him, The Lord is able to gift us grace and grant us mercy for our sin. The only difference between you and I is that I have placed my life in the hands of Jesus Christ, making Him the Lord and Master of my life. He was condemned on my behalf. I would encourage you to research before you reject God. He loves you so much that He died for you. That’s the least you could do for the one who created you and gave His own Life for you, is it not?
God bless this church and the congregation. The lord will not be gotten rid of.
Sing Hallelujah, praise the Lord!
Priase God for you Grace Community Church! There is so many brothers and sisters who are standing with you all in prayer right now.
God bless this church!!
One step close to meet God in person....
Rich Ratch I guess you’ll find out the truth when you stand before God in judgement
It’s a blessing to be able to fellowship with my brothers/sisters in the Lord and sing praises and hymns to our God who has been faithful to sustain us through this unique time. Scripture says, “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
(Matthew 10:28) . For those who are skeptical, you’re all more than welcome to come visit and hear God’s truth faithfully preached..(wear your mask, face shield, etc., whatever makes you feel safe), you are welcome to Grace Community, esp.those that are accusing and slandering Pastor John and the church for supposedly wanting to stay open for “donations” and all sorts of accusations. If we can feel horrible over a church who is keeping their doors open to obey God and serve people and nourish their spiritual needs, have you considered thinking the same thing about liquor stores, abortion clinics(who kill way more people/lives than COVID), and casinos who are open and who’s only purpose is to literally make money out of you? I hope you consider this invitation. If you’re far from Grace Community(Sun Valley), we have online streaming Sundays at 10:30am PST. Lord-willing see you there! And bring family & friends too. Blessings!
Irene C. God places a high value on life and meeting in person at this time would be foolish. Virtual is the best
Love Love God is able to protect and sustain those who are obedient to Him. He will destroy those who stand against Him. God knows the number of our days, he will fulfill all of them,and when they are over He will take us to Himself . What have we to fear ?
The church isn't the building. The church is the PEOPLE in the church. Anyone here accepts the risks. Get government OUT OF MY FAITH!!
If it bothers you, don't go.... but stop telling others that they cannot worship God after nearly 6 months of this nonsense.
“Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.” Titus 1:15
Larry Word are you stupid no one is stopping u and us from worshiping. God. All u have to do is wear a mask and stay 6 feet away. I want to go worship too but if someone is gonna come stand 1 inch away from me and cough....
@@Pie4life123 In the Lower Court that said Grace Church could meet...the Pastor agreed with the judge that they WOULD wear masks and distance.
Then the County pulled a last minute backdoor move with the appellate court to overturn it.
So what are they to do? There is clearly as bias against the Church here.
Where are all the other pastors out there? They should be leading. Our country has fallen because the church is asleep.
I was there.. it was amazing praise the Lord altogether...
The church is defying nothing. The court ruled in their favor. The Constitution protects them. And God commands them.
Crazy Steve an appeals court ruled against the church on Saturday night under the cover of darkness.
keep meeting. EPHESIANS:5.11- 14.
yesss good for u guys!
My wife and I use to go there for Sunday services and we took bible classes. It's so sad to see many white evangelicals abandoning their biblical principles for their political affiliations. The constant double standards and hypocrisy on moral issues is hurting the Christian cause. GOD is love, hate is the opposite of love. President Trump embrace and promotes hate. Racism is hate, but hate isn't a deal breaker for many white evangelicals. They claim pro-life, but support unnecessary wars that kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. They're for pro birth, but celebrate when programs that help the poor are cut, like food stamps. Not a lot to say about refugee babies being separated from their mothers and locked in cages. They use the bible to deny gay rights and same sex marriage, but say nothing of denying the rights of people who divorce and remarry, when the same bible says GOD hates divorce. Non-believers see the hypocrisy of these moral principles. White evangelicals in America never repented over white supremacy. Conservatives have been on the wrong side of moral history, slavery, Jim Crow
( Government torture) Segregation, Eradication of child labor, War, Miscegenation laws, Immigration, Civil rights, Equal Education for non-whites, FHA, VHA and G.I. Bill benefits for non-whites, The environmental movement, Women rights. Conservatives have a horrible moral history record, but many white Christians identify with being conservative and damning anything liberal or progressive. When you think of slavery, lynching, segregation, no race mixing etc... who do you think of? the hippie tree hugging make love not war liberal white? or the conservative Sunday church going conservative white? It's a challenge for white evangelicals to see blacks as victims, and that's because of their close association with white racist conservatives. Many of these racist belong to the Republican Party. One of the founders of Christian conservatism is Jerry Falwell, he and others used abortion as a divider, cont...
but I believe the protecting of segregated schools was the real reason. The school did not admit African Americans. In 1970 the Court ruled IRS policy: “Under the Internal Revenue Code, properly construed, racially discriminatory private schools are not entitled to the Federal tax exemption provided for charitable, educational institutions, and persons making gifts to such schools are not entitled to the deductions provided in case of gifts to charitable, educational institutions.” When the IRS start inquiring about their racial policies. Falwell was furious. “In some states,” he famously complained, “It’s easier to open a massage parlor than a Christian school.” They finally admitted one Black, but also stipulated that any students who engaged in interracial dating, or who were even associated with organizations that advocated interracial dating, would be expelled. They're selective in their moral outrage. They side with the teen who killed two protesters and wounded other at a BLM protest, what happened to being pro-life? people over property? This message of hate hidden in the conservatism movement is hurting true Christianity
We love Pastor John!
Burn Loot Murder runs wild but no church.
Go Grace Community Church!!!
I feel like the type of person that would go to that church but still wear my mask
Totally up to you.
And some still do....after all, its going to take time to undo all the fear that they instilled in the people these past many months. We’ve all been trained on some level to believe their narrative. The more data that comes in we’ll slowly start to feel more at ease again. And besides the Flu season is right around the corner and I’m going to keep a close on OM how many deaths occur from the Flu Strain this year in comparison to Covid. The last 4 years of you check the stats with the CDC you’ll start to get the gist. What’s unfortunate is all the false reporting (FRAUD) with many who have died in this past 4-5 month period labeling all deaths Covid deaths! My guess is we all (or the majority) already have Covid and how convenient to just label everyone’s death without reference to their underlying health conditions (even blood types). The first step in breaking free of the mass deception is to not believe it! God bless you and do come to Grace if it’s only once if you can!
Jesus is alive!! All churches need to step up and claim their 1st amendment rights..
Keep it open.....! I just hope all the churches do the same, but not many pastor have the courage show by pastor McArthur!!!!
*The bars get to stay open till midnight!*
HOLD THE LINE
Why should anyone worry. The parishioners have been given the facts. If they ignore them, let them get the virus and leave their God to protect them.
Well I'm not worried, but they probably have a large number of older members that will be impacted. Even the younger ones will take this home to their families. People will follow John MacArthur to their demise, I suppose. Its sad.
I am NOT worried. JESUS > covid 19 !!!
Well the actual science of the virus (not Pope Fauci's propaganda) is in their favor but yes, they are adults who have chosen to put their trust in God rather than in Caesar. If the Lord decides to use a respiratory virus to take anyone of them home in mid August they will no doubt be more than happy to go. Will be checking back for the body count periodically but I predict a very low number. Certainly no higher than the numbers of WalMart shoppers and employees dropping dead right now.
They will be fine. Stop freaking out
Good for them.
Finally some people with the courage to stand up for their rights especially they’re religious freedom.
I guess they really believe in Jesus , which is good because their going to be meeting him soon.
Shutup you sheep just keep believing everything they tell you
I can’t wait to meet my Lord and Savor Jesus Christ!
@@InvestingWhileBroke Paul Kersey is coming for you.
@@jasonc1817 Well , Your Gonna Meet Him !
Everyone will meet Jesus. Those who have accepted his free gift of salvation will be welcomed with open arms. Those who reject Jesus will be rejected by God for denying the free gift of salvation.
Exercising their constitutional right...Make them stop.
All Christians please pray for Grace Church 🙏🙏🙏
Praise the LORD for Community Church and Macarthur.
its not a message of defiance, you're reporting is not right cbs. they've been allowed by a judge
Archbishop Fulton Sheen (The Catholic Hour) "A nation always gets the kind of politicians it deserves. If a time ever comes when the religious Jews, Protestants and Catholics ever have to suffer under a totalitarian state, which would deny to them the right to worship God according to the light of their conscience, it will be because for years they thought it made no difference what kind of people represented them in Congress, and because they abandoned the spiritual in the realm of the temporal."
Amazing praise God
Satan can try to stop the gospel, but his efforts just strengthen the church. God is dividing the wheat from the tares before the harvest.
What a horrible witness. Christian chaplain at a local hospital. Help people die in overrun ERs and hospitals. And they’re getting younger. Can’t take care of broken legs or MIs because John needs to gather in super spreaders. Not even going to appeal to the Sacred Text. This is beyond galactic self absorption. Became aware of this video by a nurse considering Christ. Sitting on the floor in tears because the community doesn’t understand the importance of the implications of their choices. She’s turned off, thanks very much. It’s a temporary emergency shut down, not an attack on “American” freedoms.
"While today's actions could result in citations, right now they are focused on education". Translation: the restrictions we imposed on you is totally unconstitutional, will not stand in a court of law that has any respect for the constitution, and is just really bad PR and might cost a few of us reelection considering the large number of Roman Catholics living in LA. Therefore, we will settle for continued efforts of fear mongering and intimidation in order to keep people out of church indefinitely, thus making progress towards expunging the pernicious notion from society that meaningful community, existential purpose, and authority can be found elsewhere from the omnibenevolent, sovereign, socialist oligarchs of the state of California and the dogmas thereof.
Nailed it.
God bless you all
The order to stay in from YAHWEH is not for the Gentiles but for HIS true chosen people that are scattered the true children of Yashar’el Isaiah 26:20-21
Come, my people, enter into your chambers, and shut your doors about you: hide yourself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, YAHWEH comes out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose את eth-her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. YESHA'YAHU (ISAIAH) 26:20-21 את CEPHER
It was a Beautiful service!
God Always Wins!
Misleading headline. As of my post on 8/21/2020, the court has never ordered services be cancelled. The county keeps trying but keeps failing. Keep up (caugh) good work.
Their body, their choice. Protect YOURSELF if you're scared.
But then they infect innocent people.
@@alejandrodiaz3754
Innocent people who are afraid of this virus need to protect THEMSELVES. We are free to do so.
GOD BLESS THE US 1st AMEDMENT and should not infinger,
Amen !
Fron Republic of Catholic Vietnam.
Gods testing our Faith.
God never works one way. It is a test for us as a believers, but it also test for the people in the government local and federal.
Rouben Petrosian Yup , they are called to obey God as well
God bless his Church
Good for him!
Are the unsaved inside or outside of said building? Do we wish to accomplish a portion of God’s word? What if the orders were for us to fulfill go ye therefore into all of the world and preach the gospel? Can we at least consider this view?
DO NOT BE AFRAID!!!! This is said MULTIPLE TIMES IN SCRIPTURE.... If God is for us WHO CAN STAND AGAINST US??? No ONE !!! 🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏💪
we rise!
AMEN...
a peaceful protest i can stand behind..
Seconded.
I’ll Third that 😀
GOOD!! Stand up to Gov.Gruesome Newsome.
170,000 dead GOD helps those who help themselves
Can you give me the chapter and verse in the Bible that says ‘God helps those that help themselves” ?
AnD ThE LoRd SAId ThoU ShAlT NoT HaVE ChUrcH OuTDooRs foR Ye WiLL DiSPlEaSe JeSus!
Will see what happens I live half a mile from the church, its going to be crazy if they get a breakout in the church
You need to get a grip. Stop watching the fear pron on teevee.
They will... I feel bad for the healthcare workers in the area
With a 99.96% recovery rate? LOL You are too "woke" to understand mathematics.
@@melaniexoxo no, they won't. stop being a brainwashed zombie moron incapable of thought outside of left wing media.
Gotta get those donations
Pastor MacArthur doesn’t need the money. But you’re just here to do a drive by comment to make yourself feel good.
Gotta get those comment likes
You’re more than welcome to visit our church so you can see and hear for yourself if that’s the motivation for the church to be open. All are welcome to Grace Community, esp.those that are accusing and slandering Pastor John and the church for supposedly wanting to stay open for “donations”. If we can feel like this over a church who is keeping their doors open to obey God and serve people and nourish their spiritual needs, can we also have the same sentiment for liquor stores, abortion clinics(who kill way more people/lives than COVID), and casinos who are open and who’s only purpose is to literally make money out of you? I hope you consider this invitation. If you’re far from Grace Community(Sun Valley), we have online streaming Sundays at 10:30am. Lord-willing see you there! And bring family & friends too. Blessings!
Actually it was the people of the congregation who decided on their own to start coming back so not financial at all. The majority of folks who tithed probably had been sending them in during the life stream services anyway. Nothing to do with donations at all.
2 years later we know who was right and who was laying.
I stand with Grace Community church!
Hello pretty
How are you doing??
The law says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. They are doing nothing wrong but for sure the governor of California thinks he has more power than congress amd the constitution. He is not above the law
where si?
I support them defying tyranny !
They were peacefully protesting the governor’s power play.
Wlep they're gonna be closer to god in a few weeks
I’d hate to be one of the people trying to suppress his followers on judgment day.
If it was only those stupid ones attending those places dying I'll say let them. But they bring into any community and cause other people to suffer because of their( faith)...what god would be o k with such stupidity.???
Ooh you Godless people!
Angel Villegas there isn’t actually a pandemic it’s all a massive scam and literally everyone you know is STILL fine... 6 months later.... 🧐
@@angelvillegas5769 The stupidity is in the minds of those like you who would shut down society and the economy for months, years for a disease which is less lethal than the flu. How can you produce food with a closed economy? I suppose you think it is produced by robots in a supermarket.
Your to be obedient to authority. It's a test of faith. So defiant against closing doors but still wearing masks. Hypocritical
freeeeeeeeedooommmmm USA USA USA 🇺🇸
Fight the power!!!
Keep up the Good Fight GCC!!!
@ defiance & resisting
Sad. Some wore masks but some chose not to wear masks. Selfless those who wore it. Wearing a mask is a small sacrifice and yet they sacrifice so much by doing right by God. 🤦🏻♀️ You'd think God does not want people to be ignorant.
This is really a sad act of defiance.
GOOD
✝️
HALLELUJA!
It's a radical idea but why not have services outside in the parking lot?! 🤔 Need to pray on this. 🙏🏾
Because this is all a hoax and scam pandemic.
@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC 🤔 need reliable, without a reasonable doubt evidence to prove your theory.
Ó R what’s the survival rate in CA? 99.8% all this over a virus that’s equivalent to the flu in terms of deaths
@@petersherwood202 keep venting but at the same time show your evidence that backs your claim. That's all I ask. No judgment.
@@or1750 Additionally, Oregon reports 167 with confirmed COVID, and 43 in ICU. There are 62 hospitals in Oregon, so if they were equally distributed, each hospital wouldn't even have three cases each and 19 hospitals would not have an ICU patient.
Plus, of those who have had COVID-19, only 8.2% have needed to be hospitalized, versus 91.8% who have been able to recover at home. And the original argument for the lockdown was to ensure that the medical community would not be overrun. I think that we can safely establish the fact that that didn't happen.
John MacArthur serves the Lord..not man.
Actually, he serves his bank. You just haven’t figured that out yet.
@@daisyjane221 You're just angry because he makes money..if anyone deserves to make money from his church its John Macarthur..a true minister of God's word. He's not one of these fake prosperity preachers you see on TV...his earnings are well deserved.
Way to go Grace Community and John MacArthur. An unregenerate world has no say on when, and if you come together to worship Christ; and neither does the State of California have the jurisdiction to regulate and control your church activities. You’re not under the law of sin and death; you’re under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus! The unsaved world has a spirit of fear and feigned faith: The congregation of Grace Community and John MacArthur have been given a spirit of power, and of love, and of a ‘sound mind’. THE MIND OF CHRIST! And Hallelujah for it.
Can anyone show me in the new testament where Jesus or any his apostles including the apostle Paul defied the Roman government and disobeyed laws. I want to see who's bold enough to now twist scriptures and lie on the Messiah. And please explain how are these pastors following the examples of the Christ. How?
The Apostles were martyred for disobeying government officials. Also they are not disobeying any laws only unlawful edicts not passed by duly elected legislators. They are obeying the highest law of the land which is the constitution it is the local officials who are acting lawlessly. And finally I recall the disciples telling the governing authorities that they were going to obey God rather than men. Oh, and that passive Christ you mention... that would be the one that took a whip to folks desecrating the temple right?
@@mkshffr4936 Wrong, it was the Jewish high priest that were responsible for the demise of early church and not the government. The conflict was and has and always been from within the religious sect IE: the Pharisees, Sadducee and the scribes. Christ's betrayal wasn't orchestrated by the govt, the apostles beatings wasn't from the govt, Paul's stoning wasn't done by the govt, it was and has always been from like minded so call believers of God. Pilate even wanted to release Christ but wanted who were ones who wanted to crucify him? And where in God's name in the entire 66 books did the Lord ever condone being defiant in a health pandemic? When did He ever tell his people in the scriptures not to listen to the medical professionals? Proverbs is a book of ancient wisdom still applicable for today times in practicing common sense. Your examples are erroneous at best. There are no scriptures that back defiance against govt rule for physical safety. The apostles were not martyred for being in defiance of a health pandemic, so don't insult them like that. Opening a church is not using wisdom, it's not being examples of Christ, it's not fair to the community, it's wrong and people who hide behind what you consider being biblical and Christ like is actually and act of rebellion against what the word of wisdom truly represents..
@@LordCommandor No it was Rome that killed Paul not the Sanhedrin.
@@mkshffr4936 Romans 13
Obey Your Government Rulers
13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. 2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves. 3 People who do right don’t have to fear the rulers. But those who do wrong must fear them. Do you want to be free from fearing them? Then do only what is right, and they will praise you.
4 Rulers are God’s servants to help you. But if you do wrong, you have reason to be afraid. They have the power to punish, and they will use it. They are God’s servants to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must obey the government, not just because you might be punished, but because you know it is the right thing to do. 6 And this is why you pay taxes too. Those rulers are working for God, and they give all their time to the work of ruling. 7 Give everyone what you owe them. If you owe them any kind of tax, then pay it. Show respect to those you should respect. And show honor to those you should honor.
The apostle Paul writings.
@@LordCommandor Written by the guy who was killed for not giving Caesar the honor he thought he was due. A little more careful exegesis is in order. That was clearly not a blanket demand for total obedience. In this case it is the state and local officials who are in violation of the law of the land and the law of God.
There is no way that the constitution can be construed to provide greater deference to the rights of abortuaries, big box stores, and anarchists than to the church.
We render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's but not that which is God. Polycarp seems to have agreed on that point. The two bit dictators have no right to forbid the free exercise of religion or the right to peaceably assemble especially when applied unevenly and on the basis of a phoney crisis.
If people would only use their brains.....
Many old man is most dangereous in the church for covid19. Specially, asymtomatic is most dangereous in the church. I remember that Shincheonji spreads covid19 in Deagu. And Covid19 is spreading in the churches in Korea. Religious facilities are structures that rapidly spread throughout the region.
This is early tribulation day.
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@@Hanson0687 I didn't finish my setence, Abotta drop some Bible knowledge here.
Average age of death with (not of) covid in the US is 78 which "just happens" to be the average life expectancy in the US. Interesting. Your chances of dying from covid in the US if you do not live in a nursing home is vanishingly small. Winter load deaths from any cause this year has been right in line with previous years indicating that "covid deaths" are statistically people who would have died from other causes anyway.
Keep in mind that anyone who is concerned about catching the Rona is free to not attend. The members just began showing up on their own. No one ordered them to attend.
Who is that Chinese man behind pastor McArthur?
Oh I pray those people don’t get sick!
God doesn't even hear you. You pray to the air you hypocrite.
Nun yerbusiness pray for your Trump ass too😷🙏🏼
they won't. turn off the left wing fearmongering you simpleton.
@@barrystalder3137 What do I have to do with Trump? He's hellish like all you libs and conservatives. You both end up in hell, says the Lord of hosts. Get a clue!
God raised up John MacArthur for this hour.
Yay
THE PASTOR NEEDS THE MONEY. FOR HIS LIFE STYLE. HIS CAR PAYMENT ON HIS ROLLS-ROYCE IS DUE.
It’s all about the money. But his homies are too stupid to understand this.
You obviously don’t know enough about Pastor MacArthur. Looks him up and see what he does with the offering funds.