Yeahhhh I don’t blame you for feeling like this episode was rushed. It definitely needed a few more minutes (and definitely more time to cook animation-wise.) Frankly this spinoff needed at least 6 episodes.
@@JustEmeraldStar55 this episode alone likely either needed 2 longer episodes or even broken and fleshed out into at least 3. The first episode needed more than one episode as well.
Tbh Silly Billy I'm really glad Jake stood up for himself to his own father for the very first time in his life that they wouldn't accept him for who he is and I'm also both very impressed and proud of him for what he did not just for himself but for his lover as well and I'm happy for them!
this episode felt all over the place pacing wise. it tried to do too much with very little runtime. there wasn't much time to breathe, with each scene feeling like it was rushing to get to the next one with very little natural transitions
While the end of the end finally had a good transitioning and cliffhanger, transitioning has been a huge problem overall and with even with characters like Ellie go from one episode (and even season/spinoff) to another.
@@nick0911 I wish they did more like two week for consistency to start and when are as 100% on the season as they can be (that includes trailers and other elements that don’t have to be done in between weeks), then go to or and even 2 episodes per week (if they solid enough or near done into the next project/season). Having it every 10 days highlights ONC tends to be consistent at being inconsistent.
@@nick0911 The funny thing is a lot of this was drafted, storyboarded, and recorded months into All-Stars premiering. Meaning they had all this time to refine it and they chose to spat out 14 minutes of what I assume is 3 or so months of work, meaning they either pull their punches or felt they can say all they can in the allotted time. Personally a few more minutes would have flesh this story out better along with them revealing more info into Tom’s parents and certain dialogue moments be emphasized more including between Jake and Miriam.
The best out of the 3 episodes of TomJake imo. Showing more of backstory for Tom and showcasing growth for Jake. I think both of them were really good. Plus, Lucia is so fun and I love how she's written.
Yes this was a very heavy yet wholesome episode. This is 100% turning into a full fledged slice of life story and honestly I'm all here for it. This episode hit me hard and I feel for Tom especially. I relate to him a lot. Great reaction as always Billy! Can't wait for the next episode! ❤
this episode just got me wondering “who the hecks is officer johnson?” im theorizing that he might be a future side character or a bit part in the season 4 plot. i have no idea though, lol
This is where I wished the patrolling with Johnson and Tom was shown in either this or last episode. If they would have canonized Johnson as one the cops in the remake finale that failed in their pursuit of Jensen while animosity towards Tom because of it in some way, then Johnson could have used to serve as Jake’s mirror and warning of what will happen to him if if doesn’t resolve his issues.
@@marklisowski6549 I’m not too sure they want to show Police Brutality on record especially if they aren’t choosing to go political or create a bigger message. Lost opportunity, but it’s whatever.
@@justezek8596 they kinda did actually with Tom being brutalized and even mutilated to have more permanent facial scars. It was more indirect. That said, I do get the concern with political, but a bigger message could have been noted that, while you have a cop like Johnson, you do have cops like Tom and Lucia.
Billy, you need to make more Inanimate Insanity reactions. The show gets way better later on! Episode 15 will have better animation and will start to get real good, and boy you will wanna see season 2. When you have time please watch more Inanimate Insanity, it’s amazing!
So far, Tom having some dream or nightmare is a recurrence in this spinoff (as I think the snoring that Gabby and Ellie heard was to note Tom dreaming last episode). I wished this was showcased more in the episode, like to note whether Tom has some phobia with knives or, based on the first nightmare that started the spinoff (that had Jensen and Jake say similar lines regarding Tom’s eyes), that what caused Tom to be triggered was someone like or in particular Jake holding that knife (based on the nightmare this episode) to note that Jake unknowingly can trigger Tom in some way positive and negative.
has nobody noticed how in the one with miriam and jake at the beginning, jake’s eyes weren’t correctly colored? he looked possessed and i haven’t seen anyone talk about it
That is a lot of animation errors and questionable choice on this whole spinoff. Vanessa, Grett’s VA, noted how they are not handling Tom being cop not very well. While an officer can use their patrol car for off duty reasons, it has to be within authorization and parameters. The spinoff has not reflected that. Jake being in the patrol car is a bad example and inappropriate. Had Tom and his mom been in the patrol car while conversing to create a safe space for Tom, that could have an example of Lucia pulling some strings appropriately. Also, some of Tom’s clothing choices seem either confusing or an afterthought. With this episode, was the blue sweater supposed to noted Tom as a patient. If so, why didn’t they have him in a hospital gown?
Loved your reaction Billy! Agreed this episode did feel kinda rushed in some parts. 1-3 more minutes would have given it time to wrap up some more. However, the story is GOOD I must say, it covered certain topics better than DCAS in my opinion. Anyhow, let's see the season finale!
Good point. It is likely a bad oversight to not animate it. While that sounds stupid to point out, that is a small detail that is open to criticism whenever this appear in any media. The only times characters aren’t wearing seatbelt in vehicle is a an intentional choice (which this wasn’t) or some other relevant factor (which is also wasn’t)
For those that missed this, Alec and Shawn have the same VA. While doing that can be argued at as a bit of a retcon, doing that is likely going to be some underdeveloped context of how Alec is able get into Jake’s head notably.
Yeah…. And I’m nowhere near an artist (I’m pretty sure he wanted some art for it or smth for his next reaction) I just want him to react to it without needing a crazy goal to get the next reaction 😭
Hey Billy it me! Jasper! This part was amazing and your video was amazing as always but I can to say something! I think you would really like Epic The Musical (if you haven’t seen it already). Because I would love to see you listen/react to it! There are amazing animations on UA-cam that makes it more visual!
I feel like they should have separated Tom's and Jake's past into two individual episodes. This episode felt super rushed and barely gave any breathing room for the two character developments to fully bloom.
While this is a nitpick, the show overall needs to think about framing, phrasing and wording better. With this episode, bravery and courage got blurred. While they sound interchangeable, there is a noted difference between them that wasn’t highlighted enough.
This entire spinoff is rushed while DCAS felt too slow. I’m not sure what happened between remake and DCAS, but pacing is becoming one the biggest issues with DC.
@@trustinsfavchild one thing that could have done later and made better was Jake telling off his dad to get get a better payoff that interactions with Jake, Lucia and even Miriam can have refocused to get to that payoff.
This episode highlights how rushed this entire spinoff has been, and a case of ONC is churning out content at pace they can’t handle or give itself enough time and breathing room to fully think things through and fleshing/editing things properly. This is where someone like a proofreader (among other staff) could get blamed, but I don’t think they are being given enough time and parameters to do their job properly.
Did Tom really need an abusive father? Like I get it adds to his character, but I am getting so tired of EVERYONE having some tragic backstory. I wouldn't be surprised if Miriam gets her sad backstory next episode.
HIs abusive father honestly explains a lot and adds to his character actually. It especially explains on so much of his behavior, and why he sometimes doesn't understand social cues, why he often likes things that are considered "child-like", and he even said it to Gabby in ep 2, how it felt like being a kid again. Like that's a common coping mechanism victims of parental abuse when they're young face, and Tom having an abusive father feels like it explains and adds onto him
Based on how the episode ran and your thumbnail, why isn’t Connor in the episode at all when a major narrative of Connor, that didn’t involve Riya, was being a father figure overall and to Jake and even Tom(my) more specifically.
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6:33 “OH GOD IT’S OFFICER CHEEKS” i literally died of laughter 😭
Yeahhhh I don’t blame you for feeling like this episode was rushed. It definitely needed a few more minutes (and definitely more time to cook animation-wise.) Frankly this spinoff needed at least 6 episodes.
@@JustEmeraldStar55 this episode alone likely either needed 2 longer episodes or even broken and fleshed out into at least 3. The first episode needed more than one episode as well.
Tbh Silly Billy I'm really glad Jake stood up for himself to his own father for the very first time in his life that they wouldn't accept him for who he is and I'm also both very impressed and proud of him for what he did not just for himself but for his lover as well and I'm happy for them!
I love how raitix is like every other character in the series 😭
bros the honorary side character
To be fair raitix also voiced Shawn in S1
@@CoolPlayersVic true I forgot about that
Honestly, this absolutely made me cry I didn’t know Tom had a bad childhood
this episode felt all over the place pacing wise. it tried to do too much with very little runtime. there wasn't much time to breathe, with each scene feeling like it was rushing to get to the next one with very little natural transitions
Right!! It makes me kinda glad the new season's eps are gonna have 10 day hiatuses instead of a week so that they can work on minor things like this
While the end of the end finally had a good transitioning and cliffhanger, transitioning has been a huge problem overall and with even with characters like Ellie go from one episode (and even season/spinoff) to another.
I know! I thought it was just me but the entire time it felt way to fast paced
@@nick0911 I wish they did more like two week for consistency to start and when are as 100% on the season as they can be (that includes trailers and other elements that don’t have to be done in between weeks), then go to or and even 2 episodes per week (if they solid enough or near done into the next project/season).
Having it every 10 days highlights ONC tends to be consistent at being inconsistent.
@@nick0911 The funny thing is a lot of this was drafted, storyboarded, and recorded months into All-Stars premiering. Meaning they had all this time to refine it and they chose to spat out 14 minutes of what I assume is 3 or so months of work, meaning they either pull their punches or felt they can say all they can in the allotted time. Personally a few more minutes would have flesh this story out better along with them revealing more info into Tom’s parents and certain dialogue moments be emphasized more including between Jake and Miriam.
Can’t wait to see your reaction to episode 4 of TomJake.
The best out of the 3 episodes of TomJake imo. Showing more of backstory for Tom and showcasing growth for Jake. I think both of them were really good. Plus, Lucia is so fun and I love how she's written.
I need to hear that dude in season 4.
Yes this was a very heavy yet wholesome episode. This is 100% turning into a full fledged slice of life story and honestly I'm all here for it. This episode hit me hard and I feel for Tom especially. I relate to him a lot. Great reaction as always Billy! Can't wait for the next episode! ❤
How do you relate to him? are you okay?
JAKE ATE THAT UP THO
oooo on time for once :)
Edit: NVM THERE WERE PATRONS HERE FIRST 😭
BILLY WHERE IS EP 4 REACTION!?!? I’M PANICKING!!!
this episode just got me wondering “who the hecks is officer johnson?” im theorizing that he might be a future side character or a bit part in the season 4 plot. i have no idea though, lol
This is where I wished the patrolling with Johnson and Tom was shown in either this or last episode. If they would have canonized Johnson as one the cops in the remake finale that failed in their pursuit of Jensen while animosity towards Tom because of it in some way, then Johnson could have used to serve as Jake’s mirror and warning of what will happen to him if if doesn’t resolve his issues.
Also Johnson is Derek's last name haha
@@ricoxvica i know that lol
@@marklisowski6549 I’m not too sure they want to show Police Brutality on record especially if they aren’t choosing to go political or create a bigger message. Lost opportunity, but it’s whatever.
@@justezek8596 they kinda did actually with Tom being brutalized and even mutilated to have more permanent facial scars. It was more indirect. That said, I do get the concern with political, but a bigger message could have been noted that, while you have a cop like Johnson, you do have cops like Tom and Lucia.
YOU'RE NOT LATE I'M LATE
OFFICER CHEEKS IS AT MARCUS' HOUSE 6:33
The fact Miriam and Ellie were not really enemies anymore had me confused
Billy, you need to make more Inanimate Insanity reactions. The show gets way better later on! Episode 15 will have better animation and will start to get real good, and boy you will wanna see season 2. When you have time please watch more Inanimate Insanity, it’s amazing!
So far, Tom having some dream or nightmare is a recurrence in this spinoff (as I think the snoring that Gabby and Ellie heard was to note Tom dreaming last episode). I wished this was showcased more in the episode, like to note whether Tom has some phobia with knives or, based on the first nightmare that started the spinoff (that had Jensen and Jake say similar lines regarding Tom’s eyes), that what caused Tom to be triggered was someone like or in particular Jake holding that knife (based on the nightmare this episode) to note that Jake unknowingly can trigger Tom in some way positive and negative.
has nobody noticed how in the one with miriam and jake at the beginning, jake’s eyes weren’t correctly colored? he looked possessed and i haven’t seen anyone talk about it
is it when he looks like he has white eyes?
That is a lot of animation errors and questionable choice on this whole spinoff. Vanessa, Grett’s VA, noted how they are not handling Tom being cop not very well. While an officer can use their patrol car for off duty reasons, it has to be within authorization and parameters. The spinoff has not reflected that. Jake being in the patrol car is a bad example and inappropriate. Had Tom and his mom been in the patrol car while conversing to create a safe space for Tom, that could have an example of Lucia pulling some strings appropriately.
Also, some of Tom’s clothing choices seem either confusing or an afterthought. With this episode, was the blue sweater supposed to noted Tom as a patient. If so, why didn’t they have him in a hospital gown?
When is "HI I'M TREVOR ONCE AGAIN"
@@TheJaseCrew good one, I might update everyone on S4 when I get back from vacay
Loved your reaction Billy! Agreed this episode did feel kinda rushed in some parts. 1-3 more minutes would have given it time to wrap up some more. However, the story is GOOD I must say, it covered certain topics better than DCAS in my opinion. Anyhow, let's see the season finale!
YAY BILLY POSTED
SILLY BILLY DROPPED
Silly Billy, you've got good content
Wait hold on... when Tom and Jake were in the car they weren't wearing seat belts
Good point. It is likely a bad oversight to not animate it.
While that sounds stupid to point out, that is a small detail that is open to criticism whenever this appear in any media. The only times characters aren’t wearing seatbelt in vehicle is a an intentional choice (which this wasn’t) or some other relevant factor (which is also wasn’t)
Donuts
For those that missed this, Alec and Shawn have the same VA.
While doing that can be argued at as a bit of a retcon, doing that is likely going to be some underdeveloped context of how Alec is able get into Jake’s head notably.
Oh, interesting.
Dude. Please. I’m begging you. I need the Inanimate Insanity reactions. The show is SO good, and I really want you to react to more of it.
EXACTLY
Yeah…. And I’m nowhere near an artist (I’m pretty sure he wanted some art for it or smth for his next reaction) I just want him to react to it without needing a crazy goal to get the next reaction 😭
@@nicerandomdude I did make art for it, but it sucked 😅
@@TobiasClips7734 well your definition of sucked would probably be so much better than mine if I made one 😭😭
YES PLEASE
yippee another reaction (this is what i live for)
Hey Billy it me! Jasper! This part was amazing and your video was amazing as always but I can to say something! I think you would really like Epic The Musical (if you haven’t seen it already). Because I would love to see you listen/react to it! There are amazing animations on UA-cam that makes it more visual!
Is it weird I wait for silly billys reactions to watch the episodes because I like commentary…
YES SILLY BILLY UPLOADED (PLS SAY HI FOR MY BDAY)
Im not Silly Billy but Happy Birthday 🎉
@@thurzinngames3297 TY
Happy bday
SILLY BILLY LIKE SILLY BILLY FROM FN-
8:30 you mean rosa maria right?
I feel like they should have separated Tom's and Jake's past into two individual episodes. This episode felt super rushed and barely gave any breathing room for the two character developments to fully bloom.
this episode was rushed 😭😭it’s so sad because it had potential
ye true
Yeah I’m early to an episode
YAYYYYYY
11:30 I mean theyre gay so...
8:30 you mean Kai?
While this is a nitpick, the show overall needs to think about framing, phrasing and wording better. With this episode, bravery and courage got blurred. While they sound interchangeable, there is a noted difference between them that wasn’t highlighted enough.
Guys what was the secret weapon when he always talked about Riya in the DCAS videos I stopped watching them a while back
Ima be real, this episode felt RLLY rushed, and the only interesting scenes for me were Jake telling off his dad and baby Tom.
I agree. this entire episode felt like it progressed too fast and I think it could've been executed in a better way
This entire spinoff is rushed while DCAS felt too slow. I’m not sure what happened between remake and DCAS, but pacing is becoming one the biggest issues with DC.
@@marklisowski6549 I actually really enjoyed episode 2, but you make a good point
@@trustinsfavchild one thing that could have done later and made better was Jake telling off his dad to get get a better payoff that interactions with Jake, Lucia and even Miriam can have refocused to get to that payoff.
@@marklisowski6549 yeah that could've been good you make a point
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This episode highlights how rushed this entire spinoff has been, and a case of ONC is churning out content at pace they can’t handle or give itself enough time and breathing room to fully think things through and fleshing/editing things properly. This is where someone like a proofreader (among other staff) could get blamed, but I don’t think they are being given enough time and parameters to do their job properly.
You summed it up perfectly
Did Tom really need an abusive father? Like I get it adds to his character, but I am getting so tired of EVERYONE having some tragic backstory. I wouldn't be surprised if Miriam gets her sad backstory next episode.
She had hers, her family died in a car crash, just watch S1 episode 5
@@josephm3783 I was more so talking about childhood backstory.
HIs abusive father honestly explains a lot and adds to his character actually. It especially explains on so much of his behavior, and why he sometimes doesn't understand social cues, why he often likes things that are considered "child-like", and he even said it to Gabby in ep 2, how it felt like being a kid again. Like that's a common coping mechanism victims of parental abuse when they're young face, and Tom having an abusive father feels like it explains and adds onto him
Dan doesn’t have a sad backstory because he’s an NPC
Based on how the episode ran and your thumbnail, why isn’t Connor in the episode at all when a major narrative of Connor, that didn’t involve Riya, was being a father figure overall and to Jake and even Tom(my) more specifically.
This ep is so rushed
real
How so?
It has the same pacing as the other episodes