Bought 11 of these for about $AU14. Of the 6 inked so far only one was a tad scratchy and that disappeared fairly quickly. They write really well. All came with fairly basic but effective converters. They all have XF nibs but that works for lining. Extraordinary value! 👍🏻
I bought both Lamy Safari and a clone. Lamy works just fine, i enjoy every time i get it into my hand. The clone is made of cheap plastic, lightweight, scratches paper, clogs. I am looking for an excuse every time taking it into my hand. "At least it was cheap" - I calm down myself, while polishing the nib with 15000 grit sandpaper.
@@hornedowl_ I use both 8000 and 15000, and inspect nib under 50x microscope. It seems that some nibs have hard galvanic coating to reduce friction on paper. Once it is polished out, the steel doesn't slide well any more.
I got about a dozen of these. I think less than half of them had a crooked window like this one. The others lined up nicely. I gave away the crooked ones because they were awful to look at. I use the others where I wouldn't want to ruin a decent fountain pen. I toss them in a backpack or a pocket with keys. If they get damaged who cares.
I purchased 6 Jinhao 777 for $6.71 ($1.11/pen). Fine nibs which writes a bit like a fine/med. nib. I've inked three as of this writing, and only one needed just a tad bit of nib smoothing. Granted that this is not the same quality of a Lamy Safari, but for the cost, it is a nice pen to add to your collection. Perfect pen for a college student, or to use in your office for daily writing. I am wondering if is just a step up from the Jinhao 599. I have owned my metal Jinhao 599s for 5-6 yrs, and they are still in use (a knockoff of the Lamy Al Star, with a different style clip). One thing for sure, if one of the 777s goes missing, you will not be at a loss.
It’s just hard for me to accept that a product can be so shamelessly copied without consequence. The interesting thing is that these situations help with introspection. If the Lamy is $30 and the copy $10, your integrity is worth $20 to you. (Assuming you believe it’s wrong to steal ideas).
You think Lamy just created this pen out of thin air in a vacuum, without help from anything outside of them? The patent has run out. Get over it. The people that invented the Lamy already got everything they were gonna get out of it. I don't care if the investors that bought the company get more rich, because they didn't design it.
Its wrong to steal ideas, but tell me this what is the unique idea behind lamy safari body design. And what integrity is being lost in choosing a cheaper pen. Its is not being sold or advertised S LAMY'S CLONE. Also 20 $ can be a lot for someone from a 3rd world country. 20$ in my country can buy me food for about a week.
Or maybe the LAMY safari is just shamelessly overpriced? Furthermore, my experience is that the Safari is of inconsistent quality lately. They need competition and should reduce the price and improve quality,
Doesn't It feels wrong to sell a plastic pen for that much cost, after all these years and no price drops. It is almost justified to sell and buy knockoffs for this pen.
@@michaelhobbs8082 Do you even expect the large corporates to be ethical? They not only cheat and steal their customers, but also their own employees, and the only thing they care is, their own profits. Buying and encouraging knockoffs is way more ethical, since it forces these greedy corporates to do justice to their customers. There is nothing wrong in letting these corporates face some competition. They also blatantly steal smaller players' ideas, products and everything as much as they can and try to pass them off as their own. So, again, it's a free market, and it's fair that they drive down their monopolistically set prices, or improve their products enough to justify the higher prices compared to knockoffs. It might be these same corporates that actively propogate all these bad rumors to backstab the chinese knockoffs. However, from the great popularity of these knockoffs, at least in China, it's evident that there is really a huge population who don't care about some minor quality improvements for a huge difference in cost. They just wants something that works and fits their bills. So, why not?
This is how a free market functions no patent lasts forever so either the original company improves on the design and or the price other companies will
I ordered the same pen and i got it with the alignment of the ink window perfect ..... literally no changes apart from jinhao label on nib and barrel
Bought 11 of these for about $AU14. Of the 6 inked so far only one was a tad scratchy and that disappeared fairly quickly. They write really well. All came with fairly basic but effective converters. They all have XF nibs but that works for lining. Extraordinary value! 👍🏻
I bought both Lamy Safari and a clone. Lamy works just fine, i enjoy every time i get it into my hand. The clone is made of cheap plastic, lightweight, scratches paper, clogs. I am looking for an excuse every time taking it into my hand. "At least it was cheap" - I calm down myself, while polishing the nib with 15000 grit sandpaper.
15000 grit isn't going to do much alone
@@hornedowl_ I use both 8000 and 15000, and inspect nib under 50x microscope. It seems that some nibs have hard galvanic coating to reduce friction on paper. Once it is polished out, the steel doesn't slide well any more.
@@odissey2 that makes more sense
I'm curious how it compares to the 599, especially the metal version.
Can we use preppy nib in it ??
Do the nibs interchangeable?
I got about a dozen of these. I think less than half of them had a crooked window like this one. The others lined up nicely. I gave away the crooked ones because they were awful to look at. I use the others where I wouldn't want to ruin a decent fountain pen. I toss them in a backpack or a pocket with keys. If they get damaged who cares.
I purchased 6 Jinhao 777 for $6.71 ($1.11/pen). Fine nibs which writes a bit like a fine/med. nib.
I've inked three as of this writing, and only one needed just a tad bit of nib smoothing. Granted that
this is not the same quality of a Lamy Safari, but for the cost, it is a nice pen to add to your collection.
Perfect pen for a college student, or to use in your office for daily writing. I am wondering if is just a
step up from the Jinhao 599. I have owned my metal Jinhao 599s for 5-6 yrs, and they are still in
use (a knockoff of the Lamy Al Star, with a different style clip). One thing for sure, if one of the 777s
goes missing, you will not be at a loss.
Where did you buy Jinhao 777? I got 2 from taobao only cost about 0.6 us dollar for each
@@j.s180 : Purchased mine on Aliexpress in May, 2021. Current cost is $0.99. US.
@@HJKelley47 OK, thanks for the reply. I will try to find some.
Clone is best.
Is that EF or F
1:10
Put on extra o rin
why
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It’s just hard for me to accept that a product can be so shamelessly copied without consequence. The interesting thing is that these situations help with introspection. If the Lamy is $30 and the copy $10, your integrity is worth $20 to you. (Assuming you believe it’s wrong to steal ideas).
You think Lamy just created this pen out of thin air in a vacuum, without help from anything outside of them? The patent has run out. Get over it. The people that invented the Lamy already got everything they were gonna get out of it. I don't care if the investors that bought the company get more rich, because they didn't design it.
Its wrong to steal ideas, but tell me this what is the unique idea behind lamy safari body design. And what integrity is being lost in choosing a cheaper pen. Its is not being sold or advertised S LAMY'S CLONE.
Also 20 $ can be a lot for someone from a 3rd world country. 20$ in my country can buy me food for about a week.
Or maybe the LAMY safari is just shamelessly overpriced? Furthermore, my experience is that the Safari is of inconsistent quality lately. They need competition and should reduce the price and improve quality,
It’s still a clone. It still takes advantage of the work and design of others. It’s still wrong to buy clones.
Doesn't It feels wrong to sell a plastic pen for that much cost, after all these years and no price drops. It is almost justified to sell and buy knockoffs for this pen.
@@visaeryon”almost” - As in it’s almost ethical to steal.
@@michaelhobbs8082 Do you even expect the large corporates to be ethical? They not only cheat and steal their customers, but also their own employees, and the only thing they care is, their own profits. Buying and encouraging knockoffs is way more ethical, since it forces these greedy corporates to do justice to their customers. There is nothing wrong in letting these corporates face some competition. They also blatantly steal smaller players' ideas, products and everything as much as they can and try to pass them off as their own. So, again, it's a free market, and it's fair that they drive down their monopolistically set prices, or improve their products enough to justify the higher prices compared to knockoffs. It might be these same corporates that actively propogate all these bad rumors to backstab the chinese knockoffs. However, from the great popularity of these knockoffs, at least in China, it's evident that there is really a huge population who don't care about some minor quality improvements for a huge difference in cost. They just wants something that works and fits their bills. So, why not?
This is how a free market functions no patent lasts forever so either the original company improves on the design and or the price other companies will
Lamy is a big company. Why haven't they done anything yet?