New M4 Mac mini with M4 and M4 Pro CPUs - What's New - Perfect But Just One Flaw

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  • Опубліковано 31 жов 2024

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  • @digitalmarketinghumans
    @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому +27

    Yes yes yes! That mac mini price too and the base 16gb ram, this one is INSANELY GOOD!! Yes! The consumers have won and a big thanks to Snapdragon for the competition.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +7

      Yes competition pushed the on right direction. Now just the storage.

    • @tonyburzio4107
      @tonyburzio4107 2 дні тому +1

      Nothing to do with competition, thank TSMC increasing yield.

    • @digitalmarketinghumans
      @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому +2

      @@tonyburzio4107 It's probably all of the above...

    • @PawFromTheBroons
      @PawFromTheBroons 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidelYeah, 256gb is downright ridiculous.

    • @manoharmeka999
      @manoharmeka999 2 дні тому

      Mac Mini $600 for 10 core cpu
      Keyboard (full) $200
      Trackpad $150
      Monitor 4k - $400 (vesa mountable and height adjustable)
      Shouldn’t iMac be priced at $1300 for this configuration? Instead they are minting extra $200k for adding weird colors and continuing same design..
      Also the asking price for M4 Pro mini is too steep as if they created as state-of-art product. 8 gb extra costs $200, 256gb extra costs another $200 and the chip for 4 extra performance cores costs insanely $500 more.
      I wonder how consumers won here…

  • @TransplantHelper
    @TransplantHelper 2 дні тому +10

    I ordered mine today. Upgraded from the m1 which still works perfectly even edging daily in FCPX in 4K

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Will be nice upgrade

    • @gary-gt-tsang
      @gary-gt-tsang 2 дні тому

      Which configuration did you go with your new Mac Mini? I'm debating between M4 with 10/10/16 Core 32GB RAM and 512GB SSD ($1,199) vs M4 Pro with 12/16/16 Core 24GB RAM and 512GB SSD ($1,399).

    • @digitalmarketinghumans
      @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому

      It's wild isn't it? This little box..that can probably kick my M1's butt lol. Even the Base M4 would still win against the M1 Pro base I bet!

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 2 дні тому

      Nice upgrade and good timing on the upgrade. Some people hold on too long and lose out on massive tech upgrades and career perks, and some people upgrade too quick and don't get full benefits of their expensive computer. 4-6 years are good timelines to upgrade.

    • @basuotoko
      @basuotoko 2 дні тому

      @@digitalmarketinghumans The base M4 with 10 GPU cores, would still win against the M1 Pro base with 14 GPU cores ??? Additionally, the base M4 has a RAM bandwidth which is 100Gbit vs 200Gbit which is on the M1 Pro base... and Oh there are that extra 2 Performance cores on M1 Pro base as well...

  • @edwardsteinshouer2694
    @edwardsteinshouer2694 2 дні тому +11

    Ordered mine just after the apple site updated with the 512GB storage. Total win and getting 300 to trade in my M2 Mini, This will let me retire my windows PC .

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      Nice deal there.

    • @daillengineer
      @daillengineer 2 дні тому +1

      Hell of a deal

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 2 дні тому +2

      You paid $200 for an extra 256mb SSD storage 😮 wow
      well enjoy❤😊

  • @antiquemapsuk
    @antiquemapsuk 15 годин тому

    I am currently using a 2020 iMac with 64gb of RAM. I think I use most of this at times and it feels right for me. What amout of Unified RAM would I need on the new MacMini?

  • @whitepixels
    @whitepixels 2 дні тому +9

    For anyone complaining about the position of the power button on the new Mini... The simple fix (if you are one to power your Mini completely off) is to simply fit 4 x 1-inch high self-adhesive rubber feet on the base, which you can get from any good hardware store for a few dollars. Not only will it make it easier to get to the power button, but it will also have two other benefits... Better airflow for cooling, and less likely to move on your desk when you plug in peripherals into the USB-C ports on the front. This is what I will be doing with mine. :)

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      I guess but it might look a bit crazy if propped up too much. I never turn mine off so power button won't affect me.

    • @eotmanoftheyear
      @eotmanoftheyear 2 дні тому +1

      I want to so the same for better airflow

    • @offidano8821
      @offidano8821 День тому +1

      One could also orient it vertically.

    • @Ded-Ede
      @Ded-Ede 5 годин тому

      I see no indication that Apple have made any improvements so the M4 Mac mini and iPad Pro can work seamlessly and synergistically out the box. Many users with occasional macOS requirements do run our Mac mini as a headless Mac with the sole interface is a iPad Pro. Apple have given the same old clunky experience.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      @Ded-Ede I disagree but like to hear all sides

  • @robertallen5210
    @robertallen5210 День тому

    This release exceeded my expectations (which were already high.) I ordered an M4 Pro version with 1TB of storage. I found a slightly used Studio Display for just under $1k. I'm replacing an Intel-based iMac. I think it's better to be able to have separate components going forward. Thanks for this review. It reaffirms the validity of getting this product.

  • @krisopinions
    @krisopinions День тому

    Hi Thank's for the video. Is 16 gb enough for normal use and some final cut pro use or i need 24 gb?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому +1

      Yes, 16 should be fine. 24 is good too if you have the budget, but 16 can get most things done.

    • @krisopinions
      @krisopinions День тому

      @@craigneidel i have a imac M1 16 gb 1 to and very satisfy. But the new mac mini M4 Call me ;-) do you have a recommendation for a 32" screen? Thank you so much to took time to answer my question i'll really appreciate.

  • @arthurpolin8194
    @arthurpolin8194 10 годин тому

    How important is it to upgrade to the 48 gig ram and 20 core GPU if I’m doing some fairly serious video editing on Davinci Resolve?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      It's so hard to know as there are so many variables. Buy the best you can for your budget. Ram is more important than GPU cores IMO.

  • @ScottKish
    @ScottKish 11 годин тому

    Is the $200.00 core upgrade worth it on the Pro chip? Even with 24gb or RAM with 512GB? I currently have a M2 Pro with 16gb of RAM with 512GB.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      It's tough to say. We should wait for benchmarks.

  • @The_Cali_Dude_88
    @The_Cali_Dude_88 Годину тому

    This is what I’ve been hoping to see and it’s topped my best hopes❤

  • @huwon9
    @huwon9 24 хвилини тому

    I don't need an SD card reader. I have 6 cameras so I use an appropriate cable, connect the camera as USB Mass Storage and download using Image Capture.
    I'll probably get the base model M4, 256GB and upgrade to 32GB unified memory and 10 Gigabit Ethernet. I can always connect a fast ext NVMe SSD for more mass storage.

  • @garethdavies6094
    @garethdavies6094 День тому +2

    Very much agree about the lack of an SD card. So many photographers, amateur and professional, use the Mac OS.

  • @robertkrause3970
    @robertkrause3970 2 дні тому +2

    Does the Blluetooth work well? I couldn't use the built-in one on my M1 to connect my keyboard and trackpad. Too much interference from the housing itself.

  • @ivanmytube
    @ivanmytube День тому +1

    How to use an 2017 5K iMac as the display of this Mac Mini?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  18 годин тому

      You really can't unless you use something Luna display etc.

  • @ikidron1
    @ikidron1 19 годин тому

    what monitor would you pair with the mini m4? the studio is old.....

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  17 годин тому

      I would still pair the studio most likely if you can get on sale. Or BenQ 4K monitors. A few new 5K monitors are coming out soon which should be nice from others too but I need to test them.

  • @jimcabezola3051
    @jimcabezola3051 День тому

    Glad to see your renders wound up being very accurate!
    I really like this new M4 Mini and would pay for a model with 512K of on-board storage. That seems to be a sweet spot with my other Linux machines, too.
    The M1 Mac I use as a Linux box feels a bit cramped using its 256GB, though I have no compliants about its 8GB of RAM. My modest Linux requirements make 8GB of RAM work quite adequately. My second Mini of identical spec runs straight macOS 15 and is used as my...jukebox...running Apple Music all day. 256GB on THAT machine is quite all right for a music player.

  • @craut1809
    @craut1809 2 дні тому +5

    Yes, one thing missing. A space grey or space black option would have been icing on the cake.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому +1

      Yeah but for some reason I would still have bought silver.

    • @LeoLau-ip9bv
      @LeoLau-ip9bv День тому +1

      @@craigneidel lol

  • @fletcherbrown728
    @fletcherbrown728 20 годин тому

    What is the value of the Thunderbolt 5 ports. I are there any external drives and can read or write at that speed or is this something for potential future Drives?

    • @UWI-Anna
      @UWI-Anna 12 годин тому

      Future proofing.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 2 дні тому +3

    I pre-ordered the base model this afternoon, already have 1TB external storage for it.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      Nice. I'll get one in coming weeks to make a few videos.

  • @daillengineer
    @daillengineer 2 дні тому +2

    Loving it. Ordered the pro with 1TB so i no longer have to dock the MacBook Pro behind the 43” display. Now that this has the power i need, i can likely trade in the M2 Max MacBook and get a 15” m3 air

  • @Softrunner
    @Softrunner День тому

    I just ordered the Pro version, and sell my Imac M1 when it arrives. The only thing is now to get a good payable 4k monitor for it. Any suggestions?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Check out my channel as I reviewed BenQ and look up BenQ mid range monitor I reviewed a few weeks ago.

  • @Chris.Brisson
    @Chris.Brisson День тому

    How much for Mac Mini and three 2k displays (and whatever Thunderbolt dock may be necessary to drive three displays)? Why doesn't Apple sell an Thunderbolt dock?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  17 годин тому

      Yes, you need to factor in displays but still a great value.

    • @Chris.Brisson
      @Chris.Brisson 11 годин тому

      @@craigneidel perhaps, if happy using a single display.

  • @UWI-Anna
    @UWI-Anna 12 годин тому

    Upgraded to M4Pro 48gb from 16gb M1. Been waiting for this upgrade😃

  • @ddschur
    @ddschur День тому

    A dumb question but, what the heck! I have a MacBook Air 2022 M2 and am considering trading it in for the 2024 Mac mini. ..I am not a power user but LOVE new technology. I do not transport my a MacBook Air…I just use it in my office connected to the Mac Studio 27” display. I am trying to think of any technical downside (loss of capability to use fingerprint id, etc.). So…should I trade my MacBook Air M2, 2024 for the new Mac mini M4???

  • @reelwildcinematics
    @reelwildcinematics 2 дні тому

    Hi there, thank you for sharing the breakdown of the new Mac mini. I currently have a MacBook Air M2. I have been using it for video editing and it seems to be slowing down alot as I progress into more complex work. Is the M4 Pro version with bumped up RAM and storage a no-brainer at this point? Would like your opinion on this please... thanks again!

  • @waynejustinen2843
    @waynejustinen2843 2 дні тому

    So, how does the basic M4 compare with the M2 Pro reconditioned unit I just bought with 16 gb ram and no upgrades, where performance is concerned?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Both are fine for most things so I would not worry.

  • @digitaldevigner4080
    @digitaldevigner4080 День тому

    As nice as it is to have a SD card slot not everyone shoots photos or video with a camera that uses them. In the professional space many of us now use Cfast express cards or some other similar fast bandwidth cards. So the SD card slot on my 14" MBP has not been used since I bought it.
    On the flip side most non camera users likely never touch a SD card.
    It's a nice to have but only really fits a need for a niche group. It's also not really that difficult to add a SD card reader or even multiple readers to offload multiple cards at once. Especially on a desktop where they can be tucked away and one doesn't need to worry about moving around with the computer.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Yeah, actually if they would just give us 512 GB of SSD on the base I would have been happy.

    • @digitaldevigner4080
      @digitaldevigner4080 День тому

      @ agreed although internal storage matters much less to me in a desktop vs a laptop.
      Since desktops just sit there one can easily add external storage that’s a lot cheaper and likely fast enough to store photos, documents and music.

  • @jaymeez
    @jaymeez 2 дні тому +2

    Would be a big upgrade to my 2015 MacBook Pro Intel i5 Core 2 Duo with 8 gigs of Ram

  • @mden2490
    @mden2490 День тому

    Thanks for the video. I believe another flaw, you forgot to mention that the Mac studio has on the back are two USB-A slots. I think even if you bumped up to the M4 pro Mac mini, it still wouldn’t beat out even the M1 max studio for all it has. Just take a look at the 24 courses that the studio gives you and I think you can only get 20 cores on the M4 Pro

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Yes but they are much faster cores so it should outperform m1 studio.

    • @mden2490
      @mden2490 День тому

      @@craigneidel I respectfully disagree. The M1 Max studio has 24 core GPU and 400/s memory bandwidth , whereas the m4 mini has 16 cores, 16 core GPU with 276 gb/s bandwidth. I don't think the faster chip st is going to make up for this big difference.

  • @rhyde
    @rhyde 2 дні тому +2

    Howdy my friend! Fellow UA-camr here! I talk baseball over on my channel. I just bought the M2 Max Mac Studio, but I’m thinking of returning it for this to save some money.
    I do pretty straight forward video editing (HD 1080p recording through OBS, usually 10-20 min videos, some transitions, pictures, possibly player video highlights) and plan to use ECammLive and possibly some OBS/StreamLabsOBS for live streaming as well. Only use 1 screen as well.
    Do you think the base model M4 Pro with 12 CPU/16 GPU, 24GB RAM, 512GB SSD (also buy an external SSD) would be sufficient? Thanks!

    • @digitalmarketinghumans
      @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому

      Absolutely! I use OBS too to record videos with 4k quality + my videos are well over 30 minutes.
      My 64gb ram mac has no problem but looking at the activity monitor, it goes close to the 19-20ish' GB usage.
      I also have the MBP 14 M1 Pro with 16gb ram and it BARELY makes it with the same settings for OBS. I have to turn it down and also turn off everything else while I run the program.
      Pretty sure 24gb will work. Personally, I would get a 32gb ram BUT that's just me lol.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      I do. I think for that that configuration is all you would need.

  • @craut1809
    @craut1809 2 дні тому

    You are so fast and so crisp in your initial review of Mac mini.
    Thanks!
    Now a problem: whether I should go with IMac with 24 GB RAM or Mac mini pro with 24 GB RAM for my photo editing purpose ( Light room classic).
    Of course Mac Mini option is costly. But what should be the way ahead if I want to insulate myself for at least 5-7 years.
    Your expert opinion is solicited.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Thank you. The question is do you have high quality color accurate monitor. The iMac comes with that so that would be key factor. Otherwise you may need to spend another 1k.

  • @jckv.digital
    @jckv.digital 2 дні тому

    I am looking to trade in my Late 2019 Macbook Pro 16' 32gb and 1TB for the Mac Mini M4 24gb and 512gb. Will this be better than this laptop? I cant even get the apple intelligence on this computer at all.

  • @Desert679
    @Desert679 2 дні тому

    Mac mini M4 Pro, for a person doing simple video editing (GoPro) which is desirable. Increase the memory from 24GB to 48GB or increase the CPU/GPU cores?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      I mean 24 GB and base cores will be fine for GoPro editing. If you need to pick something I would do ram

    • @Desert679
      @Desert679 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel Thanks

    • @ronnieruizv
      @ronnieruizv 2 дні тому +1

      I decided to do the same on the pro I just ordered: left the cores at base but upped my memory to 48gb.

  • @Ruben-to6qu
    @Ruben-to6qu 2 дні тому

    Whats your mouse and keyboard set up?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      I use a Mac keyboard and about 10 different mice since I review tech

  • @bobmetzger51
    @bobmetzger51 2 дні тому +3

    Would have liked the headphone / speaker jack on the back. I can live with it though. Preordered the M4 Pro mini today.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      Why it's way harder to plug in

    • @GojoBoiAlt1
      @GojoBoiAlt1 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@craigneidel I'm not sure about this comment. If the plug is in the back, it can be more difficult to access. Also, if you want to hide the wire from your headphones, consider using Bluetooth ones.

    • @whitepixels
      @whitepixels 2 дні тому +2

      I would rather they gave us a microphone input rather than a headphone jack... I mean, most good headphones are BT, not to mention most consumers prefer earpods anyway that are BT. But a good studio microphone is best plugged in. :)

    • @paynetalent
      @paynetalent День тому

      @@whitepixelsI agree 👍

  • @marcelosanchez5667
    @marcelosanchez5667 2 дні тому +1

    I would make an immediate purchase if Apple allowed me to use my 2017 5K iMac as an external monitor…

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Well isn't going to happen but I did a video on using a m1 iMac as display.

  • @The_Cali_Dude_88
    @The_Cali_Dude_88 2 дні тому +3

    Yea! Got the M4 Pro coming soon❤

  • @jbssfl
    @jbssfl 2 дні тому

    What’s the cheapest way to get some usb-a ports for this?

    • @Luigi2381
      @Luigi2381 День тому

      USB A to usb C adapter. 2 pack for $9 on Amazon

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      5 buck adapter

  • @cap2574
    @cap2574 2 дні тому +10

    To be honest.... I have never used the SD card reader.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      I do for video editing out of Sony camera but if I didn't do that I wouldn't care.

    • @manoharmeka999
      @manoharmeka999 2 дні тому

      You never used WiFi 7 or Bluetooth 5.4. So Apple thinks not needed.

    • @kjltube
      @kjltube День тому +1

      my camera uses CFexpress these days... I'm fine with the slot being missing

  • @mereditp
    @mereditp 12 годин тому

    what is that orange enclosure?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      Search my channel for rugged enclosure

  • @marvinisrael1671
    @marvinisrael1671 День тому

    I have an 18 yr old, very large (18"Hx21"Lx9"W), custom built desktop PC which I keep on the floor next to my desk. Officially, it won't run Windows 11, so before October 2025, I would need to change the mother board, and processor, and, since I still do some Photoshop, the graphics card. I have an Apple Ultra 2 watch and an iPhone 11 pro max which I'll trade in for an iPhone 17 Pro next year. I'm tempted buy this Mini just for the space saving, and maybe for the integration with my other Apple devices, but all my peripherals except for a two disc SATA connected by Thunderbolt plug into USB A. That includes the mouse, the manual full sized keyboard, the sound system, the webcam, the laser printer. And my NEC monitor uses display port.
    I'm almost 87 years old and I wonder if I'm just asking for trouble by transitioning to an Apple computer. It would involve transferring thousands of Word and pdf files and thousands of photos.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Just get a few USB a to usc c adaptors and you will be fine. It will be a fun project.

  • @toddbornholtz6758
    @toddbornholtz6758 2 дні тому +7

    Looks great! This will be my first Mac! Was hoping for WiFi 7 and 8K 120 but I’ll live. lol

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      It will be great

    • @alastairleith8612
      @alastairleith8612 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel TB5 leaves possibility of a update for 8K 120 Hz, no? it can drive 3x 4K 120 Hz or 3x 6K 60 Hz think…

    • @JonSands
      @JonSands 2 дні тому

      @@alastairleith8612What about 2 5K @ 120hz? I’m thinking Apple could refresh the Studio display with promotion (and local dimming etc)

    • @jansix4287
      @jansix4287 2 дні тому

      You don’t have an 8K monitor anyway. 🤷

  • @fathulyusof
    @fathulyusof 2 дні тому

    Will M4 Pro with 24GB memory and 1TB storage be enough for content creator?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      I would say yes for sure. I guess it depends if you shot in 6k or something crazy but 4k should be fine.

    • @ZeerakImran
      @ZeerakImran 2 дні тому +1

      Yes. Unless you’re working for Hollywood.

    • @digitalmarketinghumans
      @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому

      I know some people who work for High End Production Houses for Hollywood.
      A lot of them surprisingly still use Intel Mac Pros but when I say they are maxed out to the brim, it's wild.
      I think I saw a reddit post where one person who worked at Disney has a Mac Pro where it is customized with having four W6800 GPUs.
      The normal or ones you can previously get can only get up to two or duo W6700 gpus.
      Of course they also use PCs too.

  • @tundrarat
    @tundrarat День тому

    I’m a photographer and never use SD cards, haven’t used them for years. Most pro-level cameras have CFexpress cards. So SD slots have always been a waste for me. I’d rather it be another USB-C port.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Yes but most users don't use that port so apple won't install it. They want to cover majority of users

  • @Peepaw1234
    @Peepaw1234 2 дні тому

    This will be my last computer (i hope), so went a little crazy with M4Pro, 48gb ram, and 10gb ethernet, and 1tb SSD. I'm going to add a couple of external SSDs for transporting files and a large SATA drive for backups. My 2014 is super slow and might turn it into a music server. I'm thinking of a BenQ 32 4K and a new Magic mouse to complete it. Thank you for all the great advice and videos.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      That is a nice setup for sure. 48 GB will be so nice to work with

  • @Perospero.2
    @Perospero.2 2 дні тому

    Really hate deciding between Mac mini or the iMac. The Mac mini is just such a great deal it’s hard not to get it.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Yes this year they are great systems.

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 2 дні тому +2

    Because of 16gb finally a decade later all apple silicon minis have instantly lost $200 or more in resale value.
    The memory limit is terrible as is $20 for ,8gb
    256 mb for an extra $200
    768 mb for an extra $400
    These are insane prices with much faster ssds at 4096mb.
    Needs 2 usba ports no one asked for the change to all USBC.
    Nevertheless the 16gb ran makes it a good deal for macs as many PCs move to 32gb base or less than $100 upcharge because of ai with upgradeable ssds sometimes that would be $400 extra in macs

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Yes older Macs should now lose some value.

  • @sfperalta
    @sfperalta 2 дні тому

    It seems that the Nbase-T (2.5, 5, or 10 Gbps) now costs an extra $100. If I'm not mistaken, the 2018 and 2020 minis both supported Nbase-T out of the box, so it's a bit of a downgrade from what I can tell. Most people won't notice, but if you harbor dreams of running 2.5 Gbps Ethernet in your home office, it's something to consider.

  • @smgumbycat
    @smgumbycat 2 дні тому +1

    Mac mini M4 Pro is a home run! Very close to a Mac Studio. 24 Gb of unified ram! Thunderbolt 5!

  • @anon1div0
    @anon1div0 День тому

    My concerns: Easy access to power button and its location? SSD speeds of various configurations e.g. Is 256GB SSD still slower than 512GB+ SSDs? Power consumption and heat output e.g. Placing the PSU inside a very small case must increases heat and fan noise. Would have been better to use an external PSU and place the power button on one of the sides. Apple prioritises design over functionality.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      I almost never turn any desktop Mac off so the power button doesn't bother me too much

  • @erickbeaudry
    @erickbeaudry 2 дні тому

    Thanks for the overview Craig. Very happy with this mini, been waiting for a while to replace my 27 inch iMac and this is great, love the number of ports on the base M4 and it the price comes out lower by 250CAD. I have a hub so I can still plug in my old printer/scanner. Still debating going with a studio display or LG 40 inch 5k2k. Will probably depend on the price of the monitor when I am ready to buy. For me long term, this is better value and cheaper than going with another iMac.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Thanks. Yes I can't wait forever on the iMac so may need to do the same thing.

  • @d.rabbitwhite
    @d.rabbitwhite 2 дні тому

    Base cost in Canada is 200 bucks more, across the board. For me, perfect would be making them upgradable, and being able to use the imac as a display.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah Canada is always much more for some reason. Upgradable would be nice.

  • @RichardServello
    @RichardServello 2 дні тому +1

    I’m doing a sidegrade from my M2 Pro. I don’t need the extra GPU power. I have a powerful desktop. My Mac is for everything else. I wanted the smaller footprint and the only reason I bought the M2 Pro was because the M2 wasn’t compatible with my 120hz display. Now that the M4 does up to 240hz I see no need for a pro.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yes it sounds like you know what you need to do now.

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 2 дні тому +2

    Like the PC side tb5 on these need to allow external GPU.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Pipe dream but would be nice for sure

  • @Youtubeuseritis
    @Youtubeuseritis 2 дні тому

    Hope there is no thermal issue - not sure what was the need to make it smaller

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Good fan inside so I'm guessing it should be good

    • @ArthropodSpidey
      @ArthropodSpidey 2 дні тому

      chip is more efficient. PC problems don't translate to Mac.

    • @Youtubeuseritis
      @Youtubeuseritis День тому

      @ I have the Mac mini m1 and it does get hot when pushed. Principal of physics apply to Apple as well.

  • @rorywalters1614
    @rorywalters1614 2 дні тому

    This is great! Finally I don’t have to go for the Pro version to get more USBC ports. I might get back into video editing again. For the M2 mini, the normal M2 chip with 24GB RAM would’ve been more than enough for me, but it only got two thunderbolt ports which was very limiting. My monitor support USBC single connection(keyboard, mouse and web cam could be connected to the monitor and will be passed to the computer when using the USBC connection), and I’ll need another thunderbolt port for an external boot drive, and both ports would be occupied. If I opt for good thunderbolt dock to add more USBC ports, that’s also quite a bit of money, it’s better to step up for an M2 Pro mini with 32GB RAM. But now, problem solved!

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      It's a great new Mac. Time to buy one and join the club. We will all be getting one.

  • @alfredoistic
    @alfredoistic 2 дні тому

    I don’t really know much about computers, but I’m feeling pretty discouraged. I just purchased a Mac Studio with the M2 Max last month, and now there’s a Mac Mini with the M4 chip that’s so much cheaper. Did I make a bad choice? Is my Mac Studio still worth what I paid?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      The studio and Max chip are great too but it depends what you are doing with the computer.

    • @PawFromTheBroons
      @PawFromTheBroons 2 дні тому

      Buying anything Apple, in the weeks leading to new hardware announcement is really asking for a frustrating experience.

  • @brothermunkdrums
    @brothermunkdrums 2 дні тому

    I would never look to a Mac Pro now, the m4 pro looking at specs is comparable or higher then the M2 Ultra. This machine is very attractive and I have an M1 Max Mac Studio

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому +1

      Yes this Mac mini does make it a bit confusing on what's the best Mac to get

  • @diotitus
    @diotitus 2 дні тому

    Hopefully the release of the M4 Mac Mini will make the previous M2 and M2 Pro Mac Minis drop in price considerably in the secondary used and refurbished market.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      For sure. The 16 GB has to make that happen

  • @PhillProbst
    @PhillProbst День тому

    The 256 base storage is a bigger flaw than lack of SD card slot, as is the fact that the power button is at a REAR (👎) corner rather than at the front, where it would have been more accessible. 😕

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      How often do you turn off a desktop Mac? Just put into sleep. But SSD does suck.

    • @PhillProbst
      @PhillProbst День тому

      @ I turn it on to use for a zoom session about once every 2 weeks. About 99% of my computing is done on my iPad Air. Your milage may vary. 😉

  • @weholmes5315
    @weholmes5315 2 дні тому

    This is the one I've been waiting for! It's finally time to upgrade my 2014 Mac Mini. I'm going for the 16/512. It's all the computer I could ever want!😅

  • @cameraman655
    @cameraman655 2 дні тому

    After several years of misses in the Mac space, they finally hit a homer with this. My M1 Mac Mini has done a Yeoman’s work but it is showing its age, this just might be my next Mac purchase. However, unlike the first M1 Mac Mini, I intend to spec this one up just a bit (couldn't do that with the original M1, specifically the SSD, 512 GB was all you could order on the 2020 model at the time), with a 1TB SSD and 24 GB of RAM.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      It will be a great new upgrade for you. I think I may get one around that spec too.

    • @ArthropodSpidey
      @ArthropodSpidey 2 дні тому

      Several years? They've had homeruns for a while now. Did you just get released from prison?

    • @cameraman655
      @cameraman655 День тому

      @ Well, firstly, I am on a “work release”, so yeah…Secondly, I have been on the Mac platform going back to 1990, how long have you been on the Mac? Thirdly, it is an opinion, the Macs over the past 3-4 years have been lackluster…again, my opinion, something that I am still allowed to have (though that might change after Nov 5th, if a certain Californian is elected…🤢🤯). Yeah, I stand by my comments unreservedly.

  • @PenandInk2012
    @PenandInk2012 2 дні тому +1

    This one is coming for me soon. This is what I have been waiting for! Going to trade in my M2 Mac Mini!

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Nice. They are looking great so far

  • @ivanbogdaue
    @ivanbogdaue 2 дні тому

    Great time to buy M2 Mac Mini. I like older size more.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      All Macs should drop in price due to 16 gb base ram now

  • @v3rlon
    @v3rlon 2 дні тому

    Don't need the SD card as bad as I need an XDD. I guess the best compromise would be another USB C.
    A slot for an extra NVME drive would be nice. Lock in the main drive, but give us the option of adding one. Pipe dream, yes, but it would be nice.

  • @Nessie-mf3xg
    @Nessie-mf3xg День тому

    1 or 2x USB-A would be nice, but not essential. Practically everything is USB-C now.

  • @TalesOfWar
    @TalesOfWar 2 дні тому

    This is now on my "things to buy before Christmas eats up all my savings" list haha! I'm currently looking at new monitors to pair with it, though I can just "borrow" my second UltraSharp from my PC set up in the mean time if need be. Asus apparently have a new 5K (proper 5K, not these ultrawide 1440p things) ProArt on the way "soon". It's actually supposed to drop round about now, according to rumours.
    I'm hovering over the Pro model with the upgraded CPU and 48GB of RAM. I can just use the Thunderbolt ports for more storage. All my big files are on external drives anyway in RAID1, like my iTunes media library.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      That will be a nice setup. BenQ has a 5k coming soon also. Will come down to price or just get studio display. Thanks for watching.

  • @horsthotzenplotz3321
    @horsthotzenplotz3321 День тому

    Problem is the price of RAM. I don’t care for internal SSD size, don’t use it at all, as I always use a 4TB external SSD anyways.

  • @TechGuyZone
    @TechGuyZone День тому

    The mac mini is a great computer. Unfortunately the imac they got wrong. No 27inch, no pro etc.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      iMac is for a different audience in apples eyes.

  • @danieleppelsheimer9273
    @danieleppelsheimer9273 2 дні тому +1

    Very good point about the SD Card slot. I am sure someone will offer a simple cable-less push in adapter for a SD Card.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah they have those already but it would have been nice

  • @thatampguy
    @thatampguy 2 дні тому

    I was looking at a M2 Mac Studio but why at this point? The new mini is perfect -tons of memory tons of storage what’s not to love?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Yeah this could hurt studio for sure

    • @thatampguy
      @thatampguy 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidelmakes me wonder what’s up their sleeve on that one 😂

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      @@thatampguy they need to go big on that now. But may be $42000 now too

  • @bstevens9831
    @bstevens9831 2 дні тому

    Like the 64 GB Ram and larger storage options on the Pro. SD card slot would be okay but not a deal breaker. Since Apple hasn't delivered a 32" iMac with an M4 Max, I'm waiting for the M4 Max Mac Studio because I need lots of power. Gotta remember Apple keeps adding new software to slow down their machines so they can sell more hardware. I want to get ahead of this with a Mac Studio Max. Thanks for the videos Craig!

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Thanks for watching. Just curious what you do that requires that much power ..

    • @bstevens9831
      @bstevens9831 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel I'm a developer with some HUGE projects and testing needs ( multiple parallel tests running under Xcode for starters). It's not just Xcode but bunches of tools and web pages( all open and running ) for reference during coding. Some of the testers ( like Max Tech etc. ) include Xcode builds but those are relatively simple and the volume of code vastly smaller than what I deal with everyday. Plus Xcode itself is a behemoth and takes a while just to launch with a small project even on an M2 Pro Mini ( and it gets bigger and more complex with every release ). Think of load time being almost a magnitude of a simple project launch and its close my loading timeframe. Waiting for the computer impacts schedules and potentially income. Spending extra to have a Mac Studio with a Max/Ultra is definitely worth it for me. You're right that most don't need this kind of power. Thanks again for sticking with the videos.

  • @jamescarlson486
    @jamescarlson486 2 дні тому

    Yes the Mac Mini pro with a BenQ 32 inch 4K or the 5K 27 inch . Add a Blue Ant SoundBlade. Sick!

  • @Dorene_Oster
    @Dorene_Oster День тому

    I was hoping for the space gray version of the Mac mini

  • @dantech9435
    @dantech9435 2 дні тому

    I think it’s fine without the sd card slot. We’re asking too much for its category. You can add a dongle anytime. ;0

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yes but I just thought it would have been nice. The 256 GB is more of the issue.

  • @ArthropodSpidey
    @ArthropodSpidey День тому

    I think my M2 Pro mac mini is going to last me a couple of years, but I'm definitely going to upgrade to the M6 Pro mac mini because I love this new design. It sucks that I can now fit the new mac mini into a backpack, but not my Studio Display 😂😂

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  День тому

      Yes it should last you a while. Yeah can't fit that studio display in a backpack.. funny thanks for watching

    • @ArthropodSpidey
      @ArthropodSpidey День тому

      @craigneidel Thanks for the great video, Craig. Cheers.

  • @DanEmmons
    @DanEmmons 2 дні тому +1

    Dude. This thing probably also works with my iVanky dock!

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      Yeah, but that dock costs almost as much as the Mac mini - funny.

    • @DanEmmons
      @DanEmmons 2 дні тому +1

      @@craigneidel hey, it works great for my MacBook Pro M2 Max 💻 -- it turned it into my full blown trading station with 4 displays

    • @sauleomarova7730
      @sauleomarova7730 2 дні тому

      " iVanky dock" ... I wonder what the company owner thought of when naming the product as such...
      After all Schiit Audio is very popular among the audiophile types...

  • @harmfulifconsumed
    @harmfulifconsumed День тому

    $200 for 256 GB of storage is 33% of the cost of the computer. Crazy.

  • @WhatIThink45
    @WhatIThink45 2 дні тому

    Wow, didn’t know the Mac Monitor is now $1300. I’m beginning to think that I might not a 27” monitor since I use two monitors anyway, and I seldom open two windows side-by-side 27” iMac.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yes the studio display was down to 1249 a little while ago but went back up.

    • @WhatIThink45
      @WhatIThink45 2 дні тому

      @ , do you think it’s worth getting, or would a cheaper 3rd party monitor suffice?

  • @jaredl123
    @jaredl123 2 дні тому

    Is anyone else bothered that they still use a HDMI port, which I've had nothing but trouble with on my current Mac Mini. It became such an issue that I just use the thunderbolt ports, and that resolved any Sleep/Wake issues I had with HDMI. Why not just have a video only USB-C style port that can be adapted to DP, HDMI, or just used directly with their monitor??

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      That's not a bad idea

    • @jaredl123
      @jaredl123 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel Have you had issues with HDMI and sleep/wake? I've had them on every Mac I've ever had. It's sad that I have a video port, but just leave it empty cause the USB-C to display port or just straight USB-C connection is much more reliable!. Even the USB-C to HDMI is more reliable for me then the HDMI port!

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 дні тому +1

      That's an HDMI problem. Not all HDMI devices are made equal. A lot of people will use these hooked up to TV's in meeting rooms etc, and given it's size you can easily throw it in as bag and take it travelling and plug it into a hotel TV or something.

    • @jaredl123
      @jaredl123 2 дні тому

      @@TalesOfWar I figured that after all my issues, so why not just replace the HDMI port with a USB-C port that can be adapted to any connection?

    • @denisleblanc4506
      @denisleblanc4506 2 дні тому +1

      I have a late 2012 base mini and a M2 Pro Mini that each use HDMI to connect to the monitors and never had Sleep Wake issues. First I've heard of this. Could it be a cable issue?

  • @Allinfun6789
    @Allinfun6789 13 годин тому

    Wait, the Thunderbolt 5 is only on the 'Pro" model. Things change so, you should get at least 24 gigs of RAM. Never get the small hard drive at least get 1GIG or you WILL be sorry...is what I think!!! So..$1500 if you want it to last. IMO.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      Everybody's different so I guess it depends. Good news is the will have great resale values of you ever change your mind.

  • @Peter-df1br
    @Peter-df1br 2 дні тому

    I am used to using external speakers plugged into the 3.5mm connection on my iMac. I really wish the M4 Mini had the jack in the back as well.

    • @hazzelnuts
      @hazzelnuts 2 дні тому +1

      if you want clean setup, you need jack to usb c adapter or just bought digital audio converter

    • @Peter-df1br
      @Peter-df1br 2 дні тому

      @@hazzelnuts Thanks! Never occurred to me to use an adapter. Been spoiled using my 2020 iMac 27". I'm used to a clean look!

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 дні тому

      If the monitor you're using has an audio pass through (most do) you could just do that too rather than plug it directly into the mini.

    • @Peter-df1br
      @Peter-df1br 2 дні тому

      @@TalesOfWar Thx

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Front is good for me but I could see both sides

  • @sauleomarova7730
    @sauleomarova7730 2 дні тому +6

    Mac mini sounds like a superb little box!. Especially for those of us who need to implement multiple screens for real-time data stream, this box seems perfect. I'll wait for users' feedback, but I am very tempted to get that Pro version with additional memory.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +1

      Yeah I need to decide if I go with pro or standard version.

    • @alastairleith8612
      @alastairleith8612 2 дні тому +1

      yeah and the M4 Mini Pro memory runs at double the bandwidth as the M4 mini… and remarkably (or not if you understand Apples predatory pricing model) the upgrade price for the mini Pro RAM is $12.5/GB upgrading 24→ 48 GB and $16.8/GB upgrading 48→64 GB whereas on th M4 minis the RAM is $25/GB for each upgrade step. To double the speed at half the price, go figure!

  • @Locd_Daria
    @Locd_Daria 2 дні тому +2

    this makes up for the imac presentation

  • @prsearls
    @prsearls 2 дні тому

    This is very tempting. It probably has all the power I need for photo editing. I'd probably upgrade the M4 Pro to the larger core CPU and GPU. You'll need to start reviewing Thunderbolt 5 external enclosures for this baby. Thanks for your comments and opinion.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah now I do need to test a few thunderbolt enclosures out of I can find any.

  • @SFGiantsBweezy
    @SFGiantsBweezy 2 дні тому

    What’s the name of that Mac mini song at the beginning of that video?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      It's called ai

    • @SFGiantsBweezy
      @SFGiantsBweezy 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel
      How did you do it with AI? Did you use a special software? And is it a whole song? That’s an awesome intro song 🎶 for the Mac mini.
      I’m also a big and long time subscriber to your channel!

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 2 дні тому +1

    Throttling may occur with the internal power supply which also makes respair tricky.

  • @Jingles8302
    @Jingles8302 2 дні тому +2

    (Me looking at my M2 Mac Mini with 512GB SSD and 8GB Ram) Bye Bye buddy! lol

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому +2

      Time to upgrade

    • @Jingles8302
      @Jingles8302 2 дні тому +1

      @@craigneidel Right...but i just got it last year...... in Dec. so not even a year..... Trying to justify it lol

  • @InimitaPaul
    @InimitaPaul 2 дні тому

    Upgrading from the 2014 Mac mini, I think it’ll be a decent upgrade. 😂 I’ll see what Apple has to offer in another 10 years.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      I think it will be a massive upgrade

    • @digitalmarketinghumans
      @digitalmarketinghumans 2 дні тому

      You're going to be flying into outter space lol. That is a HUGE upgrade. Like going from Basic Nintendo graphics to jumping to PS4 graphics or something lol.

  • @robertlisenko2962
    @robertlisenko2962 15 годин тому

    Haven’t used an SD reader since W was president, not everybody’s a content creator, most people don’t care

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  5 годин тому

      Yes but the storage is the other thing. But I still love it and I'm getting one

  • @MrShalvayez
    @MrShalvayez 2 дні тому

    Not a big fan of the location of the power button, but thinking about it, better on the bottom, particularly if one has cats.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah how often do you turn it off

    • @ZeerakImran
      @ZeerakImran 2 дні тому

      Love this new location.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 дні тому

      The last time I turned either of my Macs off was when I was out of town on holiday, otherwise they just get put to sleep. Everyones use case is different of course. I imagine they placed it there as I can see a lot of people mounting these to the back of monitors. It's the perfect spot in that scenario.

    • @keithmeredith7522
      @keithmeredith7522 День тому

      Cats??

    • @MrShalvayez
      @MrShalvayez 19 годин тому

      @@keithmeredith7522 Cats will walk across anything.

  • @DavidRamirez-vc8dr
    @DavidRamirez-vc8dr 2 дні тому

    Magnetic charger like iMac would’ve been sweet

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah but you don't move it around so no biggie.

  • @RickRijuanaPro
    @RickRijuanaPro День тому

    About to trade my Air to buy one

  • @OverlandUncharted
    @OverlandUncharted 2 дні тому

    Now someone needs to come out with a thunderbolts 5 enclosure! 🤯

  • @Fred_the_Head
    @Fred_the_Head 2 дні тому

    I guess the next iteration will have a MagSafe power connection.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      Yeah but you don't move around so not a huge miss.

  • @NealDannenberg
    @NealDannenberg 2 дні тому

    Nice, but should have WiFi 7 and 32gb of RAM on Pro model.

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      I'm not sure who would benefit from wifi right now. I read that like 1 percent of people have routers to handle that

    • @NealDannenberg
      @NealDannenberg 2 дні тому

      @@craigneidel True, but that won’t be the case in a couple of years. All the new cell phones have it and I’m sure the new MacBook Pro’s will have it. You need to future proof hardware that you will have for years.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 2 дні тому

      WiFi 7 hasn't been fully finalised yet. While you see other devices with it, it's not technically official. Apple tend to support finalised specs rather than a draft standard.

    • @NealDannenberg
      @NealDannenberg 2 дні тому

      It will be ready years before you would get a new PC, so why wouldn’t you want to be prepared for it?

  • @hanleyleung
    @hanleyleung 2 дні тому

    kills my m1 mx Mac Studio :D

  • @ShanerTheGrey
    @ShanerTheGrey День тому

    The ai song again HAHAHAH 😂😂😂

  • @ImGeraldBurns
    @ImGeraldBurns 2 дні тому

    Now we wait to see if it thermal throttles..

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      It's got some good fans in there

  • @ljknbrw
    @ljknbrw 2 дні тому

    Why does apple hate matte black?

    • @craigneidel
      @craigneidel  2 дні тому

      It's hard with aluminum to create it