Why Fujimoto Needed To Replace Denji
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2023
- 3 reasons Asa replaced Denji in Chainsaw Man Part 2.
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Which main character do you prefer? What would you say is the biggest difference between Parts 1 and 2? Are they actually the same?
Denji is great but I absolutely adore Asa's character. She's much easier to relate to and feels incredibly realistic as a person. Denji always felt a bit cartoonish to me, wich works well when you're introducing an audience to a new world. Starting with a relatively simple person with very simple goals is a good way to start a story.
What Asa brings is a more complex internal story with a character with less easily defineable goals.
@Af Kijkuit How is Denji being cartoonist a bad thing? Also the guy is very relatable or did you miss his entire arc?
@@zemox2534 It's not a bad thing, I explained it in my comment. Asa is generally more relateable because her struggles and traumas are a lot more recognizeable. The point of Denji's character is that he starts out barely human, he's basically a dog chasing after the most basic desires because he had literally nothing. His arc is him growing and learning to be human by exploring what he really wants of his life. It's a very interesting and engaging story but it isn't really meant to be that relateable. It's an exploration of what would happen if someone had to learn to be human. If Denji was less cartoonish and simple in part 1 this would not work as well.
Asa doesn't start at rock bottom, she had parents, later a pet and a relatively normal life. But she got everything taken away from her. Slowly losing everything you have is a lot more relateable than starting with nothing and then slowly being built up. We don't really know what her arcs will really be since we're only like 25 chapters in, but so far her character is far more complicated than Denji was ~25 chapters in.
Beautiful
IMO not keeping Denji as the MC was one of the biggest mistakes Fujimoto ever did in CSM. Asa simply is not even close to as good a character as Denji ever will be. I really could care less for her.. I care more about characters like Himeno, who were in the manga for one volume..
Fujimoto: "Nah dude, I just felt like drawing a schoogirl".
Real
Fr, this could just be CSM's shoujo arc
what a geek
probably
More like “the voices in my head told me” knowing him
I think the story will become both Denji's and Asa's. Denji has a lot of stuff to do still, from finding the resurrected blood devil to raising Nayuta. But in order for it to be both their stories, Fujimoto needs to give Asa breathing room so Denji doesn't overshadow her. I think that is why we've been focused on Asa so heavily in part 2, but I think eventually they'll meet in the middle and grow together if that makes sense.
Denji Asa Nayuta team up?!?!?
I like to think of CSM's eventual goal is to tell Denji's entire life. Part 1 would be his childhood living under the thumb of an abusive "parent". Part 2 is his teenage school years where he actually gets to explore a rose colored romance.
@@sonlaxx looking like they gonna have to at this point. If the devil of war whose whole thing is battle is actively trying to run away we gone need a team for this one
this ^^
@@plushiepenguin I doubt they would cover his whole life. He dosent age too.
I feel like the biggest change is that Part 2 feels alot more darker. Part 1 felt like a dark comedy and Part 2 feels like a dark story first and comedy second (with most comedy actually coming from Denji himself). Asa views the world in a more depressing way and it's reflected on the overall tone.
I wouldn’t say more depressing. I’d say more real. Real in the sense the an average person would experience this world.
Bro, after that stunt with the cat?
And how a LITERAL primal fear devil showed up and decided to throw hands with humanity? We are in advanced darkness.
part one is hella dark too like the amount of deaths and sob stories in the first one u can’t just ignore it. I think one isn’t more depressing than the other. it’s more deadpan humour with asa as she isn’t as goofy as denji and power. I still think chainsaw man was always ALWAYS stories or characters first than comedy for both the parts
@@ShonenOujiimagine how depressing the real world now that it now can be compared with the chainsawman world 😩😩 are we even in somebody fiction with how depressing everything is?
Part 2 is as depressed and lonely as Asa
I believe Denji got semi-retired because, at this point, there should be only four devils on Earth willing and able to give him a run for his money. Out of those, however, one's the adopted little sister who loves him, and another got so badly munched on by Pochita back in Hell that a freshly resurrected Denji could've killed her.
Bro forgot about primal devils
@@cameronzimermann9883 Bro actually said “on Earth”
@@justpharaoh8602 falling devil
@@cheeseboiboi1767 well Falling Death is now the 5th one added due of her unknowingly managed to get into earth
She prob died in hell
Actually I feel like Fujimoto is using Asa's perspective to put some of Denji's flaws more to the forefront, specifically the ones Denji doesn't realize, the ones relating more to him as Chainsaw Man than as Denji
I personally think we're going to see Denji have an arc more related to responsibility with his strength, his ethics, and him learning to become a hero for less selfish reasons
I partially think that due to how, so far, whenever we see Denji go Chainsaw, he's not really portrayed as a hero, if anything he's almost portrayed like a monster, whether it being how Fujimoto displays the casualties from Denji choosing to save a cat over the student and group of elders, him being more focused on getting with a girl when fighting Justice Devil Yuko, and the panel where he kills Yuko, where we only see his shadow and a decapitated and confused Yuko who has been killed by her idol, which is honestly kinda scary
I think by showing us Asa's perspective, the perspective of someone who doesn't like Chainsaw Man, those flaws of Denji's are brought more to the forefront
Oh and I forgot to mention, there's still 2 glaring problems that has gone unresolved relating to his arc in part 1, and those are his emotional dependence, and him not understanding love
Like Denji is still mentally effected by Makima's manipulation, since she caused him to become emotional dependent on her, since she made sure to always be the person who helps Denji feel happier, so that he replied on her, allowing her to break him when she took everything else away and reveal her true feelings
In part 2, that empty hole Makima left him really seems to be his motivation, since now it seems that he's not really happy, and he needs attention to feel better, whether that be his screaming fans as Chainsaw, or the idea of a girlfriend to comfort him and spend time with, and the idea of being without either would just leave him in a depressive state to the point of quitting
And when it comes to love, I think this is an arc he shares with Asa, cuz they both thought they liked each other and were possibly in love after the short time they spent at the aquarium, but in reality neither of them understand the idea of it
I'd argue that there has only been one women in the series so far that we know without a doubt Denji loved in some way, and while it might sound weird to some people I'd say it's Power, because she's one of the only people who's deaths caused Denji to cry, the others off the top of my head being Aki and Pochita who Denji also loved, and I think the scenes where Denji bathed with Power and drank he blood actually lend to this, because with those he said it didn't feel naughty, which I think can be interpreted as Denji not feeling that what he was doing with her was wrong, and on top of this, his contract with Power is what gave him the motivation to get back up, because he didn't want to live anymore because of Power's death
The other women that he felt attraction to in part 1 were usually him being horny and/or being manipulated (Reze is a weird case where she falls under both, but also neither cuz he seemed to like spending time with her), and with Asa he didn't get to form a strong enough connection to her, and he seemed to be more into the idea of her than anything
And Asa doesn't understand love in the slightest, since she acts like she thinks any male who talks to her and agrees with her for more than 3 seconds has a crush on her
So I think that part 2 will probably be a dual arc following both of them dealing with a similar struggle and possibly falling for each other for real before being confronted with the fact that they might have to fight to the death because of the demons that live inside themselves (literally)
The creature that killed Yuko wasn’t Denji as he’s shown sleeping a few panels right before that scene. This is also apparent in the creature itself as Denji has a leaner body build, meanwhile the creature’s arm that we got to see was noticably burlier.
My personal theory is that it might be Pochita’s discarded body. Remember when he got shot into orbit? He launched his heart back to earth, but his old body was just left there. Perhaps someone managed to retrieve it and is using it as a puppet.
@@satriosukarji1777 Could also be a new Devil entirely taking the form of Chainsaw Man. When it’s Fujimoto writing anything is possible.
@@giornogiovanna8476 finally! someone who understands!
your insights, sums and opinion's are spot on!
just like what am thinking about and how's Denji's daily life works, i mean just looking at his facial expressions, dude's having it hard stll 😭🙏
POOR DENJI :(
I feel like the switch to Asa was a great move because Asa is far more relatable character compared to denji. Yes few aspects of denjis life and personality was relatable however for the most part, Asa is far more realistic, and relatable. and seeing the world of chainsaw man from her perspective gives the world far more depth.
Realism is overrated dude. Also, it is a stretch when you consider the world Asa is in.
Denji felt more relatable to me tbh
@@zemox2534 I referred to the character
I disagree they're both relatable in different ways
Denji has a disturbing life and background, asa has a life that you can project and relate because it's something that many people have already gone through
Honestly I would say we do follow Denji just not the way we think, since the one we followed in the main story was chainsaw man not the person but the devil and since denji is now a side character in someone else’s personal story, he can be there for aca as pochita was there for him but that’s just my opinion on how i view this.🤔🐱
For sure. We still follow Denji and he’s still a big part of the story, but he’s definitely not the main focus and it shows.
Fujumoto needed a new main character as the part 2's story is radical different than the first part and denji won't fit in the new story
I still think he would fit as the main character, but you’d have to give him a new arc. That would change him from how he is now, which in all honesty I don’t think I’d like.
@@ShonenOuji *denji gets some bitches arc*
And they don’t die this time
@@ShonenOuji IDK what the biased community says... they defend Asa because she is a hot female, but she would have worked better as a deuterogist, not keeping Denji as the MC is a big mistake IMO.
He will fit in the story, it’s literally called Chainsawman. I just think the story is going to build up to him being important again.
Honestly it comes off as a weird Duo protagonist setup. Denji's story still has a bit to go, he always wanted a intimate relationship but instead has been effectively... stuck. He has to take care of Nayuta and being a student and we see shown in the story that he only really does Chainsaw Man things to get recognition and develop relationships. Along comes Asa, a misanthropic character whos personality is a weird mirroring of Denji. A lot of what she wants to be is effectively what Denji is.
I'm not entirely sure where the story is going, but the entire duration of Chainsaw Man Part 2 has been Contrasting Denji and Asa. Personality's, Desires and the people who are manipulating and using them.
In the end I feel like Asa is currently the main character because shes playing catch up to our relationship with Denji, but this over all seems like a Duo protagonist story.
I can see that. Asa is definitely the focus of the story given the setup of Ch 1, but I can see how that might be shared with Denji.
The only real thing I have to say is rather than having a new storyline, it feel like we are just getting a new perspective on the ongoing story. Unlike Jojo's, which was used as the comparative, the title of the story is still Chainsawman which refers to Denji rather than a different joestars. We aren't following a new adventure so much as seeing the world through new eyes. Why that is I am uncertain at this point. If Part 1 was the rise of Denji as Chainsawman, part 2 is likely how Asa will contribute to Chainsawman's legacy/story. That's what I believe
That's how I view it too. I think Asa's purpose of the story is to compliment Denji's character in some way, while also becoming an integral part of the story, and not just a foil to his story. I'd like to see both of them become equals in terms of who gets the spotlight.
I actually like your perspective here because I don't really have any problems with the switch on the main character but more on the title of the story itself. For example, the title of jojo even tho they switch mc after each part of the series, they are still connected to each other being joestar and every character has the same jo pronouncing their names. Another example is Naruto. Imagine Naruto finising his story then Boruto takes the place as the new mc but the title is still Naruto then it wouldn't make sense and for another example, One peice can have so many different main characters without talking away the purpose of the title
@@princen632 those are some great examples. At the very least I don't think Fujimoto would have simply titled this Part 2 if he intended for this to be a new journey. He would picked a more creative title to reflect Asa.
I think so as well. Asa is like an outside perspective to observe all of the flaws and weaknesses of Denji himself, and see where he will still need to grow. I feel like, bc they are such mirrored characters, Denji and Asa will grow together as friends and come to understand both friendship and love. The fact that Asa seems to be similar to Power to Denji is a really sweet detail, and I just love Asa's character in general. She has a much stronger sense of right vs wrong compared to Denji, and actually grapples with the meaning of justice. If we see the story from Denji's pov, we would miss that exploration in the world of the manga.
We know Asa is our mc now but still we can see Denji character development progress a lot in part 2, that's how good Fujimoto is because somehow he able to manage Denji's character still related in the story so far. Just like you said literally Fujimoto only change the perspective in part 2 from Asa's pov, and imo it's so refreshing as a manga reader because I feel like we have two mc but somehow it works.
Basically denji is still the protagonist, but now he's not the mc, it's asa
@@joaofelipe749 how does that make sense to you
He did say once that he followed the advice to kill your darlings whenever stories felt stale. And as an artist I can agree, sometimes scraping concepts and rehashing it from scratch can lead to better outcomes. A new and fresh perspective was what the story needed, and it's given him more freedom to expand the world in creative ways. Plus the pros of already having a basis he can harken back to for plot purposes. Rather brilliant.
I think she parallels denji quite well, and denji's relationship with Nayuta might be better explored as a subplot to Asa's main plot. Although, I feel Asa's story due to her parallels is inherently linked with Denji's ongoing mission for love. I just think both denji and Asa are journeying to clear up their confusion and realise the difference between quantity and quality of love. Equally, i feel Asa's introspective nature is much more fitting for the high-school setting. Denji's simple nature fit the mystery of public safety, but high school definitely doesn't have that same level and because of that Asa can be more introspective.
Eh... I don't really know what to think about the whole thing. I like Asa's character, but I also really like Denji. I'm not quite so sure why Fujimoto decided to try and make things fresh by focusing on a new character instead of giving Denji a new challenge like you said. I think there is still a lot that could be done with his character. His past is still somewhat a mystery as we still don't know a lot about the specific details of what happened before he started working for the yakuza. He now is a guardian to a young girl, which should change his views about life and himself significantly. There's still an air of mystery as to what exactly pochita is (why does the chainsaw devil have the ability to erase devils/concepts from existence). Denji is more or less right back at square one since he lost everything. I'm hoping as this arc unfolds it becomes Denji and Asa's story equally. But, you can never predict what Fujimoto is going to do next. It's also hard for me to give a real solid opinion on the character switch as we are still watching this arc unfold.
I think you're right that it would be best for part 2 to be their story equally. I think the reason we've been so focused on Asa is because Fujimoto needs to give her breathing room so Denji's story doesn't overshadow hers.
I agree. I am hoping it becomes denji and asa’s story but I doubt that will happen based on the fact that Yoru wants to kill CSM. That’s what’s bothering me. + Yoshida told Asa to stay away from Denji and Nayuta told Denji to stay away from Asa. I’m slowly losing interest in the story because of this. I’d prefer if it was focused on Denji and Asa both together and not Asa and sometimes Denji here and there.
@@loidrowe7445 if you’re losing interest it’s best to drop the manga, you’re getting filtered
I feel like people don't understand that denji has just stepped aside to make room for asa, they're co- main characters, just asa is a little bit more in the light
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Chainsaw man's story is like a mountain, a steady incline where next arc outdo previous arc, until it reach the peak; Control devil arc.
Part 2 is another different mountain.
That's why some people didn't like part or asa, because they binge read and didn't have to wait for 2 years for part 2.
That’s a great point. I should really poll some friends and compare the binge experience vs the 2 year wait experience.
This is very real ! I binge read the entire thing just a month ago and it felt like the stakes just evaporated overnight, which is expected, but I can see how the shift would hit someone like a truck.
That being said, just spacing out the binge reading to give it more time to sit would already help that a ton I feel.
I binge read the manga and I absolutely love part 2. I just find the relationship between Asa and Denji to be incredibly cute. Just two weirdo who may ended up together. It's pretty much a romance story instead of action, comedy tragedy like part 1.
Yeah I honestly sped read through it which I kinda regret but i'm still enjoying part 2 and I'm glad I can read it weekly
Pov when the video is exactly 10 minutes
I just love how fujimoto developed asa's character from scratch and made her a likable character
It brings in fresh blood, and then he brought denji in, and then we have 2 developed characters in the manga, and both are interesting to follow. Add nayuta to the mix, and we got a manga that keeps us invested on it
tldr: "When one story ends, another begins."
Minecraft story mode reference (real)
He said in an interview he doesn’t want people to expect Part 2 of chainsaw man to be anything like part 1.
Denji had a clear arc across part one but definitely not complete. Still an emotionally and socially stunted kid with a lot of issues he isn't even aware of, let alone capable of solving. I think so far in part 2 Denji seems so focused on having people love him because he is Chainsaw Man, and I think part of what makes Asa an interesting perspective character is that we will see how other people view him as a person, not as the superhero devil hunter.
Respectfully I think that Denji’s character arc is very much incomplete. Fujimoto has a habit of having characters fill specific story roles despite their their personal arcs. So while Asa is now a major player and Denji isn’t always the main focus, that doesn’t mean he’s not still going through character changes and is still one of if not the main character.
Denji absolutely was not replaced. He’s one of two main characters. Neither replaced the other.
Fujimoto-"it ain't that deep bro"
I wonder if Fujimoto intends to pull an Araki and have a different central protagonist for every part.
thanks for spoiling me on jojos in a fucking chainsaw man video
In some ways I like Asa more because she feels a bit more relatable in some aspects. Denji is a fun character but I never really connected with him too much unlike with the other characters in the story.
Personally, I relate to Denji more. Part 2 Denji I mean. The feeling of being a kid and suddenly being saddled with new responsibilities.
@@mikedanielespeja6128 I was speaking from the perspective of Part 1 but yeah Part 2 Denji is a lot more relatable in that regards compared to his part 1 counterpart. I guess it’s because he now has his school life to worry about along side his devil hunting job, in addition to having to care of Nayuta as well (which I do think is a good call from Fujimoto).
I'm LITERALLY Denji.
But memes aside, it is a bit ironic as most fans of Chainsaw man/Denji tend to find Denji really relatable at least in one way or another due to how raw his character and story is as a whole. I don't put it past someone though because his backstory being a pretty harsh and contrasting one is not that common in modern times, even if its theme is about a commonality of "abandonment" and "desiring a real childhood" It doesn't click with those that probably had happier childhoods, and instead it could feel more like pity than actual relating.
That's funny cuz everyone says they relate to denji
They are both relatable its just that asa is a lot more complex than denji because denji is a big himbo
Ok good video but can I just say that I’m super sick of people saying that Denji was replaced or that there’s a new Mc?? Cuz like there literally isn’t it’s still called chainsaw man and it’s still completely about Denji… the story is just taking its time with showing us more about Asa because she is clearly going to become a far more important character to Denji in the future.. this was practically foreshadowed by how Denji likened Asa to power. I really enjoyed your video and your theory’s weren’t bad but I think the very statement that there is a new Mc is just dramatic and immature sounding
Even after all the part 2 chapters, i still feel like Fujimoto will just kill Asa in one panel just because.
I think this part is much more focused on relationships and human connection. That is something that Part 1 also touched on but it was more subtly told then and had different ways of approaching it. Part 1 showed how human connection is sought after and the ways it impacts others, while part 2 seems to approach it more from a place of healing through connection rather than it being a focus of desire. Denji and Asa both have parallels in their characters, both story wise and arc wise, but they are very distinct from one another. Its that parallel though that may allow them to connect with one another and tackle the things they couldn't alone.
I didn't watch the full video, but Asa is the most relatable female character I've ever seen. The first chapter and chapter with Nayuta(talk with Yor)have "oof, girl, same" moments
I think that because i watched stuff like Hellsing and Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans, the shift of main character didint got me hard, Asa is an interesting character, and i want to see more of her.
IBO didn't really switch main characters it just gave us a new POV character for the intro to the new season.
I like Asa as a character because she is the Denji for women. I'm not saying that she acts the same, completely oposite, but that's the point. Its a character that the female audience can relate to on the same level that (at least I from my subjective view) have related to Denji, like really, when I first read CSM I felt soo alike as Denji its insane. Trying to put myself in the shoes of a girl, I can totally see the same dinamic whit Asa and them
you're totally right lol. I couldn't relate to Denji that well, despite the fact that the story is amazing. But Asa is totally my cup of tea. How cool is it that Fujimoto can capture both perspectives so well.
i wasn’t ever huge on jojo but as a long time viewer of doctor who i understand the concept of shifting character focus (even though different gens of doctors aren’t technically different characters)
i think it helps give a fresh view at the world and doesn’t make it feel stale or like the author is pulling at threads to keep the same character at the center of everything so i’m glad it’s happening
My favorite part of the switch is the slice of life tone Part 2 has, it has less fighting which some fans don't enjoy but imo slice of life and more dramatic writing is what Fujimoto does best (considering all his film influences) and part 2 really feels like reading his famous one shots
Nearing the end of when he was explaining his second reason if denji was going back into the spotlight is a power ark try to find the reincarnation of the blood devil.
Chainsaw Man is ultimately about growing from past traumatic experiences. We're currently seeing this from Asa and we've already seen the traumatic experiences Denji goes through. If Fujimoto continues after part 2 into a new part. I could see him focusing again on the idea of trauma and growing. I doubt we'd see the new host of the blood devil, as thats not necessarily related to Asa. Fujimoto does not randomly drop a character into the spotlight if they are not related to the main story. The character adds something to the main story and this means that if the blood devil's return is to happen, it'd mean that this character would be important to Asa. Asa is the focus of chapter two. She's in the same place as Denji now, she has a target on her back. She is not safe from the her own weapon devils. Her primal fear devils will chase her down, Asa has to grow and get a sense of morales and ethics in order to truly conquer these devils.
Denji is now a deuteragonist in part two.
I can almost guarantee you mate, you're over thinking it.
You make great point, however, the way you made your point ended up more of a comparison jjba to chainsaw man rather than showing us from a plot view of chainsaw man. Denji as a character doesn't have an end really, is more of a writing choice of the author, he's still usable for many more arcs since there's not really limits for writing with the same character. It's pure choice of writing, it isn't needed or necessary for a great writing experience. And one more thing, i would love if you could make more examples rather than just using jjba as a comparison, since there's probably more animes/mangas that could make an example out of them.
2 years later and this guy still becomes a dog for women with unusual vibes
I like denji a lot still and hope they keep him
it's not really denji getting replaced, it's more of Fujimoto adding another main character to focus on, either way Asa isn't going anywhere anytime soon
More kitchen nightmare reviews! This was gold
Denji is someone born in the worst condition trying to live a normal life
Asa is someone that lived a normal life until demon's ruined it
they are both linked to the concept of "normal" but in different ways
I dont think Denji got replaced, i'd just say he added another mc and I have nothing against it. Asa's story is interesting and seeing Chainsaw Man from another perspective is pretty damn nice too
From this week's chapter it feels like Asa is the character meant to relate directly to us, she gets deep and makes us come to face those qualities in us too...as she identifies these things and grow so will her role in Denji's life somehow, bringing everything to face as I foresee Denji and Asa/Yoru teaming up against the PSB somehow
I enjoyed a lot part 1 and part 2 is just becoming as amazing the pacing hasn't changed a lot put we do have a lot more dialogue scenes with characters witch I really enjoy, with the main character I think denji not being the centre of part 2 dosen't really ruin him we do get denji in part 2 not as much put enough to show his character and asa she's an amazing character, asa' s character never tooked anything from denji in the main character role part 1 and part 2 connect with each other perfectly.
Denji reached his goals and aspirations, which is actually kinda part of his current ark. So switching to Asa and Yoru she doesn’t really have goals either, but Yoru does and pushing Yoru’s agenda is what is happening in the story as of now. Asa and Denji are two sides of a character with no purpose they both don’t have goals of there own as they both serve others (Denji says he’s saving up to send nayuta to college) it’s an interesting push and pull which keeps denji as a main focus, but not the sole character jn tbe spotlight
There are some gaps here
First of all Denji's character arc is far from complete, even in part one he only realizes one part of what it is he's supposed to mature and realize. He begins to understand that what he wanted was genuine relationships (We see this even in the early parts of the series, when he describes his perfect life to Pochita he describes relaxing and eating good food with a girl and Pochita, and playing video games with her. That's hardly a connection exclusively about sex.) but losing Aki and Power makes him shut in that desire and still focus on "wanting to have sex." He realized the other half of that, that those relationships need to be equal give and take, not barking for every woman that will treat him nicely.
Second of all, Denji isn't replaced as the main character, Asa has been getting more focus but the protagonist of our story in a literary sense is still very much Denji. Even when we ourselves aren't following him, we're still reminded that he's an inevitable part of the story being the center of it all through things like the news coverage of him.
Third of all, Denji and Asa are actively being set up to play into each other more and more, even mirroring each other's flaws and insecurities. Denji idiotically throws himself at every opportunity for sex in the hopes of developing those relationships he wants. Asa desperately pines for the validation of literally everyone around her while being too prideful and immature to admit that validation and affection are what she desires. I'm not one to say the two will end up in a relationship, I don't think they need to in order to have a strong narrative together, but they will definitely impact each other and how they go about seeking the things they actually want.
Bro, i like Asa, and her kind of character give a more relatable and identifiable character between itself and the public.Asa is represent many of average people nowadays.
but i prefer thousand times the GOAT Denji.
chainsaw man structured like jojo
this can get really interesting .
i gussie in part 3 we can fallow a devil who can join the gang
I won't lie, I dropped Chainsaw Man early in part 2 because I missed Denji, Aki, and Power. Part 2 was so different that it felt weird to continue to call the book "Chainsaw Man". But if it really explores Asa's perspective on good vs evil, that sounds enticing enough where I might continue.
Denji still gets shown a lot, and I mean Denji did promise Power that he'd search for the blood devil so maybe we'll get her back?
@@realbedo we will, it’s their contract
Nah man I only read it for my man Aki literally physically cannot read it anymore. Yeah call me petty but idc 😢
Now it's Denji, Asa and nayuta
Finally someone understands, when I said I didn't liked the new arc of CSM back in the day people would come at me angry saying "It's the same thing as the start of the manga" and no, it's not. The story, the focus and everything is different, that's why the main character has to be different. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not for me but it obviously there is a group for people who likes that new approach.
I think another reason is the same reason they did that in overlord. Denji is pretty OP which is even stated by makima, other devils etc. so rather than introduce more devils OP than him and show massive power creep this soon into the story fuji could reset it and show someone just getting a grip on their newfound power again and have the fights still interesting.
Tbh, Fujimoto took everything about Makima and flipped it on it's head to get Asa
So in essence, part 2 kinda follows the dynamic that Denji and Makima had in part 1, but from Makima's perspective if that makes sense. ( Just that in this case, Makima has no rizz )
And while this is Asa's story, Denji's still at the center of it all and we're still getting progression for him as well, so I'm just hype for whatever comes next
their both at the center lmfao
huh ?
I think this part is meant for the introduction of asa to the series... But denji still is the main protagonist because the series is named as chainsaw man who is denji... Part 2 is focussing on asa is because she may have a major role later in the story of chainsaw man.. Asa is more like a female counterpart of denji.. But yeah denji is the PROTAGONIST AND WILL BE FOREVER
Idk part 2 already has around 25 chapters and only one of those has been from Denji's perspective. The whole story so far has been set up for Asa it'd be kinda awkward to switch . And also In the physical copy of Vol 12 it lists Denji as a side character. He still has a large role in the story but I don't think it'll switch to his persepctive permanently for the remainder of this part.
I got a bit of a vibe that while one story was about figuring out that you have self worth, the other kinda feels like accepting your worth.
I hope they keep doing this and the main character becomes part of the gang over time in each progressive arc
I don’t think denji was replaced, I think it’s more like we’re starting from asa’s point of view to set her us at the second protagonist with denji later. Denji still has a lot to do and figure out so stopping for us on him is not smart in my opinion. I think he still needs to go on a journey to see what he really wants and what will make him happy, if he just kicked Denji completely out of the main character role I think that’d be a mistake. For me it’s more like setting up asa so that they can become something like a team in later parts
Chainsaw man with no Denji is like Naruto with no Naruto you can do it just not for so much of an extended period.
eh not rlly im more intrested in the horseman and all these devils who are unknown
@@adanfazbear every devil introduced since the darkness devil has been great I just feel like Denjis story still had a lot to be told when part 1 ended he still never found true happiness.
@@coleoswald8982 asas different from the other devils lmfao and it probably coralates with denji and having something to do w them finding happiness
Denji still appear a lots bruh
I feel that the switch from Denji to Asa was kind of a confusing move. Yes, it is a bit more relatable, but I feel that it just isn’t Chainsaw Man without… y’know… Chainsaw Man as the main character? I might get hate for this but it’s my opinion and I hope I’m not the only one out there that feels this way about part 2. Thank you for reading!
The story still is around Chainsawman because Yoru wants to kill him is like Death note the protagonist isnt the death note but who wants and can obtain something from it
Denji is still a major character.
I like how it seems Asa and Yoru are going to learn to get along and perhaps form a deeper emotional bond similarly to Denji and Pochita.
Yoru right now is nowhere near as strong as she used to be and is at her most vulnerable and has to rely on all the misfortune Asa feels to create powerful weapons to survive these new and old foes.
But because of this, I think she’ll definitely need Denji to stop her from spiraling into despair and have someone who can show how happy you can still be in spite of whatever circumstances she’ll face.
I hope by the end of part 2, Asa learns how to be happy with herself and doesn’t need Denji anymore or really anyone but still hangs out with people and interacts with Society.
I wonder if Denji might go through something similar and when he finds the blood devil he’ll accept that it’ll never quite be power ever again, no matter how hard he tries to turn into her.
That incarceration of the blood Devil will be who they want to be and act how they want to act, like you can’t just forcibly control someone into your ideal interpretation of them.
This can undoubtedly be a lesson for Nayuta as well, and I wish she learns this from Denji similarly to how Shigeo learns from Reigan to not use your powers on others.
A lot of this stuff probably might not happen because you never know what Fujimoto is thinking. With that in mind ima just throw a big enough net and surely one theory will land.
Check in the replies to see my theory on How Denji will become a Terrorist!
Denji needs to inevitably become stronger to overcome later conflicts and besides him learning how to use his powers in creative ways, he’s likely to grow even weaker from humanity since Nayuta convinced Denji that he could be way more loved as chainsaw man rather as Denji.
Something else I need to elaborate is how it has been foreshadowed that a big war is going to happen in the future even as far back as ch 6 with the bigwigs at public safety saying that
“The Soviet war hawks are getting louder over the American matter. We’re also hearing rumors that they’re using devils for military purposes. We can only pray that the devils remain Japan’s enemies.”
And later in ch 73 we learn that this war is going to involve countries attempting to steal parts of the Gun devil from each other, with Makima again saying “I’m sure it will be a kind of war”
All of this suggests that a war will happen in the future, and guess who Denji is getting involved with? Asa the host of the war devil.
Now Yoru wants to regain her strength to fight chainsaw man and a great way to do that is to gain the flesh of extremely strong devils, say like the Gun devil, so I see that Yoru would take advantage of Denji whose identity is definitely going to be revealed to Asa to gain pieces of the gun to fight chainsaw man with Denji getting caught helping her.
How I think this’ll happen is Yoru will tell Denji to look for devils who have eaten pieces of the gun devil kill them and bring the pieces to her, so she can keep them safe and countries using evil devils for military purposes and convinces or manipulate him to go and kill these devils.
You might be thinking “but how would she know that?” well we know the horsemen can remember things chainsaw man has erased from existence and some of the things we know he ate were the WW2 devil and the Nazi devil.
So, no one else remembers what happened in WW2, BUT it’s very likely devils were involved with the war since they’re all over the entire planet and countries made contracts/used devils to gain an advantage during the war?
Denji who used to work at public safety, could know or find out where these devils are being kept and go on a rampage massacring them while Yoru searches for where public safety keeps pieces of the gun.
After doing this, people would become much more afraid of chainsaw man like imagine this cool mysterious hero you love with unknown motives who killed the gun devil y know the devil that killed MILLIONS just randomly attacked a public safety HQ for no apparent reason and was spotted alongside some sketchy woman.
You’ll be scared as fuck! Like, what is this chainsaw guy going to do next?!?
Then the public would start to view him as a terrorist that causes chaotic mayhem, a lot like the original hero of hell chainsaw man. I also think his face will be caught on video or camera, so people would start to harass Denji and Nayuta to parallel Kenji and Nayuta.
I think this is a fascinating theory and could connect to other people like Yoshida and his mysterious organizations motives and would like to hear if you could add anything to it.
terrorist denji
Jojo and Chainsaw Man are my 2 favorite manga franchises so the comparison feels nice
Fujimoto: I don’t want to play with you anymore… but I can’t lose you
Given part 2 starts off similar to part 1 beat by beat it's like two sides of same coin. Denji tho with terrible life had something to keep him going ( Pochita) meanwhile Asa has a roof over her head and goes to school. Yet she has not family and nobody to love or love her. Seeing the two literally don't know either is a devil that opens door for them to be loved as them...eventually
Still denji is like favorite MC i get so hyped whenever he appears in part two
I don’t think it’s gonna be parts like jojo where the characters don’t pass through, I believe it will be similar but I believe chainsaw man, Denji, will always be the focus
I see Asa’s story as a story about overcoming loneliness
(The overcoming part is still an assumption at this point)
i just really hope that the blood devil comes back before the end of the series
I like how in part 2 we get to have a closer look to the persperctive of normal citizens before demons, how these monsters ruin lifes, families, etc literatly every day. Sure in part 1 Fujimoto approached us to it, but the main focus was denji's development and the devil hunter's horrible life
I prefer this frankly: thats kind of something you learn as you mature and successfully grow, you might not be as much of the focus because you allready have yourself figured out, i kind of like this angle of keeping a character as a side character at least in these types of stories, the same might not work in games, or perhaps some fans just dont want their characters to change, but keeping them around while making them less of the focus because their struggles arent as interesting anymore seems way better than how they treat spiderman or goku, just refusing to let them grow, refusing to pass the torch, because nobody wants to grow up. but we still do dont we? better to keep a character's legacy intact and pass the torch than keep rehashing the same old shit because we're too afraid of change
chainsaw man part 1 was all about denji dodging a bullet hell in the form of women that wanted to kill him. now for the first time we are inside the head of one of the women that want to kill him, so that we 1)are seeing the same story from a new perspective, 2)are rooting for both equally because we've empathised with both, and 3)get more invested in the romeo&juliet plot
Great video all around but I gotta disagree with Denjis arc being complete, its really only half over
Thank you. To clarify, my point is that Denji’s character arc prior to Part 2, as established in Part 1, was complete. Now he is in a new character arc.
They're two sides of the same coin, and I feel Denji's craving when he expresses it, but through most of my life I was like Asa. In my personal case it may have been due to being the product of an unplanned birth that led to divorce, giving me the idea that reckless lust was the reason I didn't have a "normal" family. But in that grudge I was unbearably strict and scorned people that were honest with their urges, like Denji, so I hid and denied them, even when I reached an age I was actually becoming curious about it. That dishonesty reeks, so no wonder I didn't get neither sex nor affection.
Good video also I feel like part two is just boring, I love the dark aspects of chainsaw man I feel like Ada is relatable but I feel like we need more denji shenanigans and more of the aspect of him and his new daily life and expanding more on how he doesn’t want to be chainsaw man anymore and he is only doing it for the attention that he can’t get
I mean I kinda think you hit the nail not the head with the Josuke-Morioh comparison, denji hasn’t grown up in a urban society used to devils unlike asa who lost her parents to them
Thank you!
I think the main reason isn't as much narrative as it is personal - Fujimoto has always made shorter stories until now, so it's probably the area where he feels the most comfortable or where he has the most fun
Gotta love it when the title itself is a spoiler
It's simple really, fujimoto stated he wanted to make chainsaw man into parts like Jojo. And I actually like part 2 character way more than part 1.
More makina more makina woof!
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Asa didn't "replaced" Denji. The whole video is fabricated out of nothing and stems from a lack of understanding that Denji's character and his story arc develops through Asa's narrative and her interactions with him. This highlights parallels and differences between them, which helps us gain a better understanding of Denji and see him from unexpected angles. This development is even better than if the manga was conveyed solely through Denji's point of view.
I think MGS2 is another good frame of reference for stories that shifted perspective to a new character. One of the primary reasons the story was told from a perspective other than Snake's, is because viewing Snake from another character's perspective served to make him feel all the more heroic and legendary.
As for CSM, seeing Denji through the eyes of Asa, we see all of the bad and the good in full force, we already love him as a character from part 1 but to someone who doesn't actually know or understand him as a person, all the more childish and abrasive sides of him come to the forefront and she has no idea what to think. I'm sure this will be used as a vehicle to further develop both of them as characters as well as the possible romance between them.
Well obviously Denji will always be the most pivotal character in the series as he is literally the title character, but I feel like changing the protagonist changes the perspective that audience views the story through new lenses. The themes, characters and plot are all continuations of what was set up in Part 1, but all of them are viewed through the lens of Asia’s perspective… even Denji’s evolution as a character is now being viewed from Asa’s perspective instead of from Denji himself. As a storyteller, this honestly creates a much more holistic exploration of everything that is Chainsaw Man and sets the series up to be one of the greatest masterpieces in manga storytelling in the same line as Berserk simply out of the willingness to explore every aspect of the story as fully as possible.
You can read Part 2 with out reading Part 1 this is that what Fujimoto try to archive
You do relize hes said chainsaw man will be in 3 parts with 3 diffrent protags
Honestly i just love Asa and yoru right know rlly curious how this is going to end 🙏🏼
denji is still the main character, he's just not the protagonist anymore; Asa is the protagonist now
What damn I just spoiled myself. Why would I even continue watching/reading without denji. Lame.
He’s still in the story and is coming into battle soon
@@enchantix6302 Did you not read last chapter? He died and the War Devil took his heart.
@@see.ya.in.another.life.brother Also the part where Power's reincarnation kills Nayuta, it slapped tbh, too bad for Denji tho
I don’t mind it
After watching the F&FX trailer with the "we're going back to the old roots" I was so pissed off that they're still trying to make the franchise work that I noticed that you can't go much further when you have same main cast with 10 different stories without making them feel repetitive. The thing with jojo is that although everyone expects the same stand fighting for each part, the themes of the story vary because it's a different main cast in a different place, and that's where the hype comes from.
denji still is apart of the show as an important character, but I think it'll be more Asa and Yoru then Denji for this arc ( Yoru/Asa getting stronger )
Denji hasn't even been replaced lol. There's a switch off in narration between him and Asa from time to time, but Denji is still protagonist while Asa serves as the deuteragonist of part 2.
Pretty sure he just wanted to add a protagonist who is a cute girl
Ikr, very Fujimoto-like
There too much denji is still set up to do and not to mention plot holes but I do like that they are bringing the focus to Asa for a while. I don't think it's Asa's story now however, I think this will be a story about pochita ultimately
He needed another protagonist to fill it with trauma and keeps taking everything away from the character again since he left Denji all screwed up
I want kobeni spinoff or something like that or another story like fire punch
I still enjoy Denji more as a protag but Asa fits pretty well in how the events have played out so far and my girl Asa suffering nonstop like Denji was damn Fujimoto don't have another mc just for them to suffer xD
All of Fujimoto’s manga are just pain and yet we beg for more. Oh the irony.
@ShonenOuji My brain just can't let go of the joy of suffering xD
@@SamTheGumMan117 we're all just masochists