For folks like MsSomeonenew and Alan Brown: people who saw the first carriages without a horse said: "Without a horse it won't go." To all the nay-sayers who predict failure because of unsprung weight, size/weight ratios, bumps in the road, dirt in the gears, one-wheel failure, and--oh, right--unsprung weight: hub motors represent a paradigm shift as significant as a self-propelled carriage over the horse-drawn. You lose all the transmission/drivetrain components, gain true four-wheel control (park sideways). What makes you think there won't be hard/soft engineering solutions to relatively simple geometry problems of unsprung weight and wheel control? More: a combustion engine throws away ~80% of the energy from burning complex hydrocarbons; it's like steps away from the fire in the cave, enormous waste at every stage of the processes. There are dozens of ways to get electricity--we've barely begun to explore how to gen and store the stuff.
David Locke yup now if you can find a way to get 90 percent efficiency out of ice,engine's you will buy time for research and development of the other sources of energy
too much rim/ tire weight even that will have a lot of loss you have any idea how much motors weight esp like 100hp motors those things weight 100-150 pounds easy
The first practical electric wheel was developed and built by Le Tourneau in Longview, TX, USA in the 1960's. The electric wheels were used on many large construction equipment machines. They were successful. If one wheel slips the other wheels get its' power.
try earlier than that baker and sunbeam experimented with them in about 1905 and earlier .films of some of those land trains le Tourneau built are on you tube they are amazing
@@sideleyOriginal Yeah, I see that now. I obviously wasn't paying that much attention. I must have been distracted by the fact that I was dreaming about wheel motors back in the 80s. Oh yes, I had fantasies of being an exotic electric car designer. I have drawings of what is essentially a bizarro motor, where windings stay fixed and magnets go around, like RC airplane motors do today. A tire goes around the outside instead of a propeller and boom, you've got a wheel motor. I even had the idea of a door hinge like the Venturi Voltage!
Its not practical to put an electric hub into a wheel. Unsprung weight has serious consequences when it comes to stability. This is why sports cars try to lessen as much unsprung weight as possible.
Very cool. What's the expected cost to replace a wheel? The battery pack? Will they be able to offer 5yr/100k mile warrantee on this drive train? Expected life of these components?
The active wheel is not the actual rim/tire It's whats behind it, replacing a flat or changing to winter tires is as simple as removing the rim and changing it like normal. If you look closely at the beginning of the video you will see what I am talking about.
@+Li Qin yeah you can't go up against the oil companies.. except Tesla makes EVs and Nissan and almost every single big name car company makes a plug in hybrid with the electric range of the daily commute for most people... i think its time you take off that tin foil hat cause even the oil companies is developing battery tech...
I think one of the problems with this design is the vibration on the hub motor over time, since it is subjected to all sorts of impact. This is one of the reasons why most companies isolate the electric motor on the chasis instead of the wheel hub. It is a longevity thing. Maybe have a few experimental cars riding NYC streets and highway for a few years should help to see if such a design can take a real world pounding. There is also the issue of stability with the unsprung weight of the motors in the wheels.
@@patrickmiao1698 You could probably change the angle or add more support in there to ease that stress. I do like the Orbis design better overall though, maintaining the suspension with the hub.
@@patrickmiao1698 No, the motor is still attached to the chasis. There needs to be a opposite force to move the vehicle forward. If the motor rotates with the wheel then will no movement and there will be more wheel spin only. The motor willbe attached to the chasis, just that it will be within wheels. So there is no point about unsprung weight in wheels.
Radioisotope generator with such size is waaay too small for such use. Also, radioisotope generators will be never used in automotive, because car accident with that thing may cause disaster (by contamination, not explosion)
If we add on the rewind so combining generator and motor in one piece then attach magnet on the rim spin over extra coil on the shielded frame then we get much more power needed for climbing hill and even drive the hovering unit if so desired
My major problem with this great invention is not to whom the credits should go but why on earth it is not commercially available. Because I would certainly buy this. Why? Seriously. Anyone? Michelin never went beyond the prototype as far as I discovered... Thanks for any comments on this.
You really think it was Michelin who made this video? They called a wheel a will, for fucks sake. You think Michelin publish PR videos with typos in them?
Can engine charge the battery then use onwgeel motor for extended drive. Specially new battery of inverter that one battery while deplete rever the charging to other battery and literally limitless by innovative grounding. Because if in theory if we reverse poles the battery can reverse state by desuffide its cell and restore battery to original charge so two set battery can do that
A neat package it is, however everyone needs to understand there are serious size limits to what you can do with this and why it is in a tiny car. Any car that is heavier would need bigger suspension, bigger motors and bigger brakes, which would mean it doesn't fit in the wheel any more so you suddenly need to abandon the entire concept.
i think YASA motors is developing a motor that is about the same size but has like 120hp and the most important part is that it doesn't need a reduction gear...i also don't see why they can't directly fit it behind the wheel.. into the car body work but leave it in the wheel well...
We have 18 and even 20 inch wheels nowadays. Bigger if necessary. I understand and appreciate the problems you point out but frankly, we're not talking NASA type engineering complexity here. A big firm such as Michelin should move forward and hire a new crew who can get the job done. Also, as a consumer I am not interested in going 100 km fully electric. Never have been. I don't need fully electric. It's enough for me to cut my fuel consumption even by as little as 25%. And I cannot afford a new car anyway. If the diesel/ petrol engine and these electric motors have to run in pair to get me this result I'm good with that. 25% improved milage is a lot! Sure is better than nothing. This system isn't as fancy as a Tesla but is so close to what many ordinary people could benefit from today. And these turkeys have not been able to get results out of a working prototype since 2010.
These wheels are perfect for tow behind trailers. Save gas and energy for gas/electric cars that tow. I would buy and safely install onto my trailer and tow with my Tesla Model S.
Not a good idea because this adds UNSPRUNG weight to the wheel which slows the wheel in response to bumps and potholes. There is good reason why wheels should be as light as possible, to keep response time to a bare minimum. It would be a better idea to keep the electric motor and brake components toward the center of the car in between the wheels(where the differential normally is), with only a light driveshaft leading to the hub.
patricktt2020 I see your point but in this example everything is in the wheel brakes propulsion and suspension the chassis is just a platform holding the batteries and passengers. roads aren't as rough as the were in the 50s so that slow reaction won't really matter in a city car.i don't know? does anybody know what became of this project.?
Is this a satire video for those who don't understand engineering? That's a standard combustion engine Opel in the video (with a huge radiator in its grill) The thing under the car that it says is the battery is 1/1000 size of an electric car battery at best.
now just slap in a super capacitor bank and a resistance based fuse wire max load detection system and a slow discharge circuit to recharge your battery and you can plug in (where available) to any source and go from a half dead to full battery while you get your coffee (walking in for coffee is more pleasant anyway) or if there is a line you could go from zer0 life to full charge, most systems are limited by their current handling, the pre set limit to not blow fuses or the batteries charge rate, imagine plugging into a standard 120 volt 10 amp (lowest outdoor outlet voltage and amperage rating) and getting 100 watt hours of electricity in the 5 minutes (often takes more) to get a coffee, or say you had a 15 minute line (ive waited 10 minutes in the drive through with no one in front) so 20 minutes by time your out the door, and also say it was a 240 volt plug (likely for charging) and a 40 amp fuse (half for the more likely 20 you will find) 3200 watt hours in that 20 minute wait
Only a prototype at this stage, far as I know. Experience is showing that electric drivetrains and batts will exceed expectations of the customer as long as they are from reputable supliers, well installed and maintained. I have about 30 friends, associates driving EV's, Hybids now some hand made others commercial (mine is in planning) running costs are low and reliability high. Toyota have just back dated and doubled warranty on the battery here to 2001 ! confidence!
I'd say the unsprung weight is very low. since there is no on vehicle suspension. and probably only tire and rim and hub with breaks is sprung. I guess. just think what a 14 bolt 1 ton Axel and duel wheels and tires weigh! hundreds and a few more more pounds! I'd say the in sprung weight of these is a feather in comparison. but electric motors can be heavy too. but is the motor sprung or not ? but it is still probably still not that heavy. but those wheels really look bad. and the spacing doesn't help!
Perfect! Now all it needs is a Alternator Loop system and it will have unlimited portable electric power without any petrol strings attached! This is a step towards the No-Fuel Revolution. I wonder if the car designers might consider a partnership with Mitsubishi to use their TIGA motors inside the MAW.
Carlo Miranda you won't recover enough energy to counter your output, people aren't stupid so if you think that's an original thought Google it and see it fail in real experimental examples
Well I've seen three versions of generators which do produce more than they require to run. It's only disinformation which gets us stuck. Like people who said AC was dangerous and DC was what we should stick to. Besides, we already have plenty of tech put there that only needs being released on dates for people to see. Google is not a reliable source when it comes to these things. Did you even know that there are two patented designs to retrofit the internal combustion engine to run on human blood? Don't Google that.
Carlo Miranda you were scammed, if those things work you couldn't suppress that information we are talking about it now. and on a side note Elon musk withdrew the patents on the tesla motor controller, the motor and battery packs his company makes, he said he wanted people to freely experiment and manufacture cars based on his company's products, it was his way of encouragement for competition, that's unheard of in manufacturing
Elon Musk is a good guy. He's encouraging everyone. In contrast, the ones that suppress technology and other things are all in high chairs and dark suits. Eg. Australia has a 3 year delay with everything, technology and medical developments etc. Of course that's overridden on a global epidemic but still this hurts. Now think of Moller's Skycar and the new electric fan driven flying car. Those have been around for a while and people only know about them from documentaries decades later. Also, there are tones of suppressed information. Like did you know that Hurricane Katrina was actually a weapons test? If you trace the flood of transmissions from the huge antenna arrays they've got globally, before and after Katrina, and the heat domes that were used to produce, propel, and redirect the storm then you'll see it was directed mechanically. Making a small cyclone in a lab is easy, btw. Also, the worldwide "donations for starving worlds" scam is huge. The purpose is to crash economies intentionally while the rich ones prosper so they'd sell food to them and make us donate to the management. This is well known. ps. I'm not upset at you, I'm just passionate about this topic.
Carlo Miranda passionate about things is fine,but logic and evidence based reason is also important, there are a lot of scams and fakes out there. Miller's aircr is a scam. The zoche aircraft diesel engine is a scam. Conspiracy theories are also dead ends.
So when someone flogs my wheels they not only get my rims, they get my fucking engines and suspension too? GREAT LOGIC. As an aside, I doubt this is by Michelin - Michelin doesn't have typos all through it's videos. At least not usually.
+Dennis Santos Unsprung weight per corner on their Heuliez Will is 35 kg for the front corners, where smallish conventional cars often have 40 kg of unsprung weight. So, no not higher, let alone MUCH higher. Of course, the Heuliez only generates ~30 kW so it's electric motors aren't exactly beastly. If you'd put motors on all wheels, then you would be getting 60 kW which seems more reasonable.
A.S S Well, unsprung weight is dependent on tyre and rim size in addition to suspension and braking components. Some old sports cars used to have the brake disks just outside the differential - not on the wheels in order to reduce that weight, like the jaguar e-type, for example. This puts everything in the hub, even the motor and reduction gearbox, in addition to the brakes. I get it, that with light materials, unsprung weight can be kept to a minimum, but, IMHO it's not ideal. Light materials often equates to weaker materials. And that simple, compact sliding suspension can't have anti roll bars attached or other stabilising components, so I can't see this particular design used for anything else besides basic transport.
What are you get the electric for that car what is the electric come from do you know where the how they make electricity or where electricity comes from hello hello there anybody there
COMMENT the open differential on most cars is only putting tourqe on one wheel it just takes a almost unnoticed steering correction. go carts,pushing 70,and 80 mph,only have one powered wheel. and most of the earliest cars only had chain drive to one wheel. as long as you have good traction it doesn't affect much,
This will save maintenance money for driver and easier the repair for mechanic and less parts to store in supply it is win win. I tried to get contract to manufacturer it with Honda Vietnam or TaTa India 10 years ago but not get the deal through because big deal take time. This is about 30 trillion dollar in the next 20 years so not small
Electric cars are the future. However, Tesla doesn't use electric wheel, instead it mounts the motor inside the car. But you can get an e-bike with 250W electric motor inside wheel.
For folks like MsSomeonenew and Alan Brown: people who saw the first carriages without a horse said: "Without a horse it won't go."
To all the nay-sayers who predict failure because of unsprung weight, size/weight ratios, bumps in the road, dirt in the gears, one-wheel failure, and--oh, right--unsprung weight: hub motors represent a paradigm shift as significant as a self-propelled carriage over the horse-drawn. You lose all the transmission/drivetrain components, gain true four-wheel control (park sideways). What makes you think there won't be hard/soft engineering solutions to relatively simple geometry problems of unsprung weight and wheel control? More: a combustion engine throws away ~80% of the energy from burning complex hydrocarbons; it's like steps away from the fire in the cave, enormous waste at every stage of the processes. There are dozens of ways to get electricity--we've barely begun to explore how to gen and store the stuff.
David Locke yup now if you can find a way to get 90 percent efficiency out of ice,engine's you will buy time for research and development of the other sources of energy
as if an elon musk battery pack doesn't throw away 80 percent of its energy! it takes a lot of diesel to make and recycle a musk battery pack!
What about bose's magniride why wouldn't it work in cars today bet you cant explain that one
I am reading your comment after three years hope you are alive and well why I still can't see this tech in market?.
too much rim/ tire weight even that will have a lot of loss you have any idea how much motors weight esp like 100hp motors those things weight 100-150 pounds easy
The first practical electric wheel was developed and built by Le Tourneau in Longview, TX, USA in the 1960's. The electric wheels were used on many large construction equipment machines. They were successful. If one wheel slips the other wheels get its' power.
try earlier than that baker and sunbeam experimented with them in about 1905 and earlier .films of some of those land trains le Tourneau built are on you tube they are amazing
This video was 10 years ago. What has happened with this concept since then??
More petrol cars were made.
company called REE made it with toyota
search on youtube "civic Orbis ring gear wheel conversion" its very similar prototype
@@cio09k amazing tnx a lot
IP.... licensing costs, blah blah blah....
"Michelin Active Wheel: Tire with Electric Motor and Suspension" - yes I've corrected it :P
1:21 "Will is..."
Who is writing this and why don't they have a proofreader?
Will is the name of the vehicle, not the noun nor the future tense auxiliary
@@sideleyOriginal Yeah, I see that now. I obviously wasn't paying that much attention. I must have been distracted by the fact that I was dreaming about wheel motors back in the 80s. Oh yes, I had fantasies of being an exotic electric car designer.
I have drawings of what is essentially a bizarro motor, where windings stay fixed and magnets go around, like RC airplane motors do today. A tire goes around the outside instead of a propeller and boom, you've got a wheel motor.
I even had the idea of a door hinge like the Venturi Voltage!
@@pratherat sounds very interesting to me! Would love to see your drawings, if you still have them
Hello. Please ask where I can buy this product. Thanks you.
That was interesting , now I would have to see how well it both works AND endures the day to day stresses of constant use. Then I will be on board.
1:57 did any see the size of this battery pack or is it flux capacitor in a different form
It has a range of 50 miles. What would you need a flux capacitor for.
Hello from the future, 2020. Just wondering how you provide heat and AC?
Amm, have you heard about residential AC units? I don't think they use Gasoline or IC engines to make them work...
Looks very interesting would like to see more specs and detail about how it works. Great innovation.
10 year old video
but the concept is very good...wheel with motor, brakes, suspension...and what about the mileage of the car?
cool! still not on the market in 2016? (6 years later)
+Marcus Rolloos Exactly!! Wonder if Tesla looked at this..and it's just not there yet?? Perhaps.
Its not practical to put an electric hub into a wheel. Unsprung weight has serious consequences when it comes to stability. This is why sports cars try to lessen as much unsprung weight as possible.
Orbis did it for FK8 Civic. No gain in unsprung weight over stock assemblies.
Orbis
Very cool. What's the expected cost to replace a wheel? The battery pack? Will they be able to offer 5yr/100k mile warrantee on this drive train? Expected life of these components?
Car having active wheels may run side by side,ie one can steer it from right to left.
This video needs more time on the wheel and less on the hype. Worthless.
Well you guys can send me 4 to try out on my 94 DeVille make sure they come whit chrome rims ,just to keep the original look on my Cadillac please.
So... you have to remove everything to replace tires for winter season?
How to replace tire when it's damaged? Need to call Michelin service? Or what?
The active wheel is not the actual rim/tire It's whats behind it, replacing a flat or changing to winter tires is as simple as removing the rim and changing it like normal. If you look closely at the beginning of the video you will see what I am talking about.
le système n'est pas dans la jante (qui est normale) mais dans la fusée.
Hi I have few ideas regarding this. But help me for research and study.
Can't believe this is not a reality yet. This should be made available as an after market kit! Michelin - are you listening?
Oil companies control incalculable quantities of dollars and the most powerful armies. Who will challenge them?
@+Li Qin yeah you can't go up against the oil companies.. except Tesla makes EVs and Nissan and almost every single big name car company makes a plug in hybrid with the electric range of the daily commute for most people... i think its time you take off that tin foil hat cause even the oil companies is developing battery tech...
I think one of the problems with this design is the vibration on the hub motor over time, since it is subjected to all sorts of impact. This is one of the reasons why most companies isolate the electric motor on the chasis instead of the wheel hub. It is a longevity thing. Maybe have a few experimental cars riding NYC streets and highway for a few years should help to see if such a design can take a real world pounding. There is also the issue of stability with the unsprung weight of the motors in the wheels.
@@patrickmiao1698 You could probably change the angle or add more support in there to ease that stress. I do like the Orbis design better overall though, maintaining the suspension with the hub.
@@patrickmiao1698 No, the motor is still attached to the chasis. There needs to be a opposite force to move the vehicle forward. If the motor rotates with the wheel then will no movement and there will be more wheel spin only. The motor willbe attached to the chasis, just that it will be within wheels. So there is no point about unsprung weight in wheels.
Ich erinnere mich. Hat das nicht eine Schweizer UNI vorgestellt. Leider keine technischen Daten. Hätte der Microlino das nicht nutzen können???
@2:00 Is that a radioisotope generator?
Radioisotope generator with such size is waaay too small for such use. Also, radioisotope generators will be never used in automotive, because car accident with that thing may cause disaster (by contamination, not explosion)
+technics6 I'm 37 and have never been in a accident whether my fault or someone elses fault, can I have one?
how about michelin active wheel for all four wheels, what traction that would be.
If we add on the rewind so combining generator and motor in one piece then attach magnet on the rim spin over extra coil on the shielded frame then we get much more power needed for climbing hill and even drive the hovering unit if so desired
Looks super-efficient and all that, but I keep wondering what will happen to it if it falls into a pothole.
My major problem with this great invention is not to whom the credits should go but why on earth it is not commercially available. Because I would certainly buy this. Why? Seriously. Anyone? Michelin never went beyond the prototype as far as I discovered... Thanks for any comments on this.
Great idea. So what happened to this?
was thinkin about the same
Michelin, where are you in the market today with your wheel ??? 💪🇧🇪
You really think it was Michelin who made this video? They called a wheel a will, for fucks sake. You think Michelin publish PR videos with typos in them?
Pourquoi ne la commercialisez vous pas?
Can engine charge the battery then use onwgeel motor for extended drive. Specially new battery of inverter that one battery while deplete rever the charging to other battery and literally limitless by innovative grounding. Because if in theory if we reverse poles the battery can reverse state by desuffide its cell and restore battery to original charge so two set battery can do that
Do y'all have kits for any vehicle if not I have a 84 ford f150 I need this
A neat package it is, however everyone needs to understand there are serious size limits to what you can do with this and why it is in a tiny car. Any car that is heavier would need bigger suspension, bigger motors and bigger brakes, which would mean it doesn't fit in the wheel any more so you suddenly need to abandon the entire concept.
i think YASA motors is developing a motor that is about the same size but has like 120hp and the most important part is that it doesn't need a reduction gear...i also don't see why they can't directly fit it behind the wheel.. into the car body work but leave it in the wheel well...
We have 18 and even 20 inch wheels nowadays. Bigger if necessary. I understand and appreciate the problems you point out but frankly, we're not talking NASA type engineering complexity here. A big firm such as Michelin should move forward and hire a new crew who can get the job done.
Also, as a consumer I am not interested in going 100 km fully electric. Never have been. I don't need fully electric. It's enough for me to cut my fuel consumption even by as little as 25%. And I cannot afford a new car anyway. If the diesel/ petrol engine and these electric motors have to run in pair to get me this result I'm good with that. 25% improved milage is a lot! Sure is better than nothing. This system isn't as fancy as a Tesla but is so close to what many ordinary people could benefit from today. And these turkeys have not been able to get results out of a working prototype since 2010.
How is it in cold weather
Did they stop???
What happened if tire goes flat/puncture ?
me pueden decir si se puede ahorrar combustible. y si se pude conectar al alternador
+Daniel Escobar Tarrillo Es un carro ELECTRICO
Millions of cars will need conversion to EV. Could this be the fits all conversion kit? At least for small town cars?
What do you do if you get a flat. Full size spare?
A small patch over the puncture with rubber sealant glue does the job in less than half an hour.
So what is the cost for all 4 wheels?
These wheels are perfect for tow behind trailers. Save gas and energy for gas/electric cars that tow. I would buy and safely install onto my trailer and tow with my Tesla Model S.
Well......... Where is it ? Where can I get one (or four) ???
How do you change the tyre ?
use the wifi
+erg0centric lol
I think you change those tire like a regular car,when you unscrew the bolts only the wheel comes out not the motor
But can it rally?
Not a good idea because this adds UNSPRUNG weight to the wheel which slows the wheel in response to bumps and potholes. There is good reason why wheels should be as light as possible, to keep response time to a bare minimum. It would be a better idea to keep the electric motor and brake components toward the center of the car in between the wheels(where the differential normally is), with only a light driveshaft leading to the hub.
+patricktt2020
i came here to say the same thing
thanks brother, I got the unsprung mass theory.
from the looks of the video. The motor stays stationary while the wheel moves up and down. I think having the drive train so low would help handling.
turn on your brain and check more details before you talk bullshit templates you learned
patricktt2020 I see your point but in this example everything is in the wheel brakes propulsion and suspension the chassis is just a platform holding the batteries and passengers. roads aren't as rough as the were in the 50s so that slow reaction won't really matter in a city car.i don't know? does anybody know what became of this project.?
You need a comma before Which. ie "Tire, witch, electric motor and suspension". But were is the witch?
Michael Richardson with not which
Wheel not will
Is this a satire video for those who don't understand engineering?
That's a standard combustion engine Opel in the video (with a huge radiator in its grill)
The thing under the car that it says is the battery is 1/1000 size of an electric car battery at best.
now just slap in a super capacitor bank and a resistance based fuse wire max load detection system and a slow discharge circuit to recharge your battery and you can plug in (where available) to any source and go from a half dead to full battery while you get your coffee (walking in for coffee is more pleasant anyway) or if there is a line you could go from zer0 life to full charge, most systems are limited by their current handling, the pre set limit to not blow fuses or the batteries charge rate, imagine plugging into a standard 120 volt 10 amp (lowest outdoor outlet voltage and amperage rating) and getting 100 watt hours of electricity in the 5 minutes (often takes more) to get a coffee, or say you had a 15 minute line (ive waited 10 minutes in the drive through with no one in front) so 20 minutes by time your out the door, and also say it was a 240 volt plug (likely for charging) and a 40 amp fuse (half for the more likely 20 you will find) 3200 watt hours in that 20 minute wait
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Graphene batteries in phones will fully charge in seconds.
Noting here how outdated these comments have completely become. 10 years later, Michelin was already ahead of its time.
Who else is here because 2019 AWD Civic Orbis wheel mod???
Who else is kinda shocked to see that this tech is about 10 years old??
This tech was purchased from Michelin by an oil investment company and put to bed
Only a prototype at this stage, far as I know. Experience is showing that electric drivetrains and batts will exceed expectations of the customer as long as they are from reputable supliers, well installed and maintained. I have about 30 friends, associates driving EV's, Hybids now some hand made others commercial (mine is in planning) running costs are low and reliability high. Toyota have just back dated and doubled warranty on the battery here to 2001 ! confidence!
Yo quiero uno y también me gustaría apoyar su proyecto para venta
2:08 entendí esa referencia
hahaha
I'd say the unsprung weight is very low. since there is no on vehicle suspension. and probably only tire and rim and hub with breaks is sprung. I guess. just think what a 14 bolt 1 ton Axel and duel wheels and tires weigh! hundreds and a few more more pounds! I'd say the in sprung weight of these is a feather in comparison. but electric motors can be heavy too. but is the motor sprung or not ? but it is still probably still not that heavy. but those wheels really look bad. and the spacing doesn't help!
Why Rolls roys dont put it on its Bentley cars? Or any limousin company?
Perfect! Now all it needs is a Alternator Loop system and it will have unlimited portable electric power without any petrol strings attached! This is a step towards the No-Fuel Revolution. I wonder if the car designers might consider a partnership with Mitsubishi to use their TIGA motors inside the MAW.
Carlo Miranda you won't recover enough energy to counter your output, people aren't stupid so if you think that's an original thought Google it and see it fail in real experimental examples
Well I've seen three versions of generators which do produce more than they require to run. It's only disinformation which gets us stuck. Like people who said AC was dangerous and DC was what we should stick to. Besides, we already have plenty of tech put there that only needs being released on dates for people to see. Google is not a reliable source when it comes to these things. Did you even know that there are two patented designs to retrofit the internal combustion engine to run on human blood? Don't Google that.
Carlo Miranda you were scammed, if those things work you couldn't suppress that information we are talking about it now. and on a side note Elon musk withdrew the patents on the tesla motor controller, the motor and battery packs his company makes, he said he wanted people to freely experiment and manufacture cars based on his company's products, it was his way of encouragement for competition, that's unheard of in manufacturing
Elon Musk is a good guy. He's encouraging everyone.
In contrast, the ones that suppress technology and other things are all in high chairs and dark suits. Eg. Australia has a 3 year delay with everything, technology and medical developments etc. Of course that's overridden on a global epidemic but still this hurts. Now think of Moller's Skycar and the new electric fan driven flying car. Those have been around for a while and people only know about them from documentaries decades later.
Also, there are tones of suppressed information. Like did you know that Hurricane Katrina was actually a weapons test? If you trace the flood of transmissions from the huge antenna arrays they've got globally, before and after Katrina, and the heat domes that were used to produce, propel, and redirect the storm then you'll see it was directed mechanically. Making a small cyclone in a lab is easy, btw. Also, the worldwide "donations for starving worlds" scam is huge. The purpose is to crash economies intentionally while the rich ones prosper so they'd sell food to them and make us donate to the management. This is well known.
ps. I'm not upset at you, I'm just passionate about this topic.
Carlo Miranda passionate about things is fine,but logic and evidence based reason is also important, there are a lot of scams and fakes out there. Miller's aircr is a scam. The zoche aircraft diesel engine is a scam. Conspiracy theories are also dead ends.
So when someone flogs my wheels they not only get my rims, they get my fucking engines and suspension too? GREAT LOGIC. As an aside, I doubt this is by Michelin - Michelin doesn't have typos all through it's videos. At least not usually.
Seems like a lot of unsprung weight.
Changing out a flat should be fun too.
+Dennis Santos
Unsprung weight per corner on their Heuliez Will is 35 kg for the front corners, where smallish conventional cars often have 40 kg of unsprung weight. So, no not higher, let alone MUCH higher.
Of course, the Heuliez only generates ~30 kW so it's electric motors aren't exactly beastly. If you'd put motors on all wheels, then you would be getting 60 kW which seems more reasonable.
A.S S Well, unsprung weight is dependent on tyre and rim size in addition to suspension and braking components. Some old sports cars used to have the brake disks just outside the differential - not on the wheels in order to reduce that weight, like the jaguar e-type, for example.
This puts everything in the hub, even the motor and reduction gearbox, in addition to the brakes.
I get it, that with light materials, unsprung weight can be kept to a minimum, but, IMHO it's not ideal.
Light materials often equates to weaker materials. And that simple, compact sliding suspension can't have anti roll bars attached or other stabilising components, so I can't see this particular design used for anything else besides basic transport.
you ca.nt drive these car in rain or floody roads dead shortciruit have you guys though of it
water proof stupid shit
Este auto eléctrico pasara 35cm de agua una distancia de 800mts como ocurre en resistencia chaco depues de una lluvia
Imagine the comment section if this technology was real and you got a flat.....
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What are you get the electric for that car what is the electric come from do you know where the how they make electricity or where electricity comes from hello hello there anybody there
Of the battery is only as big as shown, it will have an estimate range of 10 miles.
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What ever happened to this? And the Tweel?
where I live we have rainy weather :(
I've driven in flooded conditions with no problems using EV with motors fitted into the wheel.
I thought its smthing new... Then I saw the notebook with Windows XP xd
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Does it really run on 7: 18650 Batteries & where is this thing???
killing Tesla....
If you're talking about a race car sure, but an suv or truck not such a big deal.
i want one on my skateboard ....
With computer power and the combined technology's you can make an electric car that theoretically you only charge once.
You can't use the word Can and Theoretically in one sentence.
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PROBLEM WITH THIS . ONE MOTOR ON THE WHEEL FAILS AND THE CAR WILL STEER IN THAT DIRECTION
+COMMENT Yes, and rest of cars won't run period upon motor failure.
I think the car will have a system that will tell you if a motor is reaching end of life
Yes,also not to mention all the unsprung weight ruining handling
sorry. that was my old keyboard. caps lock was stuck.
COMMENT the open differential on most cars is only putting tourqe on one wheel it just takes a almost unnoticed steering correction. go carts,pushing 70,and 80 mph,only have one powered wheel. and most of the earliest cars only had chain drive to one wheel. as long as you have good traction it doesn't affect much,
This will save maintenance money for driver and easier the repair for mechanic and less parts to store in supply it is win win. I tried to get contract to manufacturer it with Honda Vietnam or TaTa India 10 years ago but not get the deal through because big deal take time. This is about 30 trillion dollar in the next 20 years so not small
where is the transmission? motor of that size can definitely not have a transmission built-in
why do you even need the transmission in a direct drive system
Electric cars are the future. However, Tesla doesn't use electric wheel, instead it mounts the motor inside the car. But you can get an e-bike with 250W electric motor inside wheel.
Semakin berkembang .. kapan ya indonesia bisa mengikuti tekhnologi nya.. gasoline masih terus di pakai di sini haduh
I watch this from your future
I watch this from your future
@@小山田心子 thats my future
I saw this 11 years ago and still.. we don't have anything like it on the market. Monopolies need to hurry up I guess.
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Someone wrote this will on a whim and it is not light.
Wow I want some for my car I want to make a difference
guess orbis driven picked where they left off
I want this on my old Corvette. Take my 450lb engine out and these wheels on.
yeah, will be a great way to convert old cars to electric...without much hassle
Good luck with that especially in places with lots of snow and ice
@oneviwatara ?
If you design onwheel hydraulic pocket then the weight of the car will drive the wheel forever
i understand the motor but why the suspension. this is dumb. to-much un-sprung mass
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Safer my ars! how can u be safe in a suitcase with wheels!
Winter Soldier if crash the whole car dissipates with you in it😂😂😂
Wow super
Большая масса колеса разломает всю подвеску , известный минус мотор колеса.
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The title of the video misses a verb.
Still we cant get you after 10 years
...and??????????
7 years ago and nothing to show for it
Writing the title incorrectly is not confidence inspiring.
Yes, increase the unsprung mass and destroy the handling. Genius...
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