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I know part of you will always love him because he is forever part of your family and that's ok. It is also ok to love someone from a distance and not support their tomfoolery. He gave you your children but he isn't a child. It is ok to let him lay in the bed he made for himself. He is an adult, and although the consequences of his actions may suck you are not responsible for them. You are free to be as involved or pulled back as you want to be on his path going forward. But I encourage you to ensure that your cup is full before you start pouring much out for others (aside from your kids, obviously). You have 2 kids, yourself, a household, and a career to manage, don't take on more than feels right for you.
You are not only doing the right thing for your kids but you are in no way responsible for his actions. As a fan I’m here in the comments to support everything you say and do. You are an amazing human and a wonderful mother. Thank you for all your positive affirmations and positive energy. Just thank you. 🙏
You support everything she says and does? I don't even support everything my kid says and does. To blindly say that to someone you have never met is crazy. She's an internet personality who lives in CALIFORNIA. Who hardly ever lets anyone speak without interrupting. To be honest I hate that she popped back up on my feed.
Omg, I LOVE Chris. Hearing him talk that way BREAKS MY HEART! He is probably one of the sweetest Humans on UA-cam. So gentle and caring; He’s guarded for sure- because, even his tone is different in this video. 😢 LOVE YOU CHRIS!!
You are not in any way responsible for his actions! You are only responsible for your own and right now for your children. He alone is responsible for his choices. You certainly did not appear to be doing anything to indicate that you approved of his behavior which is the only way that it would involve you at all.
I agree...I really like Steven but if he feels as if he needs to apologies he can do so on his own podcast don't be moved by quilt it is okay to live your life it is okay you met someone..you are both very wise and good people and as a family I am certain all your hopes will be obtained but let yourself off the hook and from now on don't do things that make you uncomfortable ...love and light
She’s not listening. It is well over a year, nearer to 2 years. People have tried consistently to help her and she has been unable to take any sound advice from anyone on here. Why would she keep doing things with her ex in the most recent videos as of late? I can’t believe she really loves him as she still says over and over again after all he has done and said to her at every turn. And still embarrassing and diminishing her near to every time he comes near. And giving an ex a key to your home? She definitely needs to change all the locks on every single door of her home.
@@susie_q1 you can’t believe someone who has had children with this person who has saw him rise and fall who has spent time with him privately who has loved him who has married him who had an entire life you can’t believe she could still have love for him….. weird
Chris is the sweetest and I have to admit that I did a quick inhale audibly when, after seeing Chris' reaction and reading his body lanuage in the studio area while you were prepping with him, that when Stephen came in with arms outstretched looking for a hug hello from him... I hope Chris was ok with that. I'm sure I'm not up to date with everything between you all, but I do hope Stephen had a great birthday and you all feel good about the day overall. I look forward to the podcast. Wishing everyone the best.
Laura shouldn't have EVER put Chris in a situation where he was with Stephen. Knowing the hate he spewed, if she has any respect for Chris, she would stop trying to fix Stephen, he's shown us who he really is.
He didn't hug Stephen and that is fine. He rejected Stephen's amends and that should have been fine since this is all supposedly for Stephen's sobriety and Step 8. However, Stephen went straight to TikTok live to say awful things about Chris and to tell anyone listening he gave Chris his career. Stephen and Chris, according to Stephen, had some private beef and Chris is gay so he was very hurt by things Stephen said to him personally about gay people and being gay. Chris doesn't owe Stephen anything.
This makes me feel happy, Laura. I know the podcast was so hard - but I do see the joy in his face with the kids. He’s still in there somewhere and coming back so he can be a good co-parent and dad. You’re doing amazing, mama!
Also, he showed his new girlfriend on TikTok Live today. He basically told her the camera wasn't pointed at her, but it was at an optimal angle and broadcasted them on a video call with her best friend. He mumbled that he was on live, but after the camera comment I'm not sure if she knows what was happening. Then when people asked him about it, he said she knew and then ignored it. He was all riled up at the time from the comments on the "I'm a cheater" video at the time. He is a loose cannon with anyone he is close to for if he will use them. Her today, arguing with you on live, using Poppy to say "I want my family back" for Christmas while he was already courting this new girl..... It's just a lot.
It is alot. He may be grabbing at straws. When there are non left people tend to make some more. It's disgusting to see the lengths people will go to not have anymore control at all. In any way ever again. Went through it with my ex. It shows in their behavior afterwards even more when they finally blow their gasket at the realization of control lose.
Girl, your feelings are spot on. Love is crazy and complicated. You're absolutely allowed to continue to love Stephen while still disagreeing with his words and actions. You built a family, and spent many years together, and that's a super difficult, if not impossible, relationship to just cut out. From what I've seen over the years, you seem like such a sweet, genuine person, and I hope that you're able to find a nice peaceful middle ground in the middle of all the chaos because you deserve it.
Your HP “grants” you the serenity to accept things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (Don’t do for them, what they can do for themselves.) You’re a rockstar, Laura.
He is an adult. He made his choices. Let the consequences if his actions work. Women always feel responsable for the mens fails. Stop. You are not his mom. He must face the consequences by himself. Period.
Let him make his amends on his own Laura. Stay out of it. It's okay to love him and love things about him but you gotta live your life and have your peace. Steven is not all bad but you don't owe him anything. Showing him respect, compassion and compromise is plenty. Let him navigate life on his own and if it doesn't pertain to the kids or their immediate well being then let it be. Not your monkey, not your circus.
We are in the middle of an autistic diagnosis on my 2.5 year old daughter and your videos with your kiddos help me so much. Watching how engaged Poppy is reminds me so much of my 1 year old son. One of the things that hits hardest for me is seeing how our son gets so excited and wants to be so involved and our daughter is still very withdrawn and mostly non-verbal while he’s starting to chat up a storm. I don’t know why, but your video, reminded me of the difference between my 2 and comforted me to know I am not alone in this journey. This is hard. I have no experience parenting a child with autism and every day is a learning experience where I just want to do right by her but I don’t always know what right is.
I'm in a similar situation myself right now but unfortunately I'm "the Stephen" in oir situation because I made some bad choices and lied about them to my wife and violated her trust. And now I'm doing much better (thanks to therapy and going back to church and a lot of love and aupport) and *I* know that I've changed but there's no way to prove that to anyone. I did such a good job of lying in the past that its almost impossible to trust me again 😞 so now my wife has to protect herself and put up boundaries and this is really hurting me but I don't blame her, this is all a direct result of my actions. Its just a painful situation for everyone. Like Laura, I definitely feel sorry for Stephen and hope he is changing/will change, but also know that trust takes time to rebuild and forgiving too soon will only hurt both people. So... I'm sorry you guys are going through this, I applaud Laura for being patient and willing to forgive and I hope Stephen is sincerely committed to improving.
Chris is such a sweet soul. And like everyone else says, we cannot control other’s destructive behaviors. My husband has a SA to 🌽 and it’s been the hardest thing I’ve ever had to deal with. He has a good heart as well but cannot stop. I’ve realized after 34 years that there is a limit to the support.
i feel you on the not being able to control him , especially when hes alone with your kids. I know that he needs to play a part in your kid's life and you need to be amicable , but you are not together and you do not need to think about him or care about him in the way that you used to. you have to care more about yourself than you do about how you make him feel- thats not an issue anymore. just be polite. but keep your walls up when hes around. stay safe and happy and just do you. he misses the connection but its not his business to get up in yours.
Laura your a good person and a great Mom. I have to tell you Poppy just melts my heart when she talks such a little sweetheart. Chris is such a nice person.
I'm so proud of you and the kids, you've all grown and thrived through hard circumstances and times.. The babies are beautiful and I commend you for having the will and heart to maintain a co-parenting relationship that is based on love and planted in healthy soil.. Keep striving and growing.. You got this girl!! ✊🏾❤
He'll never change, he went for me in one of his earlier videos and then set his followers on another woman who had to come off social media entirely. He can't change because he doesn't want to. Just carry on doing what's best for you and the kids and leave him to his own devices
Laura ~ So beautiful you could rIse above everything and celebrate 🥳 Stephen's 50th birthday with the kids; so precious you made it so special for him & your children 🥰
You absolutely made the correct choice in choosing divorce. I didn’t want to accept that for a while and wanted you guys to pull through, but there’s something off about him…and I’m not just saying that because he has controversial opinions. There’s just something off. And I feel for Chris, who you mentioned. I’m also gay. And when Stephen posted that meme or whatever you’d call it on his IG and ridiculed the Rainbow flag, that’s when he finally got a block from me. It wasn’t behavior I would *ever* expect from him and made me feel like the person I was getting to know through my screen over the years was absolutely all a facade. He’s a good person, at heart. But there is something very off about him. And it’s not your job to fix that, Laura.
He’s been full of hate for the last 2yrs or so. Apparently when Alfie got diagnosed with autism, he blamed it on the vaccines (🙄), and spiraled from there to be completely conspiracy theory right winged anti lgbtqia+, anti semetic, anti BLM, racist, bigot, just all the things. He’s posted truly heinous and unhinged content since the divorce. 😳
❤ it’s hard especially when there are children you want to try and do everything to fix things but t be careful with that it can quickly turn into codependency. You got this Mama ❤
Both can be true! You can want your family together and not agree with his actions. Any person ultimately would want to see their kids have a healthy coparent situation. You’re an amazing person and no one can take that.
Laura this made my cry! ❤ You and your children are a great example of what unconditional love really looks like. I wish more people could act like this during and after a divorce! You’re a class act! ❤Great job! Keep the faith and follow your gut always!
Now that’s the best I’ve seen you interact with him keeping it positive and encouraging the kids to be their cute selves !! So happy!! I still pray you two get back together !! I almost left my husband in 2018/9 and I stuck it out as hard as it was at times I’m glad I did, he just turned 51 and then suddenly died in front of my youngest son and I and I’m so broken!! I miss him so much but I’m thankful for the many laughs and hugs and fun and love before he was suddenly gone! I would have had so many more regrets I just know it!! The empath in me would have crumbled even more! Love this version of you!! Like when you listened to his music before your show. Love him for the unique guy who adores you and is a great loving dad !! Because trust me you could have it so much worse !!!
Laura, you're doing an amazing job with those kiddos ❤ listen. You aren't responsible for Stephen's actions or his making ammends. I'm not usually commenting on things but I can relate to this on a very intimate level. It took me too many years of doing exactly what you're doing for the father of my girls. I saw his goodness. I saw his potential. It took me too long to leave the relationship, it took me so much longer to let go of this sense of responsibility I had for him because he was the father of my children. This comment could be paragraph upon paragraph but I'll just say a little more. Take care of you. Ultimately, that is what will be most important when it comes to your kids. Their dad is responsible for himself. All you can be is their constant. By taking care of you, that makes you the best possible person you can be for them. Now, if he is really out here doxxing people, you can't put yourself in the position of looking like you're ignoring his behavior by trying to help him, you know what I mean? Also, he has quite obviously offended people that are very close to you and asking them to be around him in order for him to make ammends isnt fair to them. It seems to me that stephen keeps you in this roundabout because he is too confident in the fact that you wont walk away from him totally. Sometimes we end up giving the people we care about too many chances. Its quite obvious that he still views you as his fall back, comfort space and that is very obviously affecting you. Its ok to love someone from far away. I wish you the best. Letting go is hard as hell but its so worth it, trust me ❤
It's because you have a heart. You two built a life together. You will always have a piece of you with him ect. You are doing the best you can and you are validated in your feelings. You can still love from a distance. You just need to put up boundaries for your mental health.. whatever they may be.. it's for you.. you come first (as well as your children obviously) and not him anymore.
Maybe you should also do a few podcasts with the people he has hurt? give them a voice too? Idk. He has his own platform to make amends on, its not your responsibility and I worry it will be viewed as enabling. Especially if he is still doing things that hurt other people.
@@elinchristensen4854 Very true. I thought about that too. I should have said that if she is going to upload this podcast with him then maybe she should give the people he has hurt a chance to speak as well, but my first advice would honestly be to not even upload the podcast and put herself into it. Especially after getting that message from his ex. He can make amends on his own platforms.
I'm not saying this to be mean, just another point of view. I used to really enjoy watching Stephen. I no longer do because, he is a nut! He said things that even though not directly pointed towards me per se, but was in general quite hurtful! I felt like I would not be the "kind" of person he would like even on a basic level! I sure hope the kids never pick up on that from him because, it won't be good for them! I would have never ever think he would think or feel those things towards people in general. He needs some help, big time!
Exactly! There are so many nuts that have done terrible tings to family because of "love". I wound not trust him a bit while he is so unstable and unable to propriatly operate his own life. Stop mothering him Laura, you are not responsible for him. He has to deal with this to learn from it all.
So you are his therapist? You have a medical degree? All you are hearing is Laura’s side. Stephen is not able to give his side. Good grief, how sophomoric can you women be.
I’m so sorry this is weighing heavily on your heart! You and Chris had a lot of courage to do the podcast. As a lesbian, there was definitely a lot that Stephen said that was misinformed and hurtful. I would love to see him grow and apologize for things he said last year and glad even to hear he is wanting to make amends. I’ve always loved you both and your sweet family! Happy belated 50th to Stephen!
You are such a sweet and loving soul. The only person who can make Stephen change is Stephen. Alot of us don't think he's a terrible person however he's making some terrible choices which is 100% on him. Just keep being the best Laura you can be and taking care of those beautiful babies❤. Also happy birthday Stephen 🎉 be the best Stephen you can be!
His addiction has still got you reeled in. It’s a vicious cycle. You want the best for your kids, and in doing that, you need to worry about you. His recovery is his responsibility.
I didnt realize you worked with Chris! I love him! I watch him on Shanes podcast and videos! I love that you two humans know eachother! ❤️ You are both such sweet souls ❤️
You were a piece of the puzzle that helped me realize my marriage was so over and i needed to be brave and let go of my feelings of responsibility for my ex.
💜 these situations are so hard to navigate & there is no one specific way to do it 💜 yYou are allowed to care about someone’s wellbeing without having to be an active participant. Protect your peace, even if it makes others uncomfortable. Your only responsibility is towards yourself & your babies. Stephen is a grown adult who need to build his own support system outside of you - especially now that you are no longer a couple. Take it day by day, moment by moment & there is no timeline on how to work through life things like this. All the love from 🇨🇦 💜✨💜
What Stephen does, says, behaves, how he conducts himself has an effect on your children. That's a justifiable reason for concern.❤ Protect your boundaries and your children too
You’re a great Momma and woman, Laura. I love that you share your journey and the real shit storm that is life and how to try and navigate. It’s not easy, ever. But your integrity, love and dedication to your family is unwavering. Always remember your anchor. Be the palm tree. It will bend and touch the ground in the storms of life, but it cannot and will not be uprooted. That anchor is your inner voice and strength and gut that always knows your truth. Always listen to that. Be the palm tree. 🌴 ❤❤ Sending tons of love to you.
Laura your doing a great job girl it’s stressful and I know how you feel about being responsible for someone I’m still going thru that but at the end of the day these are grown people they have to want to change and it seems to be going that way keep going queen I love you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I know he doxxed one person's user name on Reddit and also threw some woman named Addie and also Georgia (Della's sister) under the bus as well. She never said anything bad about him on Reddit. Said he found her on IG, slid into the DMs, and then came the love bombing and talks, up until she was dumped for Della. As far as talking about his kids, she said he seemed to talk about Alfie more at the time they were communicating. So basically, he doxxed more than one woman to different degrees because they decided to talk about their side of the story in dealing with him.
It’s so sad that Stephen is already trash talking Chris after pretending to make amends. Chris was unbelievably patient and understanding to even agree to this in the first place. If you can’t set boundaries for yourself, think of people like Chris who your ex seems to have no problem hurting and set boundaries for his sake. Stephen’s apology was not genuine, and his own behavior since then proves it. Remember that Maya Angelou quote - “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
I saw that too. I genuinely hope this podcast never gets released because not only did Stephen talk smack about Chris, he also said his only regret about last year was putting his views on mainstream media. Stephen played Laura and I truly hope she doesn't let him do it again.
My former partner and father of my youngest children was caught doing very inappropriate things. As a result, we are separated, and he sees the children minimally, I share a lot of the same conflicting feelings. But I'm slowly starting to realize that I'm hindering my own healing and progress by holding on to it. If we let go and see how they handle things without our interjections, that will show the truth of the matter I feel. Their actions will speak volumes. On a side note, LEGALIZE things for your peace of mind and your children's wellbeing and MAKE IT POLICE ENFORCEABLE
I think as a woman with a platform you set the stage for several women. Regardless of the fact he's the father of your child. You need to set clear boundries and stand firm, itll teach your children to do that as well. They are sponges and absorb whats around them.
Hope springs eternal. It is what it is Laura, not what you wanted it to be. He remains unwell. As you said, you have very few boundaries. Not a criticism, just agreeing. He is a master manipulator as I wrote so often last year. You truly will find your way through this insanity. Stay safe for you and the children. Make sure you are as safe as you can be today. Maybe bring another few people with you. He is possibly abusing the AA steps.😢
I agree, he's a master manipulator and craves his cult following that he lost because he went too far with his insane monstrous hateful content... He changes so quickly. I wouldn't even trust him with my kids. Kudos to Laura For trying. But this isn't her problem. He'll do anything to get likes. And he still on that right wing platform , what's he saying over there ?
Attention of any sorts seems to be his new addiction whether it comes from kindness or negativity. Unfortunately he took the negativity route for higher shock value and hurt a lot of people along the way. People can change but he does not need anymore spotlight on this matter.
You are not responsible for him. I know you don't want your kids to be hurt but what are you teaching them by putting up with his self destructive behavior? Would you want your daughter to do the same with her husband? You have to protect them
Omg it's Chris B from Shane's podcast!!! I'm so happy he's in your life too because he seems like an amazing person and friend. I'm also going thru a separation/divorce and wish I had my own Chris ❤
Coming from personal experience, no one’s divorce journey is yours. And there’s no way we could live the ideal or right path in moving through it. If you’re worrying about whether you’re doing the right way just remember there’s no such thing. Whatever feels good and safe to you is the way it should be. I know it’s hard and each step is new but it is so wonderful to see you continuing to keep the family together. 💗
you had children with a very bad person and thats a hard pill to swallow. He is not a good strong man. Im sorry. You dont want to be known as united with someone as manipulative and as un truthful as HIM. He is absolutely destroying you now. He destroyed the trust, destroyed the commitment and if you let him continue to lie and bamboozle you, he WILL rot your children.
Stephen has his own platforms he could 'make ammends' on ... but you let him use yours with far more followers. Stephen has all his hate content cataloged on his new website and just this week said he intends to post more on Rumble ... not on mainstream where he got deplatformed. So essentially Laura you have helped try to rebrand him and replatform him through your interview. Currently he is still telling people his higher power sends him messages through scribbling in a book with his non-dominant hand and that his music can cure cancer and mental illness. He is preying on weak and vulnerable people who are inwell and is asking them to subscribe to his website to "be cured".
I think it’s very important to be clear with your boundaries and allow graceful progress on any level if your gut says to. Allowing him the opportunity to speak on your podcast is wonderful and if he chooses to disrespect that and or not stay true to his words that he expresses it’s no reflection on you Laura at all. Best case scenario he starts on a healthy healing journey for himself and worst case scenario he looses the option to ever be welcome on your public forum again. I think it’s worth giving him the opportunity to speak and be heard if he’s requesting it, we all fall and sometimes having the support to get back up is what makes the difference!
You Care WAY !!!! too much about what other people think and Say and that’s sad 😞 . You Do what makes you happy !! I would say and believe that’s loving and having peace within your Family and Steven’s a huge part of that .?? So if your good with each other screw the shity grumpy grudge holders that aren’t apart of your Everyday life . ❤️❤️❤️ Love wins and Love always finds a way !!!
Laura you are just too much... of a good person with a kind heart. I also believe he is but he's really confused and lost, I really hope he can thrive I have no doubt you and your beautiful children will.
So proud of you Laura. I’m in OA, mostly because of you sharing about AA in your podcast. You’re making a difference for people like me. It’s not all black and white. I really appreciate you and this. Bless you 💗
God you’re a really good person and I believe he is too. I haven’t kept up with him a while … did he relapse ?? I just adore that you both put your kids first. AMEN. And no you can’t control him Laura. ❤❤❤❤
Laura, you yourself are in recovery. It's a long hard road for anyone struggling with addiction. Please do not lose yourself in trying to help or fix Stephens mistakes. They are his own. He is a grown man and he has to own his actions. That is totally on him. You have 2 beautiful children that love and need you. They need your attention and care because they are just little wee ones. Please try to take care of yourself and your mental health. I know you must be so confused and stressed out but the only people you need to take care of are your 2 little blessings and yourself. Leave the baggage at the door where it belongs. Try not to carry it with you because it will weigh you down and consume you. You are an amazing person. Never forget that this community is here rooting for you and supporting you. Much love and respect!!
If he wants to apologize for the things that he has said and done in his videos, he needs to do it on his social media. Not sure why you feel like you need to have him on yours.
I came to the comments to see if her son had been diagnosed as autistic. I thought I saw some telltale traits. I’m new to her content but so far Stephen seems to be a complete narcissist.
You aren't responsible for his spiral, love. The only people you're responsible for is yourself and your kids. You don't need a third child in the form of a 50 yo adult. When he wants to take accountability and chill out then you can be more open. Set boundaries.
I am so proud of you. You are love and light. I commend you for co-parenting under such difficult circumstances. I would caution to make sure your boundaries are clear and are being honored. Sometimes that means you need to pull back. Another commenter mentioned making sure your cup is full before pouring into others (after caring for yourself, kids and life responsibilities). I couldn't agree more. You've got a huge cheerleadering squad that is putting energy into your success (mentally, physically, emotionally and life overall). Love you tons!!!
Steven is responsible for his own actions, not you. What he says, what he does are his own choices. Just keep making positive choices in your own life and if it dosent involve your kiddos, ignore whatever dumpster fire steven has started
At the end of day, your gonna do what you wanna do. Nobody can make us do anything. You follow your 💜 heart. Everyone will comment what they feel you should do but again you laura will do what you want to. My opinion dont matter, but it you want to co parent and want him to get better, i am a recoverd addict and know this sometimes you must let the loved one go that needs helpso they can hit rock bottom so they can see they are really needing to change and also they can either get up and fix themselves or they can stay down. But you do you boo Laura
Don’t let this guy use your podcast to rehab his image. Eventually what he’s doing in the dark will come to light, and associating with him professionally will only drag your career into whatever bullshit he gets caught doing. Keep your work entirely separate from him.
Okay girl, I am diving in with you. You keep being suggested in my life and your introduction came during an EXTREME EMOTIONAL/PHYSICAL EVENT in my life and now 2 years later (after reading almost all of your first book), at a more relaxed time in my life. I am not sure the reason but am super grateful because your realness and comedic attitude is bringing back my sense of calamity and positivity on another level.
I was in an abusive marriage 25 years ago. I never told many people because of our kids and also because I was worried about ‘his state of mind’. I have had people talk ill of me and blame me because they don’t know the facts but there’s this empathic side of me that still thought he would amend and do better (he didn’t). I completely get what you mean about seeing the good in him but he’s an adult he made the decision to say those things so please let him make his own amends and you concentrate on yourself and those beautiful children and let Stephen face his own consequences. You care because you are empathic and a kind soul and that’s not a bad thing but if you get anxiety like that, that’s not doing you any good. Look after you! xx
You do not need to handle Stephen. Stephen needs to handle Stephen. In fact stepping back and letting him handle Stephen is actually the most loving thing you can do for him and most important you. It’s ok to love him though it, but step back so he can grow through what he goes through.
I know part of you will always love him because he is forever part of your family and that's ok. It is also ok to love someone from a distance and not support their tomfoolery. He gave you your children but he isn't a child. It is ok to let him lay in the bed he made for himself. He is an adult, and although the consequences of his actions may suck you are not responsible for them. You are free to be as involved or pulled back as you want to be on his path going forward. But I encourage you to ensure that your cup is full before you start pouring much out for others (aside from your kids, obviously). You have 2 kids, yourself, a household, and a career to manage, don't take on more than feels right for you.
You are not only doing the right thing for your kids but you are in no way responsible for his actions. As a fan I’m here in the comments to support everything you say and do. You are an amazing human and a wonderful mother. Thank you for all your positive affirmations and positive energy. Just thank you. 🙏
You support everything she says and does? I don't even support everything my kid says and does. To blindly say that to someone you have never met is crazy. She's an internet personality who lives in CALIFORNIA. Who hardly ever lets anyone speak without interrupting. To be honest I hate that she popped back up on my feed.
Omg, I LOVE Chris. Hearing him talk that way BREAKS MY HEART! He is probably one of the sweetest Humans on UA-cam. So gentle and caring; He’s guarded for sure- because, even his tone is different in this video. 😢
LOVE YOU CHRIS!!
You are not in any way responsible for his actions! You are only responsible for your own and right now for your children. He alone is responsible for his choices. You certainly did not appear to be doing anything to indicate that you approved of his behavior which is the only way that it would involve you at all.
I agree...I really like Steven but if he feels as if he needs to apologies he can do so on his own podcast don't be moved by quilt it is okay to live your life it is okay you met someone..you are both very wise and good people and as a family I am certain all your hopes will be obtained but let yourself off the hook and from now on don't do things that make you uncomfortable ...love and light
People say nasty things when their hurt so let him apologize also People do change that was last year! Also two sides to every situation
She’s not listening. It is well over a year, nearer to 2 years. People have tried consistently to help her and she has been unable to take any sound advice from anyone on here. Why would she keep doing things with her ex in the most recent videos as of late? I can’t believe she really loves him as she still says over and over again after all he has done and said to her at every turn. And still embarrassing and diminishing her near to every time he comes near. And giving an ex a key to your home? She definitely needs to change all the locks on every single door of her home.
Yes! ❤
@@susie_q1 you can’t believe someone who has had children with this person who has saw him rise and fall who has spent time with him privately who has loved him who has married him who had an entire life you can’t believe she could still have love for him….. weird
Chris is the sweetest and I have to admit that I did a quick inhale audibly when, after seeing Chris' reaction and reading his body lanuage in the studio area while you were prepping with him, that when Stephen came in with arms outstretched looking for a hug hello from him... I hope Chris was ok with that. I'm sure I'm not up to date with everything between you all, but I do hope Stephen had a great birthday and you all feel good about the day overall. I look forward to the podcast. Wishing everyone the best.
Yes we all need to know if Chris hugged Stephen LoL
@@MissNikkiDawson I am convinced he didnt and thats why the footage cuts XD
Laura shouldn't have EVER put Chris in a situation where he was with Stephen. Knowing the hate he spewed, if she has any respect for Chris, she would stop trying to fix Stephen, he's shown us who he really is.
He didn't hug Stephen and that is fine. He rejected Stephen's amends and that should have been fine since this is all supposedly for Stephen's sobriety and Step 8. However, Stephen went straight to TikTok live to say awful things about Chris and to tell anyone listening he gave Chris his career. Stephen and Chris, according to Stephen, had some private beef and Chris is gay so he was very hurt by things Stephen said to him personally about gay people and being gay. Chris doesn't owe Stephen anything.
@shadowpuppet0312 thanks for your comment. I didn't realize Stephen said anything about Chris like that after this. How disappointing. 😞
This makes me feel happy, Laura. I know the podcast was so hard - but I do see the joy in his face with the kids. He’s still in there somewhere and coming back so he can be a good co-parent and dad. You’re doing amazing, mama!
I really like Chris, he seems like a kind and genuine person, and I hope he got the apologies he deserves.
Also, he showed his new girlfriend on TikTok Live today. He basically told her the camera wasn't pointed at her, but it was at an optimal angle and broadcasted them on a video call with her best friend. He mumbled that he was on live, but after the camera comment I'm not sure if she knows what was happening. Then when people asked him about it, he said she knew and then ignored it.
He was all riled up at the time from the comments on the "I'm a cheater" video at the time. He is a loose cannon with anyone he is close to for if he will use them. Her today, arguing with you on live, using Poppy to say "I want my family back" for Christmas while he was already courting this new girl..... It's just a lot.
It is alot. He may be grabbing at straws. When there are non left people tend to make some more. It's disgusting to see the lengths people will go to not have anymore control at all. In any way ever again. Went through it with my ex. It shows in their behavior afterwards even more when they finally blow their gasket at the realization of control lose.
Oh wow that is so sad using his kids to get his agenda across.
Girl, your feelings are spot on. Love is crazy and complicated. You're absolutely allowed to continue to love Stephen while still disagreeing with his words and actions. You built a family, and spent many years together, and that's a super difficult, if not impossible, relationship to just cut out.
From what I've seen over the years, you seem like such a sweet, genuine person, and I hope that you're able to find a nice peaceful middle ground in the middle of all the chaos because you deserve it.
You are a kind, loving, and strong woman. Period.
And "Beautiful" I might add ❤️
He has his own podcast for a reason, if he doesn't know how to run it, why let him ruin yours ??
Your HP “grants” you the serenity to accept things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. (Don’t do for them, what they can do for themselves.) You’re a rockstar, Laura.
He is an adult. He made his choices. Let the consequences if his actions work. Women always feel responsable for the mens fails. Stop. You are not his mom. He must face the consequences by himself. Period.
Let him make his amends on his own Laura. Stay out of it. It's okay to love him and love things about him but you gotta live your life and have your peace. Steven is not all bad but you don't owe him anything. Showing him respect, compassion and compromise is plenty. Let him navigate life on his own and if it doesn't pertain to the kids or their immediate well being then let it be. Not your monkey, not your circus.
this!
Yes! Amen!
But 'amends' for what? What specific words or phrases did he use to present his views and where can this be confirmed? NO ONE can say. Why is that?
@@AstrologicalToolsgo look at his “hate” page. All the receipts are there. I think you are too blinkered to see the truth though.
@AstrologicalTools if he feels he owes an Amends clearly he knows he has done or said something that wasn't right
Chris is such a sweetheart ❤
Old school videos of you and Stephen are classic.. I miss that. You cant control what happens. It wont work. Let it go.
We are in the middle of an autistic diagnosis on my 2.5 year old daughter and your videos with your kiddos help me so much. Watching how engaged Poppy is reminds me so much of my 1 year old son. One of the things that hits hardest for me is seeing how our son gets so excited and wants to be so involved and our daughter is still very withdrawn and mostly non-verbal while he’s starting to chat up a storm. I don’t know why, but your video, reminded me of the difference between my 2 and comforted me to know I am not alone in this journey. This is hard. I have no experience parenting a child with autism and every day is a learning experience where I just want to do right by her but I don’t always know what right is.
You do you and let him do what he needs to do. Much love to you both xx
I'm in a similar situation myself right now but unfortunately I'm "the Stephen" in oir situation because I made some bad choices and lied about them to my wife and violated her trust. And now I'm doing much better (thanks to therapy and going back to church and a lot of love and aupport) and *I* know that I've changed but there's no way to prove that to anyone. I did such a good job of lying in the past that its almost impossible to trust me again 😞 so now my wife has to protect herself and put up boundaries and this is really hurting me but I don't blame her, this is all a direct result of my actions. Its just a painful situation for everyone. Like Laura, I definitely feel sorry for Stephen and hope he is changing/will change, but also know that trust takes time to rebuild and forgiving too soon will only hurt both people.
So... I'm sorry you guys are going through this, I applaud Laura for being patient and willing to forgive and I hope Stephen is sincerely committed to improving.
Wonderful share, i wish you all the best in this life. Filled with love&connection and spirtual protection mate x
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Laura,
You have a good heart and you're an awesome mom. Do what you think is going to bring you peace.
Chris is such a sweet soul. And like everyone else says, we cannot control other’s destructive behaviors. My husband has a SA to 🌽 and it’s been the hardest thing I’ve ever had to deal with. He has a good heart as well but cannot stop. I’ve realized after 34 years that there is a limit to the support.
i feel you on the not being able to control him , especially when hes alone with your kids. I know that he needs to play a part in your kid's life and you need to be amicable , but you are not together and you do not need to think about him or care about him in the way that you used to. you have to care more about yourself than you do about how you make him feel- thats not an issue anymore. just be polite. but keep your walls up when hes around. stay safe and happy and just do you. he misses the connection but its not his business to get up in yours.
Laura your a good person and a great Mom. I have to tell you Poppy just melts my heart when she talks such a little sweetheart. Chris is such a nice person.
I'm so proud of you and the kids, you've all grown and thrived through hard circumstances and times.. The babies are beautiful and I commend you for having the will and heart to maintain a co-parenting relationship that is based on love and planted in healthy soil.. Keep striving and growing.. You got this girl!! ✊🏾❤
He'll never change, he went for me in one of his earlier videos and then set his followers on another woman who had to come off social media entirely. He can't change because he doesn't want to.
Just carry on doing what's best for you and the kids and leave him to his own devices
Damn, I had no idea there was so much drama. Always loved your content and your family. ❤
Where can I listen to this podcast ?
Laura ~ So beautiful you could rIse above everything and celebrate 🥳 Stephen's 50th birthday with the kids; so precious you made it so special for him & your children 🥰
I love Chris...You are not responsible Laura for what Stephen says or does,unless it involves you and or your kids..Love you Laura.
You absolutely made the correct choice in choosing divorce. I didn’t want to accept that for a while and wanted you guys to pull through, but there’s something off about him…and I’m not just saying that because he has controversial opinions. There’s just something off.
And I feel for Chris, who you mentioned. I’m also gay. And when Stephen posted that meme or whatever you’d call it on his IG and ridiculed the Rainbow flag, that’s when he finally got a block from me. It wasn’t behavior I would *ever* expect from him and made me feel like the person I was getting to know through my screen over the years was absolutely all a facade.
He’s a good person, at heart.
But there is something very off about him. And it’s not your job to fix that, Laura.
That might very likely be the autism. An ex bf was like that. I was with him for too long I realize now.
He’s been full of hate for the last 2yrs or so. Apparently when Alfie got diagnosed with autism, he blamed it on the vaccines (🙄), and spiraled from there to be completely conspiracy theory right winged anti lgbtqia+, anti semetic, anti BLM, racist, bigot, just all the things. He’s posted truly heinous and unhinged content since the divorce. 😳
❤ it’s hard especially when there are children you want to try and do everything to fix things but t be careful with that it can quickly turn into codependency. You got this Mama ❤
Both can be true! You can want your family together and not agree with his actions. Any person ultimately would want to see their kids have a healthy coparent situation. You’re an amazing person and no one can take that.
Laura this made my cry! ❤ You and your children are a great example of what unconditional love really looks like. I wish more people could act like this during and after a divorce! You’re a class act! ❤Great job! Keep the faith and follow your gut always!
That was a beautiful share - thank you for giving us this glimpse into your lives.❤
For me, When I get anxiety…that’s my body telling me something is off and to listen to that.
Agreed, for me, it's often my fight,flight, and flee response.
Now that’s the best I’ve seen you interact with him keeping it positive and encouraging the kids to be their cute selves !! So happy!! I still pray you two get back together !! I almost left my husband in 2018/9 and I stuck it out as hard as it was at times I’m glad I did, he just turned 51 and then suddenly died in front of my youngest son and I and I’m so broken!! I miss him so much but I’m thankful for the many laughs and hugs and fun and love before he was suddenly gone! I would have had so many more regrets I just know it!! The empath in me would have crumbled even more! Love this version of you!! Like when you listened to his music before your show. Love him for the unique guy who adores you and is a great loving dad !! Because trust me you could have it so much worse !!!
Laura, you're doing an amazing job with those kiddos ❤ listen. You aren't responsible for Stephen's actions or his making ammends. I'm not usually commenting on things but I can relate to this on a very intimate level. It took me too many years of doing exactly what you're doing for the father of my girls. I saw his goodness. I saw his potential. It took me too long to leave the relationship, it took me so much longer to let go of this sense of responsibility I had for him because he was the father of my children. This comment could be paragraph upon paragraph but I'll just say a little more. Take care of you. Ultimately, that is what will be most important when it comes to your kids. Their dad is responsible for himself. All you can be is their constant. By taking care of you, that makes you the best possible person you can be for them. Now, if he is really out here doxxing people, you can't put yourself in the position of looking like you're ignoring his behavior by trying to help him, you know what I mean? Also, he has quite obviously offended people that are very close to you and asking them to be around him in order for him to make ammends isnt fair to them. It seems to me that stephen keeps you in this roundabout because he is too confident in the fact that you wont walk away from him totally. Sometimes we end up giving the people we care about too many chances. Its quite obvious that he still views you as his fall back, comfort space and that is very obviously affecting you. Its ok to love someone from far away. I wish you the best. Letting go is hard as hell but its so worth it, trust me ❤
Laura your children are so adorable and just as sweet as can be. ❤
The "get my family back" video w Poppy proves Steven's manipulative behavior. I hope he truly gets help and Laura and the kids can stay safe
That is Parenting Done Right!
Teaching Children to Love.
You concentrate on those wonderful kids. They are amazing. Hugs and prayers!! Not a fun thing to go through.
It's because you have a heart. You two built a life together. You will always have a piece of you with him ect. You are doing the best you can and you are validated in your feelings. You can still love from a distance. You just need to put up boundaries for your mental health.. whatever they may be.. it's for you.. you come first (as well as your children obviously) and not him anymore.
You have the answer Laura, your anxiety is your gut instinct. Boundaries are paramount. Much love to you❤
Laura, you probably already know this or have been told this but Al-Anon could help you a lot with detaching from Steven. Love you honey
Maybe you should also do a few podcasts with the people he has hurt? give them a voice too? Idk. He has his own platform to make amends on, its not your responsibility and I worry it will be viewed as enabling. Especially if he is still doing things that hurt other people.
That is a very very sensible smart and kind idea!!!
On the other hand - it would be continuing to feed into Stephen's life and agenda and that might not be healthy for you or the kiddos 🤔
@@elinchristensen4854 Very true. I thought about that too. I should have said that if she is going to upload this podcast with him then maybe she should give the people he has hurt a chance to speak as well, but my first advice would honestly be to not even upload the podcast and put herself into it. Especially after getting that message from his ex. He can make amends on his own platforms.
@@Alisha8596 I agree
I'm not saying this to be mean, just another point of view. I used to really enjoy watching Stephen. I no longer do because, he is a nut! He said things that even though not directly pointed towards me per se, but was in general quite hurtful! I felt like I would not be the "kind" of person he would like even on a basic level! I sure hope the kids never pick up on that from him because, it won't be good for them! I would have never ever think he would think or feel those things towards people in general. He needs some help, big time!
Me too. I unsubbed from him awhile ago because I was pretty sure he was having some type of mental health breakdown
I can relate with this so much. You aren't responsible for his actions. You have good intentions.
Stephen has not been stable for a long time .
You need to protect you and the children.
You are not responsible for him.
Exactly! There are so many nuts that have done terrible tings to family because of "love". I wound not trust him a bit while he is so unstable and unable to propriatly operate his own life. Stop mothering him Laura, you are not responsible for him. He has to deal with this to learn from it all.
So you are his therapist? You have a medical degree? All you are hearing is Laura’s side. Stephen is not able to give his side. Good grief, how sophomoric can you women be.
I’m so sorry this is weighing heavily on your heart! You and Chris had a lot of courage to do the podcast. As a lesbian, there was definitely a lot that Stephen said that was misinformed and hurtful. I would love to see him grow and apologize for things he said last year and glad even to hear he is wanting to make amends. I’ve always loved you both and your sweet family! Happy belated 50th to Stephen!
The "Happy Birthday" from Poppy😊😊😊😊
That was so precious when she gave him the flowers that were almost as tall as she is! 😊💐
You are such a sweet and loving soul. The only person who can make Stephen change is Stephen. Alot of us don't think he's a terrible person however he's making some terrible choices which is 100% on him. Just keep being the best Laura you can be and taking care of those beautiful babies❤. Also happy birthday Stephen 🎉 be the best Stephen you can be!
You mean you’re completely, and totally fine with someone that is obviously transphobic? A lot more TERFs in this fandom than I thought.
His addiction has still got you reeled in. It’s a vicious cycle. You want the best for your kids, and in doing that, you need to worry about you. His recovery is his responsibility.
Is it love or pity? (ACOA)
The children certainly love their father and they deserve to express that love.
I didnt realize you worked with Chris! I love him! I watch him on Shanes podcast and videos! I love that you two humans know eachother! ❤️ You are both such sweet souls ❤️
You were a piece of the puzzle that helped me realize my marriage was so over and i needed to be brave and let go of my feelings of responsibility for my ex.
💜 these situations are so hard to navigate & there is no one specific way to do it 💜
yYou are allowed to care about someone’s wellbeing without having to be an active participant. Protect your peace, even if it makes others uncomfortable. Your only responsibility is towards yourself & your babies. Stephen is a grown adult who need to build his own support system outside of you - especially now that you are no longer a couple.
Take it day by day, moment by moment & there is no timeline on how to work through life things like this.
All the love from 🇨🇦 💜✨💜
What Stephen does, says, behaves, how he conducts himself has an effect on your children. That's a justifiable reason for concern.❤ Protect your boundaries and your children too
Ohhh CHRIS!! i just realized he is part of your crew! I adore him and you!
Hes only doing this on your channel to take advantage of the large amount of followers. Hes using you.
And also to avoid pissing off the audience that he gained by being hateful
Bless u and ur friend I feel for u and the kids
Personally I really love seeing you co parenting with him. I like watching you guys doing podcasts together.
You’re a great Momma and woman, Laura. I love that you share your journey and the real shit storm that is life and how to try and navigate. It’s not easy, ever. But your integrity, love and dedication to your family is unwavering. Always remember your anchor. Be the palm tree. It will bend and touch the ground in the storms of life, but it cannot and will not be uprooted. That anchor is your inner voice and strength and gut that always knows your truth. Always listen to that.
Be the palm tree. 🌴 ❤❤
Sending tons of love to you.
Laura your doing a great job girl it’s stressful and I know how you feel about being responsible for someone I’m still going thru that but at the end of the day these are grown people they have to want to change and it seems to be going that way keep going queen I love you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I know he doxxed one person's user name on Reddit and also threw some woman named Addie and also Georgia (Della's sister) under the bus as well.
She never said anything bad about him on Reddit. Said he found her on IG, slid into the DMs, and then came the love bombing and talks, up until she was dumped for Della. As far as talking about his kids, she said he seemed to talk about Alfie more at the time they were communicating. So basically, he doxxed more than one woman to different degrees because they decided to talk about their side of the story in dealing with him.
What does doxxed mean?
It’s so sad that Stephen is already trash talking Chris after pretending to make amends. Chris was unbelievably patient and understanding to even agree to this in the first place. If you can’t set boundaries for yourself, think of people like Chris who your ex seems to have no problem hurting and set boundaries for his sake. Stephen’s apology was not genuine, and his own behavior since then proves it. Remember that Maya Angelou quote - “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
Yep. Gotta move on it's not just self destructive it's destructive and violent against people.
I saw that too. I genuinely hope this podcast never gets released because not only did Stephen talk smack about Chris, he also said his only regret about last year was putting his views on mainstream media. Stephen played Laura and I truly hope she doesn't let him do it again.
My former partner and father of my youngest children was caught doing very inappropriate things. As a result, we are separated, and he sees the children minimally, I share a lot of the same conflicting feelings. But I'm slowly starting to realize that I'm hindering my own healing and progress by holding on to it. If we let go and see how they handle things without our interjections, that will show the truth of the matter I feel. Their actions will speak volumes. On a side note, LEGALIZE things for your peace of mind and your children's wellbeing and MAKE IT POLICE ENFORCEABLE
I think as a woman with a platform you set the stage for several women. Regardless of the fact he's the father of your child. You need to set clear boundries and stand firm, itll teach your children to do that as well. They are sponges and absorb whats around them.
Hope springs eternal. It is what it is Laura, not what you wanted it to be. He remains unwell. As you said, you have very few boundaries. Not a criticism, just agreeing. He is a master manipulator as I wrote so often last year. You truly will find your way through this insanity. Stay safe for you and the children. Make sure you are as safe as you can be today. Maybe bring another few people with you. He is possibly abusing the AA steps.😢
I agree, he's a master manipulator and craves his cult following that he lost because he went too far with his insane monstrous hateful content... He changes so quickly. I wouldn't even trust him with my kids. Kudos to Laura For trying. But this isn't her problem. He'll do anything to get likes. And he still on that right wing platform , what's he saying over there ?
Attention of any sorts seems to be his new addiction whether it comes from kindness or negativity. Unfortunately he took the negativity route for higher shock value and hurt a lot of people along the way. People can change but he does not need anymore spotlight on this matter.
You are not responsible for him. I know you don't want your kids to be hurt but what are you teaching them by putting up with his self destructive behavior? Would you want your daughter to do the same with her husband? You have to protect them
Omg it's Chris B from Shane's podcast!!! I'm so happy he's in your life too because he seems like an amazing person and friend. I'm also going thru a separation/divorce and wish I had my own Chris ❤
I respect you for trying still Laura and for trying to work with Stephen no matter what
Laura, just work out what your boundaries are and go with that. If you feel they’ve been crossed then just protect yourself.
I’m just sending you love girl. That’s a heavy weight on your shoulders & I’m glad you have a good support system. 💙💙💙
You made me cry Laura ! You really are a good person ❤
Cant wait to watch the podcast
Do you know what channel that podcast will be on? Her Idiot podcast or UA-cam? Thanks.
@@susie_q1 on her idiot podcast here on UA-cam is where i watch 😊
Wow ! Congrats on expressing all of that ❤
And it probably gets to you because of the kids
Laura, you are truly a class act!
She is absolutely a doll
Coming from personal experience, no one’s divorce journey is yours. And there’s no way we could live the ideal or right path in moving through it. If you’re worrying about whether you’re doing the right way just remember there’s no such thing. Whatever feels good and safe to you is the way it should be. I know it’s hard and each step is new but it is so wonderful to see you continuing to keep the family together. 💗
you had children with a very bad person and thats a hard pill to swallow. He is not a good strong man. Im sorry. You dont want to be known as united with someone as manipulative and as un truthful as HIM. He is absolutely destroying you now. He destroyed the trust, destroyed the commitment and if you let him continue to lie and bamboozle you, he WILL rot your children.
Stephen has his own platforms he could 'make ammends' on ... but you let him use yours with far more followers. Stephen has all his hate content cataloged on his new website and just this week said he intends to post more on Rumble ... not on mainstream where he got deplatformed.
So essentially Laura you have helped try to rebrand him and replatform him through your interview.
Currently he is still telling people his higher power sends him messages through scribbling in a book with his non-dominant hand and that his music can cure cancer and mental illness. He is preying on weak and vulnerable people who are inwell and is asking them to subscribe to his website to "be cured".
Damn. Honest question - I wonder if he’s schizophrenic?
Trust your intuition. It's okay to make the decisions you feel best about with no guilt.
I think it’s very important to be clear with your boundaries and allow graceful progress on any level if your gut says to. Allowing him the opportunity to speak on your podcast is wonderful and if he chooses to disrespect that and or not stay true to his words that he expresses it’s no reflection on you Laura at all. Best case scenario he starts on a healthy healing journey for himself and worst case scenario he looses the option to ever be welcome on your public forum again. I think it’s worth giving him the opportunity to speak and be heard if he’s requesting it, we all fall and sometimes having the support to get back up is what makes the difference!
You Care WAY !!!! too much about what other people think and Say and that’s sad 😞 .
You Do what makes you happy !! I would say and believe that’s loving and having peace within your Family and Steven’s a huge part of that .?? So if your good with each other screw the shity grumpy grudge holders that aren’t apart of your Everyday life .
❤️❤️❤️ Love wins and Love always finds a way !!!
OMG CHRIS!!!!!!! LOVE LOVE LOVE CHRIS SO MUCH! Fellow pumpkin spice girly!!!
Laura you are just too much... of a good person with a kind heart. I also believe he is but he's really confused and lost, I really hope he can thrive I have no doubt you and your beautiful children will.
I love Poppy's sweet little voice ❤
So proud of you Laura. I’m in OA, mostly because of you sharing about AA in your podcast. You’re making a difference for people like me. It’s not all black and white. I really appreciate you and this. Bless you 💗
Mom to mom…you are doing wonderful ❤️
God you’re a really good person and I believe he is too. I haven’t kept up with him a while … did he relapse ??
I just adore that you both put your kids first. AMEN. And no you can’t control him Laura. ❤❤❤❤
Laura, you yourself are in recovery. It's a long hard road for anyone struggling with addiction. Please do not lose yourself in trying to help or fix Stephens mistakes. They are his own. He is a grown man and he has to own his actions. That is totally on him. You have 2 beautiful children that love and need you. They need your attention and care because they are just little wee ones. Please try to take care of yourself and your mental health. I know you must be so confused and stressed out but the only people you need to take care of are your 2 little blessings and yourself. Leave the baggage at the door where it belongs. Try not to carry it with you because it will weigh you down and consume you. You are an amazing person. Never forget that this community is here rooting for you and supporting you. Much love and respect!!
If he wants to apologize for the things that he has said and done in his videos, he needs to do it on his social media. Not sure why you feel like you need to have him on yours.
Alfie covering his ears for B Day singing...*Classic*.😂❤
It was too loud for him. Of course it was as he has been brought up in a very, very loud home.
@@susie_q1 Its an autism thing my boys do it too when its to loud, I love how she noticed and started singing quieter
I came to the comments to see if her son had been diagnosed as autistic. I thought I saw some telltale traits. I’m new to her content but so far Stephen seems to be a complete narcissist.
You aren't responsible for his spiral, love. The only people you're responsible for is yourself and your kids. You don't need a third child in the form of a 50 yo adult. When he wants to take accountability and chill out then you can be more open. Set boundaries.
I am so proud of you. You are love and light. I commend you for co-parenting under such difficult circumstances. I would caution to make sure your boundaries are clear and are being honored. Sometimes that means you need to pull back. Another commenter mentioned making sure your cup is full before pouring into others (after caring for yourself, kids and life responsibilities). I couldn't agree more. You've got a huge cheerleadering squad that is putting energy into your success (mentally, physically, emotionally and life overall). Love you tons!!!
Steven is responsible for his own actions, not you. What he says, what he does are his own choices. Just keep making positive choices in your own life and if it dosent involve your kiddos, ignore whatever dumpster fire steven has started
At the end of day, your gonna do what you wanna do. Nobody can make us do anything. You follow your 💜 heart. Everyone will comment what they feel you should do but again you laura will do what you want to. My opinion dont matter, but it you want to co parent and want him to get better, i am a recoverd addict and know this sometimes you must let the loved one go that needs helpso they can hit rock bottom so they can see they are really needing to change and also they can either get up and fix themselves or they can stay down. But you do you boo Laura
Don’t let this guy use your podcast to rehab his image. Eventually what he’s doing in the dark will come to light, and associating with him professionally will only drag your career into whatever bullshit he gets caught doing. Keep your work entirely separate from him.
Okay girl, I am diving in with you. You keep being suggested in my life and your introduction came during an EXTREME EMOTIONAL/PHYSICAL EVENT in my life and now 2 years later (after reading almost all of your first book), at a more relaxed time in my life. I am not sure the reason but am super grateful because your realness and comedic attitude is bringing back my sense of calamity and positivity on another level.
I was in an abusive marriage 25 years ago. I never told many people because of our kids and also because I was worried about ‘his state of mind’. I have had people talk ill of me and blame me because they don’t know the facts but there’s this empathic side of me that still thought he would amend and do better (he didn’t). I completely get what you mean about seeing the good in him but he’s an adult he made the decision to say those things so please let him make his own amends and you concentrate on yourself and those beautiful children and let Stephen face his own consequences. You care because you are empathic and a kind soul and that’s not a bad thing but if you get anxiety like that, that’s not doing you any good. Look after you! xx
You do not need to handle Stephen. Stephen needs to handle Stephen. In fact stepping back and letting him handle Stephen is actually the most loving thing you can do for him and most important you. It’s ok to love him though it, but step back so he can grow through what he goes through.