History Professor REACTS to "Masters of the Air" Official Trailer
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2023
- Join history professor Jared Frederick for an in-depth historical analysis of Apple TV's latest trailer for the much-anticipated WWII miniseries "Masters of the Air." Learn more about his latest book, "Into the Cold Blue," here: www.amazon.com/Into-Cold-Blue-John-Homan/dp/1684515157
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My father was Buck’s Operations Officer, Richard Carey.
He passed away in 1970.
My mother was able to speak with Buck a few times shortly before they passed. He spoke with Mom about his precious wife. She couldn’t be replaced in his heart. It was the same for my mother.
Buck was one of a kind, a colorful character. I’m glad he was chosen to be a part of this film.
God bless the Bloody Hundredth Vets, families, and friends.
Thank you Lucky Luckadoo. Mike Faley,and Carol &Ron Batley for giving us a glimpse into the heroic lives of our Fathers.
Please email us at reelhistory1944@gmail.com if you would like us to bring any stories you have to light.
My Dad was a waist gunner on the Picadilly Lily of the 351st SQ/ 100th BG June to Oct , '43. He surely knew these men. he kept a diary of his experiences with the 100th and his entries are sobering when he lists the names of buddies that did not come back from missions.
Crazy to think I was a freshman in college when they first announced they planned to make this and it’ll release when I’m 30 but better late than never. I’m so excited for this.
Never had a trailer strike me quite so hard. “You may be the last pretty face I see…” It’s one of those humanizing moments in cinema where you remember these were largely kids (or at least to me, I see them as I would have been at their age). Lotta them were young virgins who would stay that way for eternity. The cost becomes much more clear to groundlings like myself.
Well said.
If I had seen the trailer, I would not have wasted 20 minutes watching this steaming pile of crap. It looks like a video game with terrible acting.
Oh boy, I can hardly wait! This looks to be a great series.
My dad was in Europe in WWII. His Division, the 99fh, was in the northern shoulder of the Battle of the Bulge. After the Bulge had been stabilized, the 99th began attacking east into Germany. The weather at that time had cleared but was extremely cold. Dad told me that the soldiers on the ground could hear the rumble of bomber engines before the bomber stream was visible.
In a sight not seen before or since, the hundreds of contrails left in the sky was quite a sight. The extreme cold would condense and leave four distinct lines in the sky for each bomber. Depending on the wind, the contrails might linger in the sky for several minutes after the bomber stream had disappeared.
Interestingly, there was some rivalry between the infantry and the airmen. In the opinion of the foot soldiers, the airmen got faster promotions, more medals and press coverage and most of all, hot food and a warm bed each night.
While some that was true, it gave the American soldier one more thing to gripe about. Enduring the cold and fear on each mission that most air crews experienced was not something that the infantry soldiers would have really wanted.
Looking forward to the series!
The Eighth Air Force crews had hot food and a warm bunk to sleep in at night and the occasional pass to London but they suffered much higher losses than the infantry or even the Marines. My mother had two first cousins in the Mighty Eighth, a navigator and a pilot. Neither survived.
@@lowellwhite1603
My mother had a first cousin that was a navigator on a B24 in the 15th Air Force in Italy, he didn't make it either, shot down on his 20th mission, he was just 20 years old to.
The average age of the air crewmen whether they be in fighter's or bombers was actually younger than the average infantryman but there's a reason for that, from a physiological standpoint once you hit about 24 or 25 you were pretty much washed up for being on an aircraft that operated at high altitude, every day your taking off from relative sea level where the air is thick and warm, 20 minutes later your at 23,000 ft where there's ⅓rd the atmosphere and it's 50° below zero, and worse yet if you're a fighter pilot you're pulling anywhere from 7 to 9 G's while in a dogfight, 30 year olds start passing out at 5 or 6 G's, and their bodies can't take being acclimated to sea level and 20 minutes later being 5 miles above the earth, oxygen masks are one thing but a 30 year old body suddenly being under that much less air pressure can cause nose bleeds, vomiting (neither of which is ideal when you're wearing an oxygen mask), being on an aircrew in those unpressurized WW2 aircraft was a young man's sport.
Wonderful review!! Looking so forward to this series!!!
Thank you!
it occurred to me that one possible reason for them looking older than their age is that they survived the stress of their training. I've seen numbers between 13,000 and 15,000 Air Corps aircrew were lost during training. I recall one of the pilots or navigators in the book mentioning that the first time he saw a B-17 (during training) it crashed on landing, killing everyone on board. The losses were so great, General Arnold kept it the numbers from the press so as not to impact on national morale.
The UA-cam channel "WWII US Bombers" has a series of videos that get very detailed on technical information and events about WWII US bombers.
I remember when I was in high school the movie Memphis Belle came out it was pretty good.
What a legendary movie!!!
I was probably 8 when I watched that movie… I’m 40 now 😮! I’m not joking I’ve watched that movie at least 300 times.
It is currently my 10 year-old son’s favorite movie. Just last week a Harry Connick Jr. Christmas song came on the radio and I told him, “you know the tail gunner from Memphis Belle? This is him singing!”
Kinda neat
The Memphis Belle of the 90's was very entertaining, but kind of sketchy on a lot of the real history. I believe one of the great Hollywood directors made a contemporaneous film by the same name. Should be a DVD of it available somewhere.
@@isleman9473 VERY sketchy on the history, but very entertaining as well.
@@isleman9473yes William Wyler flew on the belle and filmed it, that’s why the Belle gets the limelight, Hells Angels from 303rd BG beat the Belle to 25 by about 4 days, yet B24 Hot Sauce beat them both to 25 but that has sad ending
I suggest reading the book Serenade to the Big Bird, by Bert Stiles. Its such a well written memoir. Bert pulls no punches on himself or his comrades. In it you see the live for the moment mentality. A quick, but very emotional read for anyone wanting to glimpse into the mind of a 24 year old "kid" at war.
I first read that in junior high school and revisited it while I was stationed in Korea. Excellent book.
A classic book.
Stiles was from Denver, as am I. He didn't survive the war, sadly.
Hello, I am a newcomer to your channel and very glad I found it! Your hike to Mount Surabchi was quite a feat of endurance, my respects to you and all that made it to the top.
Awesome, thank you!
Started reading Harry Crosby's book A Wing and a Prayer a couple of days ago. It's a fantastic look into the activities of the 100th from a navigators perspective. How he perceives the men around him and his function within the crew are all well detailed. Recommended reading from me.
Agreed. It's one of the best, up there with Sledge.
I heard a radio interview with Werner Herzog (the German film director) and he said his earliest memory was watching a city burn on the horizon. Chilling.
That is wild.
Another recommendation: the BBC’s 1988 mini series Piece of Cake based on Derek Robinson’s epic novel. No CGI and all practical effects. It still holds up.
I agree. Piece of Cake is incredibly well executed. Also, all of Derek Robinson's books are worth checking out.
Piece of Cake is far better than this crap. It has real planes and good acting. It does not look like bad actors chewing the scenery in a video game.
Loving your channel and so interesting. This forthcoming TV series is one I am so looking forward to watching. I live in the UK and only a stones throw away from the USAAF 384th airbase which conducted the very first bombing run onto enemy occupied land. I have even done a short documentary on this airfield. Fascinating site to visit and explore its many buildings of which still exist today. Grafton Underwood is the name of the village close by and still looks as it did back in 1945. The 384th was part of the Mighty 8th and to watch this new series will bring to light the story of these brave airmen. Keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you!
Another great book is Edward Jablonski’s “Flying Fortress: The Illustrated Biography of the B-17s and the Men Who Flew Them,” a masterpiece which has a whole section dedicated to the 100th Bomb Group (“Ballad of the Bloody Century”).
excellent book!
I'm still making my way through your impressive catalog of videos but would love to see something about the "Generation Kill" mini-series and/or book. I was a history major so I'm interested in how the story of combat veterans are gathered and then adapted into movies and tv, so I'd also love to some kind of discussion about authors such as S.L.A. Marshall (Porkchip Hil), Stephen Ambrose (Band of Brothers), and/or Mark Bowden (Blackhawk Down) and how their soldier interviews eventually became the basis for film and tv.
I grew up in Savannah (the stateside home of The Mighty Eighth) and have visited the nearby museum so I'm really looking forward to this show. Thanks again for the cool video!
I was born and raised Germany before moving to the U.S. as a teenager. My parents were children at the end of WWII. My dad grew up in Nuremberg and experienced air raids before being shipped out into the country. My mom remembers the red horizons in the distance when Bruchsal and Pforzheim were bombed. Near the village in southwestern Germany where I lived before leaving Germany, an American crew member was captured and beat up by civilians after being shot down. After he was liberated from the POW camp where he was imprisoned, he returned to that village with fellow American soldiers, looked for those who had beat him up, and did the same to them. I loved Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Even enjoyed watching the aforementioned 1883 (notwithstanding the inaccuracies). I'm very much looking forward to watching this TV series.
Thanks for visiting.
Wow that's an interesting story! One of the reasons I loved Band of Brothers is because it gave us a taste of what life was like in occupied territory immediately after the end of the war.
Have you ever seen "Rescue Dawn?" Its based on the true story of Dieter Dengler who grew up in Germany during WWII and was buzzed by an allied fighter plane and then resolved to move to the U.S. and join the military and become a pilot. He then got shot down over Laos and captured during the Vietnam War. I found the story of his time in the prison camp and escape very moving and well done.
@@johnard611 I have not seen that. I'll look for it. On a similar note, are you familiar with "The Railway Man"? An autobiographical book and subsequent movie about a British WWII POW who was forced to work on the Thai-Burma Railway. Many years later he met and reconciled with one of his Japanese tormenters.
@@fosterfuchs I saw the trailer when the movie came out and thought it looked good but it never seemed to show up on any of my subscribed services until now. So I've got it on my list and will try to watch it in the next day or two, thanks!
Bomber Boys - WWII Flight Jacket Art by John Slemp is a great book to add. Over 100 jackets photographed in archival quality and each identified by the airman who wore it...with their stories reflected in the jacket art. It's masterful!
As a Veteran of the 100th ARW "Box D's" and the 332d Expeditionary Group. I cannot wait to see this!
Much respect.
I’m curious if y’all will cover 12’ O Clock High as it also follows the 8th and was released not too long after the war? Would be a great lead up to the release of this miniseries!
We hope to at some point!
I love this channel, very informative stuff and well done! This series teaser looks amazing. Anything with Hanks and Spielberg involved, I'm in! Quick question, were the P51'S the superior planes of that era for the United States to help prevail in the skies during WW2? Thanks
Thanks for the kind words!
Here is a great article on your question: www.flyingmag.com/flying-classics-p-51-mustangs-helped-win-the-air-during-world-war-ii/
They were great aircraft. A massive part was the fact that with drop tanks they could escort the bombers all the way to the target.
great coverage and historical truth is awesome in this series. This will be a home run.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I won't be surprised if it's not as good as BoB and Pacific, but either way, I'm hoping it will be good.
Band of Brothers is a very high bar to pass, and also I know that John Orloff (who wrote episode 2 and 9 of BOB) and some of the actors were calling and talking to the veterans as they were filming and extensive interviewing beforehand as well. Unfortunately I think all the veterans are gone for this particular group so we won't get that.
Love your channel Jared, you come across as extremely knowledgeable and approachable. I haven't got round to watching your Iwo Jima vid yet, but looking forward to setting aside the time to do so! One minor thing on this one - might have been better whilst the trailer was playing to make the trailer bigger and you smaller ;) no offence intended!! thanks
Thanks for the input!
This looks awesome!
"All the Fine Young Men" ran on NBC in the early 80s and is a treasure. It is, as far as I know, only available in poor quality on youtube. The fellas... When they were still spry. Only in their 60s. Just the way I remember seeing them as a kid.
Nice editing Andy!
Thanks!
Wish they would include the 328th Bombardment Squadron, 93rd Bombardment Group out of Hardwick. Ted's Traveling Circus. They flew B-24s and got their Circus name, because of multiple deployments to N. Africa. They flew in Operaion Tidal Wave, theAug 1943 Ploesti refinery raid. Lt.Col Addison Baker, the 328th Cmdr and Major John Jerstad, 328th Adjutant, flew in HELL'S WENCH and were lost, in the attack. Their combined action resulted in each being awarded the MOH. I was in the 328th Bombardment Squadron, when I was in the air force- 1989-1993.
There's a moment there where the crew are resting in front of a B17, I'm British but I'd be proud to hang that frame on my wall. Its the calm before the storm and just beautiful!
Cheers from across the pond!
Where did you get that Operation Torch hoodie? That is really cool.
The West Point Football store!
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This mini-series was originally was going to be called 'The mighty eighth' when it was first announced a few years back now that this was going to be a follow-up to Band of brothers & The pacific wasn't it,I seem to remember something with the title of that large book you showed?
Yes, same producer team.
A very nerdy & geeky question regarding the "Masters of the Air" series. Are there any B-24 Liberator units featured in the series? The B-24 sadly is an often-ignored airplane that has it's place in the history of the 8th AF. Love your channel, thanks!
Not that we know of.
like the British said about fortress Europe, "They forgot to put a roof on it"
One episode is going to cover what life at Thorpe-Abbots (home of the 100th) was like and which will center on the donut girl. Another episode will follow what it was like in a POW camp in Germany. I’m a bit baffled about the Tuskegee Airmen though. They were with the 15th out of Italy. Plus, they’ve had a couple movies made about them. But I’m sure Hanks/Spielberg/Orloff will have it taken care of.
Several of the Tuskegee Airmen were captured and held at the same Stalag as the 100th.
@@ChienaAvtzonYes. I saw that in the trailer. I’ve read the source book by Miller and the Tuskegee Airmen are mentioned in it once. I should not leap to any conclusions until the series is out in its entirety. I. E. I should keep my mouth shut.
@@g-unit7625 - The series is not just based on Miller’s book. It is the basic premise of the series but not everything. It seems a few memoirs have been added into the mix, in order to get a more detailed and personal perspective. Judging by the directors, the Tuskegee Airmen will feature in Episodes 7 and 8. Considering there will only be 9 episodes, that fits into the basic timeframe the Tuskegee operated out of Italy. I am more interested in how the transition that incorporates the Tuskegee into the narrative will be. It needs to be seamless as not devalue these men’s stories.
I guess another all white cast would be hard to sell in these woke times
@@falcondmpwould be a hard sell to the D.I.E departments, but would be refreshing to the people who are actually interested in the series and history, and it has nothing to do with race but with accuracy. I am vaguely familiar with the Tuskegee aircrew, but I think including them in this series in a way does them a disservice by wedging them in hear as a woke PSA, i legit would not mind a mini series that documents their participation in the war accurately with a production level like band of brothers, that would do them right.
I DO NOT watch reaction videos except Prof Jared. Great as always. Please, Jared, don't get me going on 1883. If you think I hate Spielberg do not get me started on Taylor Sheridan. "Mayor of Kingstown" and "1883" are abominations against humanity. How can a man like Sheridan give us "Wind River" and then turn to the dark side?
Wind River is a masterpiece. We think Sheridan is overworking with too many shows.
@@ReelHistory "Wind River" has the perfect NON ROMANCE. A common sense older man in a professional relationship with a younger woman. There was non of that Hollywood B.S. "oh are they going to kiss?" end.of.rant
@@ReelHistory I've been a fan of Taylor Sheridan since his acting days on "Sons of Anarchy" and love "Hell or High Water" and "Wind River." But I just looked at his Wikipedia page and was amazed at the amount of recent and in production projects he's involved in. I would prefer to see him scale down and focus more on quality rather quantity.
Well, they did Band of Brothers (Army), they did The Pacific (Marine Corps), they did this one, Masters of the Air (Army Air corps-Air Force), now they have to do the Navy. They could show the battle of Midway, follow the U.S.S. Enterprise, which fought all over the pacific, they could show aerial combat off aircraft carriers and submarine battles. Get to it gentlemen.
Will their be an autograph copies of the upcoming book?
Absolutely! If you pre-order, we can send you a signed bookplate or we can mail you one personally once it comes out.
Glad to have you back from your travels. As someone who had relatives in the “Mighty Eighth” I have been looking forward to this for sometime.
I look forward to your review of the movie “Napoleon”. I was looking forward to that but the bad reviews I have seen (trenches at Waterloo!!!) made me decide to skip the movie and wait for the extended version on Apple TV
Napoleon is on our list of forthcoming projects!
If you want a great reading or reference suggestions then I strongly recommend any of the books by the late great Roger Freeman, an Englishman who spent his youth near an 8th AF base during the war. He wrote the classic “Mighty Eighth,” (he coined the term, Mighty Eighth). Any of his books are worth it.
Agreed, Roger Freeman is very much the progenitor of Eighth Air Force research & history. To this day smany of his books still remain the benchmark for those who wish to get into studying the subject.
@@ZBLDSCouldn’t agree more. I have several of his books.
"Operation Torch". My uncle was a tank commander and was wounded at the Kasserine pass.
Much respect to your uncle.
Gone now but I was the only one in our family he would talk to about the war as I had done my service with the 82nd during Vietnam. He didn't even say much about it to my dad who enlisted in the NAVY 2 days after he left for North Africa. Dad went on to serve on a carrier in the Pacific until the end of the war. His only battle was Guadalcanal. Escort Carrier CVE-1 USS Long Island. Thank you for your thoughts.@@ReelHistory
Hey Jared and Andy, what are the chances of a weekly analysis of MOTH (Moth? ). I know thats a huge commitment, especially weekly. I think that would be great and springboard you guys into full-time UA-camrs. 😊. Great review of this trailer. I am excited to see the series.
We've got huge plans already in place to make exactly that happen!
@@ReelHistoryawesome. Maybe you guys can sleep and eat in March. Lol. Thanks for continuing to make great and interesting content.
looking forward to this series, big fan of Band of Brothers. The trailer however did not captivate me due tp the combination of the quick cuts and consistant rumbling bass-drop thud, thud, thud trailer sounds; each trailer verson seems to be identical just different footage. For a historic picture I personally would like a little more promotion on transfering to the audience and reflecting the history these young lads went through than promoting this as night club scene (music wise only). Also looking forward to your future videos Jared when the episodes have aired, (pun intended).
"Thud, thud, thud" trailers are one of Jared's big pet peeves. You are not alone!
I am curious as to what was done in a studio with that Volume set of screens that every big production is choosing to use these days versus practical sets and locations. I'm guessing there's not many flying B-17s out there obviously. The VFX of the show of Austin Butler for a brief second at 2:59 has me concerned about overall quality of the show. That's what is holding me up when it comes to getting AppleTV just for this.
We are a far cry from 1989 with the likes of filming "Memphis Belle" when it comes to real planes.
The production team built 2 B17s, a full army air force base that included barracks, mess, hospital etc. it was a truly massive undertaking.
I've seen some behind the scenes stuff about the Volume used on Star Wars/Marvel and Star Trek shows and so far I think it works better when practical sets and effects are used along with the Volume as much as possible.
there is no other way to show the scale of the USAAF in the ETO without computers.
@@johnorloff3738 Hello, are you the John Orloff who wrote episodes 2 and 9 of Band of Brothers and also has writing credits on Masters of the Air? I love your work!
Yeah there's probably no non-cost prohibitive way to do like the "A Bridge Too Far" movie production and show such big formations of actual WWII aircraft these days without some form of computer graphics. I was just curious as to what practical sets might have been built to go along with the vfx.
My Pop was in 491st and 44th BG. Tail gunner. 8th AF. He probably would not watch it if he was alive. He did not talk much about it. I love the history of it and have been to a couple bases in England. The TV show 12 o’clock high was pretty good. Looking forward to watching it and will have to ignore the PC stuff that is preset on everything now-a days.
Much respect to your father.
We generally find that there is often a difference between PC nods and just accepting history that has been overlooked.
If you liked the "12 O'Clock High" TV series, you must watch the 1949 movie of the same name. It is (or was) required viewing at the Air Force Academy, I believe, for what command of a combat outfit means.
@@isleman9473, I own both!
Flying used to be a fear of mine. Now its a dream, I want to get my pilots license but I feel like my past history of mental health would prevent me from working in the field and its a very expensive hobby lol.
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According to History? After the Tuskegee Fighter Squadron, there was not a lost Bomber after that..
I hope that the RAF and especially bomber command gets a little love. I know it's an American funded production about Americans, but it would still be nice. Looking forward to the show
Extreme loss of life...the grindstone of war...fought by kids!!
Len Deighton Bomber opened my eyes to what Bomber Command’s war was like. Heartbreaking to listen to the audio book.
Well Band of Brothers made the British a bunch of idiots so expectations are low
My wifes Grandad was a "Tail End Charlie" on RAF Bombers. He NEVER spoke about the war, but he was a damaged man - seeing friends blown out of the sky night after night. The PTSD and survivors guilt must have etan him up inside.
Hi Reelers! I'm seeking your knowledge, let me explain, after the masters of the air series were announced, I remembered an article I read when I was a 10 year old kid, back in the early 90s, on the Reader's Digest magazine. The article was a sort of a summary or extract from the memories of a P-51 pilot who was shot down over the Netherlands and how the Dutch resistance helped him to avoid capture and return to England. But the thing is that I can't recall anything else about the story like pilot's name or which squadron he was. And of course, my mom doesn't have the magazine anymore 😅. So I know it's an incredible longshot, but maybe someone here might have heard or read that story and could help me with the name of the memoirs or the pilot's name. Anyway, thanks for your time.
Chuck Yeager was a Mustang Pilot and he was shot down on an escort mission and he managed to evade capture. Perhaps that was the story. More than likely RD condensed the story which was common practice. Yeager flew with the 357th. His book “Yeager” was published in 1985.
@g-unit7625 OMG, you just unlocked me another memory, I also read in RD an article about Chuck Yeager, The fastest man on earth was called. It's how I became to know about him. Thanks a lot for that! 😁
First off, I enjoyed your Iwo Jima Video. Thank you for sharing that experience.
Secondly, at 1:59 is that a *missile* being fired at a B17? I am not aware of that happening. Can you comment on that?
Edit: The air battle scene seems really cluttered. Like way too many enemy aircraft in the frame. It also seems like the Tuskegee Airmen path will cross while in a POW camp.
It could be a rocket. Germans were playing with use of rockets at the end of the war. Good catch
Most likely it's a FW-190 firing 1 of 2 Werfer Grante 21 rocket. Couple of suspicious inaccuracies (my assumption) in that scene. First, they were unguided rockets that required a lot of skill to use. The doctrine for using rockets was to fire at a distance at slower speeds before engaging the formation. Second, those rocket pods were tilted to fire at an arch into the formation. The straight-line shot in the scene would most likely not have happened.
@@ericvergara4599, that is our best guess too.
Rockets were used to help break up formations, it enabled the LW to fire into a formation from a distance and scatter shrapnel - as far I i know.
@@ericvergara4599 I am beginning to worry about this show.
It's one thing to read about th read or see a movie about these events. It's another thing to talk to those who were there.A B-17 navigator and B-24 pilot who bought were over Pelosi and different German towns, a B-29 tail gunner: in the end, all I could do was sing & play for them old tunes & hymns they sung at home, relieving pain & putting peace on their brow. Real History for the Reel. It was a time even dementia cannot erase. I will see this series somehow. But I think I've already seen some a bit more focused. Thanks
Hate to be that guy but I'm gonna do it anyway: Ploesti*
haha - reading "pelosi raids" made me think hard about what the actual name was
No worries. I'm legally blind and it doesn't always hear me clearly. Dad was P40s And P-47s.
@@texhaines9957 that makes sense and honestly it never occurred to me what issues you may face. I'm a history teacher, and I see a lot of clueless people today whose only knowledge/interest of the past comes from media portrayals, so I felt justified in correcting this small mistake lest someone think there's a connection between the politician Nancy Pelosi and the raids. Haha.
Hold on a sec, where did you get that hoodie
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I don’t see Isabel May listed in any of the cast listings for Masters of the Air??
Click "Upcoming" on her credit list.
www.imdb.com/name/nm8908475/
Thanks Jared. You look recovered from Iwo Jima.
I’ve been subscribing to Apple TV for the last year and a half as Apple has been promising this series for that long and keep postponing it. Finally it will be here next month!
Well recovered and gained the weight back too!
Highest casualty rate in any military branch in WW2. The brass sent these kids straight into a "meat grinder"without fighter escort knowing most would be shot down. Not until the P51 mustang was in service did these brave men get some relief.
Looks interesting but not sure it's going to be up to the standard of the previous two. Some questionable things in the previews and hints of current day. I'll take a wait and see about it and since I have no intention of subscribing to Apple TV and it may be years before a BluRay is available I may have to wait a while. Unless of course going the Edward Teach route.
It is questionable whether or not Apple will put it out on DVD. None of their films have been yet.
They really were the greatest generation!
They were very special--and unique.
Many of the gunners were literally teenagers, 16 and 17 years old. They lied about their ages when enlisting and in the early part of the war, at least, nobody was too picky about asking questions of a healthy young male. To describe the courage of going on 24 more missions after experiencing the first is impossible.@@ReelHistory
While this series looks interesting, it seems to once again focus on the B17 groups in the 8th Air Force. It would be nice if it also at least mentions the B24 and the 15th Air Force that flew out of Italy and is usually left out of discussions of the air war against Germany.
Check out the Hulu series "Catch-22." It is fantastic and very loyal to Heller's novel.
There seems to be some focus on the Tuskegee Airmen, who escorted 15th AF bombers.
EDIT: There may be a whole episode dedicated to them.
@@waynec3563 I hope so. It would be nice to see a neglected theater get some recognition.
@@ReelHistory Yes! I really enjoyed that show although its hard to top the effect that the 1970 movie had on my teen age psyche. My grandfather was a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Veteran of New Guinea and this was the only war movie I ever saw him visibly moved by.
Couldn't help myself, but I just had to subscribe to Apple TV so that I could watch this.
Join the club!
@@ReelHistory Apple TV is definitely putting out some cool stuff with For All Mankind, Foundation and Silo. Hope the hot streak continues!
Could be that the woman talking to the crew member before flight is a WASP and not from the red cross?
So if I'm not part of the Apple universe how can I view this?
That is the question!
By hoisting the Jolly Roger.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this is going the same disjointed route as the Pacific went with three different story arcs: I see an aerial combat arc, a POW arc, and a Tuskegee Airmen arc. The latter doesn't seem particularly relevant to the other two, though.
Tuskegee airmen were fellow POWs with the main characters.
@@ReelHistory It will be interesting to see what kind of connections they can make. I too thought The Pacific was a little disjointed when it came out, but I watched it again a few months ago and was satisfied at the connections they were able to make.
your hope is correct! you are wrong.
No, the Red Cross did not supply any personal to aid any war effort. They are actually forbidden to give aid to any belligerent cause. The women in question is a WAAF as in Women's Auxiliary Air Force, one of several female units.
You see them and their contribution in the film "Battle of Britain".
There was lots of Red Cross involvement at military bases. I've been told so by WWII vets themselves and you can look up accounts in period newspapers.
Wow ! All those air crew guys looked like Armani models. So......true to
life then .??
Love your video's..i dont know about this one..i hope its not another Pearl Harbor (2001).
Thank you!
Almost anything is an improvement over Pearl Harbor.
Lol I'm spoiled having watched War films in the 1960's. it just seems the actor's were more credible...A lot of them were WW2 Vets.. Lee Marvin , Jack Palance, Jimmy Stewart ,Dirk Bogard etc. of course there are modern exceptions like Saving Private Ryan ..For me the greatest film ever made about air combat was the Battle of Britain (1969).
But if you ask a 20 something about that film they look at you as if you where nuts.
Its so refreshing to see a young person with Historical knowledge doing an indepth analysis of War films...cant wait to see Masters of the Air.and your review@@ReelHistory
Can’t wait to see this.
As a Brit though I hope it also gives a mention at least to the Brits and Commonwealth airmen who flew too.
One of my v few irritations with Band of Brothers was the scene with the British tank commander saying he couldn’t destroy property which was absolutely stupid, no tanker would have hesitated to shoot if in that situation even if only to bring down the building shielding the enemy.
I have nothing but respect for all Allied pilots and crews who went up again and again against incredible odds knowing the odds were that they wouldn’t come back.
It’s a shame no company can afford to make a series covering the British and Commonwealth experience of WW2 in Europe and the Far East.
Bomber Command needs their own series as they also suffered heavy losses and operated for twice as long as their American allies. However, after the war, the British people were turned off by the area bombing of Hamburg, Berlin and Dresden that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. During the war they supported it but afterward, “Bomber” Harris and his crews were pretty much outcasts. Unfair to be sure but there it is. The British prefer to highlight the heroism of “the few” in 1940.
One thing I think this trailer is portraying accurately is just how young they all look. The Pacific got that right. Band of Brothers sort of did, and many other films get it dead wrong. Most of these guys were mid-20s at most, and many were just late teens.
Great point.
I wonder if this group of young actors will go on to have as much success and fame as the casts of Blackhawk Down and Band of Brothers.
@@johnard611, many of them already have to an extent.
@@ReelHistory After re-watching "The Lords of Disciple," I was reminded that military academy movies can also have great, young casts too. This movie takes place at a military college that is based upon The Citadel in Charleston, SC and stars David Keith, Rick Rossovich, Michael Biehn, "Will" Bill Paxton, Judge Rhienhold, Matt Frewer, and Sean Connery's son, Jason. Another military academy movie, "Taps," featured Timothy Hutton, Sean Penn, Evan Handler, Tom Cruise, and Giancarlo Esposito.
@@johnard611, indeed!
why are my comments being removed. I've commented on the preface to the book series is based on.
We have not removed your comments.
@@ReelHistory good to hear. all Iwas saying was in the preface, which was very powerful was the objective was to @illl civilians and to de house them.
Didn’t the Red Cross attendees serve coffee and donuts *after* the missions instead of before?
Not always. Sometimes guys didn't have time for full breakfast and coffee and donuts were better than nothing. Also, the scene shown very well could have been after a mission.
Hell......Why even a new movie......Just replay Twelve O'Clock High, with Gregory Peck! By the way......In TOH, there was a coffee/Donut girl and a couple of nurses. maybe one day, there will be a movie about them?
Actually the “donut girl,” will have an entire episode about her. I read that somewhere though I cannot recall the exact source.
Big difference with BOB and pacific : a lot more bravado….
At least in the commercial. Then again, Ack Ack Haldane got a bit preachy in The Pacific.
Don't 4get original called Mighty 8th. Now they even added Tuskegee Airman. Should have made 13 years ago. But I guess like Cameron Stevey was waiting for better avance comp graphics to be reday 4 his vision picture make. Few more days is okay better than top gun 2 over 30 years of wait. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nothing on the Tuskegee airmen?
In our commentary?
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No, I saw them in the trailer and wondered if you or someone could tell me if they were out of place in England.
They're not in England. The Redtails did protect fighters coming from England. However, I'm assuming their storyline cross in the POW camps.
Thank you@@ReelHistory
Colonels or Majors would be a little bit older.. yea, like 29.
You'd be surprised. It wouldn't be uncommon to see 22 year old Majors in WW2
I get the feeling that the woman around 6:52 is a WAAF since she looks like she’s wearing RAF battledress so hopefully that means a few British characters
Wrvs, Women’s royal voluntary service
I'm still approaching Masters of the Air with some trepidation. I just hope there are no British characters in this production whatsoever, because in Band of Brothers they were just awful. I recently came across a video interview with Freddie Hunt, the son of 1976 F1 World Champion, the late James Hunt, and he was talking about the film Rush (2013), starring Chris Hemsworth as Hunt and directed by Ron Howard - ua-cam.com/video/ULH4BH3xMRk/v-deo.html
We suspect there will be a lot of Anglo-American interaction in this series.
@@ekl2947 - that's the same agument that the British landings on D-Day should have been included on Saving Private Ryan. That protest (I remember at the time the UK media blew up a bit over it) was frankly embarrassing, because the British and Canadian landings had nothing to do with the story of Saving Private Ryan and takes place on Omaha Beach and behind the lines on Utah Beach sectors - both American.
British actors are more than capable of playing American characters, as more than half of Easy Company in Band of Brothers were successfully played by British actors, with a couple of Irishmen and a South African as well, but for some reason American scriptwriters can't seem to write for British characters, so the characters come off in a very stereotypical way. The three I can think of in Band of Brothers - 'Fake German' (Harry Peacock) in Ep.1 'Currahee', Lt Col David Dobie (John Light) and Brigadier General [should be just 'Brigadier'] 'Red Beret' (Graham Seed) in Ep.5 'Crossroads' - were awful, okay, and not great respectively, despite all being good British actors.
It's like the example of Rush in the Freddie Hunt interview link I posted, the attitude of the American director, scriptwriter, or whoever is responsible, frankly does deserve a slap in the face. I totally agree with Hunt's comments, particularly as I remember watching his father race in the 1970s and do commentary on F1 races in his second career after retiring. Listening to Freddie was like having James back in the room. Hemsworth's performance or Howard's direction and attitude are just baffling, especially when you consider how Daniel Brühl was able and allowed to honour Niki Lauda with a "masterpiece" of a portrayal.
@@ReelHistory - in my experience, not a good thing, when the scriptwriter is American.
@@ekl2947 - the negative response to Saving Private Ryan in the UK came from our own D-Day veterans themselves, and the media picked up on it, but as I said it was embarrassing if you knew the history because it was simply not their story and they had no reason to feel aggrieved. It was not like the U-571 situation where questions were asked in Parliament and the British Government actually made a formal protest.
I agree with your comments about the glossy trailers, and despite Spielberg admitting he went too far with the maudlin music on Saving Private Ryan, he doesn't seem to have applied the lesson on his TV series. I'm really starting to deeply resent being telegraphed how to think and feel when I'm watching these productions. Just tell the story, don't tell me how I should feel about it.
Oh yes, they get the German characters right (but I reserve the right to be corrected by an actual German viewer), just as Ron Howard was apparently happy for Daniel Brühl to get Niki Lauda right in Rush. Heaven forbid that anyone on the continent of Europe should be offended.
On British casualties on 911, my checking indicates it was 67, because I thought that 78 was more like the number of nationalities represented, but that was at least 102 apparently.
Anyway, bottom line is that Hollywood just doesn't seem to be able to write for British characters, so a production like this should have at least one British writer on staff, or allow the actors script approval for their lines. I really like the UA-cam clip of Matt Damon telling the story of working with Jack Nicholson on The Departed, where Nicholson claimed the secret to his successful career was because he was a good writer - "you could end the scene there, but if you leave the camera rolling..." - ua-cam.com/video/DuXOSXyyCGo/v-deo.html
Long drop to the ground ? 😢
I don't care about the historical accuracy of 1883. I adore that show
Good cinematography for sure!
The Red Cross women were mainly middle aged English housewives .
Probably not the last " pretty face ' you'd like to look upon. ?
Any recently released war movie needs to have Dale Dye in the cast. He would be perfect as the Commander of the Eight Air Force. Is it true when a B-17 crew returned with no damage to their plane, the ground crew would shake bottles of Coca-Cola and spray the crew? Not having to repair the aircraft must have been something to celebrate. Just kidding, folks.
Dale is great, though he is in his 80s now and far past the age of WWII officer.
Thanks for your heartbreaking reply. I just did a BING search for Hollywood actors in their fifties. Quess, who came up? My second choice Brad Pitt. Too old?
The ground crews did heroic work to keep the B-17s and B-24s flying. A book called "Soldiers With Spanners" covers it well. By the way, "Spanner" is British English for wrench.
@@isleman9473, so true. Fathers of improvisation often.
@@ReelHistory I love the story about Dale having a Vietnam flashback while the ambush scene at the beginning of Platoon was being filmed. Its a good thing Oliver Stone didn't insist on Dale using real bullets in the m-16 he would occasionally fire to goose the actors! :)
Great book, looking forward to the show.
Hate to quibble, but the actors are too old. Most of the pilots were in their early to mid 20s and most of the crew were teenagers.
Just wait. If you look at IMDb the casting is pretty damn accurate age wise.
@@jordan6049, we agree. Most of them seem to be in their twenties.
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Not sure how this series is going to pan out, really? It’s going to have to heavily rely on CGI, as it’s just not doable otherwise and this will be its weakest link.
I can see why they chose the “Bloody Hundredth” as their Bomb Group though.....girls in London wouldn’t get involved with them, that’s how bad their loss rate reputation was and when they flew the Raid to Munster, Flying as the Low Formation, everyone got shot down save for one Bomber....only one got home to Thorpe Abbots....120+ men lost on one Raid....The C/O refused to believe the Crew report from the Crew that returned...he reckoned that shock had got to them and that his other Bombers had put down at different bases because of battle damage. 😢😢....after a couple of hours the ugly truth hit home.....
Fingers crossed that this series does indeed become the fitting memorial that these men deserve.
Love the Nike on your hoodie.......not
Okay.......
I hate to say it but I think it’s going to be pretty corny. There is no way we make a historical war movie today that’s not 50 percent preaching about this cause or that. You know I’m right 😂.
The cause of defeating fascism? Because you know, that is what this whole war was in fact about.
Totally agree! Too much romance, Hollywood crap, one-liners and not even dedicated to the bomber group!
@@davidbrian2570, we shall see.
Aren't these actors too old? Shouldn't half of them be 18 or 19?
They look pretty good age wise.
I think I'd rather watch "12:00 High" for the countless time before watching the CG nonsense.
Might be worth a chance!
According to Hollywood the Tuskegee Airmen were the only US fighter squadron.
Said no one ever…
Now you're just talking out of your ass, sorry but seriously?
@@ekl2947, you are actually spot on here.
I’m assuming UA-cam is deleting the Vlogging through History video link regarding people saying this comment…
In that case, one of the members of the 100th Bomb Group ended up in the same Stalag as one of the Tuskegee Airmen. Look in the map in the background, it’s clearly showing Italy.
Truly amazing how you racist lie.
What "Band Of Brothers" and "The Pacific" did so well was keep their stories real, and authentic, and no-nonsense. I'm hoping it's just the trailer, but "Masters Of The Air" looks a lot more like rah-rah, flag-flailing, stand-up-and-salute-SIR! melodrama than the first two miniseries. I know there are people who really go for that sort of storytelling. But as a veteran myself, it just rings sort of hollow. I'm hoping the scenes that they have shown so far will be a lot less cheesy in the overall context of the series. I've been looking forward to this for so long. So far, it looks like "Top Gun"; the aerial scenes are thrilling, and the ground scenes look eye-rollingly bad.
As much as I want to watch this, I’m not subscribing to yet another streaming service.
Yarr, matey
Cancel a few. I dumped Netflix, Hulu and Disney Plus. I particularly loved getting rid of Disney, though I do miss their classic hand drawn animated films, a small price to pay.
You could wait for the release of the blu-ray/DVD.
Making a video on a preview/trailer you know you’re desperate to make content. 😂
Not really. It is very common on UA-cam. What makes us different is that we actually offer educated commentary rather than thoughtless reaction.
Looks corny!
We shall see. Keep in mind you are only seeing two minutes of a 9-hour film.
Since they want go woke with this series, I will boycott it. Im done with everything by Hanks and Speilberg.
What are you talking about? The mere presence of the Tuskegee squadron?
@@ohthreefiftyone, some people have issues with the very presence of Black men in historical films. Sad commentary.
@@ohthreefiftyone No, the tokenism is what I object to.
@@ReelHistory And some people are consumed by white guilt to the point of self-flagellation.
@@tomcarl8021 They're a part of this story that actually happened. They're not fictional characters written in to satisfy some diversity quota.
More American "glory boy" BS.
What should filmmakers focus on? German glory?
Sorry watched 10 minutes, load of crap. CGI looks like video game.
CGI. Looks like a cartoon.
The light colored shearling jacket worn by Major Egan. Was that a thing back then? I've never seen a jacket like that in any WWII picture.
Egan had a trademark sheepskin jacket that was exactly as shown.
@@ReelHistory Thank you Sir.
In 15 years. We'll get one about the navy.
USS Enterprise!