How to Stop an Express Train between Ringwood and Bournemouth
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This week see's us trek between Ringwood and Christchurch, down through some rugged heathland. We also ask the question, exactly how do you stop an Express Train back in 1870, when you really shouldn't be allowed to.
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Done.
I wish you luck in preserving that right of way, I've had many an argument there. !!!!
If somebody has built a fence across a public right of way, I'm sure the county council's Public Rights Of Way Officer would be interested in the details.
Apparently the council are interested, according to the Whitewick's response to an earlier comment by DJB UK.
Ramblers and Open Spaces Society are also pretty good contacts for this sort of thing.
I looked at a satellite map of the area immediately to the north of the Avon Causeway Hotel which shows at least two houses with gardens covering the old trackbed. Beyond that there is a quarry which was used during the upgrade of the A338 some years ago and beyond that the trackbed is covered by the A338.
Very interesting and brings back many happy memories of the area. That used to be an old tactic; tell everyone who comes by, that the path no longer exists, build over it and then ask for the path to be declared redundant on the grounds that no one is using it! Easy way to acquire some land, adding value to you own (allegedly). Also, let’s all be thankful that we didn’t get to see Santa’s ‘sack’ at any point in the video! 🙈
Hi Paul and Rebecca. I put a link up earlier to say yes that is still a right of way. I don't think links are allowed so it never showed. Lord Manners owns that land but leases it out (not sure whom to). He is a nice chap though so may be worth you checking with him and also BCP council rights of way team. I did report that blocked Row some years ago. Hope it works out well. Good luck. Mark
Good on you for battling against people blocking footpaths! Happy Christmas.
Bravery award for Rebecca, obviously struggling with her hurty ankle!
Well done Rebecca for completing that one.....you were obviously 🙄 in a lot of discomfort. Your top says it all. Amazing 😉 x
Agreed! 😁
9:20 - Drank a few times in that pub back in the 70s! Happy memories. Thank You P & R.
I always knew Rebecca is just as interested in these historic walks as what you are Paul! 👍🏼🙂 …I have to say, I love following your adventures every Sunday afternoon. I am really enjoying and looking forward to every new video each week. Another great video this week Paul! …hope the ankle gets better soon Rebecca 👍🏼👍🏼
I'm assuming you're using the most upto date maps when showing the OS maps, however they don't always make all the changes right away when a footpath gets re-routed. You might want to consider reporting this to the local council's Highways Department as permission is required to close a public footpath and to do so without permission is illegal.
Quit sure Paul knows this.
Thanks Neil. Live App being used. Yes reported to BC who have been great. They have a specific division for this and have suggested that there has indeed been no changes formally approved. So this will hopefully be rectified soon. I'll keep you all posted. Best regards.
@@pwhitewick look forward to hearing the results! Keep crusading❣
@@pwhitewick Well done, this happens too often
@@pwhitewick looking forward to see the outcome of this.
Keep up the great content
Am a local so found this particularly interesting. Thanks!
As I live near there, I've tried to follow that route on Google Earth a few times, but it's not easy, especially as it seems to have some tight bends and it looks as though some is under the A338 now. So well done to both of you for finding and following it.
"Missing" public footpaths are a pain. especially if there is no obvious way around. Its not always delays at Ordnance Survey in updating maps either. There are a couple close to me (Oxfordshire) that have not been walkable in living memory, but are still shown on the Council definitive map. We are very lucky to have some of best mapping in the world. My other gripe is "permissive" paths, where the landowner has grated temporary access. Very often these are not shown on OS maps at all. Where they are, they can be revoked (most recently found on the Templer way in Devon).
Great video ans always.
Get tthe parish council to complain to the landowners reminding them that they have a legal duty to maintain access.
@@rogerphelps9939 a bit tricky when they were built on 30+ years ago, which is the case with a number of paths still showing on the definitive map close to me.
@@stuartbridger5177 That should be irrelevant. Clearly there was a cockup and it has to be put right. There are plenty of footpaths near where I live that go straight through people's gardens.
Avon Causeway P.H. is a special place for me because my kids didn't speak to me for 11 years when my marriage failed. When they finally decided to break that situation, the was the pub that was chosen as the venue. It all ahd a happy ending as they are both now adults, both are in regular contact, and both have provided me with beautiful grandkids.
PS: Rebecca is more nimble on her hurty ankle than I am on a good day! 😀
Love the outcome of the story. Thanks for sharing 👍
@@pwhitewick Hope Rebecca's ankle mends soon too.
I love the story. Finally, smiles all around!
The Avon Causeway brings back happy memories for me too, though thankfully not with the sad prologue. The College of Air Traffic Control was situated nearby at Hurn Airport and the Avon Causeway was a regular ‘lunch’ haunt whenever I was there!
@@egpx When I was a kid, Hurn Airport was still basically a few old prefab concrete huts at an airfield.
Every so often my grandad would take me and my siblings to the refreshment hut where he could have a can of beer and watch the planes taking off etc. We kids had colas, and used every copper coin in his pockets to play the old one-armed bandit.
But, sometimes we would go to the Avon Causeway instead, where we sat outside, and he would sneak us a half a shandy. We felt terribly grown-up!
My wife and I have been roaming like this for 50+ years, still buddies. Hope you 2 will be able to say the same!
Thanks, that's lovely to hear
Hi Paul and Rebecca, thank-you for another lovely video, it's so nice to watch you exploring such beautiful countryside, my wife and I used to do walks as well, we have done The West Highland Way, The Formartine and Buchan Way, The Speyside Way, and The Dava Way, amongst others, but these days, we're not as fit as we used to be, although we still like a walk occasionally, anyway, stay safe, all the best from Scotland, Stephen.
The fact that both Rebecca and you have complementary interests in these endeavors make you much more fortunate to have each other as partners than if one were 'just going along. That's a real solid relationship that runs deep. 😊
I really enjoy these videos. You two seem like quite the wonderful partners.
My wife is from Guildford, Surrey, and we enjoy seeing the British countryside in your videos.
Land owner blocking a public right of way and then lying about it? Surely not!!
I'm going to show my age here... Back in the year 2000 as a young Venture Scout we walked from Bala to Dolgellau along the disused trackbed. At several points we were told that 'this is not a footpath', despite being marked as such on the OS map (at the time). To add to confusion at boundaries styles and steps are in place along the path. If the land owners didn't want you on their land why were they providing access?
I have been meaning to get on that line but haven't yet. Thanks for that.
Good for you Rebecca in completing the walk on that bad ankle! 👏
Thanks Rebecca for painfully plodding along. Your presence is appreciated.
I'm impressed that you stopped to have your hair cut before the end Paul.
Ah the old road...hope your ankle gets better soon Rebecca and please keep the Lady Penelope look! I stayed at Hurn Station ( now Avon Causeway) station when it was owned by this man who made Basil Fawlty look hospitable. He uses to shout at guests he deemed late for Breakfast, amongst other rages.
Weird how people assume that only Paul would find this interesting, and that Rebecca is only coming along as a favour. Although with the ankle the fun may be slightly reduced, I hope that it will get better.
Good on ya for keeping public rights of way open. Some people just don't have a clue and believe they can get away with anything!!!!!
Great video nice to see you down in my part of the world. A lot of the track bed was lost when the A338 Wessex Way was built in the late 1960s as the road engineers followed some of the same route into Bournemouth also its a pity you couldn’t look round the Avon Causeway pub / Hurn station as it still has one of the platforms with a Pullman Carriage and Shunting Locomotive. It also has some information inside about the station and line with some old photos of the station when it was in operation 👍😎
I heard that Tom Scott just started doing collaborations/features with other smaller UA-camrs (like you guys ). You guys should apply, It would be a great chance to grow this amazing channel!
Rebecca, praying that your twisted ankle heals well! Been there and done that many times myself! Love watching your vids and learning about the history of the Iron Horses, railways, and canals!
According to the Dorset County Council Definitive Map of public rights of way, that path near Hurn is currently STILL a public right of way
Omg ... if that fence is illegal and the person who had it installed gets a visit from the council and charged or sent away to prison then he's gonna be after you two quick smart lol 😂 !!
This has to be one of your funniest videos ... loved Santa .. I thought he might've been Bec's brother or something... but no ... all in a good cause hey !! Happy happy Christmas Paul and Rebecca ... hope your ankle gets better soon.... I think this walk did it good as you didn't appear to be as wobbly towards the end 😍... anyway look after it ! Paul would be very boring doing these videos all by himself lol 😆!!
In English law we don't say "versus" or "v", we say "and", even though the abbreviation is "v". Only Americans say "versus". The case you're referring to is Turner v Great Northern Railway Co, "Turner and Great Northern Railway"
How did the GNR get involved? That's a good distance from their territory.
Great video. We went to view one of those houses about 3 years ago when it was for sale. At the time you could walk to the pub from the house, a plus, unfortunately the A338 put us off making an offer on the property. Therefore, I reckon that that fence is less than 3 years old!
Glad you cleared things up about Rebecca's ankle, thought she was doing the video with an invisible three-legged race partner, especially after the Santa gags.
Hope Rebecca’s ankle gets better soon.
I think it’s great that you both have someone who shares your interests. It’s also very important to challenge where people have blocked rights of way.
Hi .Nice vid .I believe all public footpaths have to be registered in a special book .to save lost rights of way .ancient path way etc by 2025 .hence loads of people have been walking loads of path where farmers have blocked etc .bad people putting that fence up in your vid .most deff needs reporting .ie council .look forward to next week's. X for give am wrong on that info Chris x
Paths for the public that were established many many years ago need to declared by the 31st of December 2025.
This needs a major push. I live near this old line and there are numerous public rights of way around here which have been blocked by land owners and neighbours.
The UK and its public footpaths!. There has been lots of squabbles over them and stright access to properties over hundreds of years. I suspect some councils really do not give a stuff so people block them.
We will give this a push ourselves soon (like Tom Scott recently did). Hoping that many more get involved too.
NIMBY types 😡
The Avon Causeway keep very good beer,and the food is excellent and fairly priced ,here ends the plug.great video chaps as usual and I hope very much that your ankle mends soon Rebecca ,sent you something to help the fund raiser take care both see you next week.
I live in Ringwood, and while I worked at One-stop up at Ashley Heath, I used to walk the Trailway to get to the shop, which is right behind Ashley Heath Halt!
Rebecca's got a painful ankle, and you're NOT carrying her backpack? Good gracious!
That is out of order putting a fence across a public path!
Rest assured I've complained and the council are already on it. Which was a very pleasant surprise.
@@pwhitewick could you update us on how is goes?
Or..
Could you do a video on the subject of rights of ways, do's/dont's, legal standards/requirements and the histories behind them?
Has it been followed up?? Will the local authority be taking legal action
Thanks Paul and Rebecca, another interesting disused railway adventure. Keep em coming
Another interesting video! I didn't know about the plinthed loco at Hurn so I'll have to stop and look next time I'm down that way.
Ahhhh the Avon Causeway...I have sunk a few pints in there, whilst attending the old Air Traffic College at Bournemouth/Hurn airport....Happy days...
In a previous life I used to live at the Matcham's estate with an old girlfriend! Lots of memories! Didn't know about the train line though!
Rebecca and Paul found each other for a reason. (And I would also add that Rebecca is lucky to have someone so devoted like Paul.)
your vids never stop "amazing" me ... the strange things your find ... a running Santa !!!!!!
Hope the ankle is better Rebecca
cheers, Garry from Down Under
Super enjoyable as usual. I know more than some locals - sweet! Rebecca, I hope your ankle is better! Cheers from New York!
Nice one and Happy Christmas in advance.
Rebecca's pully entirely accurate! Hope the ankle is better.
Shame we didn't know you were heading down to the area, The lovely people at Week Farm (Avon Organics) are my wife's relations so we could have sorted you out a cuppa and cake, especially on a Saturday when The Veg Shed is open.
Hope Rebecca's ankle gets better soon.
Bungle and Heather from Northampton xx
Rebecca, the pain you endure for your art! Hope you are feeling better soon. Obviously great video as always. Paul you need to buy your good Lady 2 walking poles.
Great vlog. Loved the colours. Very informative. Thank you..
Instantly reminded me of you and towing the sleigh...
hi paul and rebecca , this was great and really interesting , loved the santa bits lol , well done and thank you guys :)
Love your films…very chilled….appreciate the effort you both make.
That was great. It is obvious you two enjoy doing this together coz I’m sure if Rebecca doesn’t want to do it she wouldn’t. I even enjoyed the silly Santa. Thanks for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Just come across the channel and working my way through the years of content. Are you aware of Rye and Camber Tramway? Route is mostly accessible and got some interesting WW2 history attached to it aswell. I've flicked through your videos and couldn't see that you've covered it but apologies if I missed it
Rebecca's bad ancle reminded me of something I have wondered about. When you walk in such a straight line from one place to another, do you drive to the first place, walk some distance, then double back, drive to next stretch and walk and so on. Maybe a Christmas bonus can be the logistics, how far do you really walk? In this video I hope Rebecca at least got a ride back to the car if it was parked at the beginning of the walk. (Have bad legs, so this is somewhat interesting to me personally)
I'll add this question to a Q and A!!. Thank you 😊
The fence along the railway cutting was not there in the 80s, we used to walk along it with our dog.
Paul Tibbets once stayed at the Avon Causeway during World War II.
Hurn was originally called 'Heron Bridge' (over the Moors River), but the locals soon put an end to all that nonsense. Prior to the opening of Heathrow, the newly-built Hurn Airport was for a year or two the place where planes carrying trans-Atlantic passengers landed - which explains the visit by top pilot Paul Tibbetts, (bringing Ike?) - later he named his new B-29 after his mom - 'Enola Gay'. 'Avon Causeway' pub landlord Joe (and Nelly) Palmer had 2 or 3 carriage interiors built inside the Pub complete with sliding doors in the '70s and later bought that Pullman carriage on the track outside. Happy memories of Steve 'Odge' tapping his very accurate watch as Nelly attempted to snatch the last mouthfull in his glass at the end of drinking-up time . .
Yeah did that line in '79, 10/13 mins from home, ah happy days, Causeway good bikers pub then; bits of track curved off under Fairmile rd to waterworks Christchurch end.
Wonder where that Wild Santa appeared from lol That was brilliant! until you find out at the end lol! Have to give Rebecca a hell of a lot of credit and praise for all that walking on a bad ankle. Awesome video Paul and Rebecca.
Shame you could not get to Christchurch Station. From there, you would have spotted some old 'Dragons Teeth' from WWII that mark where the corkscrew came in. Shame there is so much blocked off now. Before those wire fences went up, you could walk all of the way down the cutting from Matchams View
Very good - If I was there I would of had a little peak over the fence to see what is going on!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂
I know what you mean. But when we talked to the people who owned the house, we were pretty much stood there.
Who would have thought? Rebbeca just following Paul around. Probably to make sure Paul doesn't get lost in all his excitement!
I recon one span was removed from the river bridge when the branch closed. A look at the river bank abutments (if that was possible) might answer it.
How ensuring to see that Paul (always) knows the way 😂
2:41 When that shot came in I legit thought for a second that Rebecca was holding an open wine bottle lol
Why wasn't Paul giving Rebecca a piggy back during this journey if she had a dicky ankle? What has happened to gallantry?
5:18 oh that actually makes sense! True!!
Anyone want to bet Rebecca hurt her ankle kicking Paul? :) Happy New Year!
Did that walk last year just after lockdown great to have the pub half way for a drink and lots of railway stuff to see shame the road was built on a lot of it. Got to see the station in the estate as well drive by I got lost honest!!!
When are you going to visit the Wilts & Berks at Semington, there is the abandoned section, the pump, and the new cut to be built on the other side of the road that when restored will use a route via the river Avon to return back to the original cut ?
Fun fact….
Verwood to Bournemouth in 1890 - 15 minutes.
Verwood to Bournemouth in 2020 - 60 minutes.
(No trains….)
London to New York in 1980 3 hours.
London to New York in 2020 6 hours.
(We are going backwards…)
R
To be fair, the Concorde doesn't actually represent anywhere near a reasonable time for 1980.
Wow, can't believe I didn't know there used to be a line down here! One to walk next year :)
Loved it esp that visit from Santa lol
Current EDS completion estimate: 03/12/2071. That's 6 months added to the estimate following the "The Railway that Behaved like a Canal - The Leicester and Swannington" video. Blimey, that's 50 years from now!
Great video this week Poole, get well soon Rebecca.
MAGD
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Part of your route and the corkscrew though which bits exactly I cant recall I have cantered over on a "big boned" horse. It was great fun and a good day out from Bournemouth.
Cool. Love the humour.
New subscriber from the United States here. I love your channel because of canals and trains and history. I wonder if they found the canals useful in the wars 1 and 2?
Loooots of canals and Tunnels coming up over the next few weeks.
A couple of visits to the local highway authority to have a look at the relevant maps and then the "fun" begins...
6.30 in, he's expressing himself.
Another excellent video - I hope Rebecca’s ankle is on the mend - I’m surprised you didn’t offer to give her a piggy back, Paul!
Brilliant as usual the hurn ie Avon Causeway the old Railway carriage was a great restaurant used to go there in the early 90s please let me know when you do the Castlemaine corkscrew to West moors near me and I will ask a good friend of mine about that right of way
hey, it’s Father Christmas giving us an early present! their reaction are hilarious, he got them good! 🤣
i assumed Rebecca was involved indirectly if she wasn’t in the video, researching is tough and you need a second set of eyes but hearing that she gives you that makes me glad my assumption was correct. plus it’s nice to know that it’s a joint effort in all ways in the videos, a true family effort
I had always presumed that Rebecca was making a contribution to the channel beyond being your comedy sidekick. Like any quality show, the face up front is only a small portion of the iceberg.
Nevertheless, you are a lucky man Paul to have such a wonderful woman as your partner. Many of us out in viewer land are a tad jealous.
Excellent. Thank you.
The title made me think , tree laying across it , giant boulders, Godzilla !!
Now , Back to the Movie !
Great Video,
Interesting as usual... 🎅👍
Lv u both.. very informative ...u bounce off each other...if that makes sense...keep it up 👊
The Santa took me completely by surprise at first
Come to America I have hours of content for you and some railway surprises no one else seems to care about but I find interesting so this town was one of the first stops on the underground railroad with the actual rail way at the bottom of the valley and homes up in top of the ridge with a cave that turns to small tunnels that connects the train tunnel in the valley to the homes in top of the ridge
Been rumors over the years that the Ringwood to Brockenhurst line might be re-instated one day as most of the track-bed land is intact except for a section at Holmsley and a new station could be built near Crow Arch Lane in Ringwood. Owner of the house that backs onto the main line by the old Brockenhurst Junction (Ringwood line) has quite a bit of "railwayana" on display in his back garden! My late mother was a serious public rights of way campaigner for many years. These are important issues I reckon. That Avon Causeway pub: People have told me that the real ale used to be so cold in there in the winter that the barman would put the pints in the microwave for a few seconds before passing them to customers!
At least you didn't catch Santa doing #2s!
I am quite surprised you didn't cover Dudmoor Lane in the video, South of the Avon Causeway pub. Lots of extent railway remains and publicly accessible on foot.
I once worked at the Avon causeway and it had a weird residual atmosphere in the hotel. Whenever I was in the carriage it felt like it was gonna leave the station any minute
I'm going to say Rebecca is very lucky to have Paul tbh
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I hope you will sometime explore the old coal lines of SE Fife, running from old coal mines somehwere near Ladybank (I think) down to the coast around Anstruther/St Monance. I found one 60 years ago, I wonder what's left now?
Interesting video.
There was a very good Ever Decreaainf Circles [comedy] episode on Public Rights of Way.
I remember watching it as a child. I now work in mapping and addressing for a living. Perhaps it had some subconscious impact in some way.
Thanks to this video I will not be leaving the usual cookies and milk for Santa but instead Crackers absolute crackers lol,
Great video and well done Rebecca with that ankle to contend with