Terry Eagleton: "The Death of Criticism?"
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- One of Britains most influential literary critics, Terry Eagleton is Distinguished Professor of English Literature at the University of Lancaster, and Visiting Professor at the National University of Ireland, Galway. In addition to his widely known "Literary Theory: An Introduction", Professor Eagleton is the author of over forty books, including "The Ideology of the Aesthetic", and "The Illusions of Postmodernism". Part of the Townsend Center for the Humanities' Forum on the Humanities and the Public World.
Terry Eagleton is a treasure.
"quantum physicists work on entities that may or may not exist, there seems to be some doubt about the matter"- Terry Eagleton. Brilliant pun and turn of phrase.
Thai is s a typical example of humorous understatement that is often made by well-cultivated British of the upper "class," to borrow a word from Prof. Eagleton's Marxist vocabulary.
that's a typical cleverness of those too clever by half who have not done anything constructive in their lives and can only "critique" (i.e. bloviate).
@@mentalitydesignvideo Critique often tends to be more interesting than the constructive thing.
@@mentalitydesignvideoCreating a guideline for critical thinking that enables people to see unique aspects of an intellectual property is a constructive thing.
@@syts77 intellectual property? like a Nike swoosh or Mickey Mouse? Yeah, that's about the level Eagleton should occupy.
4:20 for those that want to skip the intro
Hehe you said 420
Better yet skip the entire lecture. It is trite and tiresome but thats Eagleton isnt it.
@@thunorwodenson why the hell did you watch it then?
Matt Thompson In the false hope that something of value might be said.
@@thunorwodenson fair
Eagleton is a very great teacher. I have read four of his books carefully and learned a lot. He understands Western culture and philosophy particularly well. Thank you, Terry, for a life of dedication to critical thinking. The viewer's comments here are shallow and off the mark.
Exactly, ALL of them- (from one with a non-hyphenated patronymic, but still capable of tying my shoes)
I didn't know he is witty. I read two of his books. Can hardly wait to read "Gatekeeper".
Much gratitude to you for hosting Terry Eagleton. What a charming mind!
Terry Eagleton is simply excellent at projecting western culture and literature with the great sense humour.
If English is your second language maybe his jokes are more humorous.
What is western culture- the bible both old and new testament st Augustine. All are middle eastern !
The government gives us housing laws, roads,fire brigades, police, medicare, social security food monitoring, product monitoring, labor laws, weekends, minimun wage, auto safety laws, clean water, sewage, and thousands more, all of which save lives. I come from a country where the government doesn't provide those things. And thousands of people die every day as a result. Three cheers for economic freedom! Are Americans so spoiled that they don't see how lucky they are to have social insurance?
At first I was going to fast forward and skip around, but then I realized that everything he said is imaginative and solid solid substance like a great professor
É possivel postarem esse video com legendas em português??
Absolutely well done and definitely keep it up!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
34:04 Thank you Sir! Thank your for reminding that!
Literary students can't say "The poem's exuberant tone is at odds with its shambling syntax." [c.35.53] That's the kind of thing arts citicism generally should be like.
This is rambling pure and simple
Not an argument. Give reasons.
This is an intellectual video. Standards are higher in this comment section you piss stain.
Saw him speak speak at Lancaster--always a marvelous orator and thinker, even when I disagree with him.
I love how he inserts his little asides lecturing the Americans about the history of their political follies and their holes in historical knowledge :)
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Really he is one of the best critics of the literary world. I learned so many things from his literary works. Today I learned one more thing from him that how a man can enjoy a glass water as a cup of tea.
One of my undergrad lecturers had Terry Eagleton for his personal tutor at Oxford many years ago!
gee, does he have any personal relicts?
Unfortunately Hugo died a few years ago so I can't ask him.
Terry is a fiercely independent wit. His style is marked by a scintillating marriage of matter and manner.He eschews the turgidity of pedantic pedagogues of the Homi Bhabha cachet.
bloom is such an interesting and eminently readable critic
You can obviously define define government many ways. Capitalizing it usually refers to the federal government, if I understand its usage correctly.
54:41 *Faithlessness of late capitalism* “Fundamentalism is the reflex (whatever form it takes) of an extremely deep seated anxiety of people who feel they’ve been sold out or washed up or left behind or trampled over and from that anxiety comes hatred. I think it’s true perhaps that the opposite of love is not really hate (as Leopold Bloom mistakenly says in Ulysses) but is _fear._ And the other side of fundamentalism, the flip side of it, the flip side of all that ugly concentration on literal meaning and roots and our patch and our identity-is those who have no belief, no identity, who fly the skies yes. The world becomes divided between those who believe too much and those who believe too little. You know.. late capitalism in my view doesn’t really demand much belief doesn’t work by belief. As long as you roll out of bed and pay your taxes and don’t shoot too many policemen and all that kind of thing, you know the state doesn’t mind what you believe, you can believe whatever the hell you like so long as you’re not a threat to it in some way.”
Yes, but what then about Zizek’s perspective-that we _believe more than ever today._ We openly embrace a postmodern stance of cynicism toward ideology, yet through our _actions_ (market fetishism etc.) we clearly believe more than ever-that paradoxically the discussion of our ideological position functions most effectively to obfuscate our actual deeper submersion in ideology.
Both are valuable insights. I think that when Eagleton is saying that the belief isn't there he's probably talking about that which is displayed, and these contradictions are part of the dialectic that entraps us.
04:21 Terry Eagleton
The heart remains young regardless of age
The spirit remains more vibrant and active the more optimism increases
Meditation is the language of the mature mind
ALI SUROOR
I find his many digressions(i.e. being discursive)from topic to topic to be fascinating and enjoyable. Slovaj Zizek is very difficult to listen to but sometimes you can catch what he's on to between his constant tugging on his t-shirt, grabbing for words(due to english being his distant second language), etc. But of course if I was not your typical American who is monolingual, No doubt he is probably quite fluid in his native language
Wow. No commenters seem willing to engage him. All commenters seem willing to attack him. What an antidemocratic time we live in.
Thats because he is speaks the bare truth, and precisely because so, people react like automatons to an original, real and honest voice.
Paradoxical if you want.
Koopy Sandwich Commies complaining about antidemocratic sentiment. Isnt that rich! Tell that to your black masked buddies.
@@thunorwodenson everything is the same, no subtleties for people who generalize like Eric here. Don’t be like Eric.
26.42 Can someone tell me who is the literary critic Terry Eagleton speaks about? "For [...] that astonishingly pathbreaking and courageous Cambridge critic..."
Thank you
+Γιώργος Κ. It is F. R. Leavis.
Thank you !
"private companies usually charge loads more"
yes, bc public education is doing so well. oh yeah, and the military definitely doesnt waste money.
it isnt about what is being charged, the state does not charge you, it takes your money and does what it wants.
if a company doesnt serve the food it promised, they go out of business. if the state reneges on a promise, they collect more taxes. there is no incentive for quality.
if monopolies raise prices, a state monopoly only gets worse.
Name one of those developed nations without financial problems related to deficit spending by it's Government.
If government was just the sum of community, you might have a point, but it's not. You either overestimate the power of "democracy" or underestimate the need for constitutional restraints.
and what i meant to show with my examples wasn't that governments shouldn't be interfering in businesses, it was that they should always be answerable to their government .. also i know i'm very ignorant about this subject and i'm willing to have my mind changed about it if you can, i've learned that when there's an ignoramus around on the internet someone will always be sure to educate them, and i'm expecting you to show me once and for all why socialism doesn't work, giving real world examples
Well, for a moment i thought Walter Benjamin is introducing Terry Eagleton.
state education works perfectly fine around europe, that's just a problem with budgeting that you've got in the states, not with socialism in principle .. and look at your prisons, they're private and as a result of that, you've got more prisoners than any other country .. it's no solution to anything to go that way.. and there's no practical difference between the price of something and a tax, you need to look at how it works in the world
I think the Grand Narrative to come after the end History, Fukuyama version, is not that of Radical Islam, as Eagleton says here, or Clash of Civilizations, rather I think there was a sort of ten-plus years pause where everything was hanging in the air, though they may have been made up of large chunks of ultra-violence and global power transformations, those things were all Pawn moves, or, as it were virtual symantec re-codings of terms waiting for the moment of a new Parole, a briefly held out-breath exhale- and right now, at the end of 2020, that new Parole is beginning to be said - What will be spoken is going to be a narrative of contractions and collapses and rapid collisions as the Venturi Effect of dispersed atomization in reverse gluts the fragmentary liquidized globules of Capital in an entirely new set of newly unveiling necessities
. . . anyway, only 33:53 in and enjoying this lecture immensely. . .
What a great lecture. . . I've ignored him too long!
I think it was Karl Marx who said capitalism tries to quantify and and seeks to put a price on everything, even thaught and that is why thaught and usefull criticism is dead not by the government but by the marketplace. I don't want to go on a political rant here but think of people like Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck who have nearly "cornored the market on free thaught", how is that for an Orwellein vision.
It's BS, your opinion
It's about pinning down a basic conception of the good life: Health, Security, Personality, Frienship, Leisure. And it's about having the humility to say that we can't realize these solely on our own. Look, I'll make it easy. Name a developed country which does less for its people than the US. Name a developed country that has outlawed unions. Where do you want to live? Somalia? Fine, you don't like Marxism but it's completely irrational to advocate neoliberalism.
Anyone else think today’s public intellectuals are the UA-cam video essayists?
Oh yes, I'm personally fascinated by this. An interesting lecture to watch in conjunction with this one is called 'Isolation and the Composition of Long-form Fiction' by Will Self, which argues that the primary artistic medium for the 'long-form narrative' can no longer be the novel- as it has been in the nineteenth through the twentieth centuries- due to the change in the technology of dissemination. Where once we had the 'Gutenberg Mind’, which was shaped by the preeminence of the printed word, we will now have something like the ‘Internet Mind’, sculpted by the popularity of bidirectional digital media.
Harold Bloom was perhaps right to lament the decline in the popularity of reading amongst the young, but I think that view is ultimately more historically detached and interesting: the kids aren’t reading books, but they’re certainly taking in information, and at a far higher rate than they have in the past. Boredom would also seem to be a product of the Gutenberg Age. I'm regularly mocked for saying so, but I think a UA-camr like Contrapoints seems to represent a continuation/transmutation of the tradition of learned satire, employing a highly stylised form of perfunctory narrative in order to both amuse the viewer and engage in dialogue with topical intellectual currents. I’m not sure of what will replace the long-form narrative in the serious, novelistic sense of the word, but these sorts of quasi-satirical, ‘infotainment’ channels strike me as often very well-crafted and sometimes rather perspicacious.
Terry eagleton is alive?
@Zoundsism999 His marxism is "ironical"? Sounds good.
Actually I think your god's existence relies not entirely on himself, but entirely on yourself, because the only place that any gods exist is within the imagination of human beings
Read all the comments below: usual haul of US paranoia about 'Capital G' Government rather than warm-hearted, twinkly-eyed avuncular corporate big business; ultra-thin-skinnedness i.e. all criticism is Anti-American; (in the land of Free Speech) and not being able to distinguish Marx from Marxism / Socialism and Social Democracy from Stalinism etc. I absolutely agree Soviet central planning was crap, but had people with a talent for planning - Germans, Scots, Brits - had their revolutions in 1919 or 1926......what a better world there would almost certainly have been. Or would Uncle Sam have made the world safe again for US corporations as per Indonesia, Central America, Chile?
Yep, Eagleton has his faults as a cultural commentator, academic and wahtever else he is, but I know where his politics come from. Like me he 'climbed a pile of books' out of a poor working-class background in Salford (NW England). His working class humour and lack of pomposity is what makes him entertaining
I noticed everyone in the comments is trying to use as many words as possible, lol.
no, government doesnt provide any of those things. it takes money by force and says it is providing those thing. police have no obligation to protect you, and in many cities will no longer make house calls.
this is like a southern master telling his slave, "i give you food, housing, a job, and a family. are you so spoiled that you dont need any of those things?"
Three cheers for coercion an force!
His book, Literary Theory: An Introduction, had a major influence on the me of my 30s.
Tony Lombardo Sorry to hear that.
@@thunorwodenson rectifying It.... Sorry to read it
Damn his back must be hurting... carrying all these old men
No, Marxism is about the collective good or some group's well being and safety superseding the rights of the individual. The whole argument is whether you believe in Individualism or Collectivism. Collectivism is merely a codeword for Government power at the expense of Individual Rights, or what is known as liberty. I believe in Liberty, individual rights. It's apparent you do not.
Who gives an individual rights, themselves or the country they live in?
that's not 'marxism', as i understand his thinking, marx believed that the end point of history would be at an anarchistic utopia, and we'd have to pass thru democratic capitalism and socialism to arrive at it .. as far as i know, marx wouldn't have supported stalin/mao &c., or have recognized their politics as his own beliefs
Lmao, u shud try living in a gulag and make these statements
this guy is my friends dad
Poor you !
He was attacking imagination, but saying it is often been used to escape humanity and its selfishness. To travel with the mind, can't get much more higher.
Foucault, however profound or challenging, would not claim to be a "literary critic" rather a social-cultural historian & theoretician.
His comments of physics and mathematics is hilariously wrong
"businessmen answerable to"
this is an amateur mistake. a sales-person is answerable to a consumer. Walmart or Taco Bell cant FORCE you into their stores. if they do not provide satisfactory services, they dont get customers.
"what happened when all the banks started failing"
not to insult you, but its obvious you dont understand the basics; like a creationist talking on evolution. the state subsidizes and protects banks from the market. the last thing Goldman Sachs wants is capitalism.
..you can't trust businessmen with this stuff neither, can you .. and who are businessmen answerable to? look what happened when all the banks started failing, they have absolute power, governments are limited, and it would cost you even more money still to keep the big companies reined in, private companies have no incentive for anything neither except to make themselves money.. and you'd be being forced to give up your money either way, private companies wouldn't give you any more of a choice
His humor is a nice change from the usual dry and pedantic lectures in academia.
"state education works around europe"
no it doesnt. the USSR claimed great public schools too. in reality, even the best public schools tend to inhibit education....if you look at history, schools were, and are, meant to teach obedience.
"your prisons, they're private"
youre having trouble distinguishing private/public. first banks, then prisons. these are not free markets. the justice system (laws, courts, police, prisons) is 99.5% public in the US. if anything, you have indited the state.
He has sounds a lot like Stephen Fry.
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@appleschris What's wrong with Poldy?
Germany. And a number of Scandinavian countries. And many others would be fine, were it not for the neoliberal financial collapse. Also Ireland was at the top of the Heritage Foundation's "Economic Freedom Index" and its perhaps worst off out of any of them. Also corporate and rich fucks cross borders much more easily than tax and regulatory policy, and that has to change. Look I don't like arguing. I'm just trying to get you to have some decency for the innocent victims of corporate domination
stop calling me an amateur as tho you're insulting me hahaha and that's a load of bollocks, it's not the quality of service or of goods or anything else that attracts customers to big supermarkets, it's the fact that they've already got so much money and can outcompete other shops on price.. and yea that's what i said wasn't it, the banks started failing and governments wouldn't let them, happened with car companies in the states as well, and that's why they're answerable to nobody
Exhuberant tones is curiously at odds, with its shambeling Syntax
Greet it with a sheepish silence (like silence of a lambs)
Yet not being able to say things like that is a grievest disability, in literary critics like am engineer that cannot add up Like Arithmetic!
Most of us are nonplussed in TS Eliott "there's something very sad about punctuation
In a novel ideally address:
1. Tone
2. Mood
3. Address
4. Pitch
5. Pace
6. Syntax
7.Texture
8. Tambor
Content alone isn't interesting
Best components are tenacious
Certain myopia of a dial
How far should we stand
Language not only as
1. Structure
2. Meaning
Intellectual
Trade in ideas , are little too Charitable
in Cambridge finding most PhD thesis that is Surreally pedantic
Aspects of the vaginal system, of the flea
(only aspects nothing overreaching)
If academics risk peasantry
Intellectuals risk amateurism
Across disciplines not show how they're versatile, bit because they're concerned with bearing of ideas(on society, as a whole) (requires them to be conversant)
Science issue since it suffers problem handling value
Role of public individual must be carved up, shared with a sage
A mediator to
1 literature
2 ethics,
3 philosophy
Idea culture 1900s onwards
Silent if dominant notion
1 emergence of culture industry
Culture is finally integrated into
Commodity production as post moderniatscsay: the Acme the consummation
This is what we live by and this is Literature
Is it just me or does Terry sound rather deconstructivist here?
you don't seriously think that you could get all these things for free, do you? if it was loads of private companies selling you these things in stead of your government, would it leave you with more or less money in the bank than if your income was taxed?
One last thing, why do you keep capitalizing the word "Government" as if its always Big Brother. The government is your neighbor, your high school teacher, your friends, the local shop owner, the mail man: everyone in your community. I share your love of personal space and individual rights, but why not pool our resources to nulify the unchosen disadvantages of our friends and neighbors? I don't understand this fear of community. Growing up, I loved my community. Writ-large, thats government
I can still criticize this right?
Can you?
I am not gonna sit here and list the problems of society as a whole. Leftist politics is not even on the short list of my opinions on what is wrong with the world. However, I believe you have misconstrued ideas as to the intent and practice of the 1st Amendment to The United States Constitution. The Point I am making is dissenting (or non-leftist) political ideology is often silenced (in various ways) and even criticisms of certain leftist ideologies (in various ways) goes on in Public Schools.
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ugh, this guy....
poverty is cultural. it isnt like wealth is just brought forth from the earth by butterflies and rainbows. capital is the product of savings, and investment....which intern can only be brought forth by a culture of under-consumption and entrepreneurship.
this guy asks why people are poor....everyone is born poor and ignorant. and the earth is cruel and unyielding.
the real question is, why are some people able to create wealth, and how can we all be like those people.
"private companies selling you these things in stead of government"
government doesnt sell things. the state takes money by force, and claims to offer a service. making a false equivalent between voluntary action and violence is like equating sex and rape. it is incorrect and makes you look like an amateur.
furthermore, once the state takes your money, they have no incentive to offer a service, or to offer it with high quality.
so the answer is easy, you get far more with private companies.
"stop calling me an amateur"
you are making very basic mistakes. its like a creationist talking about evolution; its obvious they dont understand the system that they imagine they are critiquing.
"can outcompete other shops on price"
translation: "they can offer what the customer wants". that is a good thing.
"that's why they're answerable to nobody"
that is another indictment of the state. if anything, your examples show that bad things happen when you prevent capitalism from working.
Whether Harold or Molly Bloom, one a literary theorist the other a literary character in Joyce's imagination, Terry Eagleton might find both equally fictitious.
Greatest critic? I beg to differ too, that title belongs to Professor Foucault.
it certainly does haha never mind the ussr that doesn't exist any more, look at finland, sweden, &c .. and never mind the new debate you've tried to open up, i'm thinking in terms of the quality of education in different countries based on their PISA scores that judge kids on reading, maths, and science. .. and i realize you have public sector prisons there, i'm talking about the private ones.. and yes your banks are private, private companies can still be subsidized with state money
A cocktail party wit.
Topical comedy.
Nothing more.
I deleted a comment I made about 10 minutes ago, because I succumbed to the ugly act of "ad hominem": Terry Eagleton's cheap shots were annoying.
They still are.
Eagleton's problems with images of aliens seem to reflect his own lack of reading rather than a failure of imagination.
*lack of reality
Yes, he's a bit smug, isn't he?
Champagne Marxists are my favourite...
Russell Fowler He is from working class Salford and gained scholarship to Oxford.
...and working-class Tories are mine.
Clint Trickett He may have begun working class but he couldnt be further from it today. The left is antiWorker. The left is against working class values and are for the replacement of the working class with low wage immigrants. The academic left hates workers. They pretend to be workers in the way that Buffalo Bill pretends to be a woman.
I'm with the British Parliamentarian he mentions who argued to ban metaphor in Parliament. Here, it not surprising that someone with such fashionably air-headed political views and out-of-context anti-American historical observations argues for nebulous communication (in the name of flowery speech, I will admit). Curious how he (spinelessly?) placates religion by attributing to it 'the most transcendent truth' - which adds mystical babble to the tools in one's obfuscation toolbox (in the name of style and flair in the case of criticism - unless the subject is political, then, with his views, you do not want people to discover your folly), Ah, Berkeley - maybe he was just playing to the audience...
+Numi Who Metaphor is not simply a rhetorical contrivance of humanity. Rather it is fundamentally based in the universal correspondences actually inherent in the structure of nature. That is not to deny it lends itself to loose and sophistical misuse but really no more or less than bald demonstrative argument. If one were to use the phrase, 'truth illuminates' to mean, 'truth educates,' for example, that is not mere 'flowery speech' but a verbal recognition of the actual correspondence between visual and mental illumination. In the everyday use of language one cannot avoid metaphor, as a matter of fact: the very roots of intelligent human cognition and thus language are basically embedded in metaphorical constructions, as anybody will discover who traces the origin of innumerable words and concepts back far enough. The proper use of a concrete symbol, that is, a traditional metaphor, in place of a word or any number of words referring to an abstract quality or qualities, can effectively lend a statement deeper meaning and revealed provenance, is less nebulous and more coalescent, at least to those who know how to interpret it correctly.
im really interested in what you are *trying* to say, but i don't really understand.. i can't imagine it's stems strictly from your grievances with metaphor.. maybe when i finish the video, i don't think he is simply praising religion as much as he is criticizing what attempts to take its place..
>2018
>marxist
>intellectual
Lol
Wow insightful comment. Go piss yourself
I remember TE was popular in the 1970s among leftist students and academics in Manhattan where I went to graduate school. I’m happy he was not my professor because he seems here darn boring to me. Talk about the poverty of theory.
This guy is so unfunny
Yeah he’s not a standup; this is an intellectual lecture.
Maybe watch Bill Burr you fupping cretin?
How is a professor of literature an authority on theoretical physics or mathematics? The equivocation fallacy is strong with this one.
Timberwoof Lupindo Marxists think they are experts in all things.
so we hav found th inteligent end of yuotub? The warm spot in th e pool? Piss maybe
This from the man who throws around identity politics to shut up people who disagree with him. What you mean is "I can criticize you but you're evil to criticize me". And your book, which had a chance to make me a Marxist as a younger man, was so awful and intellectually inconsistent I was embarrassed for Marx. (Though I enjoy Marx's actual writings. Though it was far superior to Paul Johnson's 'Intellectuals', a far Right faux historical, morally bent, and petty piece of shit.)