Olympic Judoka Tries MMA For The First Time
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2023
- Olympic Judoka Ashley MacKenzie tries his hand at a pro MMA class.
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What an awesome video, Ashley was perfect for this. Could get some of the MMA guys trying Judo in the Gi next!
Yeah he was, I absolutely love his personality.
I'd love to see this. He would piece them up haha
Then it is Sambo 👍
Guys the level of content you guys are producing just keeps getting better and better
Always love seeing the GBTT guys on the video
That's the thing though, this high-level competition judoka is JUST put into the MMA format.
Give him a few months to get used to the new mindset and rules and he sweeps the room with everyone in there.
The other thing that happens to judokas when they meet the mma crowd that doesn't happen to wrestlers is that they are "shy".
In judo, you are taught to be be reserved, and to be very careful of hurting others.
So you often see wrestlers going at it like enraged bull terriers, which is why mma people perceive it as "better".
But at first , and even later on, judokas naturally lay back and are principally remain worried about non-judokas knowing full well you can easily maim any of these mma bros in a matter of seconds.
Quality banter- well done lads!
Hell yeah, love that judo's getting more credit in the MMA world!
Judo is universally accepted as one of the foundations of mma lmao what are you on about
@@ballinboxer3676 it's not a foundation style. The main 4 styles in MMA are boxing, Muay Thai, wrestling and BJJ. Secondary styles include Dutch Kickboxing, Sambo, San Shou/Sanda and Judo.
@@ronki23 lmao says who
@@ballinboxer3676 popularity. Not only in the amount of people who do secondary styles but the amount of MMA gyms that offer those styles. BJJ and wrestling are much more popular for MMA purposes because there's no gi. I think Dutch Kickboxing/ Kyokushin is better for MMA than traditional Muay Thai but Muay Thai is still more popular for MMA
Judo isn’t the best style for someone who wants to start MMA, wrestling is the best option to get up to speed.
However if you already have a background in Judo and transition to MMA, it can be very effective indeed.
Was hoping for him to get a chance to use Judo techniques against a wrestler. Would be interesting to see the challenges in the stances
I'm really digging this style of video
His accent and phrasing was the best part of the video ahaha
“i don’t have a scooby do..”
"Breathing out of my arse."
Seems like he picked up MMA wrestling super quickly.
at the end of the day, judo is wrestling in jacket
He did amazing in the grappling for never doing mma wrestling and grappling before ! A true natural athlete
One thing you have to know is that judokas are natural good wrestlers. They adapte themselves quickly when they practice wrestling.
@@fablecomtois8721 yeah I know lol
Well, he's an olympic athlete in a grappling martial art.
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What's very interesting is that old school judokas in Japan use to train this kind of full contact fighting. We still have accounts we can find from famous judokas about these ju jutsu competitions apparently there were only a couple rules like you only stop when your opponent gives up, passes out, or referee stops it. Apparently these competitions were so intense people would write letters of goodbye to their family before a fight after some stime they added more rules. Later when the Japanese got to Brazil and brought that culture along with them vale tudo was formed. Also masahiko kimura had a vale tudo match with valdemar santa but I can't rember who won.
The Olympic rule changes has changed the way Judo has been taught recently, Sambo is more similar to old style Judo
They never trained like this,they were purely grapplers.
Idk about valdemar santa, but masahiko kimura had a legendary match with helio gracie (the creator of bjj) and won with that signature arm lock. Thats why we call it the kimura today.
A lot of that sounds super made up
Vale Tudo origins isn't japanese judokas. That's bs. The origins is the called American Style Carnival wrestling. Know in Brazil as "Luta Livre Americana", "Luta Livre valendo tudo", "Luta Livre - Vale Tudo" and then only "Vale Tudo".
Sources: Maciel Welko, Elton Silva, and also Figueira, F.; Hatem, V.; Hull-Styles, M.; Manholi, M.; Milfont, C.
Very humble.. Olympian judoka, with a few months training he’d be able to use his throws here
What a humble dude, good shit man
Good on him for being humble and getting out of his comfort zone.
Love watching this type of content, reminds me of when some of the team went and trained with Ian Garry!
More live training videos would be awesome! Hell, even follow someone training for an amateur fight!
Damn following someone through their process of training for an amateur fight would be hella cool
Cool collision of worlds, love this kind of content
I believe in practicing the more styles you can then mixing it up. Judo is definitely good. It’s my heart. It definitely helps my mma and bjj using what is applicable. One thing I realized practicing Judo although it’s a strictly offensive art but for some reason from continued practice we develop takedown defense. Maybe because we are used to moving are legs a lot deeply focused we can sense or predict a shoot for a single leg depending on skil level wrestler. Although Judo is a wrestling art and in most judo schools will teach traditional judo including banded techniques carefully from time to time.
Great video Sensei! I was happy to see a judoka do so well. ✌🏼👍🏼🤟🏼
Great video, props to Ashley for giving it a go.
Quality content! Super humble guy too
Bruv this guy is funny af, more of him pls
this was awesome. reminded me of what it was like when i first walked into an mma gym.
Love these kind of videos
MMA On Point with another banger
love the switch up of content
Love these. Brilliant stuff innit?
Incorporating wrestling with your judo game will make you a monster for sure
In Serbia many judokas train sambo at same time
ashley is so funny every video he is on has me rolling he would fit in great with the b team boys
You don't see a lot of judo in MMA because most of the fighters don't prepare themselves properly. There's no gi and the stand up training isn't like judo. What you see here isn't a judo fighter preparing for MMA. It's a judo fighter taking part in a wrestling/BJJ class. It's not that he can't fight. It's that he doesn't fight that way. There have only been a few high-level judo fighters willing to adapt their fight style appropriately, but when they do, they do really well.
this is great stuff
It may have been an MMA class but they were teaching Wrestling that day. All of those moves are Wrestling moves, even the drills. That first move of the taking the guys back, that's a waist lock go behind, which is why Ashley thought it was abnormal. When Ashley was grappling with the coach, the Coach was using Wrestling. The Coach was shooting into Ashley with Freestyle takedowns.
Ashley is a great judoka. He seemed to pick up the wrestling really well.
At the end of the day judo is wrestling in a gi.
Old Judo is wrestling with gi.
How and why you would ever see one of these guys on the street and do anything less than wish then well, is beyond me. Respect to fighters who go out there and do work. 👊🏽
There is a video online where it shows all the Judo techniques used in mma.
A taste of a humble pie.
Awesome, bet the Americans will need some subtitles 😂
amazing video
killed off the second channel ay? feel like this would have gone on there
Love this
Combat sport vs Olympic sport is a crazy difference.
Another winner lads.
one thought that occurs to me, if there are no rules ofc, is that you could use peoples ears as pretty good handles for grips and positioning.
I find my Judo more useful in Muay Thai clinch fights than in wrestling, to be honest.
Interesting, I started with Judo then wrestled but I've never done any striking. Is it because you have takedowns in the clinch + Muay Thai striking?
@@RatingsFor More that judo kuzushi is very useful for setting up hard strikes. It allows me to put my opponents in the right place to land good knees, elbow strikes or head kicks when they try to break away. A freestyle wrestling low shot would usually get me a knee in the face, though Greco is still pretty useful.
@@patrickwalsh5153 that all makes sense, appreciate the reply
Judo and muay thai clinch is a great mix, you can use some judo techniques in muaythai sasae, da ashi barai, harai tsurikomi ashi, sukui nage is similar to hip sweep in muaythai etc.
Yes, and even the basic Kazushi is excellent for setting up elbows and knees.@@Todo_fighting
He competed at 132 lbs 👏
Hey guys, what happened to Caposas corner on Fight Front?
respect
This is in the newaza i dont understand how it blew his mind?
I was surprised to learn he's never done a knee-step penetration step before. I would have thought anyone who has done judo for 10+ years would at least try a wrestling or bjj class before.
Not really, no. He came up post the leg grab ban, so he's not really going to be training that. Getting your back taken while standing is very anti-judo too. BJJ is another matter but judo guys are training that for Ne-Waza not anything standing.
This guy is hilarious
Anyone else have this video buried in their feed? I saw two older videos from MMA on Point before this one. Views seem low too
Emrah Somnez. absolute legend
Beautiful attitude
Did they change the title?
Hey bro how are you please make a video on greco roman wrestling vs judo
brad picket came out at a time when Brits had Zero wrestling and he was one of the top wrestlers in his division. crazy.
Combat Judo which is NON OLYMPIC Judo should be more taught again
Good man
Is Fight Front coming back? I miss Caposa's Corner
I’m happy I can preform back takes and single legs better than a Olympic level athlete.
He'd still hip throw you on your head though.
This is the guy from Ex on the Beach?! Why was his judoka status never mentioned there
EIGHT 5 minute rounds?!?! Damn.
That’s my gym ! GB top team
Great video. If he would have had a wrestling background or old school judo it wouldn't have been as foreign to him.
Come to OKTAGON MMA :)
9:01 YOU HAVE TO BE THE ULTIMATE THE FIGHTER
BRAD “ONE PUNCH” PICKETT
He will only get better
This man picked up Judo because of Pokémon legend
I went to a mma gym last week and atteneded the wrestlig class. I'm 19 and wrestled for a year in highschool but those fellas ragdolled me. Everyone was super nice but idk if imma go back
It's definetly worth it even if you do it recreationally it's really beneficial. I've been training for 7 years now I'm not good by any standard but the benefits are too good to pass by. You never come back from training and feel like you didn't learn anything or you didn't get better
@@ghengiskhan9308what makes you say you aren’t any good? Can you get good without competing if you train a lot?
I've met Ashley over at Camberley judo club , very quick with his arm drag takedown, so basically shows you how good you gotta be for this stuff
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See what happens when the IJF banned leg grabs?
It's interesting that he instantly knows to spawl. Even though you don't shoot for the legs in Judo he still knows how to shoot his legs back super well.
Hmm yea not completely a foreign idea because so.etimes you'll move your hips back to avoid a throw or foot sweeps
Getting dominated in rolling is a hit to the ego for sure, but there is no "disrespect", come on
Hey don’t forget Pickett ragdolled Mighty Mouse back in the day
Man I really wanna have a roll 😭
Im so old that I learned single and doublelegs in judo... :(
Yeah, me too. 35 years a BB. I feel like Don Corleone over Sonny's corpse, "look how they massacred my son!"
hes very good. a very very incomplete grappler but .... hes a really good judo competitor really hi level its kinda funny becasue he will pribaly make the olympics this eyar being rnaked like 70th but he will probably get his countrys continental quota spot
under 60kg? he doesn't look that small. how's that possible while having above average muscle mass?
He has his bouts at under 60kg. Doesn't mean he's normally walking under 60s. He cuts weight, obviously, he's probably close to 73-77kg here.
Super character
Hey guys, what happened to Fight Front? I miss the weekly vids with Laughton
Fight Front still exists, however in our eyes it was very much a channel for us to experiment with new ideas and concepts within the MMA content space. See it as a playground for more ad-hoc style videos. We felt less stress wanting to pilot more silly ideas that might not have been Main Channel worthy... We also, for the most part have focussed on the main channel with deep dive, docu style narrative driven videos over the last couple of months with a few "Fight Front" ideas making it on to the channel (Like this one)
As for Lawton, he got a new job and is doing some incredible things however we do miss him for sure! Caposa's corner wasn't the same without him tbh.
Not closing the door on FF coming back with more content, we're a small team at the end of the day so we're trying to balance what goes where etc...
Hope that helps clarify a few things!
@@zacs7377 hey man thanks for the response! I understand, still love your content. Keep up the good work 👊
This kind of stuff must be extremely difficult. Whenever you're trying to "forget everything you've learned" and adopt something new (even if related), it's going to be a mental fuck the whole time. I can see MMA guys trying to compete in various other forms of "combat sports" and being disqualified because they forget what they can/can't do, lol.
I've had this problem with bjj. I come from an mma and combat ju jutsu background and when I first did bjj it really threw me off because every time I would go for a judo throw they would just lay down for me and let me get on top.
Love the video, but aren’t videos like this what FightFront was for?
I was thinking that too. Maybe they posted to a different channel than they intended
Olympic Judo destroyed the martial art of Judo
Ashley is clearly very skilled at modern judo, but it does make me worried for judo as a whole that the younger guys are not learning the older techniques. He was not well prepared for the leg grabs and that used to be a regular part of the toolkit in the sport before the rule changes. He picked it up really well but it's sad if this isn't part of his regular training.
A man named Ashley
This place is the best
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Kudo …is a mixed martial art ….
The elbow guy was just stupid, trying to show off unnecessarily. There is always a childish one like that: "I could kill you if I wanted. I'm so much better". That sucks.
This is what happens when the IJF and the Olympics step in to ruin judo for tv ratings.
Judo and wrestling have been mixing forever.
Didn't he get kicked out the GB judo team for being a twat 😂
Anybody understand anything bruv said?
Only with the help of closed captions. But then it'd put up things like "karma chameleon" 😋
Not much tbh. Good video nevertheless
Judo os superior martial art like Greco-Roman wrestling
I can't understand him
What regional accent does he have
And of course the only girl in the gym is barely dressed..
This video never shows them actually fight, don't waste your time.
I lost respect for judo after this video
It's not meant for MMA because it's gi dependant. But if you learn how to do it without a gi then you can succeed. Satoshi Ishii, Hidehiko Yoshida, Karo Parisyan, Ronda Rousey, The Noguiera brothers, Fedor Emilianenko have all succeeded with judo in MMA
The 2 best grapplers in MMA are Fabricio Werdum and Jacare. Werdum has a brown belt in judo while Jacare has a black belt in it. And in the first post I put I gave examples of plenty of fighters who do judo.