That's in reverse... In Orpheus's memories she was the one eliminated first and this one is where Orpheus' name was in his memory and he's the one eliminated first.. weird.
Oh! So this is the new cutscene, tutorial and all, very intresting.. I love the new scene here in which we can see Melly(Entomologist) and Norton(Prospector) running for their lives unlike the past tutorial with the detective (In where we play as Orpheus or so). I also love the small scene/detail in 2:32 in which it focuses on the sky/distance as black smoke starts appearing, indicating that a survivor was chaired and blasted off, in this case, it's Frederick kreiburg(Composer) I assume since both Melly and Norton are still present (that is until Nightmare could be seen teleporting to another survivor, which I ALSO assume is Norton. Reason for this is due to the old tutorial in where we play as the detective, Norton was the one who got chaired and 'eliminated'. The sudden call of Alice's name too also seems as if it was Melly trying to reach out/call for her. Not sure where Prospector came from though, but I assume he's an uninvited guest, that or he's another guest that's yet to be invited? Since there was an extra, empty seat beside Melly and between Orpheus and Alice. (Which people theorizing that it's Norton and Eli).
just wanted to make a correction, the sudden call for alice's name was actually from orpheus as a child (melly's voice is deeper and has a slight accent) i understand this comment was made before ashes of memories 2 came out though i also wanted to point out for anyone reading this that you can hear child orpheus' voice during that one optional section in the hallway at night during AOM 2 where you hear voices from the past
Logically, Alice doesn't know Orpheus died, so he wouldn't be considered dead to her. Meanwhile Orpheus knows what's going on, as he's the one who did it.
@@Ness-rk7rf Yeah I noticed that too in the Vets game? How the hell was Emma able to escape if none of the ciphers were decoded, and before the dungeon was revealed?
Could it be that the fourth survivor isn’t Opheus (and who happens to take the form if nightmare because of the whole drug use in the manor) but Frederick?
Well nightmares other name is “Orpheus” so it implies they are the same person I’m pretty sure. And there is always blue around characters that the journalist recognizes, just like there were blue in who detective recognizes. Composer does make sense since they were all together. I thought the survivor missing was someone that died who close to them but wasn’t a playable character but now with your theory I think it showed unknown because it was novelist, or maybe composer im not too sure on that. I don’t know where prospector fits into it though, like is he just a fill in? Like he wasn’t actually the person who was with them or Does he get introduce late on in the story? because journalist, novelist, composer, entomologist and composer were all there. But there was no mention of prospector. Edit: OH WAIT LOL he is fools gold. So the hunter being the survivors does support the theory.
he might be an "uninvited guest" , some sort kind of illegal participant who enter the manor game without invitation. if i remember correctly, seer also considered uninvited guest (the first uninvited guest actually)
Whaaa I thought it was actual story stuff from part 2, well that's a bummer. Interesting choice to move completely..... Does that mean the story now starts with Alice too? Or do people still do detective -> TOR -> AOM?
@@Kazxi_IDV man... Do you mean those recaps + some cutscenes in the notebook? I haven't found a way to fully replay them so if I missed it I'd appreciate the info!
IDV made a mistake! ^_^ So “ Entomologist “ and “ Prospector “ have their first names ( Melly and Norton ) but Journalist has her last name ( DeRoss ) but her actual name is Alice. and also why is the water green..
In universe Lucky Guy was a "player" who was lucky to escape, but Orpheus couldn't find enough information on him to form a profile. He has so far not had a real role in the lore, but netease seems to be trying to change that recently. I am hopeful that he will get an identity in future like Little Girl and Alice.
This confuses me a lot… the story pretty different. All I see it’s different pov, different story. Can someone pls explain the lore from latest TOR to AOM lore?
Well, it's the same story, just different perspective. In the playable cutscene in ToR, the characters had button eyes except Orpheus who had human eyes so that is all his "deduction" of what happened (meaning they could be "wrong" or just seen differently). Here, they all have human eyes, meaning this is what 100% happened. Basically, Orpheus' events of things are probably distorted by the drugs.
Well the new story is from the pov of Alice De Ross (grown up Little Girl). TOR was from the distorted point of view of Orpheus, AoM is a much more reliable telling of the story because Alice is more lucid and down to earth than Orpheus at that time. It is probably the story version that will give us answers about some mysteries
Man i imagined matpat analyzing this, this game's lore seems interesting enough for him to theorize lol
Fr but sucks that some of it was limited time to play
Fr
@@redrubyrose618 true... But he can always watch it here in youtube
Don't bring him anywhere near this place, don't let him milk this game's lore like what he did to FNaF.
@@AnotherAlastorIDVYou underestimate the power of Matpat’s ability to find lore in everything.
That's in reverse... In Orpheus's memories she was the one eliminated first and this one is where Orpheus' name was in his memory and he's the one eliminated first.. weird.
Different pov, different memory probably?
The lore tried to explain why some of the games have the same people, weird medicine... so who knows anymore
It is last story episode 1? When episode 2 come out next week or 1 year wait again?
@@orientalfighters they said its coming out at the end of the year i think
So uh composer doesn’t happen to be your favourite right?
So that's where the scenes went in the game!
The intro never fails to give me chills.
It is last story episode 1? When episode 2 come out next week or 1 year wait again?
@@orientalfighters Episode two is scheduled to come out at the end of this year according to NetEase.
Oh! So this is the new cutscene, tutorial and all, very intresting.. I love the new scene here in which we can see Melly(Entomologist) and Norton(Prospector) running for their lives unlike the past tutorial with the detective (In where we play as Orpheus or so).
I also love the small scene/detail in 2:32 in which it focuses on the sky/distance as black smoke starts appearing, indicating that a survivor was chaired and blasted off, in this case, it's Frederick kreiburg(Composer) I assume since both Melly and Norton are still present (that is until Nightmare could be seen teleporting to another survivor, which I ALSO assume is Norton. Reason for this is due to the old tutorial in where we play as the detective, Norton was the one who got chaired and 'eliminated'.
The sudden call of Alice's name too also seems as if it was Melly trying to reach out/call for her. Not sure where Prospector came from though, but I assume he's an uninvited guest, that or he's another guest that's yet to be invited? Since there was an extra, empty seat beside Melly and between Orpheus and Alice. (Which people theorizing that it's Norton and Eli).
just wanted to make a correction, the sudden call for alice's name was actually from orpheus as a child (melly's voice is deeper and has a slight accent)
i understand this comment was made before ashes of memories 2 came out though i also wanted to point out for anyone reading this that you can hear child orpheus' voice during that one optional section in the hallway at night during AOM 2 where you hear voices from the past
Alice is a gatewaiter confirmed
NOOOO, and She gate waits against an Nightmare? Nah😔
The "???" Is definitely Fredrick
so sad :(
Maybe novelist
Rip Fredrick
Darling... Don't die... 😭😭😭
@@why1503 novelist is nightmare though, they are both the same person. (orpheus)
3:32 well, I guess he is going to get norton...
Lmfaoooo fr and that’s where he died in Orpheus’s pov in 1.0
fly high orpheus prologue
I LOVE THIS LORE
It is last story episode 1? When episode 2 come out next week or 1 year wait again?
@@orientalfighters not sure when episode 2 is coming out but it's some time this year
Identity V lore try not to be inconsistent challenge: impossible
I'm confused. What is inconsistent?
@@Kazxi_IDV not staying the same throughout i think
It's more consistent than you think.
3:39
At this point Prospector was dead, NetEase error showing him alive.
Logically, Alice doesn't know Orpheus died, so he wouldn't be considered dead to her. Meanwhile Orpheus knows what's going on, as he's the one who did it.
To be fair Melly would have also been dead at this point, so I feel like it's before they both died
@@Cheeri_Oz In last year's game they died before the machines were activated.
@@Ness-rk7rf
Yeah I noticed that too in the Vets game? How the hell was Emma able to escape if none of the ciphers were decoded, and before the dungeon was revealed?
@@Cheeri_Oz Melly only got punched, it's not confirmed she was killed.
Could it be that the fourth survivor isn’t Opheus (and who happens to take the form if nightmare because of the whole drug use in the manor) but Frederick?
That’s what I was thinking too! It would explain why he visited in chapter 1, and would further prove Orpheus being the hunter
Well nightmares other name is “Orpheus” so it implies they are the same person I’m pretty sure. And there is always blue around characters that the journalist recognizes, just like there were blue in who detective recognizes. Composer does make sense since they were all together. I thought the survivor missing was someone that died who close to them but wasn’t a playable character but now with your theory I think it showed unknown because it was novelist, or maybe composer im not too sure on that. I don’t know where prospector fits into it though, like is he just a fill in? Like he wasn’t actually the person who was with them or Does he get introduce late on in the story? because journalist, novelist, composer, entomologist and composer were all there. But there was no mention of prospector.
Edit: OH WAIT LOL he is fools gold. So the hunter being the survivors does support the theory.
I wonder why Norton is there, he was never invited.
The voice that says "Alice" sounds like Melly... I hope she is okay.
he might be an "uninvited guest" , some sort kind of illegal participant who enter the manor game without invitation. if i remember correctly, seer also considered uninvited guest (the first uninvited guest actually)
melly? it’s more like kid orpheus no?
That was child Orpheus
@@insertaname967
It's a female voice.
@@Ness-rk7rf sounds pretty much like a kid though, and we know melly’s voice sounds far more deep
Whaaa I thought it was actual story stuff from part 2, well that's a bummer. Interesting choice to move completely..... Does that mean the story now starts with Alice too? Or do people still do detective -> TOR -> AOM?
The story starts with Alice now and you can only play ToR and the original prologue through the book.
sorry, whats ToR?
@@karltripsonair6889 ToR is the abbreviation of "Time of Reunion" which is the last story event we got.
@@Kazxi_IDV man... Do you mean those recaps + some cutscenes in the notebook? I haven't found a way to fully replay them so if I missed it I'd appreciate the info!
@@stray_editori The Devs said they aren't working just yet, but eventually, there will be a fix that has them restored to how they should be.
IDV made a mistake! ^_^
So “ Entomologist “ and “ Prospector “ have their first names ( Melly and Norton ) but Journalist has her last name ( DeRoss ) but her actual name is Alice.
and also why is the water green..
If you wondering journalist full name is Alice DeRoss and about the water colour is green cause ******
The water’s like that in the actual game too, might be chemical waste or something
My question is, who is lucky guy? How newbie get it since journalist become their tutorial character
He is still used in the Survivor and Hunter tutorials that are optional to play for free rewards.
A guy who got luck on his side and escaped
@@butterflylife3248 NE forgor he exist in the manor 💀
In universe Lucky Guy was a "player" who was lucky to escape, but Orpheus couldn't find enough information on him to form a profile. He has so far not had a real role in the lore, but netease seems to be trying to change that recently. I am hopeful that he will get an identity in future like Little Girl and Alice.
U forgot the unlucky guy
This confuses me a lot… the story pretty different. All I see it’s different pov, different story. Can someone pls explain the lore from latest TOR to AOM lore?
Well, it's the same story, just different perspective. In the playable cutscene in ToR, the characters had button eyes except Orpheus who had human eyes so that is all his "deduction" of what happened (meaning they could be "wrong" or just seen differently). Here, they all have human eyes, meaning this is what 100% happened.
Basically, Orpheus' events of things are probably distorted by the drugs.
@@Kazxi_IDV thank u for the explanation! :D
Well the new story is from the pov of Alice De Ross (grown up Little Girl). TOR was from the distorted point of view of Orpheus, AoM is a much more reliable telling of the story because Alice is more lucid and down to earth than Orpheus at that time. It is probably the story version that will give us answers about some mysteries
its the same story. Its just a different timeline before orpheus came to investigate the manor
Is orpheus ever coming back?
Yes, after this event finishes. So we need to wait some weeks before his return
@@somesymbols371Source: bro believe me
@@somesymbols371 What? The devs confirmed orpheus (the detective) isnt coming back to main story (for a while at least)
@@octo.p14 I thought the, said he will come back
no idea what the hell this game is or why im here
This is just like Dead by Daylight.
Es mejor que DBD, incluso.
Do ashes of memory gonna have another episode?
YES! I heard it will come out at the end of the year!
Wait so whens part 2 for AOM
Second half of this year.
@@Kazxi_IDV mean in this year?
@@orientalfighters Yes, so in a couple months it will release along side new characters and a new map + event.
@@Kazxi_IDV maybe part 2 will release for the global idv anniversary and maybe that new map will be the race coarse
HOW DO I OLAY THIS
I missed ToR how can i play it?
You can't replay it just yet. The devs said they would add it back, but we still don't know when that is (maybe once episode 2 releases).
How to get it
It's literally in the description. You need to start a new account to get this scene
Where is that from
It replaces the Detective Orpheus prologue. If you start a new account, you get this instead of his.
Cool, but I didn’t saw ANY of that
you need to start a new game with a new account if you wanna see it
@@rayysss thanks …
@@somesymbols371 you're welcome