It is still a card game at the end of the day. I think what ultimately matters, regardless of optimization, is whether or not you're having fun (both during deck building and during play).
The deck was the best that it could be for the tournament it won. The format is literally different after the tournament (sure Josh's logic for the deck improved, but so did everyone else's knowledge of the deck)
I brought the weakened version of the deck to OCG local. Basically use Cartesia to summon Granguinol and then go for Legatia with Quem for draw one and pop one, while also put Granguinol for later use. Bystial is so damn useless against Snake Eye (Rescue ACE, Fire King, Pure, Infernoid) meta. Your hope is entirely on them using Diabelstarr. In the future, Ritual Beast will also be a menace in TCG as the only thing that hold them from being tier 1 in OCG is Maxx C (they have no backup plan unlike Fire King), and they main deck Shifter and D. Fissure.
@@gulag1316 Lancea is a dead card against other decks (and unlike Maxx C, it's a side deck card), Lab is "other" right now in OCG (Shifter + Dim. Fissure also kills them). Also read my comment again, I never said that they're tier 1 in OCG.
I dunno what kinda Rit Beast you have been facing but I would love to see them lists bcz I think it is just a terrible deck. It loses to Droll & Nib most of the time and usually even stuff like Ash is enough to make them brick. Their end board is okish if you can get to it but loses to Evenly immediately. I think it will compete with Speedroid and Blackwings at most.
I love blackwing guy but if they start winning a lot of tournaments, then Konami will hit them on the banlist. Like imagine Konami hitting one of the blackwing starters to one it would literally kill the deck.
idk how to feel about pank in a runick deck. imo, one of the powerful pluses to pankratops is it's immediate on field pressure, not only being able to pop a card but also being a big 2600 body. runick decks not having a battle phase makes it just a one for one rather than a potential 2 for 1 threatening to destroy an opponent's monster by battle.
Going second, the idea is to make pank and go into battle phase before making any other plays, either forcing interruptions from your opponent or getting the 2 for 1. Nothing really stops you from playing on main phase 2. Same idea applies for evenly matched
I understand what you say but i feel pank has alot of meeits to consider it. Going 2nd summon it go BP beat something and then pop. But it has way more uses. Its a body. Its an interaction bait. It can out crazy things like specific floodgates etc. I agree its not optimal without a BP, but its still really good imo
Chat asked about Crimson Dragon to get access to another Level 10 Synchro. I'm a huge advocate for that, I'm currently messing arount with Runick Centurion (the basic idea being a Light/Dark Chaos Angel with Hugin/Trudea during Opp's turn if they go after Primera, using Runicks as a consistency engine and toolbox rather than pure advantage), and having Crimson Dragon to go into a Black-Winged Assault Dragon from there can solo you some matchups, honestly.
Have you thought about omega in the deck? You can make it with hugin + coral when hand is awkward and If you have regained up and snipe a light/dark from your opponent with it you can permanently remove it. Also can be abused with dis pater
Mr. Schmidt, would you ever consider 1 golden droplet for just 1 more runick name? Yes the first effect sucks but I can't really imagine dispelling and smiting storm are that much better
Just throw a small Diabellstar package in there. If it'll fit in my Runick Hungry Burger deck along with a Bystial and Dogmatika package, it'll fit in yours.
its either Blackwings are good rn and you lost to a good deck, or you lost to a terrible deck that you had a favorable match up against. i think we all know which one is worse lol
Blackwing is fine rn and he lost to a weird rogue (like T3) deck. I say this as a dedicated BW player entrenched in the BW community. Plenty of weird rogue decks are super playable right now. It happens, It's fine. I won't call it a fluke, as the guy he lost to was a very good BW player, but Blackwing is much stronger when it wins the die roll.
@@Petsinwinter2The thing is...even the BW community disagrees with you here. I'm in the BW discord right now and we've all come to the conclusion that Obsidian Hawk Joe is a great card, we're just split on whether we run Kris the Crack of Dawn or Jin the Rain Shadow for Joe.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher it was my own personal opinion, but we're definitely running in different BW circles, friend, because I have not heard shit about Joe other than as a lv7 for Arsenal Falcon into Kali Yuga XD
@@Petsinwinter2 Lmao nah I was messing around. It was a funny comment MBT saw where someone was saying that colourless was a good card in Darkworld and that he was in the discord where they were discussing whether to run OG Reign Beaux or Versago the destroyer to summon it. Ngl though I never even heard of people using it for arsenal falcon for the Kali Yuga lock.
2 simple explanations: - the deck surprises noone anymore after it won a YCS - the meta shifted since last format bonus reason: unlucky dicerolls tbh >.>
I feel like if you’re digging for a specific card with upstart, that card is probably a runick spell or another tuner. At that point, just play another runick or the third Ecclesia and Duality for tuners. If you wanted more Bystials then you could just play more Bystials. The only thing in here that you couldn’t play more of is Quem specifically - and Upstart is just a 1/10 chance to maybe draw Quem. As well as being bad vs droll and bad in time, upstart is also statistically more likely to draw you a one-of regained, a duplicate card, an unusable normal summon etc than the specific card you need.
I've been playing runick swordsoul burn,2 level 10 syncbros and a s:p plus draw 2 off mo-ye and coral dragon plus fountain and ecclesia adds back to hand at end phase plus burning for 3k a turn puts you on the clock 😅
hey josh have u tried runick generaider? its not a runick deck more than a generaider deck but in this format generaiders have a lot of non pop removal for the fire king deck and laeviten is really good vs the rescue ace set 4 or labs set 2
Does anyone know why he doesn’t run branded beast? I feel like especially with 1 regained it would be a great addition with little downside, expect drawing it in your opening hands… unless that is enough of a drawback
Drawing it when you are full-on engine trying to break a board makes it bad. While Regained can help you push through even with a simple draw 1. Personally, i like it for side though and even experimenting with Etude (Chaos Angel or Legatia are super easy to make while you can loop Geri/Hugin on their turn with a "bad" runick interaction for "good" draws) to empty the EMZ + 1 removal + potential Macro Cosmos.
@@babrad siding it in going first seems good at the very least, and I’ve seen some of the plays with etude which only look to add interruption, but idk how much more interruption this deck needs tbh
@@TheBluntsmith69 from my testing, I side beast vs control like other runick variants, rescue and Lab, while I opt for Etude against combo like Mannadium, Dragons and Infernoble to abuse the banish effect.
Thanks for the list, but could you do a runick fur hire spright decklist for the format, I'm still trying to figure out the ratios and I would love to get a runick experts opinion
I wouldnt play 2 Saronir, if you dont play Beast trap. That said, I am playing Beast trap and its quite good. You still prioritize Regained, but having both on the field is alot of advantage. And if you draw it, you can just discard it with hugin depending on your hand. It also recycles back your regained from the GY each end phase. Iris Swordsoul is a solid option by tagging out eclessia. In responce to a deck summon, go into Iris, then proceed to draw 2 cards. Or destroy a special summoned ED monsters. Iris Swordsoul with duality can also be turned into a Dragoon adding another form of disruption that is hard to out.
i love the deck so much i just hate how not opening three cards can make or break the deck going first, as well as getting ashed on hugin or certain cards
Ok, as a fellow Runick enjoyer, I'll finally share my secret (and fun) tech card & wonder what the expert thinks: It's Inferno Tempest. So fun(ny) to pull off in MD
@@gianmarconazzaro6796 What are you talking about? Step 0 (optional): DRNM Step 1: End of Main Step 2: Summon Hugin in BP in atttttack, discard Vision Resonator to add Fountain and add Gaia (or Saro/Lubellion) Step 3: Crash Hugin into Baronne (they will wait for Fountain, trust me), spin it back to the Extra (resource loop) then Inferno tempest the opponent (they still keep Baronne for Fountain, trust) Step 4: Use Evenly. Unfortunately now they have to negate. Step 5: Use the 2nd Evenly Step 6: Activate Fountain Step 7: Use your 2nd Runick spell for Hugin, discard DRNM since you never needed it, then add Fountain #2 + draw 2 Step 8: You drew into Runicks, because all the bystials + handtraps are gone. GG
It's funny how you can optimize a deck and then just wind up losing to things like variance and overprep that punishes playing the same thing twice.
It is still a card game at the end of the day.
I think what ultimately matters, regardless of optimization, is whether or not you're having fun (both during deck building and during play).
The deck was the best that it could be for the tournament it won. The format is literally different after the tournament (sure Josh's logic for the deck improved, but so did everyone else's knowledge of the deck)
I brought the weakened version of the deck to OCG local. Basically use Cartesia to summon Granguinol and then go for Legatia with Quem for draw one and pop one, while also put Granguinol for later use.
Bystial is so damn useless against Snake Eye (Rescue ACE, Fire King, Pure, Infernoid) meta. Your hope is entirely on them using Diabelstarr.
In the future, Ritual Beast will also be a menace in TCG as the only thing that hold them from being tier 1 in OCG is Maxx C (they have no backup plan unlike Fire King), and they main deck Shifter and D. Fissure.
they are good but not t1. lancea and lab are both good counters to it
@@gulag1316 Lancea is a dead card against other decks (and unlike Maxx C, it's a side deck card), Lab is "other" right now in OCG (Shifter + Dim. Fissure also kills them). Also read my comment again, I never said that they're tier 1 in OCG.
I dunno what kinda Rit Beast you have been facing but I would love to see them lists bcz I think it is just a terrible deck. It loses to Droll & Nib most of the time and usually even stuff like Ash is enough to make them brick. Their end board is okish if you can get to it but loses to Evenly immediately. I think it will compete with Speedroid and Blackwings at most.
Here is to hoping shifter will get hit on next list in tcg
🎵"How can this happen to me. Ive made my mistakes. Got nowhere to run"🎵
🎵"The night goes on as I'm fading away.🎵
@@epicfusion7635 🎵Im sick of this life.🎵
Kanak bringing justice on BW community
Blackwings best deck
Get rekt by birds
KRAH KRAH 🦅🦅🦅
I love blackwing guy but if they start winning a lot of tournaments, then Konami will hit them on the banlist. Like imagine Konami hitting one of the blackwing starters to one it would literally kill the deck.
@@xXInstableXx Floowandereeze hasn't been hit yet so there's some hope
idk how to feel about pank in a runick deck. imo, one of the powerful pluses to pankratops is it's immediate on field pressure, not only being able to pop a card but also being a big 2600 body. runick decks not having a battle phase makes it just a one for one rather than a potential 2 for 1 threatening to destroy an opponent's monster by battle.
Going second, the idea is to make pank and go into battle phase before making any other plays, either forcing interruptions from your opponent or getting the 2 for 1. Nothing really stops you from playing on main phase 2. Same idea applies for evenly matched
I understand what you say but i feel pank has alot of meeits to consider it.
Going 2nd summon it go BP beat something and then pop.
But it has way more uses.
Its a body. Its an interaction bait. It can out crazy things like specific floodgates etc.
I agree its not optimal without a BP, but its still really good imo
Chat asked about Crimson Dragon to get access to another Level 10 Synchro. I'm a huge advocate for that, I'm currently messing arount with Runick Centurion (the basic idea being a Light/Dark Chaos Angel with Hugin/Trudea during Opp's turn if they go after Primera, using Runicks as a consistency engine and toolbox rather than pure advantage), and having Crimson Dragon to go into a Black-Winged Assault Dragon from there can solo you some matchups, honestly.
It was nice to meet you, thanks fpr signing my ROTA. Your Playmat is insane :D
If I ever meet Josh Im def asking him to sign my QCR Simoon 😂
9:04 YAY I FINALLY GOT IN VIDEO
Have you thought about omega in the deck? You can make it with hugin + coral when hand is awkward and If you have regained up and snipe a light/dark from your opponent with it you can permanently remove it. Also can be abused with dis pater
Also called people know what your deck does now
I just wish we got a Chaos Angel reprint soon
You can try exciton knight and lv10 black rose in the extra. They work well in this deck, especially now you can have two lv4 easiler.
I was there, they were all overprepared for bystial runnick and lab matchup. Ended up 5-4 with lab, also sat next to josh round 6 so that was cool.
BLACKWING BEST DECK ! EASYYYY
15:37 knowing the banlist, this is a huge threat
Mr. Schmidt, would you ever consider 1 golden droplet for just 1 more runick name? Yes the first effect sucks but I can't really imagine dispelling and smiting storm are that much better
Just throw a small Diabellstar package in there. If it'll fit in my Runick Hungry Burger deck along with a Bystial and Dogmatika package, it'll fit in yours.
Runick Hungry Burger? This sounds spicy af, might have to fuck around with the concept myself now lmao
Thank You Tearlaments Strongest!
its either Blackwings are good rn and you lost to a good deck, or you lost to a terrible deck that you had a favorable match up against. i think we all know which one is worse lol
Blackwing is fine rn and he lost to a weird rogue (like T3) deck. I say this as a dedicated BW player entrenched in the BW community. Plenty of weird rogue decks are super playable right now. It happens, It's fine.
I won't call it a fluke, as the guy he lost to was a very good BW player, but Blackwing is much stronger when it wins the die roll.
@@Petsinwinter2The thing is...even the BW community disagrees with you here. I'm in the BW discord right now and we've all come to the conclusion that Obsidian Hawk Joe is a great card, we're just split on whether we run Kris the Crack of Dawn or Jin the Rain Shadow for Joe.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher it was my own personal opinion, but we're definitely running in different BW circles, friend, because I have not heard shit about Joe other than as a lv7 for Arsenal Falcon into Kali Yuga XD
@@Petsinwinter2 Lmao nah I was messing around. It was a funny comment MBT saw where someone was saying that colourless was a good card in Darkworld and that he was in the discord where they were discussing whether to run OG Reign Beaux or Versago the destroyer to summon it.
Ngl though I never even heard of people using it for arsenal falcon for the Kali Yuga lock.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher it's just an easy lv7 to make along with Raikiri using Steam the Cloak, not really much to it.
Tbh i enjoy playing 1 cartesia in case i strat with 1 quem+duality so i can summon the cartesia fusion into grand gaugnol and duality him into dragoon
I switched out my 3 duality for 3 upstart goblins and it was gas, took out Unicore and Alvain and added gari and lv12 legatia for more draw
Come to YCS Sydney so you can sign my Simoon
Gotta acknowledge the black birds and put some respek on their name. Same with our boi Kanak 🤣
Do you think the bystials are worth playing next format since lab will be more popular with transaction rollback in maze?
2 simple explanations:
- the deck surprises noone anymore after it won a YCS
- the meta shifted since last format
bonus reason: unlucky dicerolls tbh >.>
Play abyss and emergence and golden ss gets even better
Watched this on stream but i don't think anyone asked. Ever considered triple upstart for something like ash?
Lose harder to droll
In a deck like runicks, giving your opponent up to 3k LP hurts a lot in time
@@LvnarNeko youre not going to time g1, and then you just side it out
I feel like if you’re digging for a specific card with upstart, that card is probably a runick spell or another tuner. At that point, just play another runick or the third Ecclesia and Duality for tuners. If you wanted more Bystials then you could just play more Bystials. The only thing in here that you couldn’t play more of is Quem specifically - and Upstart is just a 1/10 chance to maybe draw Quem.
As well as being bad vs droll and bad in time, upstart is also statistically more likely to draw you a one-of regained, a duplicate card, an unusable normal summon etc than the specific card you need.
Upstart is cool but sadly activates droll which is common in the format
Lol "i haven't decided to ban blackwing like circular" is wild. Go ahead josh. I hate the triple burn dragon 🙏
BLACKWING BEST DECK. GET REKD KID
was a nice event :) Bystial Runick for the win, went x-4 but im so happy :)
I tried this list with Branded Beast and it felt so much better
I've been playing runick swordsoul burn,2 level 10 syncbros and a s:p plus draw 2 off mo-ye and coral dragon plus fountain and ecclesia adds back to hand at end phase plus burning for 3k a turn puts you on the clock 😅
List?
I love the fact that chat is filled with people spamming Tearlaments strongest 😂
hey josh have u tried runick generaider? its not a runick deck more than a generaider deck but in this format generaiders have a lot of non pop removal for the fire king deck and laeviten is really good vs the rescue ace set 4 or labs set 2
Does anyone know why he doesn’t run branded beast? I feel like especially with 1 regained it would be a great addition with little downside, expect drawing it in your opening hands… unless that is enough of a drawback
Drawing it when you are full-on engine trying to break a board makes it bad. While Regained can help you push through even with a simple draw 1. Personally, i like it for side though and even experimenting with Etude (Chaos Angel or Legatia are super easy to make while you can loop Geri/Hugin on their turn with a "bad" runick interaction for "good" draws) to empty the EMZ + 1 removal + potential Macro Cosmos.
@@babrad siding it in going first seems good at the very least, and I’ve seen some of the plays with etude which only look to add interruption, but idk how much more interruption this deck needs tbh
@@TheBluntsmith69 from my testing, I side beast vs control like other runick variants, rescue and Lab, while I opt for Etude against combo like Mannadium, Dragons and Infernoble to abuse the banish effect.
Loosing 2 of the best matchups for the deck for shure hurts
Very accurate explaination.
Calm down on the BW and Galaxy dissing you saw what they did to Fountain right? Could happen again (:
will you go to the maintal regional this weekend too?
Would you consider the fur hire variant using the Horus engine?
The fur hire version only had 6 non engine slots. The Horus would take that up completely so that’s probably not it
@@santinobuonamici151without spright it could be possible
What over sleeves do you use josh?
BLACKWINGS > RUNICK
Thanks for the list, but could you do a runick fur hire spright decklist for the format, I'm still trying to figure out the ratios and I would love to get a runick experts opinion
Is it crazy to play upstart for field spell consistency or is there just literally no space
theres no space imo
if u wanted a draw u go metalfoes fusion or the poly card. discard for hugin for plus 1 effectively
Thats called a "skill issue"
Anyone can link me the video of the regional😅
Bro I think I beat you with Vanquish Soul in Ygo Omega lol. If it were you nice duel, man.
I dont think he plays omega xD
@@florianwerk4505 Then I played someone who completely net-decked Joshua lol
@@jonanderirureta8331 well y, lot of people netdeck why wouldn't they
Why didn't you play beaver warrior
You can try runick orcust
I dont like how he repeats the same point 2-3 times like we are deaf or stupid
Goooo Champ! :D
Would you consider Assault Synchron as a lv.2 Tuner? almost free SS from Hand, Lubellion/Scarlight + assault Sync = lv.10 Synchro.
I wouldnt play 2 Saronir, if you dont play Beast trap. That said, I am playing Beast trap and its quite good. You still prioritize Regained, but having both on the field is alot of advantage. And if you draw it, you can just discard it with hugin depending on your hand. It also recycles back your regained from the GY each end phase.
Iris Swordsoul is a solid option by tagging out eclessia. In responce to a deck summon, go into Iris, then proceed to draw 2 cards. Or destroy a special summoned ED monsters.
Iris Swordsoul with duality can also be turned into a Dragoon adding another form of disruption that is hard to out.
Runick Spellbooks Joshua
Pls steel the noses
i love the deck so much i just hate how not opening three cards can make or break the deck going first, as well as getting ashed on hugin or certain cards
Runick Orcust
How sway
Ok, as a fellow Runick enjoyer, I'll finally share my secret (and fun) tech card & wonder what the expert thinks: It's Inferno Tempest. So fun(ny) to pull off in MD
nice brick
@@gianmarconazzaro6796 not when I play it. Pulled it off literally just now vs. DLink on MD and won
@@gianmarconazzaro6796 What are you talking about?
Step 0 (optional): DRNM
Step 1: End of Main
Step 2: Summon Hugin in BP in atttttack, discard Vision Resonator to add Fountain and add Gaia (or Saro/Lubellion)
Step 3: Crash Hugin into Baronne (they will wait for Fountain, trust me), spin it back to the Extra (resource loop) then Inferno tempest the opponent (they still keep Baronne for Fountain, trust)
Step 4: Use Evenly. Unfortunately now they have to negate.
Step 5: Use the 2nd Evenly
Step 6: Activate Fountain
Step 7: Use your 2nd Runick spell for Hugin, discard DRNM since you never needed it, then add Fountain #2 + draw 2
Step 8: You drew into Runicks, because all the bystials + handtraps are gone. GG
@@babradcopium play, no one gonna play that shit
@@RidzkyKidBlock imo, just copium is an understatement.
scareclaw best deck
Unicore > thypoon
Birdge
Try orcust runick the grind game is insane
I could watch Schmidty lose to blackwings all day
Agreed
You watched that? Were you there or is there an online stream somewhere?
@@xCorvus7x yes i was the hugin in Joshuas deck
Runick should be banned. More toxic than stun itself
Keep crying