She really felt that way in life, her marriage ended and she went through a lot!! But been a fan for over 50 years now she had the purest voice ever! Rip Miss Karen Carpenter!! You were loved ❤❤😢
My brother passed 4 years ago. He was 55. This was his angel. He was a 70's, classic rock and heavy metal rock fan but if he were alive today, he would still be listening to her.
I was a huge fan of the Carpenters in my late teens. I felt this song was sung for me, after several breakups that greatly affected me. At 25 I said 'goodbye to love' in reality and never looked for it again. I have spent the rest of my life 'alone'. It happens. I'm 66. I feel I've had a good life alone.
WOW! The reaction from you two was so touching! And genuine! I was fortunate to have grown up with Carpenters music. My high school days in the early seventies were filled with their wonderful music. It was easy for a young man like me to have a crush on such a beautiful young woman like Karen, with an ANGELIC voice. AND PLAYED THE DRUMS!!! Seeing her sad story unfold and her health deteriorate was hard. Wish she could have found the true love she so desperately sought and so richly deserved. 50 years later and this still brings a tear to my eye. Yes, God is love. And he is enjoying her ANGELIC voice now. Rest in peace beautiful girl! Very nice and heartwarming reaction from you guys. Keep up the good work!
My vote for most heart wrenching Carpenters song is "I Need To Be In Love" Quote: "I used to say no promises , let's keep it simple--but freedom only helps you say goodbye..."
this is hands down my favorite Carpenters song. it’s heartbreaking. I can relate to the lyrics 100% unfortunately. I’m 55 years old and I have given up on ever finding love. it’s just not in the cards for me and I have accepted it.
Ditto. I've loved this song since I was 13. I've had a number long relationships. Then a marriage that ended after 14 years. That was 15 years ago. I'm 65 & I'm fine being alone.
This is probably my favorite song of theirs. It was relatively early in their career. The vocals and guitar solo at the end are just awesome. I feel honored to have grown up at the time they were popular. I'll never forget listening to radio that morning and hearing that she had passed away. It was so sad.
At the beginning of the song the line "time and time again the chance for love has passed me by and all I know of love is how to live without it..." is sung on a single breath... I was so fortunate to meet Karen and Richard several times and her perfect pitch and three octave range is unlike any contemporary female singer I can think of... ❤️
Yes, KC did feel the way this lyric suggests, at least eventually...if probably not as early as 1972 when this song appeared. The irony is that Goodbye To Love was written around the title, which was repeatedly mentioned in an old Bing Crosby movie called Rhythm On The River. There's no actual song by that name in the movie, but Richard saw it on TV one evening, liked the title, and he and John Bettis wrote the song around it. Retrospectively it's reflective of Karen's life story. Quite a few Carpenters songs are that way, usually unintentionally, whether they're their own (Eve, Only Yesterday, Goodbye To Love) or covers (Solitaire, A Song For You). Another interesting detail about Goodbye To Love is Tony Peluso's electric guitar solo work. That was Richard's idea, and in the process he and Tony invented a new pop subgenre, the power ballad.
This song eerily ended up resembling her real life marriage years after this song was recorded. Karen could be very sweet and fun loving but she also battled depression. One of the most comprehensive biographies that I've ever read about her is "Little Girl Blue "
This is one of my favorite Carpenters songs. It ties with "Love Me For What I Am" and "Trying To Get The Feeling Again" for the second-place position, below "I Need To Be In Love" (which is my very favorite song). I think it speaks to the feeling that so many people have when it seems that is all that life holds for them, a life alone with no hope of love. Concerning the last line, they added it just to provide a bit of hope despite a very bleak situation.
Never mind the sad heartbreaking lyrics which was quite foretelling, the song is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to sing with the long no breath lyrics/runs, and Karen of course sings it beautifully and with ease...
I listened to this song every Saturday night during parts of high school & sometimes during college. I had a caring boyfriend in high school but broke up with him because I didn’t feel that I was good enough for him. After an unplanned divorce, I still listen to this song.
I would highly recommend y'all find the documentary close to you remembering the Carpenters featuring many interviews including her brother Richard who was The Mastermind...
Not sure if this has been mentioned but she died from complications from her long battle with an eating disorder. I was very young when The Carpenters were out but my parents had 1000s records and LPs. I do remember playing The Greatest Hits album so often!!
I AM 61 years old and I have actually live this life. It's is so very hard and extremely lonely. There is no one for me.😭💔 This song is so real for me. There is no hope for me. I knew very young that I was meant to live my life completely alone and without love and cry myself to sleep most nights.😢 I gave up on love a long time ago.
Shawn and Mel, I’m surprised you didn’t know this song. It’s historic in a number of ways. It’s written by Richard Carpenter and John Bettis, supposedly about John but really about Karen. She was 22 here which makes it extra sad. Also in the third verse Karen sang 26 syllables with no breath. That was like a torture run. Its place in history is as the first Power Ballad. That was Tony Peluso on fuzz guitar. When anyone covers this song, they don’t usually make the 26 syllable run. They breathe in a place like any other song. There is one who has sung that part with no breath. This is in honor of Karen, sing the song the way she did. It was Tori Holub. Linked below, it’s a short but has the no breath 26 syllable run. Joe ua-cam.com/users/shortslzGAhBT-zTg?si=ODbOdQ_XRqtgW7b3 .
This has a sad sentiment, but she does add that someday she may find that she's been wrong. And the hard rock guitar solo in a ballad was unheard of at this time.
But that guitar...Tony Peluso(R.I.P)! They actually got hate mail for the guitar solo in this song because some people didn't feel like it was the "Carpenters image". This really did seem like Karen's theme song, unfortunately. She never did find the love of her life. She had a "list" of what she wanted in a guy. They were just so busy touring, there was never time to meet anyone as well as being wary of people just wanting her for that "image". :/
I loved the guitar solo but I tire of people raving about that instead of the whole song, that's where I draw the line...it was an experiment not a religous awakening of guitar solos for metal heads.
What makes these lyrics so very sad is that she must have been hurt so deeply. Karen was never plump, but someone, at some time made her feel fat. Karen couldn't see that she was good enough, pretty enough and slim enough just the way she was. She must have made guys fall in love with her angelic voice, but singers spend so much time on the road. And so many guys are users and con men who might want her money. Stardom is so isolating. If ever there was a lady in an ivory tower, waiting to be rescued, Karen was that lady. Sadly, she was not rescued and the world lost Karen and her talent.
@@sandramoore Seems like I read long ago that when she met him he claimed not to know who she was. He courted her and proposed, listening to her plan a future that included children. He had a son from a previous marriage but didn't tell her until after they were married that he had had a vasectomy
Oh, my goodness, Karen...she reaches in and grabs my heart, as she has for the past fifty years. Please watch 'Starving for Perfection', the excellent 2023 documentary about Karen. It features never before interview recordings.
When you learn about Karen’s life, her songs are devastatingly sad and affect you so profoundly. You grieve for her life that led to her tragic death. Karen left her beautiful voice behind that we could learn from her and have hope for a better life than hers. This is what I believe.The purest voice we were blessed to hear. 🩷
The guitar solo was such a shock at the time but it helped to create what is regarded as the world's first power ballad. Think of Taylor Swift doing expletive-filled punk and you get an idea of how shocked people were.
With this song being a bit of a departure than their usual sound with the guitar solo, they caught some flak from the record company and some fans thinking they were going more "rock". But they proved them wrong and is one of their biggest hits, and one of my favorites.
Karen was phenomenal and her story heartbreaking 😢❤💔 when they released this song they were already very popular so Richard wanted to do something different with the great guitar solo that the studio did not like but because of their success Richard won out. An epic song from a group that was EPIC
You both need to watch the Karen Carpenter UA-cam movie. She had remarkable talent but her mother told her to downplay her talent so her brother Richard Carpenter would get more accolades. Her story is very sad. We are blessed to have her music
I love the tv movie on UA-cam , but as good as it is, we need a major motion picture about the Carpenters , it sure who would direct it or who would start in it as Richard and Karen …
Shawn and Mel both of you really care and love Miss Karen Carpenter. Please dive deeper into Karens life to see why she had so many problems and issues. IMO the problem stemmed from her very own mother, never giving Karen the love she needed , wanted, begged for, support, and encouragement. Her mother, Agnes Carpenter even couldn't tell Karen she loved her during a counseling session. But please don't take my word for it, read books written and movies made on The Carpenters and form your own opinion.
She really wanted to get married and have children, but she married a man who had a vasectomy and didn’t tell her before he married her. The marriage ended.
She married the wrong and jerk man(sorry for the word)but it's true...that's why she ended so badly...Karen always search for a love that she can own it for herself...but the only love she can't see is the love from her millions of fans that love her very much..and the only regrets is if only she saw this love of her fans,maybe we could saved her life longer...but we are thankful that she left this beautifuln music that we are enjoying now and more time comes...she hit your heart?i almost there.
That is one of the biggest problem with fame. You can never trust even the closest to you to be pure and not be corrupted in some fashion. She was the 2nd child and Richard was the Golden one. He mother was completely controlling down to everything with them and Karen never lived up to her expiation. She loved playing drums better that singing and did both but she overheard record exect's talking about her weight and pulling her from behind the drums in front live she went into the whole of believing she was not good or thin enough for everyone so she developed this mental disease of anorexia-nervosa where she literally starved herself to death. She would lie about eating when she didn't.
As it's been mentioned, this was written by Richard and his writing partner John Bettis, I think it probably reflects Richard's feelings more than it does Karen's. I'd even speculate that the little glimmer of hope, the caveat written into the song, is there because Karen wouldn't have sung it otherwise, and Richard knew that. Don't get me wrong, the song is a self-fulfilling prophecy for how things turned out, and that's heartbreaking, but I don't think it necessarily reflected her feelings at the time. That's my hot take, anyways.
Unfortunately, putting an electric fuzz guitar solo on this, although a new novelty back then, has become the focus of the song when new folks hear it, rather than the song as a whole, the content. Suddenly the words "Power Ballad" comes out of their mouths, which as a musican bores the hell out of me. At the time it was something no one was doing, it was a stand alone unique thing, no need to ctetorize the song as a this or that to satisfy your musical need to fulfill your testosterone reassurance ritual...Thank you Shawn and Mel for recognizing the whole content of the song intelligently.
She really felt that way in life, her marriage ended and she went through a lot!! But been a fan for over 50 years now she had the purest voice ever! Rip Miss Karen Carpenter!! You were loved ❤❤😢
My brother passed 4 years ago. He was 55. This was his angel. He was a 70's, classic rock and heavy metal rock fan but if he were alive today, he would still be listening to her.
That's gut wrenching no matter how many times I hear it. Rip...
The guitar solo at the end wrapped this magnificent song in a beautiful red ribbon bow.
Great song. Great reaction. You guys are fun to watch.
Simply beautiful, beautiful woman, beautiful voice, beautiful song!!!!!!
I was a huge fan of the Carpenters in my late teens. I felt this song was sung for me, after several breakups that greatly affected me. At 25 I said 'goodbye to love' in reality and never looked for it again. I have spent the rest of my life 'alone'. It happens. I'm 66. I feel I've had a good life alone.
I'm here with you. It's my song.
Sadness, melancholy, Beautiful and emotional
Such a very sad song. I love the carpenters they made such beautiful music😢
One of the most powerful (and beautiful) “broken heart” songs ever written! 💔🌟✌️
One of my Favorites of the Carpenters.....
This is the quintessential Carpenters song. It has EVERYYHING! Enjoy!!!
her life was beautiful and tragic at the same time
@@michaelasay8587 you may want to research her death. she did not kill herself.
@@jobill8487 It was certainly not intentional suicide. She couldn't have understood her condition. She didn't mean to starve herself to death.
@@sandramoore I agree with you-that was what I was trying to impress upon michaelasa8587.
WOW! The reaction from you two was so touching! And genuine! I was fortunate to have grown up with Carpenters music. My high school days in the early seventies were filled with their wonderful music. It was easy for a young man like me to have a crush on such a beautiful young woman like Karen, with an ANGELIC voice. AND PLAYED THE DRUMS!!! Seeing her sad story unfold and her health deteriorate was hard. Wish she could have found the true love she so desperately sought and so richly deserved. 50 years later and this still brings a tear to my eye. Yes, God is love. And he is enjoying her ANGELIC voice now. Rest in peace beautiful girl!
Very nice and heartwarming reaction from you guys. Keep up the good work!
My vote for most heart wrenching Carpenters song is "I Need To Be In Love" Quote: "I used to say no promises , let's keep it simple--but freedom only helps you say goodbye..."
It was Karen's favorite song she did with their act.
this is from '73, written by Richard & his lyricist John Bettis . Another Top 10 hit, featuring Tony Peluso on guitar. ------------MJL, 77 y/o
this is hands down my favorite Carpenters song. it’s heartbreaking. I can relate to the lyrics 100% unfortunately. I’m 55 years old and I have given up on ever finding love. it’s just not in the cards for me and I have accepted it.
Same.
It’s when you quit looking that it will find you. That’s how it happened for me. 34 years strong❣️
Ditto. I've loved this song since I was 13. I've had a number long relationships. Then a marriage that ended after 14 years. That was 15 years ago. I'm 65 & I'm fine being alone.
56 here. I'm happy I didn't cling to a bad person out of desperatoin.
@@chrispavlich9656 I quit 20 years ago. Please stop telling people that lie.
This is probably my favorite song of theirs. It was relatively early in their career. The vocals and guitar solo at the end are just awesome. I feel honored to have grown up at the time they were popular. I'll never forget listening to radio that morning and hearing that she had passed away. It was so sad.
At the beginning of the song the line "time and time again the chance for love has passed me by and all I know of love is how to live without it..." is sung on a single breath... I was so fortunate to meet Karen and Richard several times and her perfect pitch and three octave range is unlike any contemporary female singer I can think of... ❤️
Love the fuzz guitar solo at the end! Classic!!!
One of my favorite Carpenters song, the song almost has a Beatles vibe to it.
One of my favorite songs by anyone.
What a singer
Yes, KC did feel the way this lyric suggests, at least eventually...if probably not as early as 1972 when this song appeared. The irony is that Goodbye To Love was written around the title, which was repeatedly mentioned in an old Bing Crosby movie called Rhythm On The River. There's no actual song by that name in the movie, but Richard saw it on TV one evening, liked the title, and he and John Bettis wrote the song around it. Retrospectively it's reflective of Karen's life story. Quite a few Carpenters songs are that way, usually unintentionally, whether they're their own (Eve, Only Yesterday, Goodbye To Love) or covers (Solitaire, A Song For You).
Another interesting detail about Goodbye To Love is Tony Peluso's electric guitar solo work. That was Richard's idea, and in the process he and Tony invented a new pop subgenre, the power ballad.
This song eerily ended up resembling her real life marriage years after this song was recorded. Karen could be very sweet and fun loving but she also battled depression. One of the most comprehensive biographies that I've ever read about her is "Little Girl Blue "
Her husband was rotten and I've always thought his treatment of her contributed indirectly to her passing 😡
One of the first power ballads!
Yawn....it is the Carpenters, not a category then...
She lived a sad life ❤
Mel, were you worried about finding the right person? But look who came in your life, Shawn! A very loving and caring man. I love you guys!
Great reaction guys! You hit a home run with your evaluation of this song. It is very sad.
This song is composed by her brother, Richard, and John Bettis
CLOSE TO YOU,
RAINY DAYS AND MONDAYS,
SUPERSTAR,
WE'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN.
One Take Karen! This is all she needed to get it right. Such a great time to be alive i am greatful to have grown up with music like this
Hi Shawn and Me-eee-ellll, love from Texas! ❤
This is one of my favorite Carpenters songs. It ties with "Love Me For What I Am" and "Trying To Get The Feeling Again" for the second-place position, below "I Need To Be In Love" (which is my very favorite song). I think it speaks to the feeling that so many people have when it seems that is all that life holds for them, a life alone with no hope of love. Concerning the last line, they added it just to provide a bit of hope despite a very bleak situation.
Never mind the sad heartbreaking lyrics which was quite foretelling, the song is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to sing with the long no breath lyrics/runs, and Karen of course sings it beautifully and with ease...
I made note of the 26 syllables and who can also sing it that way. Most if not all others, breathe.
This song gets me!!! I can relate to this song.
I listened to this song every Saturday night during parts of high school & sometimes during college. I had a caring boyfriend in high school but broke up with him because I didn’t feel that I was good enough for him. After an unplanned divorce, I still listen to this song.
I would highly recommend y'all find the documentary close to you remembering the Carpenters featuring many interviews including her brother Richard who was The Mastermind...
Every time I hear this song it chokes me up a timeless song of the Carpenters rip Karen Carpenter
Not sure if this has been mentioned but she died from complications from her long battle with an eating disorder.
I was very young when The Carpenters were out but my parents had 1000s records and LPs. I do remember playing The Greatest Hits album so often!!
I AM 61 years old and I have actually live this life. It's is so very hard and extremely lonely. There is no one for me.😭💔 This song is so real for me. There is no hope for me. I knew very young that I was meant to live my life completely alone and without love and cry myself to sleep most nights.😢 I gave up on love a long time ago.
I know.
You’re not alone. I am 62 and never married. But go on with life best as I can. Like Karen’s other song, I know I need to be in love.
You should check out Carpenters We've Only Just Begun. Love you Shawn and Mel
The power of music and lyrics!! 😳😬
It is like the blues.....some of the most beautiful music comes out of pain.
The Carpenters could cover any song (no matter how dire) and make it sound great, no such thing as a bad Carpenters song.
A voz da Karen não precisa falar né? Mais o solo de guitarra é espetacular
Shawn and Mel,
I’m surprised you didn’t know this song. It’s historic in a number of ways. It’s written by Richard Carpenter and John Bettis, supposedly about John but really about Karen. She was 22 here which makes it extra sad. Also in the third verse Karen sang 26 syllables with no breath. That was like a torture run. Its place in history is as the first Power Ballad. That was Tony Peluso on fuzz guitar.
When anyone covers this song, they don’t usually make the 26 syllable run. They breathe in a place like any other song. There is one who has sung that part with no breath. This is in honor of Karen, sing the song the way she did. It was Tori Holub. Linked below, it’s a short but has the no breath 26 syllable run.
Joe
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This has a sad sentiment, but she does add that someday she may find that she's been wrong. And the hard rock guitar solo in a ballad was unheard of at this time.
Thank you, THAT is the way to put it. Not "Power Ballad" there was no such thing back then.
On the LP and while wearing headphones, you can hear Karen inhale just before going into the first line of the song.
One of the first Power Ballads.
Love you Shawn and Mel! You're the BEST!!! 💖💖
But that guitar...Tony Peluso(R.I.P)! They actually got hate mail for the guitar solo in this song because some people didn't feel like it was the "Carpenters image". This really did seem like Karen's theme song, unfortunately. She never did find the love of her life. She had a "list" of what she wanted in a guy. They were just so busy touring, there was never time to meet anyone as well as being wary of people just wanting her for that "image". :/
And the one man she married was an absolute jerk
@@samueltabo3390 Or as some say a crook !!!
I loved the guitar solo but I tire of people raving about that instead of the whole song, that's where I draw the line...it was an experiment not a religous awakening of guitar solos for metal heads.
What makes these lyrics so very sad is that she must have been hurt so deeply. Karen was never plump, but someone, at some time made her feel fat. Karen couldn't see that she was good enough, pretty enough and slim enough just the way she was. She must have made guys fall in love with her angelic voice, but singers spend so much time on the road. And so many guys are users and con men who might want her money. Stardom is so isolating. If ever there was a lady in an ivory tower, waiting to be rescued, Karen was that lady. Sadly, she was not rescued and the world lost Karen and her talent.
Spot on about con men. Alas in 1980 KC married one...splitting up about a year later.
@@stevetournay6103 I thought that might have been what happened with her marriage. She deserved so much better.
@@sandramoore Seems like I read long ago that when she met him he claimed not to know who she was. He courted her and proposed, listening to her plan a future that included children. He had a son from a previous marriage but didn't tell her until after they were married that he had had a vasectomy
Oh, my goodness, Karen...she reaches in and grabs my heart, as she has for the past fifty years. Please watch 'Starving for Perfection', the excellent 2023 documentary about Karen. It features never before interview recordings.
There was often songs they did that were either dark or negative toward love. They always managed to present their music in a positive way and sound.
When you learn about Karen’s life, her songs are devastatingly sad and affect you so profoundly. You grieve for her life that led to her tragic death. Karen left her beautiful voice behind that we could learn from her and have hope for a better life than hers. This is what I believe.The purest voice we were blessed to hear. 🩷
The guitar solo was such a shock at the time but it helped to create what is regarded as the world's first power ballad. Think of Taylor Swift doing expletive-filled punk and you get an idea of how shocked people were.
My teenage angst song ❤
Never be another Karen Carpenter!!!!! Love you Shawn and Mel. 2Cor4:18
This is very much like the song I'm Through With Love
With this song being a bit of a departure than their usual sound with the guitar solo, they caught some flak from the record company and some fans thinking they were going more "rock". But they proved them wrong and is one of their biggest hits, and one of my favorites.
Karen was phenomenal and her story heartbreaking 😢❤💔 when they released this song they were already very popular so Richard wanted to do something different with the great guitar solo that the studio did not like but because of their success Richard won out. An epic song from a group that was EPIC
i truly believe GOD Looked down and thought this is crazy..she needs to be here to welcome everyone coming through gates..I swear I believe it..
I don't believe in God, but I believe your comment is a beautiful sentiment.
Please do SING by Carpenters next !
Karen was married briefly, as I recall but found that basically the guy married her for her money?? Pls correct me if i got any of that wrong 💚🎵🎶
No, unfortunately, you're right...
She died the day she was to go sign the divorce papers.
You both need to watch the Karen Carpenter UA-cam movie. She had remarkable talent but her mother told her to downplay her talent so her brother Richard Carpenter would get more accolades. Her story is very sad. We are blessed to have her music
I love the tv movie on UA-cam , but as good as it is, we need a major motion picture about the Carpenters , it sure who would direct it or who would start in it as Richard and Karen …
Surprisingly enough this song along with I Need To Be In Love are Karens favourites.
It's a song, it's not real life! It was releasd in 1972, she was only 22. She lived with her parents until 1974! It is just a damn song!
Shawn and Mel both of you really care and love Miss Karen Carpenter. Please dive deeper into Karens life to see why she had so many problems and issues. IMO the problem stemmed from her very own mother, never giving Karen the love she needed , wanted, begged for, support, and encouragement. Her mother, Agnes Carpenter even couldn't tell Karen she loved her during a counseling session. But please don't take my word for it, read books written and movies made on The Carpenters and form your own opinion.
You guys need to check out Brand New Heavies-Never Stop.
Wow that came out of left field! That's a great jam ❤
Can you do “Chip-Can’t run out of bars”? 🇬🇧
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She really wanted to get married and have children, but she married a man who had a vasectomy and didn’t tell her before he married her. The marriage ended.
She married the wrong and jerk man(sorry for the word)but it's true...that's why she ended so badly...Karen always search for a love that she can own it for herself...but the only love she can't see is the love from her millions of fans that love her very much..and the only regrets is if only she saw this love of her fans,maybe we could saved her life longer...but we are thankful that she left this beautifuln music that we are enjoying now and more time comes...she hit your heart?i almost there.
That is one of the biggest problem with fame. You can never trust even the closest to you to be pure and not be corrupted in some fashion. She was the 2nd child and Richard was the Golden one. He mother was completely controlling down to everything with them and Karen never lived up to her expiation. She loved playing drums better that singing and did both but she overheard record exect's talking about her weight and pulling her from behind the drums in front live she went into the whole of believing she was not good or thin enough for everyone so she developed this mental disease of anorexia-nervosa where she literally starved herself to death. She would lie about eating when she didn't.
As it's been mentioned, this was written by Richard and his writing partner John Bettis, I think it probably reflects Richard's feelings more than it does Karen's. I'd even speculate that the little glimmer of hope, the caveat written into the song, is there because Karen wouldn't have sung it otherwise, and Richard knew that. Don't get me wrong, the song is a self-fulfilling prophecy for how things turned out, and that's heartbreaking, but I don't think it necessarily reflected her feelings at the time. That's my hot take, anyways.
Can u play Elvis it's over aloha from Hawaii 1973 and Dolly Parton me and little Andy
Karen never did find true love.
It's just a song...
That guitar solo was a big deal back then, almost scandalous.
Super long chorus to begin without taking a breath
Unfortunately, putting an electric fuzz guitar solo on this, although a new novelty back then, has become the focus of the song when new folks hear it, rather than the song as a whole, the content. Suddenly the words "Power Ballad" comes out of their mouths, which as a musican bores the hell out of me. At the time it was something no one was doing, it was a stand alone unique thing, no need to ctetorize the song as a this or that to satisfy your musical need to fulfill your testosterone reassurance ritual...Thank you Shawn and Mel for recognizing the whole content of the song intelligently.