Good info video. Though one thing i keep hearing for a while and seen it on other peoples video is that down the rabbit hole was/still is bugged on some maps or even all maps in the sense that it doesnt highlight for the stated amount of time on each level or not at all depending on the well that was used? It sort of seemed that way on slaughter house.
Thank you. From what I have seen so far it always triggered for me everytime I saw a victim taking a well. But even if that is the case the devs are probably going to fix that soon, since the new devs are doing an amazing job. I try to pay more attention to that and come back here to tell you my experience. Maybe we even test that in custom games.
@@kenvazquez548 Okay so we did some custom games and tried out everything. here are the answers: - rough cut deactivates if you hit a victim with an overhead first. The weird part is that if you hit a victim with a m1 first then it will trigger on that victim the whole game. On an overhead or normal M1. The moment your first hit on another victim will be an overhead the perk stops working for the rest of the game. Even on the victims that you hit with a M1 first and ther perk was working on that victim before. - Hands's barge does not remove a no sell stacks. The barge always deals the same damage tho. And after the no sell stacks are gone the victim will take normal damage for the rest of the game from hits. So barging a victim one or more than once while he has no sell does not make him have infinite no sell stacks. - And yes, down the rabbit hole is bugged, we couldn't figure out what exactly causes the bug. We have an idea that it has maybe something to do with having a victim with stunt double level 3 in the game or if there is a leland game or if that just happens sometimes in a game. We played slaughter house for all the tests we did and we took the same well first every time we did and sometimes it was only highlighting a victim for 8 sec and sometimes for the full 15 sec. Whenever it was only 8 sec tho the perk did also not light up. But in the end we spend a lot of time and couldn't really figure out what is causing it and gun is not paying us enough money to do 200 customs to find the exact reason. So after that I would say running down the rabbit hole does still what it is supposed to do even if it is bugged but I would not take rough cut before they fixed it. Hope I was able to clarify some things and help you.
@@Tarcany_ very nice university level research Tarcany✌😀. That is interesting how rough cut is all over the place depending on tbe events in the game. I thought down the rabbit hole was bugged in purpose perhaps because if it wasn't many people would say it's too overpowered at level 3 with 17 seconds of highlighting a victim.
@@kenvazquez548 Sometimes it highlights for 17 seconds and yes then it is very strong. But I would not say OP. The fun part is that down the rabbit hole is the only perk that does not give the notification for the victim that they are highlighted. Every other (dinner bell, cook mark) shows up for the victims. I can see the devs fixing the perk and giving the victims the info that they are highlighted in the future
Do you maybe have rough cut level 1? Because if that is the case rough cut never lights up because it is only one second. If it is bugged I believe in the new devs to fix that. But if it is not bugged it is amazing. I think having 30 toughness is used alot for victims and for 30 toughness you have the exact amount of damage to kill a victim with a single overhead into m1 and then rough cut will make them bleed out. And sometimes the victims are not full hp and I started to run a bit more than 30 toughness (33-35) on most of my victims which means that if I am not full hp rough cuts will make me bleed out after I get hit by him
@@Tarcany_ i have rough cut on lvl 3 im prob gonna put it back on even if it doesnt work everytime its still better then pack animal i just wanted to try it out
@@chiarenza451 How can you tell? Does it not light up everytime you hit someone? Or did you test that with someone? If that is the case I will report that to the devs and hope they fix it. But yeah even if it just works 10 % of the time it is proly still better than pack animal. If you wanna put something else I would go siphon or blood banker just so I get more blood after a kill to feed grandpa :D
@@Tarcany_ I know nicknasty was saying it on stream he felt that y they gave him serrated. But yeah I don't see it pop every time it could be a visual thing
@@chiarenza451 Thanks for letting me know. I will write that down and test it in custom games as soon as possible. I will let you know here once I discovered more about that.
Yes, sadly. But he devs already said that they are aware of it and looking into fixing the problem. So there is a chance that it is going to be fixed after the next patch :D
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Good info video. Though one thing i keep hearing for a while and seen it on other peoples video is that down the rabbit hole was/still is bugged on some maps or even all maps in the sense that it doesnt highlight for the stated amount of time on each level or not at all depending on the well that was used?
It sort of seemed that way on slaughter house.
Thank you. From what I have seen so far it always triggered for me everytime I saw a victim taking a well. But even if that is the case the devs are probably going to fix that soon, since the new devs are doing an amazing job. I try to pay more attention to that and come back here to tell you my experience. Maybe we even test that in custom games.
@@Tarcany_ ah very goid idea✌😀
@@kenvazquez548 Okay so we did some custom games and tried out everything. here are the answers:
- rough cut deactivates if you hit a victim with an overhead first. The weird part is that if you hit a victim with a m1 first then it will trigger on that victim the whole game. On an overhead or normal M1. The moment your first hit on another victim will be an overhead the perk stops working for the rest of the game. Even on the victims that you hit with a M1 first and ther perk was working on that victim before.
- Hands's barge does not remove a no sell stacks. The barge always deals the same damage tho. And after the no sell stacks are gone the victim will take normal damage for the rest of the game from hits. So barging a victim one or more than once while he has no sell does not make him have infinite no sell stacks.
- And yes, down the rabbit hole is bugged, we couldn't figure out what exactly causes the bug. We have an idea that it has maybe something to do with having a victim with stunt double level 3 in the game or if there is a leland game or if that just happens sometimes in a game. We played slaughter house for all the tests we did and we took the same well first every time we did and sometimes it was only highlighting a victim for 8 sec and sometimes for the full 15 sec. Whenever it was only 8 sec tho the perk did also not light up. But in the end we spend a lot of time and couldn't really figure out what is causing it and gun is not paying us enough money to do 200 customs to find the exact reason.
So after that I would say running down the rabbit hole does still what it is supposed to do even if it is bugged but I would not take rough cut before they fixed it. Hope I was able to clarify some things and help you.
@@Tarcany_ very nice university level research Tarcany✌😀. That is interesting how rough cut is all over the place depending on tbe events in the game. I thought down the rabbit hole was bugged in purpose perhaps because if it wasn't many people would say it's too overpowered at level 3 with 17 seconds of highlighting a victim.
@@kenvazquez548 Sometimes it highlights for 17 seconds and yes then it is very strong. But I would not say OP. The fun part is that down the rabbit hole is the only perk that does not give the notification for the victim that they are highlighted. Every other (dinner bell, cook mark) shows up for the victims. I can see the devs fixing the perk and giving the victims the info that they are highlighted in the future
I been doing scout rabbit hole and pack animal I fee like rough cut never works
Do you maybe have rough cut level 1? Because if that is the case rough cut never lights up because it is only one second. If it is bugged I believe in the new devs to fix that. But if it is not bugged it is amazing. I think having 30 toughness is used alot for victims and for 30 toughness you have the exact amount of damage to kill a victim with a single overhead into m1 and then rough cut will make them bleed out. And sometimes the victims are not full hp and I started to run a bit more than 30 toughness (33-35) on most of my victims which means that if I am not full hp rough cuts will make me bleed out after I get hit by him
@@Tarcany_ i have rough cut on lvl 3 im prob gonna put it back on even if it doesnt work everytime its still better then pack animal i just wanted to try it out
@@chiarenza451 How can you tell? Does it not light up everytime you hit someone? Or did you test that with someone? If that is the case I will report that to the devs and hope they fix it. But yeah even if it just works 10 % of the time it is proly still better than pack animal. If you wanna put something else I would go siphon or blood banker just so I get more blood after a kill to feed grandpa :D
@@Tarcany_ I know nicknasty was saying it on stream he felt that y they gave him serrated. But yeah I don't see it pop every time it could be a visual thing
@@chiarenza451 Thanks for letting me know. I will write that down and test it in custom games as soon as possible. I will let you know here once I discovered more about that.
Does rough cut still bugged ? Thanks
Yes, sadly. But he devs already said that they are aware of it and looking into fixing the problem. So there is a chance that it is going to be fixed after the next patch :D