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Welcome to the OurPath UA-cam Channel. We feature the stories of people in heterosexual relationships who have discovered their partners are LGBT+.
A Bisexual Husband's Disclosure and a Straight Wife's Decision to Stay with Irina Miller
Irina’s discovery of her husband’s sexuality started from accidentally finding a social media account in a locked folder on his phone. Not thinking much of it at first, she enquired him about it, and he burst into tears and said, “I think I am bisexual”. He then shared the account and the rest of his private folder - the contents of which clearly indicated he was attracted to men, as well as women.
While feeling betrayed by his withholding such an important piece of information throughout their marriage, she was also impressed by his honesty in sharing his thoughts and emotions during the early weeks and months following the disclosure. She approaches her post-disclosure marriage as a new relationship-one with someone she knows has many good qualities, but whom she is still getting to know.
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While feeling betrayed by his withholding such an important piece of information throughout their marriage, she was also impressed by his honesty in sharing his thoughts and emotions during the early weeks and months following the disclosure. She approaches her post-disclosure marriage as a new relationship-one with someone she knows has many good qualities, but whom she is still getting to know.
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Ryan King, our Favorite "Former Closeted Narcissist in Recovery," Answers Your Questions
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Ryan King returns to the podcast to answer your most common questions about closeted narcissists, their motivations and behaviors. He speaks from his own experience and his experience working with other closeted men married to women. He uses what he’s observed to bring clarity and validation to the straight wives of gay men.
The Impact of Gender Transition on Intimacy within a Marriage
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: This episode was first published in 2022. Shannon Thrace talks about how sex and intimacy with her spouse changed when her spouse transitioned genders. In this frank, vulnerable and explicit conversation, Shannon shares how gender transition impacted her sexual relationship with her partner, as well as their connection to each other’s bodies. Her memoir, 18 Mo...
The Minwalla Model of Deceptive Sexuality and Complex Trauma
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Today's episode features a presentation of the Minwalla Model of Deceptive Sexuality and Complex Trauma Treatment. In 2006, Dr. Omar Minwalla began to study the signs of Complex Trauma related stress in people whose spouses had committed infidelity. Minwalla’s powerful educational metaphor, the “Secret Sexual Basement”, has made the personal, relational, and psychological abuses that comprise d...
The Origins of the Hit Netflix Series Grace & Frankie with Marta Kauffman
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Marta Kauffman, creator of the Netflix series Grace and Frankie, joins us to talk about the inspiration behind her characters, how the idea to give her main characters gay husbands came about, and how her characters, as portrayed by Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin, survive and thrive after late life divorce.
The Anger Episode: One Man's Epic but Lovable Grudge
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (The OurVoices Podcast was originally known as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) This episode was first published in 2019. (Please remember to follow the link above to our UA-cam channel, like and subscribe to support this podcast!) In this episode from 2019, Russ Chapman discusses the dissolution of his marriage after the disc...
Telling the Kids Dad is Gay with Scary Mommy Jill Smokler
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (The OurVoices Podcast was originally known as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) In this episode from 2019, Scary Mommy founder Jill Smokler discusses coming to terms with her husband’s sexuality, making the difficult decision to divorce after 18 years of marriage and how they focused on honesty and transparency in telling thei...
Straight Spouse in the Public Eye: The Former First Lady of New Jersey, Dina Matos
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (The OurVoices Podcast was originally known as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) (This episode was first published in 2019). In August of 2004, the Governor of the State of New Jersey came out to the world in a press conference. "I am a gay American,” he said, and then resigned his office. His wife Dina was standing behind him ...
A Checklist for Newbies with Seth Blackman
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (The OurVoices Podcast was originally known as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) (This episode was first published in 2018). Today, SSN Board Member Seth Blackman goes over a Checklist for Newbies. He provides steps, tips, and advice for how to get through the initial days and months after disclosure/discovery that your spouse ...
How Nature Heals Us with Sara Schulting-Kranz
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (The OurVoices Podcast was originally known as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) (The episode was originally released in 2018). In today’s episode, Sara talks about the discovery of her husband’s 14 years of infidelity with men, her diagnosis of PTSD related to the relationship betrayal in her marriage, which echoed back to her...
The Time to Pay It Forward is Now with David Harte
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Not only was OurPath Volunteer David Harte surprised to learn his wife was a lesbian, he was surprised that her family already knew she was. “One of her friends told me [my wife] had come out in her early 20’s. That wasn’t accepted by her family at all, hence, when I met her, her family were very encouraging of us getting married and having a child. I didn’t realize they were trying to marry he...
Cheating is Cheating with the Chump Lady Tracy Schorn
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT (This episode was released in 2023) On today's Season 6 opener, Chump Lady Tracy Schorn talks about cheating, double lives and closets (of all kinds), and the toll being a "chump" can take on an unsuspecting spouse or partner. Tracy cuts through the nonsense and calls a spade a spade: cheating is the "theft of your reality" and it sets up an abusive power dynam...
Straight Spouses by the Data: What the Survey Says
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT: Straight Spouse Voices Edition (the OurVoices Podcast was formerly knows as the Straight Spouse Voices Podcast) This episode was first published in 2018. In today's episode, host Kristin Kalbli interviews Kimberly Brooks Mazella, a straight spouse and psychotherapist Kim discusses the results of her survey research on Straight Spouses and how her data, which s...
Learning To Trust Again After Betrayal With Dr. Debi Silber
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OurVoices Podcast: FROM THE VAULT (This episode was originally published in 2021). Dr. Debi Silber is the founder of the Post Betrayal Transformation Institute and the author of Trust Again: Overcoming Betrayal and Regaining Health, Confidence and Happiness. Today on the show, we talk about Post Betrayal Syndrome, the impact betrayal trauma has on the body and the psyche, and how people can hea...
A Formerly Closeted "Narcissist in Recovery" Gets Real
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Ryan King knew he was gay from the time he was six years old. Despite this, he married a woman. In this double-length episode, Ryan sheds light on the abusive, narcissistic tactics he used to keep his unsuspecting wife trapped in their affectionless marriage. He hopes that Straight Partners will recognize the signs of a closeted spouse. Under the pseudonym “Sean,” he created the thread “A Gay E...
A Bill of Rights for Spouses of Trans People
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A Bill of Rights for Spouses of Trans People
The Lie: A Memoir of Two Marriages, Catfishing and Coming Out with Author William Dameron
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The Lie: A Memoir of Two Marriages, Catfishing and Coming Out with Author William Dameron
The Other Side of the Closet with Emily Reese
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The Other Side of the Closet with Emily Reese
A Personal Conversation with Maggie Kneip, Author of Now Everyone Will Know
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A Personal Conversation with Maggie Kneip, Author of Now Everyone Will Know
A Detransitioned Man Shares His Motives For Becoming A Trans Woman
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A Detransitioned Man Shares His Motives For Becoming A Trans Woman
Navigating Conflicting Feelings When a Straight Spouse has an LGBT+ Child
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Navigating Conflicting Feelings When a Straight Spouse has an LGBT Child
One Husband's Story of Divorcing a Late-Life Lesbian
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One Husband's Story of Divorcing a Late-Life Lesbian
Coming Out as a Late Life Lesbian After Marriage to a Man
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Coming Out as a Late Life Lesbian After Marriage to a Man
The Case for Letting Go with Karen Slater
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The Case for Letting Go with Karen Slater
The Sweet Pain of Being Alive with Author Ann Anderson Evans
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The Sweet Pain of Being Alive with Author Ann Anderson Evans
Creating an Authentic Life After Mixed Orientation Marriage with Sally Srok
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Creating an Authentic Life After Mixed Orientation Marriage with Sally Srok
Behind the Scenes of Behind the Looking Glass with Filmmaker Vaishnavi Sundar
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Behind the Scenes of Behind the Looking Glass with Filmmaker Vaishnavi Sundar
Healing the Trauma and Shame of Betrayal with Michelle Mays
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Healing the Trauma and Shame of Betrayal with Michelle Mays
The Apology You Needed But Never Got with Tom Jones
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The Apology You Needed But Never Got with Tom Jones
The Six Stages of Coming Out with Dr. Ben Schilaty
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The Six Stages of Coming Out with Dr. Ben Schilaty
Wow Kristin! Thank you so much for this episode. Your research is so appreciated and is spot on! I am six years out from my day of discovery and I’ve done everything right including lots of therapy, self-help courses and books your podcast, the Our Path support group and I even volunteered as an Our Path support contact in my state. But I keep listening to you because I learn and grow from every episode. Thank you for your hard work.
The "she didn't want to see it" argument is so destructive to the spouse. As well, these guys have been manipulating and lying to their wives for decades sometimes -- actively deceiving this person day in, day out. Most importantly, he is the only one responsible for his dishonesty.
Kristin - These interviews are so informative and valuable, particularly for straight spouses. I bet it's the largest library of interviews on the topics of sex, gender, selfishness and dishonesty. One day, I hope history will honor you, too. I've listened to these via y o ur podcasts and web series, and I'm glad to see them on YT.
Hi William, I listened to the episode of your story with Dani Shapiro and it touched my heart and brought tears to my eye. That being totally honest and yourself is freeing. Even though I am not pay, I am finally who i am supposed to be. Someone that is healing from trauma and being my true authentic self and like you it's the most freeing thing in the word. Also your mom being your biggest supporter, I cried. Ty for sharing your story and touching my heart. Knowing there are people that just want to be loved and excepted for who they are, that I am not alone.
Is there a day that acknowledges straight spouses?
This information is very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for this valuable information.
Very good to hear a more positive hopeful story involving a bi partner. There are so many of us out here living in happy MORs!
Irina's perspective is wonderful to hear.
good luck to this lady. please do a follow-up episode.
I wholly agree with Ryan King; and NOT joe kort. As someone who saw Joe in couple's therapy for several years, where my husband's sexuality was never addressed. At that time, I had no evidence my husband was gay. It was years later that discovered my husband was in a gay relationship while we were in therapy together.
That was incredibly clarifying and affirming for me. What a masterful and intelligent job you did of learning that material and very concretely explaining to all of us. I will use this for my personal healing and professional growth with clients and am grateful for your work.
Thank you so much for listening! I'm glad you got so much out of it.
I was angry, hard for a solid 30 days plus. I was angry from the minute I woke up, to the minute I fell asleep. I was starting to feel it in my chest. I had to let it go because it was going to cause heart issues. I'm still angry just not that burning level of unhealthy anger.
Emily Reese TED Talk : ua-cam.com/video/PnMrY7ihQPk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
This was MY experience upon discovery. It was NO joking matter.
I was brought here by r/StraightSpouses. Thank you for this. I'm 60 days into being separated from my spouse that came out to me.
This is a very rare case where an ambitious politician used his “wife”, but there is absolutely no evidence that this is normal and quite the contrary. Almost all marriages are men who deeply regret the effects on their wives and who didn’t even understand themselves or their being gay when they married. Talk of “consent” and “withholding material information” and “fully knowing they were gay when they walked down the aisle” are inflammatory generalizations simply not based in research or fact, except for rare circumstances.
Hi David, I agree that McGreevey's behavior towards his wife was egregiously mercenary, but 'm not aware of reliable, comprehensive research (beyond, perhaps, self report surveys) that can give us an accurate picture of how common or rare it is for someone in a mixed orientation marriage to be that degree of mercenary. And a closeted spouse doesn't have to be anywhere near that level of narcissistic for harm to the straight spouse to be material. Benign intent does not mitigate harm to the spouse. Anecdotally, I've talked to gay men who who feel gutted about the impact on their wives in families. But those wives still grapple with feeling like their entire marriages were not real. Their husbands not wanting to hurt them does not mean they were not hurt. I've also talked with gay men who report that many gay men they associate with are not concerned about the impact on their wives (fantastic case in point right here: ua-cam.com/video/AV9g3WPAtOs/v-deo.html). In my 7 years of talking to hundreds of people in mixed orientation marriages, I've found it helpful to think of a few different spectrums operating simultaneously: A spectrum of awareness of one's sexual orientation, a spectrum of acceptance of one's sexual orientation, and a spectrum of integrity with regards to how others are impacted by one's choices regarding their undisclosed orientation. People can be father along on one spectrum, and less farther on another. For ex: One friend who I've corresponded with for years talked about his feelings of "predicament suicide" because he was so guilt ridden that he was going to blow up his wife's world with disclosure after he finally understood/accepted who he was. He was low awareness/high integrity. On the other hand, I listened to one gay man say that in college, when all his male friends were pairing off and getting married, he realized he'd better do the same. He looked around at the females in his peer group and picked one because "she seemed like she'd be the easiest to convince." That's a form of conscription. And he wasn't exactly a national politician. Another man of the LDS faith ended up going to Thailand to find a wife because he worried an American woman would be more likely to detect him. That is mercenary behavior. These men are high in awareness and low in integrity. We still see plenty of women for whom the discovery of a Grindr account is met with gaslighting, script flipping and psychological manipulation causing tremendous psychological distress and harm. As with most things human, it's complicated.
If one takes a historical overview of what marriage was through the ages, the truth is that marriage was an economic and social arrangement. Love had little or nothing to do with it. It is only in modern times, in the last 150+- years, that we have begun to recognize that some people are by nature LGBT. LGBT activity was previously thought to be merely sinful activity contrary to nature. When a modern person reverts to marriage as an economic or social arrangement, they have history on their side. That said, marriage partners today owe it to one another to be honest about their motives for entering into marriage.
Our Path is a great organization!
Helen, He is never ever going to be a she. He is always going to be a He. He can think whatever he wants, but that does not change facts.
Huff...... Resonates 100%....I stayed in confusion for 14 years and 3 more with legal in two GEOS India and USA - Its still going on.... I Stayed out of my body during my healing process, looking at myself as my child.
SHAME ON YOU!
So basically its just all his unfinished business and regrets. No thanks.
What's the book called please? Will it be on audible?
The Book is called Bonus Round by Sally Srok! a.co/d/deV6F3r
This is absolutely awesome!!!! Love this podcast
Glad you enjoy it!
Dear Donna, I feel your pain... gosh this isn't easy. I am also thankful for the Our Path website. This is so wonderful to think we have this platform where we can talk - share our thoughts and feelings. I have read that book "My Husband is Gay" and it has given me a lot of insight. Also, watch a lot of Debi Silber's videos; and I am now listening to Susan David, regarding emotional agility... Dr Lisa Marie Bobby's book about Exaholics, and steps to recovery; I have been divorced end of March this year. So glad you have grandchildren, which I don't have, won't ever have... Be good to yourself; take one day at a time. Warm regards, Madelene
Thank you for this testimony.