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The biggest reason was the 15.3mm actuator is too small for most ppl. If you wanted a CDP I'd say go 309mj and then just get a dx bobbin + 15.3mm actuator.

I am in the US so I used FocusAttack. If you are in EU I would try to find one second hand, or buy from IST in Korea

I mean to make a follow up/updated video but school kinda cooked me. Maybe once life stabilizes and I get into my job field I will

@@geminirx7 wish you the best of luck! this is still an awesome resource regardless

309mj. I would always go for 49s over 47c as well just because the 47c forces you onto the sanwa bat top unless you change the shaft

It definitely could still matter, these things are very person to person. JLF is more binary with a spring (you are pressing this direction/in this direction or not) K levers with a grommet are more like flexible. It's more gradual and like increases steadily rather than being on or off when you move the lever around. I hope that makes sense

Thank you! It's a little low quality but the question used to get thrown around the K lever discord a lot so I just wanted something to serve as a sufficient baseline

I don't think it's a bad lever, but I wouldn't recommend it as a first. Not entirely sure where I would put it on the list. Also the body is a bit bigger than more "standard" sized levers like the 309 levers or Alpha levers so if your case doesn't have a lot of clearance (Hori Fighting Edge, Qanba Titan, etc.) then it might not fit.

Execution will just come with practice, but you could definitely try changing levers if one would suit your preference more. The Kneeo is a bit interesting. I haven't played on one in a while but I don't really remember feeling any way about the gate. The throw of the Kneeo is longer than the 309mj. I prefer the mj just bc it's more standard and for myself it is easier to play on. The Kneeo might be for you though!

In the US, I would try FocusAttack If you are in EU or Asia, IST is probably your best bet Second hand is also a good option if you're able to find one

No problem!

Glad you found the video helpful! I am glad you're liking the NHM! It's what I currently use myself

I wouldn't recommend the V6 because it's a lot of money to spend on a lever you may not like. I am also pretty NewHelpMe pilled and really think that even if you would like the V6, the NHM is really good and the V6 is not $60+ dollars better than the NHM. I don't think the V6 is bad though, just not for everyone.

@@geminirx7 I got the V6 and I absolutely love it. It's a bit "heavy" at first though... But I got used to it and I love it

Same. I want to know how this lever is compared to others.

Haven't tried the V7. It's a lot to pay for a lever and I currently can't justify spending that kind of money at this moment. I want to try it in the future. I will say I am a big fan of the NHM, and I thought the NHM was better for me than the V6. I like the V6 and I think most would prefer the V6 over the NHM, but I don't think the V6 is $60+ better than the NHM If I get a chance to try the V7 I will do my best to make a post or reply to this comment.

I haven't tried the Shinsun lever out, but I do want to try it especially since I play a lot more 3rd Strike now. I will do my best to remember to reply once I get my hands on one. It will probably be quite a while though.

Knee lever parts or Alpha parts should work but you probalby need the alpha actuator as well

You have a few options. You could replace Myoung parts with ASI parts which are a bit more pricey. You could put a Knee v1 shaft in, but I'm not sure how pleasant it would be since the Knee V1 shaft is like 7.2mm and the Myoung shaft is 9mm. I would try a Fujin shaft (the rev 2 is 7.8 & the rev 3 is 8.4mm) just so the throw isn't dramatically bigger. You would probably need to grab an Alpha actuator as well (15.5mm) but you could also try the 15.3mm that comes with the Alpha N. Fujin 8.4 shaft with 15.5mm actuator would give you a little more throw and might be better for your preferences.

Glad you like the NHM! It's what I use myself. I have the opposite journey since I switched to mainly playing 3rd Strike a few months ago. Learning JLF after not playing on JP levers for probably over a year was a dramatic switch for me. Still working on getting more consistent

Whatever lever you like the most is the best one for you. I think the NHM is really good for everything though if you wanted a specific recommendation.

hi man . which one do you choose after all ?

Glad you liked the video!

Sorry I was MIA on this channel for a long time. I think the Crown 309 is probably the best modding base because of the variety of actuators in combination with the different switches you can use. Generally though any lever will only be compatible with others parts of the same brand/company and even if they are made by the same brand/company it doesn't mean they are compatible. Would love to hear what route you went though if you decided to pursue modding. Sorry again for the late reply

I don't have a specific ranking and everything is very personal preference. I do mostly play on the NHM now when I play on K lever, but there are a lot of good options.

@geminirx7 itd been a while, I got most of the list and more.... also switched to Japanese lever 😅

Glad you liked the video and found it helpful! I don't know if I will return to making videos, and it will be a while if I do. I appreciate the support though :)

@@geminirx7 that's fair enough. Either way it's a great video and helped me and no doubt many others :)

do you mean 309? I can confirm for sure the 309 works in the Rap 4. I have never owned a Daija though, so I cannot say.

Sorry for the late reply, but it's just preference. My understanding is Full Collar were just what got used in the old KR arcades so they've just stuck around as the design. Things are moving towards low collar just because it's easier to fit in a standard arcade stick. If you like the full collar look you can stick to it, if you don't care or prefer low collar then you're not losing anything switching to low collar.

How has the newhelpme been?

@@crispyexcal204 Its been great! Took a little bit of time to get used to the increase in tension coming from a jlf, but overall I really like the korean style. Don't feel like ill ever need to upgrade unless I wanted to try a sanjuks or something.

Sorry for the late response. Here you go: docs.google.com/document/d/1JjWw5xtPnENF05eypMSMEL0QQoGlXKeDT80bZcwbhGs/edit?usp=sharing

Have you tried the Fujin III compared to these? I have the CDP but arent very comfortable with it and was thinking of getting a Sanjuks

You can instant while running on any lever with enough practice. I do think a NHM is a great option as a general lever and nothing about it would hinder you with your movement or while running moves. With regards to grommet tension, play on the grommet that's most comfortable for you. Even on the lightest grommets, you can get 1 frame returns to neutral. You're splitting atoms at that point.

@GeminiDTX - Korean Levers thank you for the advice

@@PaperTigerLive no problem! :)

@@PaperTigerLive you're v welcome!

Good question. I am a uni student and got really busy when filming the part 2 and ended up losing motivation. I then realized that it would be more productive if I just posted my criticism in like a post in the community tab. Then I learned that I don't have that and need like a minimum of 500 subscribers to have a community tab. It's also just not the general direction I want my channel to go as well. I am thinking of redoing this video since some things have changed since this video's release & I gotten a lot of constructive criticism

That's very subjective. Your corners will be smaller so you may find it harder to use if that's what you mean by harder.

@@geminirx7 In the end I took it and tried it I must say that the difference is not so much the voltage that the 309mj has a very similar ST25 JLF for one at the first gun the 303DX CDP could find it strange or beautiful in my opinion and an excellent lever especially for who has already had to deal with the Korean levers

@@maestro-occulto8871 I am glad you're liking the CDP! I just have seen a lot of mixed reactions to it so I am a bit hesitant to recommend it, even though I don't think it's bad myself

Hi, sorry I just saw this comment. I won't lie, I like the NHM more than the V6. I had a V6 but sold it just because I wasn't really a fan. I often play on a modded NewHelpMe. I don't think the V6 is bad, it's just not for me. There are a lot of people who would tell you that they like the V6 more and the V6 is higher quality (machined & not plastic injection mold). Just depends on what your preferences are!

@@geminirx7 thank you for your comment and no worries about it! Can you elaborate a bit on the preferences for modding your NHM? I received it about 2 weeks ago and I am pretty satisfied but looking forward to more experimentations!

@@SilverStarGG If you're happy with it stock, then don't feel like you have to mod it. For me I changed the actuator size to 15.5 (Crown Kaze actuator) but they stopped producing it sadly. I also changed the tension to 25a.

@@geminirx7 cool! I actually ordered the same actuator. What about its switches? Would you mod them as well? I know it's personal preference but I am curious to hear your opinion.

@@SilverStarGG Depending on the lever/switch spacing/actuator that can effect what switches feel best. I tend to like medium to heavy switches (Omron A6s which are 250gf iirc for example or the NHM A3s which are 180gf if I am not mistaken). I know plenty of people who love Omron A5s which are definitely softer switches at 125gf. gf = grams of force needed to activate. So yeah until you try you won't know what you like, but definitely play on what feels best for you.

Hey sorry for the late response I think the NewHelpMe is really good in this aspect because it has short throw for a K lever & a larger actuator. My personal 2D set up is a NHM DX w/20a grommet & 16.3mm actuator (it only comes with 16.0 & 16.2 now). However, everyone is different. I know some ppl who can't use K levers for 2D because the throw is too long for them. In my case, I only play on Korean levers now. You won't know until you try really. hope that helps!

@@geminirx7 which actuator do you think is best for the NewHelpMe?

Whichever lever you feel most comfortable on. You can wave dash on any of these levers without an issue as long as like you've practiced & got your wavedashing down.

Sorry, just saw this comment. 1. 25a is not the lowest tension for Crown levers, 20a is 2. if you go to focus attack right now, they only sell their 309mj with the 35a grommet. There are some that come with the 25a grommet but you can tell which is which by the number that comes after ST. In the screenshot I use you can see the lever is Crown CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST35 Joystick.

@@geminirx7 I am very aware that 20a is the lowest you can go. But at stock ST-25 isn't mid. Also the ST-35 isn't the stock version of a Crown lever which is very misleading since the difference between the real stock crown lever and the ST-35 variant are worlds apart in terms of tension.

@@TheControllerChronicler ST-35 is literally the stock version Focus Attack sells you right now. When I got mine long before making this video, they sent it with a 35a. I haven't seen one sold stock with a 25a in a long time. Several Crown levers sold with 35a stock (CDP, Benylis, 309k, and some places with the 309mj). I don't quite understand how you're saying it isn't stock when that's how vendors are selling it. When I do an updated & better version of this video I will be sure to include that you could get 25a or 35a depending on place. However, in this video you can clearly see that I am referring to a 309mj from Focus Attack which specifies that it has a 35a grommet.