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you have a bad carpian tunel the op 10 no 2 is in the same level of op 10 no 1

25 no 6 is number 1, and 10 no 2 is number 2.

Wtf 25 10 was one of easiest Chopin Etudes for me, and I learned 10 3 and 10 4 in the same semester of the College. For me 10 4 was a little bit harder, but only a little bit

In my opinion, I do think people overrate Op. 10 No.1 just by looking at it. Sure it looks absolutely insane but honestly its just Chopin testing whether you can contort your hands while expanding and contracting them. One day I sat down and thought 'how hard could it be' and to my surprise it wasn't actually difficult. Discipline yourself into sitting there like a robot and going over and over each run and soon enough you'll get it right. Took me 2 months to learn. Of course the real difficulty is performing it because everyone in a 2 mile radius will hear if you mess up. But after a while of going over and over it again I almost found it difficulty to make mistakes just because the runs felt so right under my fingers. I would be quite surprised if nobody else had the same experience with Op. 10 No. 1 as me becasue don't get me wrong i am no virtuoso. But IMO there are much harder etudes in the Chopin etudes book, and personally Torrent goes above Waterfall for me, along with Sixths and Op. 10 No. 7. Not sure if anyone can relate but it would be interesting if anyone that had the same experience as me or even a different one could reply.

Trust me thirds is not the hardest!!!

Every single etude is the most difficult one.

Concierto en general Cambiaría posiciones del op 25/10 y 25/8. Sextas es más incómodo que octavas Op 25 no 3 y op 25/1 casi al mismo nivel Op 10/5 me parece mas difícil que el revolucionario

I'll rank the ones I've been playing so far (hardest to easiest): Op25no11 Op10no12 Op25no12 Op25no10 Op10no2 Op10no9 Yep, it wasn't a typo: Revolutionary comes 2nd hardest and Chromatic 2nd "easiest". I think my left hand is very weak (e.g. I still struggle a lot to play accurately the middle section of 10-9) compared to the right hand, that may be why I didn't find those 3-4-5 finger rallies in Op10no2 especially challenging. If Chromatic was about doing the same with the left hand, then it would definitely be on the top lol

It's impossible not to consider "Op. 10 n 4" the most difficult one!

You overrate No. 23 as so many do, especially putting it ahead of No. 1 and you massively overrated No. 4. If people put anything above 1, 2, 18, and 22, they are either being dishonestly contrarian or ignorant. Keep in mind if you aren't sustaining sans pedal the inner voices of 22, you are playing it wrongly, as most, even virtuosos do.

I’m I have study some etude but I I don’t think double third etude os that bad I feel like wrong note etude is prolly the hardest one I have done and ocean etude should be the first one on the list 😊

In my opinion, Op25 No 2 should be higher on the list. A lot of people forget that you should be playing two triplets, just two strong beats, not three strong beats that match the left hand notes. This make a HUGE rhythmic difference, and is very hard to execute well. I recommend this video to understand it better. ua-cam.com/video/j-EBKDX1x4o/v-deo.html

I feel like 10-4 is kind of like hitting a brick wall for people who don’t have really strong left hands. I’ve always felt like that’s no 4.

Jesus, that Black Key Etude is horrible. Too fast, sloppy, not worth a recording.

That Op. 25 No. 2 is SUPER SLOW. I can even comfortably play it faster than that.

Found op 25 no 5 easier than op 25 no 2

Op 10 no 6 is always called "easy" when it is rated level 7 in Henle plus it I deceivingly easy because of it's slow tempo but the thing is it's harder than Op 10 no 9, Op 20 no. 2.

Personally I never play 1 Etude. I play @ minimum 1 opus or the other--but typically the whole set ,as they blend into each other quite well( especially after playing them all everyday for 3 years straight!) My current repertoire is many orders of magnitude harder than these Etudes. Gaspard de la nuit,Petroushka & Islamey + Busoni's Chachonne in d minor & Schubert's Fantasy,Liszt b minor sonata & Brahms Paganini Variations both books. Difficulties are all relative depending on time,experience, situation &circumstance. Everything you don't know is " hard" yet is "easy" once you know it right?

As someone who had studied and performed all the 24 I don’t fully agree with everything and certainly not my definitive list. I believe each of the study presents its own unique challenge and the difficulties vary depending on the pianist, technical ability so the list of each pianist will be different depends on their technical preferences. For example I found op.10/8 much harder than 10/10 or 25/8 harder than octaves. But to each their own.

I can tell you have a great understanding of piano technique. Someone who doesn't know wouldn't have any clue of how hard those top 3 actually are.

Woah, agree with everything, exepct i would put op25 no 6 as number one. Also looks like i made a huge jump from op10 no5 to op10 no4. Idk what was my teacher thinking, but i am practicing it , and it is not as hard as it sounds. Good list overall!

Alla Marcia, please do me a favor, will you? Listen to Wim Winters play Chopin’s opus 10 no 2. At the slow tempo, is he right, quote: «Like the ones who have trouble seeing the extreme technical difficulties in this recording. Anyway». I can not understand the «extreme technical difficulties» in his slow tempo. Am I right or not?

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I’ll rank the etudes that I’ve played Highest to lowest Op 10 no 2 Op 25 no 5 Op 10 no 11 Op 25 no 7 Op 25 no 2 Op 25 no 1

May I ask who’s performance is the chromatic the right hand only section is beautiful

00:01 1) A flat major 02:54 2) F minor 04:48 3) F major 06:33 4) A minor 08:24 5) E minor 11:37 6) G sharp minor 13:51 7) C sharp minor 19:08 8) D flat major 20:17 9) G flat major 21:27 10) B minor 25:32 11) A minor 28:53 12) C minor

I was sceptical when I saw this titled as the "definitive list", but after watching the video, I agree with pretty much every placing. So yeah, I would also call this the definitive list.

love how the first one Im learning is already at place 8

when i got to the harder etudes i had to check my settings to see if it was on normal playback they were so much faster than ive normally heard😭😭

In my personal experience, Op. 10 no. 2 is not too bad. I found my worst difficulties in ones such as op 10 no.1 and no. 8.

I think that this is mostly very acurate but i wonder where you would put the "méthode des méthodes" etudes? For some reason everyone forgets about these 3 Chopin etudes

Whi plays it? 0:12

nice video

Very impressive, but can you do now a list of Chopin-Godowski etudes?

Oh my gosh, I actually started my Chopin Etudes with Op. 25 no. 9 😂

Anytime anyone says "definitive ranking", they lose credibility. But this is reasonable list, I've seen list where someone ranks waterfall as easiest saying "it's just arpeggios"... Different people find different things difficult. They may even understand the word "difficulty" differently. To me, difficulty means how hopeless I am when I practice it. So I'm gonna go 25/6, 10/2, and then all the rest. Yes winter wind, waterfall are hard, but I know I can get it, I just need to grind the hours, days and months. Whereas those two just make me depressed.

For me the list of the hardest 25 no 6 10 no 2 25 no 11 25 no 8 10 no 1 10 no 4

6, 3, 5, 14, 24, 9, 8, 19, 13, 10, 11, 12, 16, 4, 17, 15, 7, 20, 21, 1, 2, 18, 22, 23

The only reason Op. 10 No. 6 is "easy" is because it's played at nearly half the tempo Chopin intended.

This video helped me thank you

Great list! This is quite accurate! For me, Op. 25/11 is #1 and Op. 10/2 is #2. Thank you for the upload!

very personnal your list no for a pianist , the first study for me was " Revolutionary worked with two years of piano and j played it with four y-piano ; all studies CHOPIN are difficult but the easier is op10-12 for a young same level that mvt 3 of Clair de Lune Beethoven Sonata ; your list is more a lover-music than a pianist ex me

I would put 25/11 as n1 … but I guess it’s very subjective

All are soooo difficult for me...but so beautifull also that make the learning and practising enjoyable. Op10 no 1,2,3 and Op 25 no 1,2,5 are my daily regimen now. Nice list anyway.

what kind of hand do you have? do you have big hands? Small hands? are your fingers long? it will depend on the type of hand how difficult a Chopin etude is. speed is not everything, and here you demonstrate it very well! you did not put op 25 no 7, op 10 no 3 and op 10 no 6 in the lowest positions and followed only by necessity. good video, but for me it is not feasible

The better your technique is, the more you realize that they are all equally difficult. To play them completely relaxed and in a musical way respecting the writing. Like one that you classify as easy op 25 no 2 which is often played in eighth and quarter notes instead of the triplet which should be against the triplet of the bass with extreme lightness and in much greater speed. Op 25 no 4 should be played subtly by making the 2/2 feel and by highlighting the melodies of the bass and the upper voice. I'll stop here, as there would be too many comments to make. Also try to play op 10 no 12 in 2/2 as written, without overpowering the notes.

Biggest surprise to me was op. 25 no.12 being in the middle, i thought it was one of the hardest

I don't think it's definitive but most will agree, I think the Top 3 is interchangable but it really doesn't matter.

Good list, but it is also important to notice that some of these studies become more or less difficult as we vary our interpretative vision about them...for example Number Op 25 n 2 is not so simple if we play it really Presto ( as the marking requires) and with a real jeu perlé ( here partially absent, because the great Francois wanted to underline the melodic line, instead...). All these studies are really difficult, and It would be more correct to compare those based on similar techniques, or having similar purposes...

This is subjetive, in my opinion op 10 n 12, op 25 no 12 and op 10 no 4 are more difficult and the op 10 no 8 is more easy but its depend of the person, but the op 25 no 6 is more difficult then the op 10 no 2